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IN THIS VIDEO I EXPLAIN THE HISTORY OF THE ROLAND MV-8800.
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@reginaldsimmons4600
@reginaldsimmons4600 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Roland would update the loading and saving features for today’s musicians and make a new version of the MV 8800. We’re waiting!!!!!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@jaxager
@jaxager 2 жыл бұрын
That would definitely be sweet. Expensive, but sweet, nonetheless.
@TomZentra
@TomZentra 3 жыл бұрын
What really killed the MV-8800 was the recession. The timing of the release was very unfortunate. As world economies fell into a deep recession, the fate of the MV-8800 was sealed. This also influenced Roland to stop supporting it because sales were poor. It was such a shame because this instrument was terrific.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
You might be right about that.
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense and nobody ever spoke on it from that aspect
@MeneTekelUpharsin
@MeneTekelUpharsin Жыл бұрын
You're right. I didn't think about that.
@Lync1111
@Lync1111 Жыл бұрын
So in your opinion would it even make sense to find one. I wonder if one of us did and it broke somehow would Roland support the issues being it is no longer in production?
@TomZentra
@TomZentra Жыл бұрын
@@Lync1111 They are available on eBay, but this is old, slow technology. As far as I know, Roland does not support it anymore. Like the old MPC's, buy it only because you want what it does, not because you think it is better than something modern.
@ETwOneE21
@ETwOneE21 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 88. I will take it to the grave. The power this has is still ahead of its time. The built in plugins blew my mind when I realized what they were. Time stretch on the fly. Quantize in real time and every track can have their own quantize set up(sick). 512mb(expanded) of sample time still till this day is ridiculous. Built in pre for turn table sampling. I’m missing so much we could talk for days about the MV.
@albertkristmas59
@albertkristmas59 3 жыл бұрын
Same here its was and still is unique
@mikescott5768
@mikescott5768 3 жыл бұрын
I bought mine brand new. I still have it and will never part with it. Love it. It was a misunderstood piece of beat making history.
@ETwOneE21
@ETwOneE21 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikescott5768 so misunderstood.. now ‘21 ppl are seeing the real power it has, proving the point of “ahead of its time”
@obscurestreetz
@obscurestreetz 2 жыл бұрын
It's a killer a hitman
@DJDionP
@DJDionP 3 жыл бұрын
When this dropped I worked at guitar center in Manhattan, people slept on it so bad! I knew it was a beast. I should've bought one.
@ericdunn7521
@ericdunn7521 3 жыл бұрын
No Doubt... They were scared of that price for something so new that wasn't an MPC. lol
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a legendary piece now.
@TomZentra
@TomZentra 3 жыл бұрын
The MV-8800 was fantastic, but with the small display you really had to use an external monitor. Unfortunately, the video card supported only VGA. There were many MV-8800's for sale new on eBay for years after Roland discontinued the item, and the prices were quite good. I doubt that Roland will ever make another machine like this one. The MV-1 is supposedly the successor. However, it does not have the large amount of controls like the MV-8800.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomZentra Yeah..The MV-1 lacks alot of the total production feature the MV8800 had.
@I_like_turtles_67
@I_like_turtles_67 2 жыл бұрын
I tired to demo one at guitar center. I like my akai mpcs more.
@lbrown7164
@lbrown7164 3 жыл бұрын
I had this thing. I just sold it in 2019 b/c the HDD kept failing. It was big, it only had ½ GB of ram but I was a BEAST. The VGA out put this in a class of its own. The biggest thing was that it never crashed & got you away from your laptop so u never wasted time browsing utube or downloading porn
@MrPrincepop
@MrPrincepop 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my MV-8800. No doubt this machine is a deep dive but you can get so much out of it. So thankful for the peeps holding it down at MV-Nation, they were a lot help with the MV.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ok cool.
@Netm8kr
@Netm8kr 3 жыл бұрын
Fam, My 8k has been a mainstay in the lab for almost 20 years. Indeed it was far ahead of it’s time. I sat on it for a full year before forcing myself to learn, and use it. Afterwards, I’ve always swore by it. It’s MIDI capabilities have prolonged it usage in my lab. Being heavy into sound modules, the MV easily commands them with intricate controls. As a sampler, it rivals almost all of them. These days, it’s still my favorite, yet going through a sibling rivalry with the newest arrival (s2400). The MV deserves it place in history, and truly is shameful that Roland gave up on it. Us faithfuls still love them, and continue to share information as a community. 👍🏾✌🏾
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man..I feel u.
@yvesdropBeats
@yvesdropBeats 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased one (MV8000)last year in April when everything shut down due to Covid. I got a good price on it. Back in the early 2000s the MV8000 peaked my interest but man it so darn expensive it wasn’t obtainable by a bedroom producer like myself. I’m really pleased with this equipment, the work flow is smooth and after mastering the sounds come out really clean. The DAW portion of it reminds me of Cakewalk from back in the day which I’m completely fine with. All in one machine that saves me space in my home.
@apoclypse
@apoclypse 3 жыл бұрын
The MV880 was an amazing, way ahead of its time machine. The problem is that it came from Roland and they don't really have a history of sticking with things. There are so many Roland products that could have been really amazing if they just put more resources and time into it.
@wierd.ole.monkey
@wierd.ole.monkey 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the MV!!! I took apart harness on my MV8000 and wired up a 128GiG Compact Flash Drive to replace the 3.5" floppy that the 8000 had, and it isn't slow anymore!!! Plenty of room! Also made a new adapter board to hook up VGA and Mouse(since ROLAND does not make those any more!). Customized case with super bright LEDs backing screen and extended wood side panels that let my MV hold a 1 octave MiDi controller underneath that pulls out like a drawer!!!Next up is finding a laptop screen I can attach and plug to VGA port. I've been trying to get my friends to buy them as I had to print 12 of the circuit boards for VGA...
@nmagain24
@nmagain24 3 жыл бұрын
You should sell some of this stuff your talking about.
@wierd.ole.monkey
@wierd.ole.monkey 3 жыл бұрын
@@nmagain24 If there was any interest I would. I believe the MV-8800 already had the VGA port on the back of it, so my little circuit board is only for the MV-8000's that weren't converted. ROLAND offered the board I speak of for $189.00. I made it for like$12 and a couple hours of work!
@hankmcintyre9709
@hankmcintyre9709 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please send me some pictures and info about your setup and products???
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@wierd.ole.monkey there has been a resurgence of the MV units, I recently just bought one, leave your info when u see this
@UrbanJournal
@UrbanJournal 13 күн бұрын
That was one benefit of the 8000 over the 8800. You could replace the floppy drive and keep your disc drive. The 8800 only had the disc drive so when upgrading to the flash drive you lose your disc drive. That flash drive definitely speeds the loading times up. It’s like a different machine. I need to upgrade mine. I’d like the output expander too if I could ever find it. The original not the one from Taiwan.
@JRosevelt
@JRosevelt Жыл бұрын
I don't have the 8800 but I do have the MV 8000! One of my boys let me get it for a while and I'm loving it. It can do just about any and everything you would need. Besides technical malfunctioning, I think most people who see fault in the machine's functionality just maybe aren't aware of all it's features and how to navigate them, because there is really NOTHING it cannot do! Roland really should have continued to manufacture this series! Roland, how about a MV 9000 in the new year!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions Жыл бұрын
I feel you.
@maticlee8535
@maticlee8535 3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE STUDIO!!!!!! THIS IS THE MASTERING SUITE
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@PlexxBeatz
@PlexxBeatz 3 жыл бұрын
I neva knew that
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@DanFreeman723
@DanFreeman723 2 жыл бұрын
If I were to ever leave Reason I would get one of these & use it forever. It's the best digital "all in one" digital studio ever made. It's like a portable Fairlight.
@dco1019
@dco1019 3 жыл бұрын
since I got the MV as a first machine.. I actually couldn't wrap my head around why people couldnt wrap their head around it.. cause it does the simple things really effortless. even for a new user like me. For me simple would be, put in some samples, pitch / manipulate samples, do some drums and bass and some other instrumentation. Its build for that...It not like its really mysterious.
@LdotSdot210
@LdotSdot210 3 жыл бұрын
RZA even almost returned his but they did a firmware update on it and he was able to wrap his head around it.
@warnutztheloser
@warnutztheloser Жыл бұрын
I remember he fought w/ guitar center
@legitimatefrenzy
@legitimatefrenzy 3 жыл бұрын
I just got one of these, it was a pretty good investment for sure I'm grateful to have it in the mix. Effects are killer
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@ChazSeamus28
@ChazSeamus28 3 жыл бұрын
How much is this thing now?
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 3 жыл бұрын
How the time stretch? Does it have the capability of the VP?
@legitimatefrenzy
@legitimatefrenzy 3 жыл бұрын
It's about as good as the mc909 with the realtime time stretch. It's pretty awesome but finding your own sounds and kits is a bit hard. Worthwhile device though
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@legitimatefrenzy that VP 9000 wasn't no joke, I'm rocking the MPC One now, I'm very pleased wit it
@KeysBeMe
@KeysBeMe 3 жыл бұрын
Former MVNation moderator here and I can attest to all homie is saying regarding this machine (which I still have fully loaded w/output expander and vga card) which was and still is to this day, a beast. Highly misunderstood machine cause people's mind sets were primarily locked into the MPC way of thinking. My only gripe to this day is that Roland engineers didn't have the foresight to include a waveform cue marker or 'scrolling cursor' for a more visual editing experience (not a problem if you had good ears and could read the waveform). Great machine though, just ahead of it's time. Hope that Roland builds off the current MV-1 and goes big with an "MV8" but learning what to and what not to do with this machine this time.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Like the idea of the MV8..I know Roland can update the MV1..cause they did it for the 707..If they make the unit more intuitive that would be dope!
@illmagnetic
@illmagnetic 3 жыл бұрын
MVNation was the truth!!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@illmagnetic True.
@TheDaizM
@TheDaizM 3 жыл бұрын
Used to live on mvnation daily … Coleman, 14k, mic Gees , aceha, etc…shoot , the berndigital mv videos introduced me to KZbin back then!! I recall he had one w Skibeatz doing work w the mv… Those were the days
@BladeTheMotovlogger
@BladeTheMotovlogger Жыл бұрын
Mike Acosta had a say in why the MV was killed off! He pretty much said it himself in a recent video that Roland came to him just a few years back and wanted to put out another MV! They said they were going to put a different sequencer in it and he said no! He said they came to him a couple of times and he refused to have anything to do with it if it didn't have the same sequencer. I almost couldn't believe that he would be that selfish.
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
“It had Aftertouch, it had Aftertouch” that one part right there🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Lol..No doubt!
@Ismail-ie5gi
@Ismail-ie5gi 3 жыл бұрын
Still have mine 😎 the learning curve was a bit steep but once you got into it you really saw how advanced it was. Truly an all in one unit. The MFX and synth section is craaaaazy allowing you to really sound design. I still use it to process external synths and samples.
@MrBangen2012
@MrBangen2012 Жыл бұрын
Man if Roland came out with something like a MV9000, it would probably go crazy. that price tag would be crazy though.
@othellothemoorotmcommunica5799
@othellothemoorotmcommunica5799 3 жыл бұрын
I continue to fall in and out of Love with the MV8800. Every couple of years or so I have to say “ it’s not you, it’s me” 😑😁
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@ericdunn7521
@ericdunn7521 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAH, I know where an 8000 is for $300 I think I may just take it off they hands?
@phatplates
@phatplates 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericdunn7521 I hope you jumped on that
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@phatplates on eeerrthang
@MeneTekelUpharsin
@MeneTekelUpharsin Жыл бұрын
What's makes you fall out of love?
@natethacomposer
@natethacomposer 3 жыл бұрын
This is where it makes sense to hire particular individuals that are boom bap enthusiasts/producers in charge or leading for certain products because it influences a particular genre which will fight to update existing products for specific genres of music. Good video!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Your right..Thanks fam.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 3 жыл бұрын
For example, what akai has done with the mpc one. Although im sick and tired of the "lofi" bargin bin beat makers, akai sure did a good job selling this to them
@ericdunn7521
@ericdunn7521 3 жыл бұрын
Right, You said that Nate! Too many products out there just falling to the way side that are really excellent tools.
@mr.beatspt.2969
@mr.beatspt.2969 3 жыл бұрын
I bought mine back in 2011 $1000 used. She was a beast! Definitely was ahead of its time. That machine was considered a “home wrecker” cuz a lot of dudes including myself were spending more time on it rather than with their families lol.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao.. u funny.
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@MeneTekelUpharsin
@MeneTekelUpharsin Жыл бұрын
I better not get one 😆
@AT-eh2eo
@AT-eh2eo 3 жыл бұрын
Man it’s another beast when you master resampling!! The step sequencer was so so so fast
@marcmartin224
@marcmartin224 3 жыл бұрын
FACTS 💯. I had the MV 8000 and purchased the vga upgrade to allow a computer monitor for editing, that wasn’t included, later it was added to the MV8800 standard along with a color display. I then sold it and upgraded to the MV8800. No Roland support so I Sold it. I have moved onto the Akai MPCX. No regrets and Not looking back, Roland left us hanging.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 2 жыл бұрын
The X smacks this up right? Would you buy one for $350?
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the public left Roland hanging..People have to actually buy the gear and support it,for a company to follow up with it..When I got mine,i got it mint for less than 1/4 of it's original price..I am also checking out the MPC X and more..I love samplers because they are probably the more versatile components out there..
@michaelperez5273
@michaelperez5273 3 жыл бұрын
I still got mine.. fl studio and computer daws began oversaturating the market.. Even cds fell off at the same time as the mv8800 and mp3s took over. Technology killed the Roland mv8800💯
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u..I think Roland still should have kept at it though.
@michaelperez5273
@michaelperez5273 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions absolutely💯
@350110thave
@350110thave Жыл бұрын
I love the machine , I remember my older brother buying the mv8000 Back in 2006, he could not comprehend the machine and understand the DAW workflow at all, I watched the DVD tutorial and learned how to import samples, chop them up , load built in instruments, make loops , then arrange the loops to make a song in on the track. then you master the track and finally burn to CD. This was my first introduction to a DAW /sampling/drum machine/ mastering/ looping/Mixers ect and it was super hard to figure out. I still use this machine to this day and record my band by sampling live drums and guitars into audio phrases and join them in the DAW. For a bypass of the ram and recording a whole performance I use the MIXDOWN mode and just record. super easy and an amazing machine. Using a foot switch on it as well to help bands start their recordings , Machine was Truly ahead of its time .
@JustPete781
@JustPete781 11 ай бұрын
Damn….I never thought to record in using mixdown mode. I record beats from other samplers like the SP303 or 404 by sampling in. Mixdown mode is genius
@ChazSeamus28
@ChazSeamus28 3 жыл бұрын
What a beast, way before it's time
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man.
@ribalrayess7245
@ribalrayess7245 3 жыл бұрын
This is a dope machine! Thanks for covering it and the good vibes - ; D
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fam.
@MrBigDynasty
@MrBigDynasty 2 жыл бұрын
I always knew this was the real MPC KILLER. Glad I bought 2
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine... a Roland MV9900!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
That would be dope..Folks thought the MV1 would be that.
@BoomDocs14K
@BoomDocs14K 3 жыл бұрын
Nice walk down memory lane in terms of great sequencer-sampler midi production gear. I'm still a proud owner of the first release of the Roland sequencer; the MV-8000. I agree that these units were underrated and unappreciated, but most of the misunderstanding was due to exactly what you mentioned in the video. People approached it with an MPC mindset and couldn't wrap their heads around the MV's workflow. Producers always go back to vintage gear for a certain character that the gear provides like the grit of the old SP-1200. Although I have moved on with other production gear, I often gravitate to the now legacy MV8 for nice loose and punchy grooves. If you can get past slower loading and some of the modern tools that can speed-up your workflow, then the MV will get you where you need to go. I can't think of too many things I can do on an MPC-X that I can't do on the MV-8000, it may take longer, but can be done! Nice video, Bro! Good job and thanks for making this....
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fam..your right other than loading and saving time it does keep up with todays products.
@fatcathayze3662
@fatcathayze3662 3 жыл бұрын
Such a dope machine. Once you got passed the learning curve, the possibilities were endless. I wish I’ve never sold mine but will definitely cop anther one some point soon. For sure
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I feel u.
@lushfauna
@lushfauna 3 жыл бұрын
I used an entire weekend once and learned it quick- best roland machine ever imo
@NNITRED
@NNITRED 3 жыл бұрын
The MV took up a lot of real estate but so did the MPC4000 it was created to compete with. For the 4000 or MV....that mass commanded a certain respect.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man.
@obscurestreetz
@obscurestreetz 2 жыл бұрын
I bought it in 2007 when it came out and till this day I'm using it as my main gear. It has everything and you can set it to do exactly what you want it to do for you. Best chopping samples gear. sometimes I sample through other sampler to get specific sound and than sample that in MV for chopping manipulating samples. Bananas. And it's still so cheap according what this piece doing. Never sell mine it's a gold with original mv-op1 you can't complain. Go grab it if you have option! Great videos Man!!!!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man..Its a real sought out piece of gear. Alot of collectors still want one till this day.
@scientificallah753
@scientificallah753 2 жыл бұрын
Best drum machine sampler I ever had still rocking it!!!
@sashas3362
@sashas3362 3 жыл бұрын
The MV-8800 allowed for plug-ins? Are you sure you aren't thinking of the VS series? Some of the VS multitrack recorders did have a few plug-ins but I never heard of the MV's having any plug-ins. The MV's did allow for virtual analog synthesis using the FX and also came with a lot of impressive FX (such as mic modeling if I remember correctly) but I don't know about any plug-ins provided by roland let alone 3rd parties.
@enykkyne6104
@enykkyne6104 3 жыл бұрын
Bought my MV8K about 5 mths ago for $200. Guitar Ctr offered the guy who was selling it only $180 and nothing more. I stepped in in said I'll give you $20 more. Still had the plastic on the screen and buttons, 2 expansion DVD's and 2 Instructional DVD's. Like NEW - LOADED! Wow, what luck!! 😁
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thats an incredible deal..Sometimes guitar center dont know what they have thats how i got my 5000.
@wmextra
@wmextra 3 жыл бұрын
This is Dope man it’s good to be entertained by something so informative and interesting
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fam.
@rashodlewis2918
@rashodlewis2918 3 жыл бұрын
lol I like hearing you talking about gear. Also, the MV-8800 was massive. It’s a big workstation. You need space in your studio or home.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro its big lol.
@slidenthru9203
@slidenthru9203 3 жыл бұрын
PRODUCERS MAKE SPACE!
@Musical.Maze.1
@Musical.Maze.1 3 жыл бұрын
It still ROCKS in my studio with S/N: ZW02078! Mine has also the 6 outs card. I have as accessories 4 disc drives and 4 TOSHIBA HD disks just in case the internal HD crashes. I'm still waiting for the NEXT MV..... MV-1? No way man...
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the MV-1 falls short.
@digitaldiezel5870
@digitaldiezel5870 3 жыл бұрын
I hope people buy the mv1 so that Roland releases an "MV8".
@AHCH12x12
@AHCH12x12 3 жыл бұрын
The MV8800 is a dope machine, I still have mine. Unfortunately, it was slept on and as you said, Roland stopped supporting it.
@dougroyce5784
@dougroyce5784 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think it was slept on that hard. If I had the money at that time I wouldve gotten it. Everyone recognized how dope it was and akai was on a downward slope at that time.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I might pick one up.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 2 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions I'm still in two minds too
@kenfolk0357
@kenfolk0357 3 жыл бұрын
My ONLY regret to buying my MV-8800 was not getting the additional output package. I love mine and just sent it out to get refurbished.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@ricardomilice2470
@ricardomilice2470 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a classic, I still have mines.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@ericdavis2790
@ericdavis2790 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions still have mine got 2 more comin
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericdavis2790 Wow your getting 2 more..your gonna corner the market lol.
@tedovision3578
@tedovision3578 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, very advanced and ahead of its time, a lot to learn, but once u learn u have a lot of producer/engineer game..
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a good thing.
@depree7
@depree7 3 жыл бұрын
Even thought I don't make beats with my MV 8800 anymore.. The sounds and especially the EFFECTS are incredible on this unit.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
True.
@HotBoyRob1105
@HotBoyRob1105 3 жыл бұрын
I want me another Roland MV-8800 Production Studio right now I love the one I lost in a house fire. If I had to chance to get another one I will get one!!!
@biglebauski8842
@biglebauski8842 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Roland MV-1 Verselab as a substitute?
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I think the Verselab is too limiting..I like the MC 707 better.
@ojmcbaggins
@ojmcbaggins Жыл бұрын
I have one. It is so complex you could never unlock all its secrets
@BladeTheMotovlogger
@BladeTheMotovlogger 3 жыл бұрын
The loading and saving was extremely slow. I still have my MV8800 and can't bare to part with it even though I have an MPC X now.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@vaughnmiller4371
@vaughnmiller4371 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Blade you have got two of the baddest machines ever produced. Old school new school. Must be nice.
@stephaneharck
@stephaneharck 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto 😐
@pasqualesorice8276
@pasqualesorice8276 3 жыл бұрын
I still got mine in the Studio Setup!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thats Dope.
@lushfauna
@lushfauna 3 жыл бұрын
me 2
@jermainelong1843
@jermainelong1843 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Aftertouch deserved two mentions!😎
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@dragon-id5uj
@dragon-id5uj 3 жыл бұрын
yo this is sick af. i'm an sp404 head (or was) but i love the HISTORY of any gear like this & hearing perspective of someone that was there in the mix at the time. sheesh, love when the algorithm finds me a banger of a channel!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fam.
@reedereed
@reedereed 3 жыл бұрын
Bought mine when American Music Supply was blowing them out for 999.00, right when they were discontinuing them and I use it to this day! Nothing makes music quite like the MV. It has its own sound or feel. You’d have to own one to really understand... Roland really is slipping for not coming out with a successor.
@BoChosen
@BoChosen 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, word... that's dope. I slept on snatching one up and I've regretted it ever since.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@henningriez7655
@henningriez7655 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions ok guys i got something for you: when i was working for Roland around the Time of the Release of the Fantom G there where Plans for an Sucessor to the Mv8800. I cant remember 100% but if i am not mistaken it was supposed to be called MV 9000 and was canceled due to the economic crisis around that time. PS: you might have a point in your statement for the mv8800 beeing to advanced for its time. Same thing with the v-synth/ GT: people were not getting the possibilitys, even i didnt back then. Since then Roland kind of stayed away from Flagship products in this market and focussed more on the low tier/less risky consumer products. From what i feel they have made a serious effort to get back to these innovative times with their new Fantom. check the specs its mindblowing
@Sinosure
@Sinosure 3 жыл бұрын
@@henningriez7655 The MV 1? Naw!! Just get an MV successor made with the speed & power of the last one & I'll be first in line!!
@edwinragland2883
@edwinragland2883 3 жыл бұрын
It was too far ahead at the time like you said. It was the first DAW. People at that time just didn't understand it. Now it would be criticized for not having enough features. I still want one.
@TheDaizM
@TheDaizM 3 жыл бұрын
IMO one of the most underrated features was the clip board button… it’s the little things…
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@mlaws11291
@mlaws11291 3 жыл бұрын
Producers weren't ready for the MV. They were too stuck in their way with the MPC and they didn't learn something new. It was truly a DAW in a box and the sound blew the MPC's of its era out of the water. It took Akai 15 years later to catch up with the MPC X and Live.
@mlaws11291
@mlaws11291 3 жыл бұрын
It was slow admittedly but if Roland made a MV-9000 with 8 outs onboard and an SSD it would've gotten SPOOKY for Akai, especially when they finessed everyone with the MPC Renaissance
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@Instrumentals4Sale
@Instrumentals4Sale Жыл бұрын
Mpc5000 circa 2007/2008 Guess you never noticed that one :)
@obscurestreetz
@obscurestreetz 2 жыл бұрын
And this lo-fi EFX processor that change bit rate and filters plus gate .... it can sound like some dirtiest old school samplers 🤯🤯🤯
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh ok.
@TARRS1
@TARRS1 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this piece existed! It honestly sounds like it would be an amazing experience to learn how to use this machine. Thank you.
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 3 жыл бұрын
it is amazing once you learn it..Try one out and you will see..They can be found for around $700...
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt fam.
@masterwise7
@masterwise7 3 жыл бұрын
I just May cop one
@lgpatterson6259
@lgpatterson6259 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember ... It ain't an MPC and it definitely ain't a 4000... And the manual is like 400 pages!! But its worth it man
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 3 жыл бұрын
@@lgpatterson6259 it sire is not an MPC and I think that was why many didnt get it or keep it..People these days are so busy being copycats and wanting things to be so easy.
@GMGOmusic
@GMGOmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I never actually had the MV. But looking back I wish I had copped one. At the time I was all about the Fantom. Now locked in with the Maschine.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@KeysBeMe
@KeysBeMe 3 жыл бұрын
Also, forgot to mention many of the features that Akai's current MPC line (Live II, X and One) have now recently gotten, the MV8800 at OS v3.52 already had ie; audio timestreching, 16 midi tracks and 8 stereo track recording, audio clips that can be triggered, muted, soloed and recorded; pro level effects, built in mastering, hard disk recording, 24 track mixer w/mute, solo, effect sends and parametric eq on all tracks. Pattern and Drum Grid recording and Piano Roll, Drum Grid and Event List Editing similar to that in a software DAW.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah akai took alot from it..If Roland puts a new one out that would be dope!
@fmagic2000able
@fmagic2000able 2 жыл бұрын
I think you meant to say the MV8000 at OS v3.52. The MV8800 last OS update was at v1.01 which included the features and bug fixes from the MV8000 OS.
@WorldSoulExotica
@WorldSoulExotica 3 жыл бұрын
the most beautiful machine I've ever owned even named her Angela, but I just could not incorporate it into my workflow AT ALL. Bought it brand new then took a loss on the sale, moved to machine rocked out for about 3 years on that ending with maschine studio. Now, ableton push 2 ALL DAY until they throw dirt on top of the casket lol
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@Iredidv
@Iredidv 3 жыл бұрын
I do wish I could connect my maschine plus or mpc one to a screen, with a mouse and keyboard but no pc. That was a great feature of the mvs.
@vinceriley
@vinceriley 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way it sounds. The sampler engine is very JV & easy to learn.
@mfbeatz
@mfbeatz 11 ай бұрын
Oh you can change the resoluton quantize! Crazy! Thinking about getting one to sequence my asr10 and tx16w
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 11 ай бұрын
Yeah its definitely a beast.
@The_Albanian_Syndicate
@The_Albanian_Syndicate Жыл бұрын
Best machine, worth every penny!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions Жыл бұрын
No Doubt fam!
@shamrockbo4957
@shamrockbo4957 3 жыл бұрын
If Roland won't bring back the Mv 8000 or 88 updated version then Behringer should do it they do it with everything else why not the MV'S
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 3 жыл бұрын
Might as well do a MV-1 video 😂
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 3 жыл бұрын
Do it! They need to make a new one! You had me at VGA cable!!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lol..Might be a lil too soon..but so far its looking ok..hopefully Roland keeps up with the updates and product line.
@MrDifferentTV
@MrDifferentTV 3 жыл бұрын
What Roland need to do is make a New MV the can got head to head with the MpcX. But will it happen the world me never know.
@ricardomilice2470
@ricardomilice2470 3 жыл бұрын
Facts Ave 🤣🤣🤣
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDifferentTV Lol brought me back to those tootsie pop commercials..but your right.
@muslinielsen7789
@muslinielsen7789 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would do a modern take on this wonderfull machine!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@sashas3362
@sashas3362 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions Roland just released the MV-1 within the past few weeks. It appears to be the latest MV. But it requires a tablet PC to make it comparable to the MV-8000 or MV-8800 in it's capability. Instead of simply connecting a monitor to the MV-1 you have to connect a tablet PC to it. I'm hoping the MV-1 is merely a more affordable lower end introductory model and they will release a better fully standalone version which you can connect a monitor (and mouse) to instead of a tablet. A tablet PC should be optional to enhance the capabilities but shouldn't be required to obtain the basic workstation capabilities you'd get in the standalone workstations from competitors (akai and maschine).
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@sashas3362 The good thing about the MV1 is that they can update it like they did to the 707..I dont think anyone should think of the MV1 as a MV8800..The MV1 only has 8 tracks..limited editing features no auto chop..they make you have to get all the way to vocal mode before you can access the full 12min sample time..and you dont get full access to the ZenCore engine..If they gave me full access to the Zencore I would deal with all the other limiting features..But i guess they feel if they were to give you all that know one would buy the 707.
@sashas3362
@sashas3362 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions How many tracks did the MV8000/8800 have? Are you sure the MV1 limitations you mention exist even when linking a tablet PC to it? Maybe they will fix those limitations in a future update. We'll have to wait and see.
@shamrockbo4957
@shamrockbo4957 3 жыл бұрын
The MV came with 136 tracks, a 128 midi tracks and 8 audio tracks but if used as mono audio tracks you could get 16 audio tracks Royal Baddest Music Crack'em "1994" I still have my MV 8000 and still waiting for Roland to pick up the ball the MPCX is just a Clone of the MV most of Roland tech team went over to Akai and took information for Roland with them the MPCX is nice but Roland For Life....Help me Roland you're Killing Me I even brought a MPCX and returned it because of the Love of the MV's WORKFLOW NOTHING BUT MUSIC🎵🎶🎵🎶 Come On Man get this Money Roland
@Sinosure
@Sinosure 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I'll have to disagree with you about the legacy of the machine. To me it hasn't reached legendary status yet. I feel people still don't appreciate this machine!! When it gets to the point of an MPC 60, 3000, or SP 1200, then I'll see it as legacy & legendary!! The MV is still very advanced!! All it needs is a faster processor for those who think it's so slow, but use an SP 1200!! Whatever!! If it could be upgraded in those aspects somehow in the current time, it would be killer! It's still a great machine!! I have one purchased new when they came out & I'm not selling it!! They were built like a tank & I still make beats with mine!! The MV still is a relevant machine!!
@MrScrooge1980
@MrScrooge1980 2 жыл бұрын
All facts
@730productionsllc
@730productionsllc 3 жыл бұрын
I still have an MV8000. Still use it, still the best all-in-one best. Drums still knock.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@shortyramirez1179
@shortyramirez1179 Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping for new mv to one day come out to connect to old mv with r-bus and other roland gear and blow all others out the water and have all their gear to connect together (King status) that's what I call support!!!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions Жыл бұрын
Lol No doubt!
@OGRagtoproy
@OGRagtoproy 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was also around the time Akai brought the MPC 5000 out and that was a beast too. Could upgrade to a nice big hard drive, full synth, audio tracks for vocals with faders for each track, lots of ram....... it was hard to beat but then at that time everybody started wanting software based bs not standalone. I always said give em a year and they’ll be back lol. Now look......standalone MPC X lol.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah now everyone is running away from there computer lol.
@madimakes
@madimakes 3 жыл бұрын
This is wild, because I hadn't even heard about this before...who was a major artist who was really using this joint?
@LennFurnace
@LennFurnace 3 жыл бұрын
Rza, he helped in the time of it's production with Roland, he produced afro samurai soundtracks, blade Trinity sound track, and eight diagrams Wu Tang album.
@madimakes
@madimakes 3 жыл бұрын
@@LennFurnace oh word! thanks for that info. straight up MPC bite from a visual design perspective ... you knew who they were gunning for. This thing looks like a beast.
@TheDaizM
@TheDaizM 3 жыл бұрын
EA Ski still uses it currently
@papawiz8540
@papawiz8540 3 жыл бұрын
blessings at you, good video, I have this one and the first one MV-8000 also i still use both, have them both full blown TB memory and sounds, the MV-8000 i have the green screen modified and changed out for the black & white one, but I still use both today, and your correct before its time, and I just wanted to say I was blessed with becoming friends with some of the engineers who wrote the programming and algorithms for these machines from Japan. so both of mines i have doing good things, also real quick on the Beatthang vid you did , mad cool, I still use it today also, never had a issues with mines, but did have some bugs, i was also able to get this one modified , now its version 1.5.2, last stopped at version 1.3.1, which had all the bugs worked out, never really worked with BTV to much but when I did i had no issues, and still make bangers on there today, for many shows,. lastly, do one on the : M: AUDIO TRIGGER FINGER PRO, blessings at u, (doing this since 1984)stay solid
@mattg505
@mattg505 3 жыл бұрын
Im also a owner/user of the MV 8000 and the Beat Thang hardware and software. Can you possibly send or put up a link for that Beat Thang update?
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Word.. ok so the beat thang did do an update that fixed the bugs..cool..The trigger finger was an interesting piece i was close to getting one.
@papawiz8540
@papawiz8540 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions yesssssssss sirrrrrr beatthang did do some updates i had got it to 1.3.1, then when i was blessed to connect with a guy from japan his said version 1.5.2. but they didnt release it. so sfter about a month, i sent mines to him, and he did mines like his also with new features, and its been flawess ever since. and yeah , the the trigger finger pro i still use, all sound packs was KILLER and custom for that unit. and works solid with DAW, , M-Audio was slow about getting me the updated firmware, cause they updated like 3 times, but i have it , and it works solid, thing is it came and went, but i still use mines.
@papawiz8540
@papawiz8540 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattg505 bless matt there was no link for the beatthang update, I found a guy from japan, that was one of the original program writers for it, and I built a relationship with him, i had version 1.3.1 and he sent me a pic of his and his said version 1.5.2 with new features. so we hooked up I sent mines to him, and he did mines like his, new features before its time, and my card slots now can take 64GB instead is 32GB, but its been solid and flawless ever since. there was never a link, i just dug deep and found the algorithm and program designers of the machine, and whew! they are hard to find. just a bless and a load of luck bro
@MeneTekelUpharsin
@MeneTekelUpharsin Жыл бұрын
@@papawiz8540 What machines do you have?
@freeagentbeats6170
@freeagentbeats6170 5 ай бұрын
It’s was the greatest groovebox/sampler ever I still use mine and I have everything else Akai. Maschine etc ..
@rottenandremixedrecords
@rottenandremixedrecords 3 жыл бұрын
Most people just didn't realize it's a whole recording studio
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@thadirtyabbott33
@thadirtyabbott33 3 жыл бұрын
Dope Machine! My only problem was I kept tryna use it as a substitute for my mpc 3000 and Roland VS-1680. In essence it is. And more...👍🏾
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ok.
@lorenzoburton3974
@lorenzoburton3974 2 жыл бұрын
I sold my feature packed MV and got the MPC 2000XL - MCD
@godscience7821
@godscience7821 Жыл бұрын
I had this but couldn’t get the workflow right. Your absolutely right when I bought it the guy was like the workflow was hard
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions Жыл бұрын
Yeah they had some returns.
@markchristopher2signal2
@markchristopher2signal2 3 жыл бұрын
Ok you have a nice theme going on here. What had happened was lol.. even I'm repeating that saying in my head cause it funny to me. Btw Roland MC505, Roland MC303, Roland MC909, Yamaha RS7000, Yamaha RM1X for ideas. These were my groove box and full blown sequencers(Yamaha RM1x, RS7000, MC909 - all can sequence your synth and samplers). I like 👍 this channel. It's light hearted and witty. This reminds the MV8800 of my Akai MPCX cause it's connected to my iMac as I'm in controller mode all the time.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fam..definitely got some of those videos on my list lol.
@markchristopher2signal2
@markchristopher2signal2 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions even Iike the EMU Planet Phat rack and Planet Phat groove box (purple looking one) sounds sooo radio ready
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 2 жыл бұрын
People have to actually buy the gear and support it,for a company to follow up with it..When I got mine,i got it mint for less than 1/4 of it's original price..I am also checking out the MPC X and more..I love samplers because they are probably the more versatile components out there..The people DID NOT support Roland,because I have one and it's still relevant...
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you on that..This was a featured packed machine when it came out.
@MJamesIII
@MJamesIII 3 жыл бұрын
I went from a FULLY loaded MPC2000XL to a MV8000 thinking the game is changing. Biggest mistake I had ever made. My workflow suffered horribly. After 2 years of being unproductive on the unit, I sold it for the MPC5000. That made me miss my MPC2000xl even more. I didn’t sell it, but I dove heavily into my software (Logic) and I paired it to the MPC Renaissance. Finally, my workflow started to evolve. Years later, I now use the MPC X with Logic and couldn’t be happier.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
The X is nice..its like a daw in a box..and super fast workfow.
@fessgrandiose
@fessgrandiose 3 жыл бұрын
mannnn this takes it back i worked at Guitar Center during the years when this was still new on the market, i sold a few and had more than few get returned or sold back to us for an MPC 2500, a Korg Triton or even a Roland Fantom, which was doing a lot better in sales at that time. I definitely agree that the 8800 was far ahead of its time, i thought it was dope especially the fact that you can hook up a monitor and use a mouse! but i couldnt afford one back then and i was actually a lot more intrigued by the more affordable roland sp-606.. actually maybe we can get a wah had happened was on the sp-606?? great series G!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt fam..Thanks..lucky you you got to try out all that gear at the time..I would have went crazy lol.
@thablackkat9905
@thablackkat9905 3 жыл бұрын
I've never used it but one of my old friends, Apex, used it before he even got the "I Get Money" placement with 50 Cent.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ok Nice.
@jaxager
@jaxager 2 жыл бұрын
"who reads the manual nowadays?" Well, if you have a piece of Roland gear, you won't. Lol. I friggin' love Roland. Most of my gear is Roland. But their manuals may as well be written in Sanskrit for as shortly as they are. Thank God for KZbin videos.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao!..I feel that way about some E-mu gear..The MP/XL7 has like the most confusing manual..But the PX7 makes total sense Lol.
@joeb.4204
@joeb.4204 3 жыл бұрын
these are a steal for the price theyre going for rn
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Wizhoffa
@Wizhoffa 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Mv 8800's and have had 3 all together.... still using it over my MPX-X...
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@hnationmusic3099
@hnationmusic3099 Жыл бұрын
I had one around the time it came out and ended up selling it. I couldn't get with the feel of the sequencer as mentioned in the video. I was like ?????????? But I'm going to revisit this machine. I loved the features , just couldn't get with it. Another piece of gear I wish I had not have sold.
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions Жыл бұрын
Oh ok..I feel you.
@picardftw1313
@picardftw1313 4 ай бұрын
had one of these and sold it. It was alright but not the best for what i was needing to do.. so i went the DAW route on pc
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 4 ай бұрын
No doubt.
@highdr0w
@highdr0w 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your swift response...thank you sir
@highdr0w
@highdr0w 3 жыл бұрын
Yo native shades.... I think ama need one of these weekly nah'mean? This that loud
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@highdr0w Lol. no doubt.
@thelabby9998
@thelabby9998 3 жыл бұрын
It was ahead of it's time but the timestretching (from VP9000 and Vsynth) was fast shadowed by computer programs like Acid and also Fruity loops slicer plugin... then not so many years before it came Maschine and Akais had the jjOS doing some nice tricks (like audio stem recording!). In the end it was very misunderstood as usual and regular hiphop headz never get too deep in production to understand all the marvels it brung at that price point. It's like the sp555 being cheaper than the sp404... nuts!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@thelabby9998
@thelabby9998 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions Do you know about koala app? It's even on Android... ;)
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelabby9998 Im not to much of an ios guy.. but it looks pretty dope.
@thelabby9998
@thelabby9998 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyReckProductions give it a chance...
@anotherwolff3650
@anotherwolff3650 2 жыл бұрын
I have never ever heard of the MV-8800...... Thanks :)
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt bro!
@TheGrelots
@TheGrelots 3 жыл бұрын
Love my mv
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u.
@Leatherneckforlife
@Leatherneckforlife 3 жыл бұрын
Great revisit of this machine. As a previous owner of both MV 8000 and 8800, I agree that if Roland had continued the development of the MV 8800, it would've been among the top "studio-in-a-box" machines. Perhaps one day, Roland will muster a team of modern-day minded developers and resurrect this machine to a new and improved version...then, the alarm clock just woke me up...😒
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@injesusoutreach
@injesusoutreach 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you all and Jesus loves you all. I miss my mv8800. I brought mine used it was like new. I really wasn't using so I sold it. Now I use the Mpc X. You brought back memories. great video and you personally really shines and comes through when you speak. I can tell your a cool laidback brother. From one brother to another. God bless you and thank you for sharing and bringing me back in time. Jesus loves you my dear brother and so do I . God bless you and your family. Bro. Todd
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Same here bro..Thanks!
@mcdan2696
@mcdan2696 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cows! I felt the same when I bought my Korg Krome in 2012. 6 months later, Roland dropped the FA-06! It had a built in Sampler! I literally wanted to cry!
@DyReckProductions
@DyReckProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@comfy_21771
@comfy_21771 5 ай бұрын
Idk i like being able to take a piece of gear and sit with it in bed. Its awesome something could do everything but being forced to work on synths or play bass or work in a jam and only that thing really helps me focus. Being able to do everything? Thats just overwhelming (and sounds expensive)
@Iredidv
@Iredidv 3 жыл бұрын
There is also this interview with Mike Acosta, where he admits that the os was never ever 100%. It became semi usable at the point the 8800 came out after the 8000.
@lushfauna
@lushfauna 3 жыл бұрын
100% what they wanted but the thing works great and does tons i luvv it
@philtyrich1
@philtyrich1 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no you aint gonna dis the MV800/8800 this is my second all time favorite sampler next to my SP1200 . Ive owned the MPC 3000 , ASR 10 , MPC 4000 , S950 and the MV Series was nothing more but bad marketing on Roland's part because years later alot of company's like native instruments and akai jacked elements from the series work flow . If you really want to see what this Bad Boy can do check out WAXDAT8800 on youtube He's the Jedi Master of that machine .
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