Muslims (and many others) Are WRONG 1+1+1=1

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[@eltonron1558]

What if the Bible says God, is a family? Lo, and behold, it does! Ephesians 3:15. If it took an immortal holy spirit to tell Mary she would be visited by the holy spirit, that's a quad, or family. If Michael fought Satan, that's a pentagon, or family. If we are to be joint heirs, brethren with the 3rd leg of a trinity, that's still family. One God, with a family, not a trinity from men in robes. One God with a family, not a reason for Islam to attack the doctrine of a church, claiming a trinity. Even the PERSON, of the holy spirit is created, not eternal. All things visible and not, were created by him Collosians 1:16. Let us, (elohim, family, heavenly host) make man in our image.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

wow.

[@tymacdonald]

That sounds like Mormon Doctrine my friend.

[@eltonron1558]

@tymacdonald I love comments with no details, just jealousy of sound doctrine. If paid enough, I would be a Mormon in public. Mt. 4:4, is the ten commandments, and I could never be paid to say otherwise. Mk. 1:14-15, is the gospel, and I could never be paid to say it's anything else, like that complicated, lengthy, confusing need for a savior gospel, that prevents the return of Christ since it's not according to Christ. The vast majority of professing Christianity has a doctrine problem in the face of scripture, forget the Joseph Smith, Joe Smith Mormons.

[@relearn1]

God is eternity. Jesus Christ is eternity. Spirit is eternity. 1 eternity + 1 eternity + 1 eternity = eternity. Learned from "Book of Mysteries" by Jonathan Chan.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

hmmm

[@charlesvaughn2901]

3 persons 1 being...that is GOD.....that is Gods' math...if you will......we as humans cannot comprehend all that is God.... including his math, science,logic, etc......for instance,our laws of physics says, what goes up, must come down.....that 'law' and others..... do NOT apply to Almighty God... Father,Son and The Holy Spirit....Amen and Hallelujah

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

😇

[@feathermerchant]

Or...it could just be that all three religions are wrong.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

It is evidentially unlikely that God is not alive.

[@feathermerchant]

@@ApologeticsAdvocates "unlikely" supports the existence of other possibilities.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

@@feathermerchant that's partly my point. I have no problem with people believing differently. I have a problem with no seriously considering all of the possibilities.

[@feathermerchant]

@@ApologeticsAdvocates The way religion is promulgated for and by most people generally discourages or actively prohibits consideration of other possibilities.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

@@feathermerchant The actions of people, the majority or otherwise, should not influence a person's quest for truth - especially on matters of such consequence. My goal is not to influence or persuade anyone to follow my convictions. I only hope to encourage people to make sure they have thought out and studied their own.

[@arthurgay5746]

Technically there is only one person and that is Jesus. God is the entire universe. He is not just one being. His son Jesus is the only person among the three

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

I disagree. God the Father AND God the Holy Ghost each have the qualities of personality.

[@arthurgay5746]

@@ApologeticsAdvocates only Jesus had material flesh. Only Jesus could bleed. That's why the blood of Christ is so sacred. He was physically connected to earth and the molecules of his flesh are connected to the molecules of everything on earth. The wine that is used in church to represent the blood of Christ is purely symbolic. The molecules of glass that are in the bottle are just as connected. And so is the earth beneath our feet. When we consume either food or drink we are consuming the physical material that Jesus Christ was once part of. That's why we say grace before we eat. The molecules that once made up Jesus' body are still among us now and when we consume anything we are taking in the body of Christ. God is above physical material. The Holy Spirit is our souls after they connect with heaven...

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

@@arthurgay5746 Wow - that's the most fantastical and, no disrespect intended, CRAZIEST thing I've ever heard. I'm going to stick with the Bible 1 John 5:7

[@eltonron1558]

​@ApologeticsAdvocates Time to Google 1John 5:7, to discover yet another corrupted scripture passage by, you guessed it. Catholicism, and trinity obsessed scribes. A shame such crap still gets in embraced versions of the English Bible. I'm pretty sure the RSV, and NIV. have the correct rendering of 1John 5:7, so adored by trinitarians the world over, in a corrupted version. As long as the trinity is a deliberate mystery, it will be bogus. God is family. Ephesians 3:15. Holy spirit created, not eternal. Collosians 1:16.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

It's easy to blame everything on the Catholics. They were not the only professings Christian believers. I don't believe them to be the faithful professing believers. The faithful transimssion of the Bible, which includes 1 John 5:7, is not in the Alexandrian/Catholic family of texts, but in the Antioch family carried forth by the Anabaptists.

[@Njennings42]

you're not right, but you're not wrong either. all things are one through God. separate but still the same.

[@ApologeticsAdvocates]

That sound political :-)

[@Njennings42]

@@ApologeticsAdvocates only if the bible is political, it practically says the same thing.

[@Njennings42]

1 Corinthians 12:12-27 as a simple and easy example