Turbo Vs The Non Turbos

another great day in the backcountry! The turbo G5 was working wonders in todays snow conditions while the non turbos had a bit harder of a time. not to brand bash but it really seemed like the non turbo doo out performed the poos in these snow conditions.
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[@ethanschultz5713]

Get this guy to 100k he puts a vid out every day for us

[@snobiwonkenobi]

The added power from the turbo is quite obvious in today's video! Wow, what a difference. Thanks again for the best sledding content on KZbin!

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Right! Thanks 🙌

[@randyfrostphotog]

I was thinking they put nitrous on it when it was in the shop!!

[@dangriesemer3710]

How much more horsepower does the turbo have than a NA at that altitude?

[@ostacruiser]

@Dan Griesemer 180 vs about 140

[@lukem5141]

Just the fact that Kyle was able to keep up with a 146 in those conditions just goes to show how good of a rider he is. Awesome video🤘

[@highmarkrentals5398]

He stretched it to a 155

[@adampetten1009]

It's a 155 so same as the rest but a 146 wouldn't climb very well in the steep no matter how good the rider

[@MooseKnuckleMills]

Thanks for explaining how you were able to still use the broken clutch to get that sled out 👍

[@specforged5651]

When it came out I thought the adjustable limiter strap was a gimmick. It’s actually quite impressive and really makes a difference in that deep snow and in really steep zones. Certainly isn’t as fun on short, but when you need the traction it’s great. Great addition to the Doos. Keep up the good work!

[@cstevenett2779]

Hey Matt, thanks for another cool vid!! Your buddies on the Poo's need to learn how to make easy on hill rear skid adjustments to help when they are having climbing issues.....especially on the Khaos models. Get them to talk to Turcotte or watch this to start?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnSQcqp-e92Bd7c Way more to it than limiter strap adjustments!! Brett is very sharp with suspensions!! Hope this may help them!!

[@Sleddingislife]

great videos this year! I miss your dad on the trips as a fellow Jerry it was good to see him riding with you. i am curious how a 175 Doo turbo would fair in the trees on a day like this. i miss my 175 but love the turbo 165” i’m on.

[@MuskokaFreerider]

We all miss him! I wanted to have a 165 turbo for deep days this year but it didn’t work out that way

[@kristiantveit4449]

The Doo is back!😁

[@Kowalski301]

Lethal comeback!

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Sure is!

[@NightshiftCustom]

fuck I love the doo's

[@inthe8s]

Matt, I know your stuck on the factory clutching, but that rpm fade and mph loss you see and can hear in the videos is tunable and you will be able to ducktape the throttle ALL day long and never see high temps... been there. Wish you would just try it for a weekend.....

[@HD-uq9yg]

@@MuskokaFreerider what ended up being wrong with the ski doo?

[@dtracy03ss]

All those Polaris comments. Didn't you just pick up the Do from the Shop!!!! I know your just diggin. But sometimes Karma Follows . Seems like you All need a bit of Clutch Maintenance when you're putting a constant Whoopin on them ! Just Sayin Let's see next year a 9r T. !!! In all seriousness who has What Tracks, have you done a Equipment Comparison on the Main group 🤔?

[@williamutech4055]

Sitting on the couch with a cup of coffee watching Matt rip up the mountain. What could be better….being on the mountain too of course! One day, until then I’ll enjoy the best riding content there is on KZbin. Keep it up Matt.

[@gregchapdelaine4889]

The turbo seemed like it was flying in this video!

[@MuskokaFreerider]

It was!

[@tylergreen1460]

soooooo much better when ur on the TURBO!!! Sorry...I have a DOOOOO.

[@SuperSickSends]

Perfect vid where are you snowmobiling?

[@michaelmaldonado0814]

He's at Revelstoke, usually on Boulder mountain

[@kochykoo]

That turbo runs like a champ... You can definitely tell when you second guess your commitment on a line though lolol. You should bring all that snow to Florida so the rest of us can play to. I think are cypress tree stumps would eat them tracks up quick but it be fun chasing alligators though lolol

[@brpmd]

Matt becoming a bit of a turbo diva… lol great day guys

[@Biokemist-o3k]

Beautiful scenery, even more beautiful weather and a turbo sled....doesn't get much better than this except for enjoying it with your best friends!!

[@hailflonjohetfz3047]

That thing is a fucking monster of a machine

[@kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953]

Wow the machines are breaking at a alarming rate lately hope you got a few more in the shed 😊dam foreign metallurgy 🤭doesn’t ever match up to our American Billet ☺️

[@charlesmcdonald5465]

You just ride a ski-do better. Probably better than any other ski doo guy honestly. Glad saxtons riding with you guys!

[@208SledHead]

I think Jay Mentaberry and Blaine Mathews might have something to say about that :P

[@leftgecko7]

I ride out here in MN. "Flat Lander" Got to get out there some day.

[@eric1richards]

Thanks for another great video!

[@brianquarnstrom2000]

As Ace Ventura says….”NOBODY MESSES WITH THE DOO”😂. Awesome day and of course…top notch content and stucks!!!

[@bigchaloopa]

I'm sold. The adj. limiter is priceless. Plus the speed of G5-T... like everything is in fast forward. This is rider energy savings. I think the Poos need to lose their tunnel bags to balance them out. Thanks for sharing another awesome 👌 vid.

[@NightshiftCustom]

doo is where its at

[@208SledHead]

@@NightshiftCustom @bigchaloopa lmao

[@208SledHead]

He specifically made a comment when he was down low that it wasn't climbing and he had to ditch the fuel can. I swear you Doo guys have selective hearing.

[@eliskrutrok9070]

So fun to see the turbo again she eats for sure🤟🤟

[@REDLINE-FPV]

Love the new camera mode. Feel like I can see what you are seeing. :)

[@curtisbull1583]

Sorry if this is already been asked but is your turbo Ski-Doo a 154 or 165? Thanks

[@Ticdaniel]

Would have been better drive the 9R. Incredible climb from the turbo 💪💪

[@minter_fab_mafia]

Man, you guys have damn good snow! We can't seem to get any!!! Keep up the killer content!

[@sammygordon8278]

What clear lens goggles you wearing Matt?

[@rods907]

What’s the deal with the Polaris always breaking the clutch🤔🤷🏼‍♂️ is it from the heat?

[@208SledHead]

"Always?" That's the first Polaris clutch I've seen break. Usually it's Cat that are breaking clutches.

[@rods907]

@@208SledHead it’s the second one I’ve seen on this channel 🤔🤔

[@208SledHead]

@@rods907 I commented before the end of the video. Yea that’s two this season.

[@johnclarke8180]

Turbo for the win!

[@kwmiked]

I hate to keep saying it, but I said it 2yrs ago, Polaris took a step Backwards when they went to the Maytrx Chassis vs the Axys. My Axys is so much better trail sled vs the Maytrx, idc what anyone says!

[@208SledHead]

Nobody in here cares about trail sleds

[@kwmiked]

@@208SledHead it's all of them bone head, trail and mnt

[@etothenphysdude206]

Did those trees owe you guys,. did they insult your mothers? Cause you guys were tree pounding. That blizzard was a blast I have ridden many time in similar conditions at night. Once in a ground blizzard in the Alaska range. Rode 42 miles with katabatic winds. That is when nightfall comes and the immediately cools when the sun goes down and you get about 20 foot deep 100mph layer of air falling down the alpine. It was equal parts amazing and terrifying. When the snow comes down that heavy it is, lets say challenging to see anything. You were hauling ass in those trees to day for that one part, that sled is a beast. Seems more fun than the pair o' lips 9R.The 9r is still a really cool sled, but the 5G turbo mountain sleds seem a bit slower. I wonder if you could get them to tighten up their limiter straps?

[@kurtisprosofsky1839]

Are you having over revving issues with your 154? Have a 2023 shredder 154 and it's hitting the rev limiter bad on clicker 1.

[@mitchelleggen9763]

Love your vids! Thank you! Wondering, Are these breakdowns because you guys ride so hard or are these unusual? I go out West, but I'm 50 years old and I'm a Jerry. I have a 2017 850 summit 165, stock. Just curious if these are unusual breakdowns for you?

[@cheeseymccheese7249]

Kyle must have his sled set up for wheelies. If he tightened that front and loosened the back he would climb so much easier

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Yeah that’s the khaos really showing the difference today

[@dannyhooker8853]

Wouldn’t it be loosen the front and tighten the back to make it climb better? I’m in the process of making my 9r pro a bit more playful so been adjusting a bunch. But awesome to watch the struggle.

[@mrolsen6987]

@@dannyhooker8853 No if you loosen your limiter straps and tighten the rear shock you'r track is going to work as an chainsaw, yes the ski will be a bit in the air but you will not go anywhere in the deep snow.

[@dannyhooker8853]

@@mrolsen6987 sorry I though you were talking just the shocks.

[@Bcmtb120]

that thing just goes up what ever he wants to clime

[@rozarzzz1]

Check gopro! i think you're still in that action mode when recording

[@kenchiison4570]

Ski Doos slogan for 24. "It's lonely at the top."

[@208SledHead]

When it's not broken down or a Polaris Boost isn't on the mountain. Hell the 9R was keeping up with a turbo G5 just last video

[@kenchiison4570]

@cleanrice 9R makes alot of noise and seems like it goes nowhere pointed up. The sheer G5 power was overwhelming. Not enough spark plugs left in BC to get a boost up there.

[@master.oogwayOoO]

why dose the skidoo turbo make that snake noise?

[@MrDbeau716]

Is the plural for Polaris Polarai or Polarises? Kind of like octopus being octopai?

[@craigwoodson6514]

Great video. And keep on keeping on. Riding the Sierras, just not every day. 4 days a week, though. 😪

[@griffinbisher-mn9su]

Hi I would like to know what a limiter strap is

[@ashtonlindsay-brothers8348]

You have to ride with the cboys next year

[@ryanc8188]

The perfect camera timing on the tree hook 👌🤣

[@viktors2424]

Good content but please ditch the superwide fov. Makes me kinda nautious.

[@stschryer]

Are you running a different camera setting? Seems to have a fisheye look at times

[@relaxingnature2617]

You need to ride your old yellow summit more ..its very good practice in traction hunting and line selection

[@tboystoys5682]

Does the Polaris Turbo work as good as the Ski Doo turbo’s do?? What’s your opinion Matt.

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Ski doo turbo has more power than the boost

[@joedaddy3307]

And this is why we love these videos. Shows a guy what sled to buy and not buy. Lol turbo forsure

[@bigchaloopa]

Kudos to Dallas, he rides that n/a quite well. Definitely a Doo Day!

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Yeah he sure does!

[@habasaab]

Turbo was epic! What was wrong with it earlier?

[@jamesjanzen9806]

It was just the reeds

[@208SledHead]

@@jamesjanzen9806 "just" lol

[@exjw8623]

Do you keep track of how many belts and how many liter's of fuel for a full season?

[@FishNFreshWater]

How much do you weigh brev?

[@vetdu33]

the wide angel makes it hard to look at. i like that we can se more, but it make me feel dissy.

[@MrTmcsinc]

Was hard to see those NA’s burning 🔥 up a belt to make those pills! Wow! What a difference 🤘glad you got a sled to ride!

[@bigchaloopa]

Most everyone agrees a lighter sled is the way forward. So how about the OEMs offer smaller displacement engines (600) with turbos. Your probably right around same HP at high elevation as N/A 850. Plus use less fuel. I would like to see this

[@208SledHead]

I always thought a turbo 600 or 650 would be a blast too. Someone told me a turbo 600 feels like an 8 or 850. Maybe if they ran closer to 10-12 lbs. of boost instead of 5 or 6 it'd surpass the 850 power?? I think a guy would get tired of not having any torque though. Maybe a supercharger would be better?

[@mainelyflyfish3657]

What is that backpack?

[@trx450rlove2]

When you talk about the doo's! Muskoka always comes to mind,!

[@kenraterink]

Try another mod build for next year,? Turbo 9R....

[@bigchaloopa]

Na. Save your money and get a G5-T.

[@kenraterink]

@@bigchaloopa but he already has a G5 turbo

[@208SledHead]

@@bigchaloopa A turbo 9 would walk that G5 in reverse.

[@haydengeorge7637]

I said it once and I will say it again u make the best videos

[@mixermanbear.4002]

Sweeds have 300 words that describe all kinds of snow.

[@countrylivn]

I'm curious how you adjusted your limiter strap on the go? I'd like to be able to do that with my VR1. Do you have a video on how you did so or is that common and I'm oblivious? 😂

[@snobiwonkenobi]

That is a Ski-Doo only benefit!

[@countrylivn]

Ok awesome! Thanks Skylar.

[@jakebanack3605]

It’s an option from factory on the skidoo mountain sleds. I think can be added aftermarket as a kit. Simple rotating lever to shorten or lengthen

[@PJ-si2po]

The Doo turbo was doing really good in these snow condition It would have been nice to see a Polaris Boost today and compare

[@jungerknaut]

so sick! I need to make it up there one of these days.

[@karterdeprey3334]

I saw the vid of Ben

[@leeanderson5955]

Did you put after market reeds in or what?

[@rbuljo]

What was wrong with the doo? It broke down some days ago

[@brittneygitlewski3107]

The turbo is nice. Which sled is your favorite, doo or polaris?

[@scottcraig2569]

What is the “alpine”? Is that above the tree line?

[@colbiecolbie6979]

How much do you figure your back pack weighs!

[@scottcraig2569]

Why isn't the 9R available in boost?

[@208SledHead]

Because it'd be a 40k sled lol

[@GM-do6gn]

Dallas would be a savage ona turbski

[@liamgour2624]

Just a question, is this at the kakwa?

[@antoninbernier8302]

Thanks for showing the stucks!!

[@christopherrushing6603]

Bet your loving that turbo again

[@leeanderson5955]

Before being a Doo or Poo guy I’m guessing Matt is a KZbin guy and wants everyone to enjoy his content. That’s why Muskoka Freerider is my favorite

[@patrickdaly1392]

Hey Matt you can’t park there🤘🏻

[@DynamiteLanding]

The turbo is point and shoot today.

[@MaxRostovskii]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@509FUN]

Is it my phone freaking out or is your mic static popping? Awesome video like always!

[@MuskokaFreerider]

I think the audio was good today

[@509FUN]

@@MuskokaFreerider sometimes my headphones do that too lol so I never know what to trust😂

[@karenmajor7398]

Nice

[@mrolsen6987]

There's no substitut for turbo power 🤘

[@martyanthony4116]

Question more than a comment. I’ve been a Doo rider for the last number of years. Easy to remove sway bar link. Bought a Khaos 155 last year. Do you remove the entire sway bar??

[@jakebanack3605]

No need, people don’t remove the sway bars on new mountain sleds

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Yea I never touch mine

[@martyanthony4116]

Thanks guys. We ride in Quebec, from NS so not much steep terrain but lots of snow.

[@gavinsmith4323]

“For the na’s not me” lol

[@208SledHead]

I'll be curious to see if Polaris re-takes the crown for most power next year. It makes sense that the BRP makes more since Polaris had the most last year...if this is gonna mark the beginning of the turbo wars? Polaris could throw a huffer on the 9 and take the title, but I kinda hope they don't and leave the 9 for a dedicated tree machine. Kyle on the rodeo Khaos really had to work today!

[@specforged5651]

The 9R won’t hold together as it is in its NA form.

[@208SledHead]

@@specforged5651 How do you know this?

[@208SledHead]

@@specforged5651 Who is your dealer?

[@jrusher19]

Polaris needs to fix all the flaws and issues in the current models before releasing anything else!

[@trx450rlove2]

Is Saxton not on artic cat anymore?or on the black cats?

[@208SledHead]

Nope. He signed with Polaris at the end of the season last year.

[@nickdawson6832]

I like watching you to see what lines you are taking and would I or anyone else take the same lines. The answer is most of the time I would take the same. But watching on camera some look a lot sketchier. Great videos keep them coming.

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Remember everything on camera looks mellow

[@nickdawson6832]

@@MuskokaFreerider I am 100% sure that it is a lot steeper and deeper than it appears. You should show the height sign like you did at the beginning of season. I'm sure you will show in time or I might have missed it. Any ways keep up the great content.

[@tianjohan4633]

15.00: Why do people go NA? turbo's been proving their worth for what, 25 ish years now. And with acceptable longevity past 10 or even 15 years now. And these days turbo's are even stock with factory warranty. What do I not get?

[@Kowalski301]

For most people, a NA is plenty. Just because you have a few days or some terrain a turbo will be the king, for most people and most other days it doesn't make that much of a difference except a turbo is heavier, way more expensive and reliability will still be worse even if they are pretty good as you point out.

[@kenchiison4570]

Price

[@MuskokaFreerider]

Non turbos handle better, lighter, cheaper, burn less fuel/ oil

[@Brad22790]

Just an itty bitty tiny $6000+ difference in value for NA vs Factory Turbo.

[@dannyhooker8853]

I ride at sea level to 3,000ft. I sold my silber turbo alpha and got a 9r this year. I’m liking the instant power of the na sled and how light it is. Wouldn’t have a turbo again at this elevation.

[@pilotfo]

possibly the density altitude

[@RMKjorgey]

Where is jared?! 😅

[@shaynedonnelly4591]

Man that G5!!! BRAAPP!!!!!

[@alancall5113]

Turbo all the way😎

[@dgreenbluet]

Loving the carnage!

[@jayhaynes4668]

What’s the hp difference between 9r and turbo

[@208SledHead]

A lot.

[@matsthurfjell5481]

Thanks!

[@315senders]

Was up dude

[@johnhorsfall4032]

Solid day

[@jatimpe]

The doo stomped it out again

[@208SledHead]

Again? lol it just got out of the shop and was down for like 10 days

[@55bur]

Hi

[@chriskuzyk403]

Let's go