Mustang Mach 1 vs BMW M4 - Horse vs Beaver | Everyday Driver Season 9

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EverydayDriver

Күн бұрын

The latest BMW M4 has controversial styling and nearly identical performance to the new Mustang Mach-1. They don't match on price, but are the same in nearly every other metric. Which one does muscle car the best?
00:00 - 1:13 Intro
1:13 - 5:17 Design and Interior
5:17 - 10:46 Performance and Power
10:46 - 16:01 Ride and Handling
16:01 - Conclusions
This episode from Season 9 first Premiered on MotorTrend cable channel in the Summer of 2021.
#BMW #M4 #Mustang #Mach1 #comparison
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@freshtowels3917
@freshtowels3917 2 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 for me. The sound alone of the Mustang has me sold.
@mattguerra82
@mattguerra82 2 жыл бұрын
How fortunate is that when they were discussing their final thoughts we could see the front of the Mustang and the rear of the BMW. Thanks for that
@sikhovski
@sikhovski 2 жыл бұрын
Cause the front is considered ugly?
@caribbeanseas
@caribbeanseas 2 жыл бұрын
@ Matheus Guerra Yea kind of like how I can read you’re comment but dont have to look at your face at the same time
@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@WilfredZweverink
@WilfredZweverink 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a coincidence..
@mattguerra82
@mattguerra82 2 жыл бұрын
@@caribbeanseas "your"
@williamlong2682
@williamlong2682 2 жыл бұрын
“This BMW M4 feels more like a car for social media than for solitary driving” is the most 2021-auto-industry thing I’ve ever heard. Says a lot about the current state of the new car market. Ever since the new M3/M4 came out, I’ve been trying to ask myself, “what does the grille say in a broader sense about where the auto industry is these days?” I think Todd just answered that question brilliantly.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that comment resonated with you! Thanks for watching!
@khunopie9159
@khunopie9159 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Billy for the well crafted comment! Your mom is calling you for dinner!
@jlopez1017d
@jlopez1017d 2 жыл бұрын
They purposely made it ugly to get attention kind of like how clickbait works now. Producers either car or media just want attention whether it’s negative attention or good
@FutureGameLight
@FutureGameLight 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair these aerodynamics are just better than the prior generation even though they look not that good.
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 2 жыл бұрын
@@EverydayDriver Didn't have access to the handling pack Mach 1 ?(dosen't have the handling pack rear spoiler).
@goesfastandfar
@goesfastandfar 2 жыл бұрын
If they liked the Mach 1 with the auto, they'd have fallen head over heels with the Tremec in it. It totally changes the feel of the car to a better level.
@michaelschwab9563
@michaelschwab9563 2 жыл бұрын
THIS ☝🏻🙏🏻
@RajeshRamsaroop
@RajeshRamsaroop 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Plus when you actually think about buying these cars, in this configuration, the Mustang is $40k cheaper. Considering they both give you a phenomenal driving experience, I'd save the money and go for the car that's more fun to drive and look at.
@justinelliott293
@justinelliott293 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine buying a Mach 1 without the tremec, thats literally the main selling point IMO but it seems overlooked by most people
@michaelschwab9563
@michaelschwab9563 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinelliott293 Major FACTS ☝🏻
@mikehughes8023
@mikehughes8023 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinelliott293 I thought the fighter jet grey color only came in a manual 😕.
@baconmcbacon62
@baconmcbacon62 2 жыл бұрын
I love the staccato thunder of that V8. It’s like The Gods are tearing the fabric of the mountains.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 2 жыл бұрын
I'd get the Mustang just for the V8 rumble alone.
@kylefarlow
@kylefarlow 2 жыл бұрын
The inflation sticker shock gets pretty real when you realize that you could have purchased a GT350 in 2019 or 2020 for the same price they're now asking for a Mach 1 in 2021.
@hogsrmylifetbj
@hogsrmylifetbj 4 ай бұрын
Even crazier that they’re asking 100k for the Mbeaver.
@aperson5062
@aperson5062 2 жыл бұрын
"Amazed more than engaged". Great line. That is why I traded an Audi S4 for a Miata.
@MCoupeMike
@MCoupeMike 2 жыл бұрын
bingo! you get it!
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
That's why on a test ride that I realized the BMW M240i was the best drivers car imaginable imo! Not to mention extremely fast 4.2 seconds or better to 60 mph! I also did a test ride in the S3 and S4, and neither were even close to the Beemer! The Miata leaves a lot to be desired from a performance standpoint, but it's a fun little car from what I hear! My point was try a proper BMW and like myself you will be blown away with an M2 competition, M240i, and I'm sure other M cars! Don't give up on the Germans just the brand Audi lol!✌
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 2 жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 M2 is a great car. the miata or porsche boxster is too.
@whata86
@whata86 2 жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 bmw is a great riding vehicle . Arnt you worried about the reliability though?
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
@@whata86 Not to much the 2 series in general is considered reliable! The B58 engine in particular is the best inline turbo 6 BMW ever created according to the experts! It's under warranty for a long time still, so not overly concerned at this point! I have 14k on it already, and I don't baby it with no troubles so far. I pray it stays reliable because the car is incredible to drive, and extremely fast!✌
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 2 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 is so nice looking and it sounds much better IMO too!
@cherry1le
@cherry1le 2 жыл бұрын
Looks even better with the bigger rear spoiler with the gurney flap, absolute perfection
@jwanilpatel3223
@jwanilpatel3223 5 ай бұрын
Looks like shit from inside ...like a 20k car
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 16 күн бұрын
Mach 1 looks like every other mustang on the road. M4 looks new and it shits on the mustang in every single perfromace metric u can do. While having an actual luxury interior and better tech. No brainer
@traxiii
@traxiii 2 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame you couldn't get a Mach1 with the Handling Pack and 6 Speed. I hope you guys get a chance to take another look, with a Mach1 so equipped.
@Miran013
@Miran013 2 жыл бұрын
I totally don't mind the grille on the M4. The car looks aggressive and beautiful. It makes me think od the old 328. Back to the roots.
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 4 ай бұрын
Yea people are just delusional. They said it doesn't work for bmw but they are selling triple the amount of m3s and m4s as their older ones per year
@MG-Alexandrovich
@MG-Alexandrovich 2 ай бұрын
@@user-my4xu4gf1z a lot of buyers overcame initial shock, and put up with it only because engineers did such a great job on it. Also interior feels like 3 gens ahead of old one.
@lyndahammel9502
@lyndahammel9502 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video. I'm Mustang all the way. I was a teenager when the first Mustang was introduced at the World Fair. I've loved the Mustang since then. My first new car and daily driver for 12 years was a Mustang. Now my retirement car is a Ruby Red Mustang. It's just fun to drive.
@airbomb34
@airbomb34 Жыл бұрын
s550's are great daily drivers.
@jeffthornock8671
@jeffthornock8671 Жыл бұрын
And it still looks the same as it did when introduced. Lol
@kevinbreese5739
@kevinbreese5739 2 жыл бұрын
And for the record, not only does the front of the Mach 1 look better, but the rear of the Mach 1 also looks much better than the rear of the M4. The Mach 1 with the handling Package takes it to another level and looks awesome. Blows the Beamer out of the water in terms of looks, sound, reliability, and bang-for-the-buck.
@cocacola3269
@cocacola3269 2 жыл бұрын
Facts and still have money for Whipple or a Roush with warranty. 750 hp easier …
@REALJayDOTWill
@REALJayDOTWill 2 жыл бұрын
If you can get a Mach 1 Handling used, you've won.
@swansmeister
@swansmeister Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha sure buddy, not even a fan of both so neither the bmw but it's the better car in all eara's besides sound and that like I said before subjective. It drives better, has better handling, it's faster, much faster even, it looks better inside and outside and the finish can't even be compared it's that much higher up.
@kevinbreese5739
@kevinbreese5739 Жыл бұрын
​@@swansmeister The M4 does NOT handle better than a mach 1 with the handling pkg and mag ride. And if you think the M4 looks better please have your eyes checked. The nose is pretty bad and the rest of the car is fairly generic and boring. The Mach 1 on the other hand looks awesome from every angle. The BMW, as a luxury brand, of course has a little better fit& finish and initial quality but that's why you pay so much for it. And the Mach 1's fit & finish and quality is not bad by any means. And yes the beamer is a little faster in a straight line, but the aftermarket is insane for mustangs and the Mach 1 can easily be made just as fast or faster and still cost WAY less than the M4. Overall the Mach 1 is a much better bang for the buck and will also be more reliable and cost way less to maintain. Luxury euro cars are the worst cars to own in terms of reliability and maintenance, especially once the warranty expires. But to each their own I guess.
@swansmeister
@swansmeister Жыл бұрын
@@kevinbreese5739 not gonna read the whole book but I am 100 percent sure it's nurburgring time is a lot faster than that slow ass lump.
@kevinbreese5739
@kevinbreese5739 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are forgetting a Loaded GT can cost $56k. The Mach 1 actually isn't all that much more when you compare them equally in terms of options. Remember the Mach 1 premium comes loaded. And then you get all those extra's with the Mach 1, like different suspension, wheels, tires, better exhaust, nicer looking rear and front fascia, the Tremec, etc. It's too bad you didn't get the Handling Package car. That's the one to buy and it looks awesome.
@MrMashman93
@MrMashman93 9 ай бұрын
That handling package is what makes it different from the GT.
@MongoMotors352
@MongoMotors352 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the difference in price between the The beaver and the horse, you really should’ve chosen a GT 500 as a comparison car. At that point they would be the same price and yet it’s still basically below the skin a horse.
@apirmoh2202
@apirmoh2202 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome comparison - thank you for doing this! Both are icons in their own right - and I’d love to own either one 👍🏽
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
I think the BMW grill looks much better in person than it does watching it on video, but that is just me
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
I was really, really wrong about this! That said, I do respect people who don't like it...I get it😇
@Atomb
@Atomb 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that in person it's not fully hideous, but it's still not great.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@Atomb not refuting what you said but let me ask you this...what worse looking, the front of this M4 or the rear of the C8🤔
@Atomb
@Atomb 2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 God. Perfect question. I don't know! I wish the C8 rear was better, but the front of the M4 is so bad that I wonder how it ever went into production. So, I'll go M4.
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 2 жыл бұрын
if the car was black it would remind me of darth vader, but not in a good way.
@gabevsouza
@gabevsouza 2 жыл бұрын
Really great piece as always. Thoroughly enjoyed the sound mix. Panning the Mustang’s exhaust note from left to right in my headphones was perfect.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you noticed. Thanks for watching!
@dannoyes4493
@dannoyes4493 2 жыл бұрын
Well Done. I am. however, astonished to realize that to buy the M4, you'll have to pay a 67% premium over the Mach 1. Too bad Ford couldn't supply a manual version. On the flip side, you can park the M4 in a forest and it will gnaw down all the trees...
@randellgribben9772
@randellgribben9772 2 жыл бұрын
bmw edsel
@goguhu
@goguhu 2 жыл бұрын
67% premium? $50,775 vs $71,800 is 41% ... if you don't want a Infra Red front facing camera and dual perfume injections ... you can just not buy it.
@raionshishi8290
@raionshishi8290 2 жыл бұрын
@@goguhu Look at the as tested numbers buddy. 100k ...what that person was talking about VERY clearly
@goguhu
@goguhu 2 жыл бұрын
@@raionshishi8290 don’t matter, and I replied to this comment. You cannot take a car fully loaded and compare to a base model and conclude one is way more expensive .. as a conclusion. A can of Coke attached to a gold bar is 50,000 times more expensive than a can of Pepsi. Sure … it it’s irrelevant if you compare the drinks.
@TrojanRabbit521
@TrojanRabbit521 2 жыл бұрын
That BMW grill is a nightmare as soon as it’s in view causes a literal shake of my head. Trying to clear my eyes, I guess. Also BMW give us steering feel, please! So the ‘Stang has to be my choice.
@lookahere
@lookahere 2 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely hideous. I recently went to my local BMW dealer to keep my wife company while her vehicle was getting serviced. One of the salesmen attempted to get me trade my 2020 Mustang GT for one of their BMW's with that horrible front end design. I told him that not only would I never trade for any of those but they would have to literally give me one of those monstrosities for free and then would still owe me at least a couple of grand for all the pain and suffering from having to look at that design mistake every day. Sheesh.
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 2 жыл бұрын
I would take the Mach l over the BMW any day. Looks feel, and that beautiful V8 sound!
@85corolla
@85corolla 7 ай бұрын
As me being a huge oldschool bmw enthusiast, I agree with you!
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 7 ай бұрын
@@85corolla im an old school BMW enthusiast as well. E9 being my all time favorite. Im currently driving an 09 e88. Lots of mods. Love it!
@85corolla
@85corolla 7 ай бұрын
@@johnnymula2305 Oh nice!, If I could go back in time, e9 would be on my top 5 list to buy. I currently own an e30m3 and a 190e 2.3-16 euro specs. I once had a w124 500e, but regrettably sold it...ugh.
@dp2901
@dp2901 2 жыл бұрын
Ford is on a roll these days. Can’t wait to see the Bronco in real life. Hope you guys can compare it to its competitors.
@jpolimus
@jpolimus 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a white one yesterday in Leesburg Georgia. It’s beautiful. I’m currently in the market for a Jeep but I may hold another year or two. It’s that good
@randellgribben9772
@randellgribben9772 2 жыл бұрын
yes, but they did one stupid move,, they killed of the fusion..i have a 2014 fusion 2.0 ecoboost engine ( the better spanjsh engine ) se w/lux package and 235/45/19 wheels and tires..ans some othere mods..and i can roast most 3 tpes on the roads with it..hy1 between sasulito and stinson beach.. one was in front of me,, and pulled away..so he wants to play????? so i stuff mine into sports mode.. now only using paddle shift.. and after a few miles.. he gave up and pulled to a turnout.. and started chasing me.. after a few corners,, he started to fall behind....never got above 3rd gear. paddle shift...6 speed auto... my g/f told me when we stopped at stinson beach.. that see saw 2 or 3 orange warning light flikker on and off.. i asked her to show me the location of the orange lights... they were my traction/ stability control and my abs lamps.. was pushing my car pretty hard to make those show up..dont know about the bmw driver..i looked around for the car. after we parked..did not find it
@wrighterjfly
@wrighterjfly 2 жыл бұрын
Well don't get your hopes up the Ford Bronco is a mess, just look under the hood and decide for yourself. I was excited but after seeing one for myself, dissapointment is an understatement.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 2 жыл бұрын
@@wrighterjfly - disappointing in what way? The best looking car that has come out in the last 10 yrs. What’s under the hood that’s a mess?? That Ecoboost engine is great. All I’m hearing is I’m a fanboy of another manufacturer and am hating on Ford and the bronco for no reason.
@dp2901
@dp2901 2 жыл бұрын
@@wrighterjfly The actual Bronco or the Bronco Sport? I've only seen the Sport and it's just too much of a Subaru for me.
@bbb12345
@bbb12345 2 жыл бұрын
The Mustang has much more character than the M4. It's my choice here.
@jayjaylucky3278
@jayjaylucky3278 2 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 is the Best for me (good for my pocket) I love Mustang
@EdwinAaronSaenz
@EdwinAaronSaenz 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao they put the M4's back at the end next to the Mustang's front
@joelness
@joelness 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 "Was one of these manufacturers looking at the other one?" Well... have you seen the 8 Series coupe? BMW's definitely been looking at the Mustang.
@noorkashif9107
@noorkashif9107 2 жыл бұрын
yeah still a better car than anything mustang puts out tho
@fabioribeiro1009
@fabioribeiro1009 2 жыл бұрын
@@noorkashif9107 there is no bmw better than a gt350r.
@gmain1977
@gmain1977 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, would take the Mustang all day , less money better looking, more fun and better sound
@saviordream
@saviordream 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable episode, guys! Hopefully you'll get the issues with Amazon sorted out so we can buy the entire season (since I no longer have a cable or satellite subscription to watch these when they first air).
@frankburns8871
@frankburns8871 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I'm a huge muscle car fan, I'd gladly shell out the extra dough for the M4 if it wasn't absolutely, 100% guaranteed to be a maintenance nightmare in no time at all.
@gmain1977
@gmain1977 2 жыл бұрын
What!!!! No Mustang much cooler , 40 grand price difference as well and Mustang looks better and more fun
@filipprucnal
@filipprucnal 2 жыл бұрын
@@gmain1977 give me the Mustang drivetrain+chassis with the BMW interior
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 4 ай бұрын
​@@gmain1977mustang does not look better lmao. Looks like a mustang. Boring af. The m3 and m4 turn heads
@beatleboy305
@beatleboy305 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Mach 1 over the BMW. The BMW is only for status.
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 16 күн бұрын
Status? The m4 is the better perfromance car in every way imaginable when it comes to power and handling. Has actual luxury interior and better tech.
@1234zcrom
@1234zcrom 2 жыл бұрын
You guys do a great job. I especially love the boss 302 vs gt350 video
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you with us and enjoying what we do!
@ziich1
@ziich1 2 жыл бұрын
The person or people who design a good looking front bumper for the bmw shall be praised as a hero
@CALISPEC1
@CALISPEC1 2 жыл бұрын
I may be the only person to feel this way but I love the g80/g82 front end. I hated it at first much like I hated the 2018+ mustang front end but like the mustang the bmw has really grown on me, to the point that I much prefer the “beaver” front end over all other cars right now. I currently own a 2020 401a, 6 speed mustang with the performance pack and adaptive suspension and it’s great…. But I would love to have a g80 M3 manual in IOMG!
@turbopickle9720
@turbopickle9720 2 жыл бұрын
To many mustangs on the road, they don’t have that special feeling or appeal in my opinion.
@MrBolorzaya
@MrBolorzaya 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is my chill out zone.
@richardmahoney9415
@richardmahoney9415 2 жыл бұрын
🔥 🔥 🔥 no words needed love all your reviews
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 2 жыл бұрын
Todd nailed it about the BMW: it's a car made for social media presentation first. BMW marketing has been running amok for years.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that resonated with you. Thanks for watching!
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite cars, I’m going to end up with one of them next year in 2022; it’s looking like Mach 1 Premium with Handling & Elite package, no back seats (TREMEC of course)
@goesfastandfar
@goesfastandfar 2 жыл бұрын
You're gonna love it, especially with the Tremec. It's the only way to really enjoy the Mach 1. And the sound of the Coyote.......
@ZFA1738
@ZFA1738 2 жыл бұрын
I want to swap a t56 in my s550 gt. Wish Ford didn’t use cheap mt-82 for the gt.
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZFA1738 if Ford made the TR-3160 at least optional on the regular 5.0 GT I would get a regular GT
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta go with the m4, the great driving dynamics accompanied with that glorious v8 of the mustang is tempting but that interior isn’t something I can forgive. The m4 is just a more complete car, checks every box and still offers the 6mt. Never cared what others said about the beaver front, I don’t mind it. Actually kinda like it.
@avatarquinn
@avatarquinn 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendInThaMakin yeah but at $100k for the M4 you can get Audi R8 or Nissan GTR, and a bunch of others I would take over a BMW.
@craigyBow
@craigyBow 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant informative video. I think it was a great comparison. I didn't realise the similarities until I seen them both in side profile...I always enjoy the amazing camera work on these shoots, would be nice if you guys gave a shout out to your colleagues on the videos? But possibly you have done this on the podcast and I missed it? Anyway, loving your work!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this. There are only 4 of us making these episodes. Paul and Todd, joined by Chance and Edgar who are mentioned on the podcast and sometimes seen on camera. All four of us do trade off doing everything for filming and edit and are in the end credits. Thanks for watching!
@craigyBow
@craigyBow 2 жыл бұрын
@@EverydayDriver ah I see thanks for the info. You guys make a great team! 👍
@josephsartori523
@josephsartori523 2 жыл бұрын
I love the old school tech that the mustang gives. It’s give enough tech to enjoy it but still more mechanical like how sports car should be.
@mitamiyaguyrc7825
@mitamiyaguyrc7825 2 жыл бұрын
All I could think was Beaver teeth after you said that... 60k vs 100k is also a big deal for me. The Mustang needs a manual though.
@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh 2 жыл бұрын
I am BMW fan, but I would take that Mach 1. Saw it in real, it is gorgeous. And that engine sounds as beautiful. Just great car. Not to mention, BMW costs some 40K more.I could buy Tesla Model 3 for that money. As my second car. ;-)
@bmwloco
@bmwloco 2 жыл бұрын
Air cooled Porsche pilot from days past. My 912 Targa was sublime. I knew were the tires were at all times, it was light, and the wail of that flat four. And then I found motorcycles. I'm all better now.
@CALISPEC1
@CALISPEC1 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Mustang guy but that M4 looks amazing (and the M3 is even better), I personally love the new front end, it looks so aggressive.
@joshuabergeman354
@joshuabergeman354 11 ай бұрын
It’s good to see that I’m not the only one that thinks that front end on the M4 looks amazing! It reminds me of the nostrils of a thoroughbred racing horse
@frankdaelemans4488
@frankdaelemans4488 2 жыл бұрын
Both are brilliant cars, each with their plusses and minuses. The M4 has more class and a much nicer interior (the mustang's interior has a bit of a cheap look to me). I actually like that front end. It has significantly grown on me and looks very nice in reality. On the other hand, that mustang V8 sound just can't be beat. The mustang also oozes that raw muscle car spirit. It looks like it's going fast, even when parked. If I had to pick one I'd probably pick the M4. If I had enough money I think I would save myself the trouble of choosing and just buy both. Great job, Ford and BMW.
@scottanthony3426
@scottanthony3426 2 жыл бұрын
For a 40K extra over the Mustang, I'd expect the interior to be a lot nicer. Nobody seems to be talking about the cost difference here. For 100k one could have the Mach 1 and a nice medium size SUV to drive when the weather sucks or you want to haul the family to the beach for the weekend.
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t 9 ай бұрын
@@scottanthony3426base is 51 for the mach 1 and 72 for the m4 and a better interior and a faster car is worth the 20k imo
@mikeLOL45424
@mikeLOL45424 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great comparison video, great as always. It's a bit tough for me for compare them mentally as one is $40,000 more than the other (as tested). I'd get the mustang AND a veloster type n with the savings.
@warikplaya
@warikplaya 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you drive the veloster with a Mach 1 on your garage?
@bthor5397
@bthor5397 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Can’t wait to see Paul redesign the M4!
@andreasbeaufort3594
@andreasbeaufort3594 Жыл бұрын
Since I first heard you say "the beaver teeth", I simply can't look at a BMW and not die laughing! Best definition to a design feature EVER! By the way, thanks for another excellent video, guys!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. And we’re quite proud to hear “Beaver Teeth” anywhere it catches on! Thanks for watching!
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 4 ай бұрын
​@@EverydayDriverwhy are the new m3 and m4 selling triple the amount of cars then the old m3 and m4. Check bmw sales stats. Looks like ur opinion is just that. An opinion
@mikezerker6925
@mikezerker6925 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your production quality and filming locations are absolutely amazing! Can't get over the beaver, and for that price, I'll stick with the Mustang (can almost get 2 for the price of 1 [ugly] M4)
@5abivt
@5abivt 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Had a 15 GT pp1 with cloth recaros.. and for $22k usd I’d take that again over either of these cars. I traded the 15 in for a 19 Bullitt that felt heavy af and the leather recaros were horrid. After the engine knock started I traded it in after 4 weeks for a F82 M4 6 speed. Been loving that car for the last 2.5 years and due to covid prices in the used market debated on selling it and picking up a new M4 or a Mach1. Leaning towards the Mach1 with the cloth recaros but they won’t allow the fighter jet grey appearance package on the base with handling package and cloth recaros. To get the fighter jet grey you have to get premium and that only gets leather recaros which feel like a plastic chair in grade school covered with vinyl. So no go there. For the new M4.. just look at the front. So no go there. Couldn’t care less if it was a McLaren 720s under the skin, if it’s that ugly it’s a No. 😢
@MajorAddiction
@MajorAddiction 2 жыл бұрын
Yes M4 is just too ugly rn :(
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 Жыл бұрын
That knocking was very likely nothing to worry about. Too many internet rumors!
@RCXDerp
@RCXDerp 11 ай бұрын
@@stratolestele7611 Probably just the normal direct injector noise
@waldopburciagajr4399
@waldopburciagajr4399 5 күн бұрын
I have 2023 Mach1, and I love it .
@irocitZ
@irocitZ Жыл бұрын
I remember the 6th gen Camaro SS beat the M4 in every category, the road course was the only thing where it was essentially a tie. I believe it was Motor Trend Head 2 Head.
@trwsandford
@trwsandford 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit of a BMW fan boy, but yeah the Mach 1…. Best Mustang since 1969.
@trwsandford
@trwsandford 2 жыл бұрын
Outdoor Layne the Mach 1 is also a stick. They just couldn’t get one for the review, because that’s what everyone is buying.
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@layne4376 idk man voodoo engine seems almost unreliable with the timing chain issues that can grenade the entire engine.
@mebeingU2
@mebeingU2 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review of two great cars! The only thing that would have made it better is if you both ended the video crawling into those oversized doors that BMW calls a grill.
@markreynolds3850
@markreynolds3850 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video, interesting and informative video.
@larryfishkind5387
@larryfishkind5387 2 жыл бұрын
A couple times from certain angles on the front of the bmw looks very similar to the Alfa Romeo guilia. Great content ! Awesome cars !
@maxwellsmart8730
@maxwellsmart8730 2 жыл бұрын
40K difference in price? Buy the Mustang, take 20K and supercharge and get 800-1000 reliable horsepower.
@garypeatling7927
@garypeatling7927 2 жыл бұрын
And fuel saving would be nice superchargers drink it
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 2 жыл бұрын
First time I saw the M4 front end I laughed and puked a little at the same time. Not sure when but over time and the more I saw it, the cooler it looked to me. It's pretty in your face but it has some nice lines. I think on a darker colored car it would be pretty nice. Looks modern at least.
@airbomb34
@airbomb34 Жыл бұрын
The S550's are awesome. Love my ecoboost. Mustang is the best HP for the money and they make great daily drivers.
@swagpig1741
@swagpig1741 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for some to make a comparison of these 2
@bookaloo
@bookaloo 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm just waiting for the Mach 1 handling pack, track tests. Ford seems to be blocking that
@Kelvinjan
@Kelvinjan 2 жыл бұрын
I get the comparison based on size and performance, but realistically, someone shopping for a M4 is not going to be cross shopping a Mustang Mach 1.
@reshelby4178
@reshelby4178 2 жыл бұрын
Great review
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction 2 жыл бұрын
Great review - Todd captured it well with thoughts on M4. I wish you guys can do a review with F8x DCT Comp version vs the new G8x Auto - I believe the loss of the DCT is a huge negative along with the hideous styling.
@davidwolf6276
@davidwolf6276 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy as heck with this Mach 1! Yes, it does lack some of the amenities of the M4 but is 40K less. No, I wouldn't be settling, I'd be reliving my youth when I had a '72 Mach 1.
@porkchopsandwiches8363
@porkchopsandwiches8363 Жыл бұрын
Good luck getting one, the ordering process is brutal for the Mach 1
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I know exactly what Todd is saying. I have a Mustang GT with suspension from the GT350R and Steeda. I drove the Giulia Quad on mountain roads for a day. It was faster on a technical road as it stuck like glue and turn in was super quick, it felt like there was computer magic under me. However, it didn't have the mechanical analog feel of my car with its manual, torsen diff, spherical bearings and v8 crackling away. Driving my car fast is more work but a lot of involving, fun and dangerous. Lol
@ChrisPyle
@ChrisPyle 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first mustang GT at 15 years old. Watched in horror back in 94 as the Fox body and 5.0 got replaced with a sohc 4.6….Then I saw a glimmer of hope with the 03-04 “terminator” cobra, was excited in 2011 about the coyote 5.0L and am thrilled at where the Mustangs are now. Well done Ford!
@nongpraduwarrior5375
@nongpraduwarrior5375 2 жыл бұрын
Another wicked video!
@oztiks1
@oztiks1 2 жыл бұрын
Let me sum this up for you...I own both a mach 1 and a 2022 m3 comp..... night and day! Not just a 1 day test drive. Mustang sounds great, that's where it ends. No comparison in any way shape or form. If you can afford to buy an m3, don't even bother with the mach.
@shabbos-goy9407
@shabbos-goy9407 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you like a better looking car and 6 spd
@noorkashif9107
@noorkashif9107 2 жыл бұрын
interior quality of bmw >>>>
@zipzap4706
@zipzap4706 2 жыл бұрын
"Drift Coach"...lol. I'll stick with my FJ Gray Mach 1 Handling Pack 6 spd, thank you very much :)
@scottnewellguitar
@scottnewellguitar 2 жыл бұрын
Now there's a couple fun ones to drive!!
@MuahMan
@MuahMan 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they give the M4 an SUV front/grille? Rest of it looks SWEET! BMW is probably a better car, at least for the first 20,000 miles but I bet the Mustang is more fun.
@bardstables8909
@bardstables8909 2 жыл бұрын
I am a BMW fan. I'm also a Mustang fan. A year ago I opted for the mustang over the BMW based on a lot of the points you both bring up. Instead of going Shelby though I chose a GT and am modifying it to my wants and needs. Plus that way I save on insurance too. It was more important to me to take that money and spend it wisely that too pay for the Shelby name and an insurance hike. And boy is it fun to drive!
@chuckystang
@chuckystang 2 жыл бұрын
Said it before and I'll say it again, that M4 front end rocks, looks great!
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this
@padredave53
@padredave53 2 жыл бұрын
Great segment, gentlemen, I choose the Mustang too….that sound, needs a 6 speed manual and the seats from the BMW.
@iC3mdbN
@iC3mdbN 2 жыл бұрын
Look up Prior Design, they did a fairly nice looking front bumper for the M4. But i actually think the M4 look is not that bad.
@jaroslavzaruba2765
@jaroslavzaruba2765 2 жыл бұрын
no, it actually is that bad
@Veka550M
@Veka550M 2 жыл бұрын
Black M4/M3 looks good IMO, black hides the grille.
@brunov.7411
@brunov.7411 2 жыл бұрын
Stradale Design has come up with a new replacement front bumper for the M3/M4 also.
@patricsteele
@patricsteele 2 жыл бұрын
Although the GT350 engine brings it's own unique excitement;It would've been interesting to see how much specialness and fun could've been regained in other areas if the track pack spec+the manual with speed shifting were to be tested.Also, does the the earlier torque delivery of the Mach 1allow you to short shift so you have more fun opportunity to row through the gears on backroads vs GT350? Thx!
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
The GT350 engines are pure garbage, they don't hold up for what they're designed for😔
@patricsteele
@patricsteele 2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 Yes I've noticed a number of GT350 owners speaking of reliability issues with the motor over time.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@patricsteele I have 2 friends that both had those cars and both had to lemon law there vehicles because of this😔
@curaco678
@curaco678 2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 it amazing how the squeaky wheel always get the attention! Absolutely zero problems with the engine, burns zero oil and I take it as a point of pride to beat the snot out of her every single time I drive her! It is too bad that the absolute minority of owners actually "know" this guy with engine problems, lemon by backs, ect. It's like a damn Bigfoot sighting! Bottom line is that it is completely disingenuous to brand a motor as garbage when this motor/transmission combo is what makes this car so damn special. Allow the engine to get to operating temperature, until then, keep the revs low. After that, use the entire RPM range and go full send every chance you can. Don't baby it... drive the damn car and you will always get that smiles per miles we all brag about. 2 bus loads of people complaining about their blown engine experience pales in comparison to the area full of people that can't say enough on how great this car is.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@curaco678 I am basing my opinion on 2 friends who are experienced track guys know how to take care of the car know how to drive. I agree with you 100% that the engine is what makes the car great and it is far superior to the other products but unfortunately due to the size of the engine the flat plane crank has bad if plain crank has bad vibration problems.
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I agree with the judgement on the Beemer's weirdly shaped radiator grille. If I were going to spend $60K on a pony car it would be the GT 350. The automatic on the Mach 1 is sacrilegious.
@chadclark2684
@chadclark2684 2 жыл бұрын
The accessory light panels pop right out for full airflow just FYI
@dhlehrenlos
@dhlehrenlos 2 жыл бұрын
"derivative" sounds kinda unfair considering that the S58 only shares 10% of it's components with the B58. It's a race engine. It has more in common with the engine in the new M4 GT3 than the engine in a Supra haha
@n9athan
@n9athan 2 жыл бұрын
Things M fans tell themselves to feel better
@dhlehrenlos
@dhlehrenlos 2 жыл бұрын
@@n9athan I'm an Audi guy but this engine is just so fucking good. Really the only differences at the engine are using two throttle valves, a direct intercooler and dry sump lubrication to position the engine lower in the race car. The block, rods and pistons, exhaust manifold, turbos, crankcase, cylinder head with all the inner workings and so on... all stock. When they build a M4 GT3 they take the engine from the regular production lines, add a few different parts to it and voilà: your engine is ready to race.
@darkchild130
@darkchild130 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the front end on the M4. I’d rather have the Mustang though.
@2loco
@2loco 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I never thought I'd say this, but the goofy grille on the M4 is growing on me. I actually like it. Lol 😅
@hpkntnw
@hpkntnw 2 жыл бұрын
2:09 if you pop out some rivets from the radiator cover you pop it off and then pop out the left side “fog” light cover it is an air intake. It’s basically a factory ram air giving you a few extra horsepower.
@andrewmcbain4119
@andrewmcbain4119 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2016 mustang gt with the six speed, and it really is a beautiful combination. I would love to retrofit the adaptive dampers as the car already impressed me with how well it handles itself. Having driven the previous generation ford has put in the work. Drive what you want, if doesn't speak to you keep looking you might be surprised.
@bbuny10
@bbuny10 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love the Kidney XL grills. Even I know people will think they are ugly. Maybe they will age well Maybe I can look forward to a super cheap used one :)
@jonathandiperna3706
@jonathandiperna3706 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Brandon.
@senseicorey9979
@senseicorey9979 2 жыл бұрын
Let's go
@MikeKonkle
@MikeKonkle 2 жыл бұрын
Getting old....
@senseicorey9979
@senseicorey9979 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeKonkle it's going to get A LOT worse than this
@trustyshellback4724
@trustyshellback4724 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeKonkle Well you ain't heard nothing yet! Wait 'till they chant it at the Super Bowl! hahahaha
@carrier7676
@carrier7676 2 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong BMW fan... that god AWEFUL front end on the BMW M4 completely ruins my desire to EVER get one!
@bcvijasiu
@bcvijasiu 2 жыл бұрын
So you guys drove the IS500 and M4 (let's imagine it is M3) which one would you go for and why?
@Z06C5
@Z06C5 2 жыл бұрын
The build quality and engineering on the bmw is above and beyond the mustang. Any 15 year old Ford has the clear coat peeling off,crap paint jobs. I am a Ford F-150 owner
@dominiczanella8443
@dominiczanella8443 2 жыл бұрын
For 40k, I think I could get a paint job and make the car much faster than the Beamer
@draguu8987
@draguu8987 2 жыл бұрын
"I dont think there is a person or thing out there that hides its weight better then this car " . Me wearing black all the time : "Am i a joke to you ??"
@buddy8412
@buddy8412 Жыл бұрын
10seconds in, Love that these are compared. But that title though.. challenging too 😅
@limpunsing224
@limpunsing224 2 жыл бұрын
The Mach 1 is more compelling for me with its m/t & n/a V8 compared to M4 higher price, a/t & hideous grille Top-notch comparison review
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@ceooflovingthehomies9294
@ceooflovingthehomies9294 Жыл бұрын
@Karol Szymon Wiśniewski I watched this test. Something was wrong with that car running 13s. I’ve hit mid 12s on the street in my 10 speed mustang gt stock (and they can kiss 11s on a prepped surface)
@dr.jasonfielding9667
@dr.jasonfielding9667 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I am in the minority in that I like the looks of the new M4. The old grille looks too small and very dated now, especially when Audis and Mercedes have large grilles as well. I’m surprised that neither of you really harped on how bad the automatic transmission is in the BMW when compared to the previous dual clutch manual transmissions. So much less racy of an experience, I like the hard shifting of dual clutch manual transmissions.
@deni8814
@deni8814 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants a manual, I prefer that 10 speed, its faster and i dont have to shift
@andycalifornia426
@andycalifornia426 2 жыл бұрын
One small thing missing from the equation when comparing March 1 to GT350 is that GT350 is -- as hyped the engine is -- notorious for engine problems. I like the irony getting a car FOR the engine and then not being able to DRIVE it due to failure of said engine. March 1 might cost "as much", but we know the engine is dependable. The conclusion is: GT350 wasn't sorted properly, and that's why it cost what it did. If they'd sort it out, it'd have been more money. So March 1 is priced appropriately.
@scottieray
@scottieray 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely the GT350 would have been more reliable if the displacement was 4.0 instead of 5.0. Overall it was a good engine, but too many took the GT350 and tried to supercharge/turbo them.
@kevindepew8193
@kevindepew8193 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I would never own an GT350 BECAUSE of the engine and its lack of reliability and cost to maintain. The weakness of the Mustang GT is the 6-speed. The Mach 1 fixes that. I think the Mach 1 is the best Mustang. I would take it over a GT350 because of reliability and I would take it over the GT500 because of the GT500's big, gaping mouth. The GT500 isn't as ugly as the BMW M4 in the front, but Ford really ruined the look.
@twiincentral8780
@twiincentral8780 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like most of us will have 40,000 reasons to chose the Mustang. That price difference is hard to justify!
@_M3NACE_
@_M3NACE_ 2 жыл бұрын
New M2 for the win
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, M2 or the Supra. Also can't help but think $60,000 gets you a Corvette.
@valentinorossi7771
@valentinorossi7771 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, 40 grand difference in price and that makes the Mustang the winner by a county mile. Yes it is not as good as the M4 but for what Ford produces at that price you've got to declare the Ford as the winner.
@vise5224
@vise5224 2 жыл бұрын
That makes it better value. Not the winner. Use a dictionary and understand the meaning of words. Winning is when you beat it in majority of the categories. And these American cars have shitty quality n worse reliability them even the Germans. I'm not even talking about the expensive ford's but even the cheap ones. But for VALUE yes the Mustang is hard to beat. If the BMW is the latest iPhone then the mustang is a redmi phone
@pettersaethre
@pettersaethre 2 жыл бұрын
@@vise5224 bmw easily beat the mach on value with the 540i
@valentinorossi7771
@valentinorossi7771 2 жыл бұрын
@@vise5224 Ford could have - easily - built a BMW beater but chose to stick to a price point to appeal to the wider cross section of buyer.. It is a winner. It costs BMW so much to produce a car which Ford could match with a much lower price. Shit quality may be what your county produces. Most cop cars are Ford. If they were unreliable then they would not have been purchased.
@hendersonjohnson3750
@hendersonjohnson3750 9 ай бұрын
SPORT PLUS MODE give you aggressive shifting and rev matching.
@samuelfitzpatrick9739
@samuelfitzpatrick9739 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you watching. Thank you!
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