Mustang Mach-E - Nice, But Not For Me!

[@johnwheeldon7564]

Excellent video and well worth the membership. Saved me a test drive as it was on my short list but I was worried about steering and handling and you confirmed my worst fears! Will be a Polestar unless a test drive in a Model Y (when available) turns my head.

[@robsmith1a]

Let's face it Ford would have to have a Focus group

[@mikehipperson]

And an Escort back to the development centre!

[@cbromley562]

I remember seeing Bill Ford(?) talk about this at a show in the US, a year or two ago. They were all over the place trying to describe its design purpose, and like VW at the time, we’re going on about LED mood lighting and it’s effect on the psyche, and other such bollocks. Eventually, Jim Farley took over and as a ‘car guy’ started promoting the Mach-e’s Mustang heritage on shows like Jay Leon’s Garage. It’s nothing like the ‘68/‘69 390GT, but I’ve seen a few around and it certainly stands out visually. I guess if the owners are happy, it’s job done.

[@bilgyno1]

I really wish the Ioniq 5 had the keyless entry with a pin code. That is just genius for people who do outdoor/water sports. No need to take your fob where it can get squashed or wet.

[@talkandplay]

Thanks for the upload..Some very valid points raised.

[@MattJohnson75]

Good honest review especially the steering behaviour

[@devonbikefilms]

My eNiro 4+ arrived yesterday. I know it’s a bit slow charging, but I’m definitely sat here with a smug face🤣. Great review as ever. We always say thanks in Devon.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

GOOD CHOICE

[@epcalderhead]

2.4 Mi/kWh? Yesterday I took our Model 3 LR RWD (no heat pump) on a 73-mile trip that started at 24F and ended at 10F. Battery was preheated to about 55F (as shown in ScanMyTesla). Half of the trip was 35-50mph roads (which were dry and no wind), and the other half was highway driving at 65 mph. Ran the heat at 68F the whole time on auto. With winter tires we still scored 338 Wh/Mi, or 2.95 mi/kWh. My lifetime at 17k miles is 4.06 Mi/kWh, or 246 Wh/mi.

[@robcorfield8282]

Just rejected my new Mach E 4 months old with 2013 miles on the clock, been a long range one , a full tank would only give me 212 approx. Shame it was a love car!

[@talkandplay]

Was it RWD or AWD extended you had?

[@robcorfield8282]

Hi it was awd top of the range long range ,

[@jadejensen4990]

When the Mach e was first released, I very much liked the looks of it. Being from BC, Canada an ev has to meet certain price points to qualify for up to $8000 in government grants....the Mach e doesn’t as it is priced to high. So in comes the ID4 ( which I totally disagree with you, the Skoda looks terrible. The whole front end😝) the ID4 does meet the pricing requirements for grants. So an equally spec’d MACH E vs ID4 in Canada works out to be a $12,000 price difference, add in the $8,000 government rebate and now you have a $20,000 price difference. So at that price difference would you take the ID4 or the MACH E? Always enjoy your reviews👍 Jade from B.C. Canada

[@gingernutpreacher]

Do you get Skoda in Canada?

[@jadejensen4990]

@@gingernutpreacher no we don’t, we don’t have a lot to choose from. Hyundai, Kia, VW, Ford, Nissan, Tesla, Audi, Jaguar, Volvo, Chevy. BMW There is way more choice in Europe and way more lower priced vehicles to choose from.

[@PassportToPimlico]

You mentioned the MG ZS. I think that's an excellent start for anyone looking at an EV where you have to make the case for buying something else.

[@allyliddiard7320]

Should have called it a Thunderbird. Plenty of heritage, less baggage. But as a marketing trick, Mustang is a stroke of genius because we're all talking about it.

[@chrisbudge1159]

Great review - crossing that one off my list - leaves EV6 drove last week and the I4 and MY I am driving this week and next - think the I4 will be the best to drive - smoothest for long journeys - hope you’ll get that one to try at some point

[@jonathantaylor1998]

I'll caveat this up front by saying I'm absolutely not a fan of SUVs... Having said that, I've watched a fair number of reviews on all the ones you've highlighted you're looking at. So, for what it's worth: Mach-E on larger alloys has a firmer, more sporting drive than this one seemed to have (perhaps the larger battery weight on the taller sidewall tyres made it too bouncy?) EV6 seems to be an excellent compromise between sports and comfort. iD.4 is floaty and soft (but, you've got to put up with laggy and glitchy software...!) Model Y is WAY too hard and uncompromising for most UK roads. If you're looking for something 'interesting' in design, yet smoothest for long journeys, then what about the Ionic 5...? 🤔

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@jonathantaylor1998 Wait for the German Y

[@chrisbudge1159]

Thanks - not sure German Y will be different from the Chinese one - Tesla haven’t said for sure they will build cars for uk in Germany - maybe MY ride will improve if weight comes down with 4680 batteries - anyway decided wife couldn’t cope with a car with an iPad and no other instruments and so cancelled the test drive BMW I4 not ID4 was a lovely car to drive but in the flesh the hatchback is not dog friendly - too sloping and no headroom for the dog - lively car otherwise Ioniq 5 seems very unavailable at present - some people waiting nearly a year and some concerns re efficiency EV6 was good - competent nice car but didn’t really grab me as special interior wise So having driven the I4 also in the showroom was an Ix3 - like my mini an electrified ice car - very traditional, not cutting edge or ev by design but a good square boot and gets good review for how it drives and efficiency and can get money off BMW through their Military/Police scheme - not too many other car discounts about at the moment - so thinking about that

[@MrKlawUK]

worth test drive - I’ve heard a lot of complaints about the handling but also a lot of places like the car overall, so may be a personal thing

[@rbdogwood]

A useful piece. I don't go a bundle on SUVs as such so it probably wouldn't have been on my test list, but I'll be interested to see if their next iteration is a bit more European in handling.

[@BrackenDog10]

Anyone else seen Sandy Munro's reaction when the pipework under the bonnet was exposed? It was a bit like being asked to assess Frankenstein's first try at plumbing.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Don't really care about under the bonnet, I'm not the mechanic working on it. I'm the driver, I car about the bits that affect me.

[@savedfaves]

Sandy does talk shite though

[@talkandplay]

@@Robert-cu9bm Well said.Don't get why people keep bringing up this guy Sandy Munro just cause he worked for Ford which he seems to mention a lot lol

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You said it..... "Trying"

[@jackiehowells3432]

The affinity discount on mg is now only 900 pounds it has changed since end of April

[@JustfishNascar]

That steering is very odd. We have one and I've never noticed that. Granted our roads in the US are a bit different that yours, but that is not a good feel. Love the video.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

I think that there’s needed an alignment because something is wrong with their steering.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Yes, the steering is on the wrong side. They even drive on the wrong side of the road which is the right side because the left side is the right side which of course on this island is the wrong side.

[@judebrown4103]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 someone watches Björn 😁👍

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@judebrown4103 Funny guy! He was the first i watched for EV content. Model X tug of war! Epic! Because of his „test“ of the Fiat 500E i bought one for my wifey. It was everything he said and perfect! And now my whole company travels electric.

[@judebrown4103]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 that's fantastic news. I wonder if all 'our' KZbinr's realise just *how* much good they're doing in the world.

[@TassieEV]

I remember you're trip to LA for the launch. It seems Ford need to do some adjustments when it comes to the refresh. I like it but feel there are now better options and the door handles always annoyed me.

[@savedfaves]

If the car had 6 miles / kWh then people could justify the door handles, but at an average of 2.8 miles / kWh they do seem more gimmick than anything else.

[@jeffstrang1345]

I've got the GT Performance Edition of this vehicle. It's a very nice SUV. It's much faster than the last Mustang GT I owned, and it's a fantastic daily driver. I'm not sure the lower trim levels would excite me, but then again, base-spec Mustangs have often underwhelmed over the years. The doors are actually just fine (even the rear ones) in daily use, and the tablet is fine, too.

[@robcorfield8282]

The gt has only come out this week, the long range one was the top of the range, only just seen the first gt Saturday in trust Ford London. But I loved the Mach E but no range!

[@savedfaves]

It's nice to know the seats are "full lava spec" 😂

[@usfouru2]

You should have popped in for a brew I would have liked to have had a look around the car although you did mention the MG ZS EV LR which is likely to be my next EV in the coming months.

[@jur4x]

My uncle used to drive Ford Edge (on 66 plate) and for some reason making turns felt a bit jiggery regardless of who was driving.

[@goatschessefan]

With your wealth of experience in electric vehicles how about some comparison videos? I'm currently stuck between EV6, Model 3 and Polestar 2. I'm sure many people are in the same boat. Most of the comparison reviews on KZbin appear biased. Would love a Yorkshire no- nonsense comparison!

[@Joe-lb8qn]

Not Ioniq 5? Ive seen a few of those around near me (including a demo model with a massive IONIQ 5 Demo" logo on the sides today so i think they must really be pushing them) and the look is growing on me and it has better rear screen visibility than the Kia 6. One thing this mustang has got many of the others dont is rear screen wipers. What i find when looking at all these cars is, if im spending that much money i want the tesla SC network

[@Class68driver]

Of those 3 I'd go for the Polestar, EV6 is riddled with faults currently that require numerous updates also they are being recalled also for faulty heating system on all models. And well Teslas are just not very nice in my opinion. Another one to consider would be a Skoda Enyaq.

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

Model 3 for the efficiency, technology and (most importantly) the charging network. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5ezaWifdrx3adk

[@tomeli282]

Will you be reviewing the Hyundai Ioniq 5 in the near future please?

[@maxsec2]

need to wash the rear access as well.. ;-)

[@tstan6827]

I think Ford put the small tires on the Mach-E to make the ride softer. Multiple reviewers have bought or tested Performance Model Ys and complained about the stiff ride. If you buy a performance car, you should expect a stiff ride. I actually went down to the 18" wheels on my LR Model 3, down from the standard 19s. A bunch of guys upgraded to the Tesla 20 inchers. Sure they look better, but they don't feel better.

[@rkgsd]

Mainly for gas mileage. Smaller wheel with a tall tire results in higher mpg but don't look as good.

[@talkandplay]

A lot of reviews mention the poor ride comfort /suspension on the 18 inch wheels though. A few have compared it to being on a trampoline.Problem is most reviews are on a sunny flat, smooth american highway, reality kicks in hard on UK /Irish roads and again well for small windy country Uk /Irish roads i can only imagine these issues being magnified again.Still a very good first attempt by Ford and the Mach-E definitely has that WOW factor.The Cyber Orange colour is stunning.

[@stephenwabaxter]

For me it's the successor to the Ford Focus. Visually it looks quite similar and has similar accommodation. I know it's an SUV but that is just the current trend versus hatchback in the Focus Era.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

It’s way bigger than a focus! Over a foot longer. They’re nothing alike.

[@petterolsen2298]

I came across your channel a few days ago. I'm a Mustang Mach-E owner (21-mod.) and have read a lot of articles about the car. I'm puzzled by what you said about the Mach-E being a concept car not meant for production. Might I ask you what/who your source is? I know, of course, that the project started out as a compliance car, but I don't think that was what you were alluding to.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Bill Ford told me in LA during the launch.

[@Brian-om2hh]

It looks the part, but being a Ford I'd have reservations about build quality...... I'll give it 3 months and that charging flap won't stay closed......

[@wnhevenhuis7582]

Refreshing review

[@jameschapman4824]

Good video but have they got a hosepipe ban in Yorkshire? LOL

[@keithgeorge7338]

What about 3 year warranty verses 7 year warranty?

[@briankavanagh7191]

Same clothes great for continuity 👍 How does it compare (mileage) to my Kona Phil 🤔

[@nicholashills6972]

I want a Ford Flobadoba

[@FalkinerTim]

I suspect autonomous steering functions can make the steering feel funny even when they are not activated.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Autonomous just uses the electric power steering. That's pretty common on modern cars, they don't feel as nice but they're cheaper and more reliable.

[@FalkinerTim]

@@Robert-cu9bm Yes. It just feels as though there is some extra vagueness in the steering mechanism.

[@RedBatteryHead]

I found the seat upholstery not really up to spec. And on a longer journey they feel unsupportive. And a panorama roof without screen is not so handy. The lane departure want to my taste too. Besides I'm not looking it on any car. But here it is really annoying to overrule.

[@andyroid7339]

In your comparisons - no mention of the Jaaaag? Is that because of the price difference? But stylewise - EV6 wins over both in my opinion.

[@casperhansen826]

The i-Pace is considered dead.

[@andyroid7339]

@@casperhansen826 fair comment - I expect Jaguar to at least increase the battery range to something comparable to the competition

[@johndunne7376]

Excellent review as always, Will you be testing the EV6 anytime soon?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

March

[@andrewdyson4255]

You’ve hit it on the head, it’s all in the badge ! It should be a Ford something else and it would be fine. Once it’s got a horse on it, your expectations are too high

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Much like the new defender

[@djwarren5081]

Looked like he'd got those trousers out of a skip!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

ASDA George actually! And stop staring at my crotch!

[@djwarren5081]

@@ElectricVehicleMan 🤣

[@RichardJoashTan]

Glad that I will buy a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Edition anyway.

[@rachelrobinson4923]

If you were to install a home charger now, what make would you go for? It’s so confusing. Maybe you could do home charger video as new makes are coming on line all the time.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

I’d stick with Ohme.

[@rachelrobinson4923]

@@ElectricVehicleMan I know you Yorkshire folk like to keep to the point, but you do ask us to “like, subscribe,and comment “ so a little more information would be nice, like, why you would stick with that make as apposed to other makes.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@rachelrobinson4923 I get 3 figure comments a day, not going to get more than a sentence. It integrates with OctopusEnergy. Others don’t.

[@rachelrobinson4923]

@@ElectricVehicleMan well I won’t be bothering you again. Rude..

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@rachelrobinson4923 Not rude, just short response. It’s either that for many or long polite reply for a few. Which would you choose?

[@peteglass3496]

Important video for me. My OH will only drive a Ford [she comes from a Ford family], so is this enough to swing it? She's not yet convinced by the infrastructure. [meanwhile I hate the heavy re-centering on her Kuga steering compared with the light touch on my i3!] There was an early report of a Mach-E drive from the east to west coast of the USA achieving an average of 3.3mi/kWh, I doubt anyone would cruise that journey under 70mph. If reproducible that would be quite good enough. One question: did you get any hint of any improvement to the rapid charging curve once it hits 80%? Sandy Munro half got a promise on his interview with the chief engineer.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Didn’t test it on an ultra rapid. It’s not bad (apart from the ride) but there’s way better out there.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Re the charging, it's the usual.... "We don't have enough data, so turn it down and ship the car, well sort it later" that most are doing.

[@peteglass3496]

@@rogerstarkey5390 watched Kyle Connor compare the Mach E with Ionic5, he said that they improved the curve up to 90% so worth checking out the actual shape. See you around a lot, I don't comment much. :)

[@onlineo2263]

How many Harry's does the boot hold?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

That’s a very delicate question!

[@neilm9400]

I have to be honest, jiggy handling is a pain in the arse. What was the cabin noise like, in comparison to the Tesla?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

A little more probably. Not really noticeable higher but not quieter either.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Re the effect of the handling..... Depends what you're sitting on? 😉

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"Same Hoodie" = "Brand image"

[@GHOOGLEMALE]

"you can't tell really cos its black" - Really! C'mon, they shipped you out, got you p*ssed, lent you a car to rag about - you could have thrown a sponge at it. Call it "made it presentable". Great vid!

[@jonboyjon1976]

I thought it was normal to wear similar clothes in most videos as it makes continuity much easier if you lose some film. Not sure why people complain.

[@rossdavidson5980]

I like a big rear entry.... When you put your finger in it gets dirty... Lmao!

[@kinross24]

Frunk? You didn’t show it or mention it. They told Sandy Munro recently that it’s getting a re-design and taking out the devider

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello mate 👍

[@antoniopalmero4063]

Typed in EVM and got Ethereum Virtual Machine .

[@MrKlawUK]

Ford E-max. Big bugger like the S-max but E for electricity.

[@bevis9877]

Strictly speaking you should be quoting efficiency in W/mile, not mile/W. There's a reason all the manufacturers use W/mile or equivalent.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

I think you’ll find the most common by far is miles per kWh. Almost all do this!

[@bevis9877]

I know. It saddens the physicist in me.

[@andymccabe6712]

@@bevis9877 it's the most relatable to mpg though - so the logical choice...?! W/mile is meaningless to normal people - isn't it..?

[@bevis9877]

@@andymccabe6712 well technically mpg is also wrong (hence Europe use litres per 100km). Mpg and m/W make comparing changes in efficiency misleading, but really for everyday use it doesn't really matter.

[@rp9674]

A production SUV that's not a Mustang created by a team of Mustang enthusiasts, wasn't supposed to go into production? A tall SUV with styling to make it look not so tall. Are the 18-in wheels actually 16 in?

[@quackcement]

If the ford was called anything else but a Mustang it would be a great car. I can't take it seriously with that badge

[@andymccabe6712]

This is ridiculous - it does what it does regardless of a little plastic badge stuck on the front......

[@quackcement]

@@andymccabe6712 it's great you can look beyond a name and a badge. I'm one of those people who views fake rolex's as fake rolex's regardless if the build quilatity is actually good. A name hold's alot of weight to me.

[@DAdams420]

1:01 "Focus Groups" - Pardon the pun

[@rogerstarkey5390]

It's a Ford thing (😉)

[@wobby1516]

You’ve really let yourself down! It should have been monopoly. 🤪

[@casperhansen826]

9:29 Drip down menu/screen

[@TheWinstn60]

Can’t see Steve McQueen driving it

[@RupertBear412]

you always get dirty fingers when you go rear entry!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Only on fossils...

[@briankavanagh7191]

nudge, nudge, wink, wink. 🤣

[@wn129747]

This is a family show 😂👍😊

[@staudtj1]

What you're basically saying is it drives like a family auto and not a Mustang ...

[@danielstefanovic2604]

Its a okey car but the competition is better. This doesnt even have the option for heatpump nor roof rack. model y or ioniq 5 is the best family ev for me in todays market.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

1) In their defence, I'm pretty sure they're in the middle of a "redesign" following the (hilarious) Munro critique. 2) Don't shout too loudly about the Hyundai. Pack heating, related inconsistent charge, a d now "invertor issues" causing cabin heat problems...... Needs work. Oh, and software locking the drive modes.

[@lynnfisher4396]

Even as “a family car”, I would still want it to steer and brake properly for the money spent?

[@ghost70]

Saw my first one the other dy ans was not impressed. Pastal pale blue coulour looked cheap, tacky and plasticy. did not justify the price tag in any way shape or form.

[@williamarmstrong7199]

Well that driving feel is typical of cars designed for American roads. Straight boring smooth. Not wet, narrow, bumpy, intresting and cold roads. Economy is just terrible and the reason it has no Ford Badge anywhere is because they want to keep making fossil cars for ever.

[@douglasgreaves188]

Saw some at Ford dealer, compared to the ice model they are plain ugly. Putting the Mustang logo on something so dull looking is a huge mistake.

[@Aretec]

you could have washed it

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

That was 45miles into day one. I ain’t washing it every day. Call it a real world test!

[@letsgoelectriclge1320]

You could have cleaned the car mate. Really not great seeing a dirty car.

[@egold33311]

Nobody will understand how to open the doors first time and that middle screen looks like a cheapo tablet

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Nobody knows how to open a Model 3 and Y. Thats why they sold over 900K of those rust buckets and nobody can drive them because they can not open the doors. What a bummer!

[@egold33311]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 er hello you get triggered about a Tesla handle, this is a comment on a Ford video not relevant to a Tesla door handle, which is a handle and not exactly rocket science to work out a Tesla door handle

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 You didn't get the latest FUD manual of Christmas then?

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@rogerstarkey5390 no and you don’t understand sarcasm 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@R1chardH]

That's screen is horrible, looks like someone got lazy and just got a cheap tablet and stuck it to the air vents

[@andymccabe6712]

Soo...just like the screen in a Tezzler, then - the one everyone wet their pants over for its revolutionary design.......!

[@andymccabe6712]

Er, was that comment provocative enough.....?!

[@R1chardH]

@@andymccabe6712 yea dunno what's worse that or the non existent faceless front.

[@sahhull]

Its like all EV's come out of the same jelly mould and they just glue the relavent badges on... Oh this one a Ford, this ones a .... insert another boring car brand

[@bernardhilton3527]

You could have washed it. !!!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

A press car! Never!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@ElectricVehicleMan 👍😂🤣 Thats the right spirit!

[@rogerstarkey5390]

He'd be down about 200 comments. This is great for "the algorithm"!

[@justinholding02]

Sorry but it's just another boring SUV...no thanks..