My 2020 RAM 1500 Failed The Test Towing A 7000 Pound Trailer | Here Are The Options You Will Need!

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JB Reviews

3 жыл бұрын

So My company truck was setup for highway cruising and not for towing. The way this truck was optioned, it is missing key items that would have helped this test go better, find out what they are! Be sure to like, subscribe, and share!
Info: www.ramtrucks.com
Truck Used: 2020 RAM 1500 Laramie 5.7L Hemi w/ eTorque

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@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
The reason a WDH was not used was because I tested a Nissan Titan/Ford F-250 without it to see how well the trucks handled the weight on their own 👍🏾
@Dwarf86
@Dwarf86 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but the suspension of a 3/4 ton is way stiffer than a 1/2 ton
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
This is true but if you plan to tow, it makes more sense getting a bigger truck in my opinion. If you are just pulling a boat every once in awhile and plan to go camping 3X a year, this truck would be adequate!
@foreverfixin
@foreverfixin 3 жыл бұрын
even with a 3/4 or a 1 ton I would still have a weight distribution hitch the reason being is it ties the load to the truck better and distributes the weight put more of the load on the front wheels of the tow vehicle
@53bigmikejones
@53bigmikejones 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 F150 Eco-boost and towed an 8154 lb Cross Roads with NO PROBLEMS using WDH. Towing anything over 5000 without one is inviting trouble while towing. Friend towed a 10000 Outback trailer with a Ram 1500 Hemi, with airbags and WDH for several thousand miles with no issue.
@foreverfixin
@foreverfixin 3 жыл бұрын
@@53bigmikejones I will be hauling a 1983 Carver Monterey 26 which has a dry weight of 5300 lb and I will be pulling it with a 1982 G25 Vandura GMC done by Skyline a Class B camper van which is rated at 7600 pounds I'm putting one ton suspension under it and my boat trailer has 3 axles I will still be using a weight distribution hitch that is rated to pull with surge brakes
@michaelfonseca4077
@michaelfonseca4077 Жыл бұрын
I have a 30' travel trailer with two slides and weighs just over 8000 lbs. When I purchased my 2020 ram 1500 e-torque, I made sure to get the 3.92 rear end, 6.4 bed and I installed Firestone airbags. ( $500 ). Levels perfectly and pulls with ease.
@Chris-wk7xq
@Chris-wk7xq Жыл бұрын
you often pull 8,000 lbs with a 1500? im looking to do the same thing. i have a 20ft enclosed. need to tow an expensive car. thanks
@BoneStack117
@BoneStack117 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-wk7xq if they have the V6, they are overloaded at 8000lbs
@retroelectro1190
@retroelectro1190 3 жыл бұрын
Avid camper here....Get a weight distribution/sway control bar. You'll be amazed at the difference! UPDATE...After watching the entire vid, I realized that you were aware of this fact.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rkalla
@rkalla 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you guys for being safe and responsible with the towing.
@jamesfrancis9725
@jamesfrancis9725 3 жыл бұрын
Equalizer weight distribution hitch and your truck needs the 392 rear end. Just like any manufacturer there are options that you need to get those max towing numbers.
@billm4262
@billm4262 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Ram Rebel 5.7 Hemi and agree 100%. At a minimum get the trailer brakes. That helps a lot.
@PMELKUS
@PMELKUS 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 Ram 1500 which has the tow package. I installed a set the Firestone Air Bag right after I got it and that make a big difference .
@bw4851
@bw4851 3 жыл бұрын
I know how Mikey P felt. I went from a 1500 to a 2500 with a 6.4. I got tired of white knuckling my truck when towing my boat on trips. Keep up the good work.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gutierrezc8709
@gutierrezc8709 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited with the Ram Air Suspension. With my 4,000lbs trailer hooked up it doesn't squat a mm. The system auto-levels itself. I added a weight distribution setup to help with the handling. Even though it auto levels, without the weight distribution system, it's handling was squishy. After adding the weight distribution system, it handled like a pro.
@galexander9857
@galexander9857 3 жыл бұрын
Re: Trailer brake controller. I bought a brand new 2019 RAM 2500 with Cummins diesel, air suspension, and fifth wheel hitch, in March 2020. It DID NOT come equipped with a trailer brake controller. WTF!!! I asked for one to be installed prior to me picking it up. Nope! Nothing. I called MOPAR Parts in Windsor Ontario. I was told the Dodge Brake Controller is on back order because there are MANY faulty trailer brake controllers installed on trucks that require replacement. MOPAR told me to buy an aftermarket controller. I installed the Tekonsha P3. It is AWESOME! Better than the Dodge controller.
@georgecampean3766
@georgecampean3766 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that truck. I tow 6500lbs on a 1000 miles trip about every month but with the legal requirements ( weight distribution hitch, trailer brake controller) it drives like a dream. With the WDH it only drops one inch and is almost leveled. For a brake controller I use the Bluetooth option that requires no wiring and no setup). 3.92 axle 70mph in 7th gear @ 2250rpm. 9.5mpg
@mike1567
@mike1567 2 жыл бұрын
No one would ever admit their truck isn’t enough truck for their trailer. Everyone would tell you “it drives like a dream!” Those people, more often than not, have never driven a 1 ton truck (or even a dually) towing a trailer. It’s like claiming a Toyota Camry drives like a dream when you have never driven a Bentley.
@devingodard116
@devingodard116 Жыл бұрын
@@mike1567 towed multiple trailers with a 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, and 10 ton trucks. Same trailer loaded the same way, by far 3/4 ton at 8000lbs would be my choice. Would I tow 8000lbs with a 1/2 ton sure does it pull perfectly fine yes. Would I tow 8000lbs with a 1/4 ton, no, will it do it yes slowly and without to much issue.
@sammysmirh3889
@sammysmirh3889 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job gentlemen very good video and very informative keep up the good work
@MMcDowell23
@MMcDowell23 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I’m look in at a ram and eventually getting a camper like that as well, and I am planning on air bags, weight distribution hitch, 3.92 gears.
@proudamerican5518
@proudamerican5518 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honest review. Thank you.
@foreverfixin
@foreverfixin 3 жыл бұрын
A weight distribution hitch would really help you I suggest the Hensley
@mr.confused5137
@mr.confused5137 Жыл бұрын
WD hitch and air bags is what I got to tow my 7500 pound camper tows like a dream
@johnboy8783
@johnboy8783 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 19 ram 1500 laramies. Both alike but one is a quad cab and one is a crew cab. I tow a 30' travel trailer weighing in at 7500 lb, tongue weight of 750. I have a weight distribution and sway sway bar setup rate for 10,000 lb trailer in my trucks come with the factory trailer brake control and 392 rear end. These trucks handle the weight amazingly with the power brakes and suspension. No matter what truck you are pulling with weight distribution sway control trailer brakes etc is always needed.
@Achilles2014
@Achilles2014 3 жыл бұрын
Adding timbren is way better than air suspension. No maintenance, no more air leakage possibility and it's straightforward easy to install and cost about $225. It does not change your ride comfort it only engaged if there's heavy load, it's the best upgrade I had on my trucks suspension!
@jeffjensen9547
@jeffjensen9547 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of truck? My F150 struggles with my trailer and I’m thinking it’s mainly due to the weight in the back. It’s not leveled properly. I was thinking Firestone Air bag kit unless I saw your post.
@johnpark6481
@johnpark6481 3 жыл бұрын
You need Weight distribution system. You can add on. That thing not only distributes weight to all 4 tires, but also prevents swaying when on highway.
@roundsm18
@roundsm18 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an extreme oversimplification of what it does and not all weight distribution systems provide sway control - that’s an add on.
@ramdominguez1791
@ramdominguez1791 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 ram 1500 built to serve edition. It came with the 3.92 gear ratio, and a 33 gallon gas tank. I tow a 24ft travel trailer and it does its job. With a wdh. I had my dealer throw in the brake controller to close the deal. Ram 1500 are pre wired for brake controller. Just have to add the switch and module, and program it in.
@steveclark9881
@steveclark9881 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a trailer brake controller on both of my vehicles. The second rig is a 2006 Dodge Durango AWD/4X4 w/5.7 L Hemi, 3.42 Differentials, 5 speed Automatic, trailer brake controller. I also use the WDH and have had no problems towing the 7000 lb trailer.
@kylezarnowski8285
@kylezarnowski8285 3 жыл бұрын
I have aftermarket air suspension and a weight distribution hitch and mine is level and will hold cruise at 70 with no problem. I also have a factory trailer brake controller and 3.21 gears. So not the towing gears and still does fine. But its gonna squat...its a half ton, not a 3/4 or 1 ton. And a nissan titan is technically considered a 5/8 ton. Its an in betweener.
@bruhkisg6662
@bruhkisg6662 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video...very informative
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Appreciate it 👍🏾
@kingofslotsmillion3263
@kingofslotsmillion3263 6 ай бұрын
Great video I appreciate your time
@jeffa7173
@jeffa7173 3 жыл бұрын
My 2019 Ram limited disengages the rear parking sensor automatically. I think thats due to the integrated trailer brake. Anyway, you gotta give the truck a fair chance with a trailer brake and WDH.
@losmazeman
@losmazeman 3 жыл бұрын
This ^ Brake controller and WDH. Get the towing package too - transmission cooler, bigger radiator, bigger fuel tank.
@charliebelle6693
@charliebelle6693 3 жыл бұрын
The hitch has to be set up correctly to reduce the 'squat' and a weight distribution system would reduce it even further.
@steveclark9881
@steveclark9881 2 жыл бұрын
You should always use an equalizer hitch for any trailer over 2000 pound GVWR. I tow a 7000 lb GVWR trailer often with a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 Standard Cab Short Bed using a Equalizer Hitch and have had no problems or failures. It is equipped with a 5.7 liter Hemi, 3.92:1 differential ratios and 5-speed Automatic transmission. A 7000 lb travel trailer has a tongue weight of about 700 lbs.
@marksr20ser
@marksr20ser 3 жыл бұрын
why not add the air lift 1000hd bags in the rear for $150? i feel that it would help with sway
@darrenmazyck75
@darrenmazyck75 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re testing towing you guys should set it up as you would actually tow with weight distribution and brake controller.
@brandedmcgowan9414
@brandedmcgowan9414 2 жыл бұрын
3.92s would make a huge difference in towing in low rpms increased mpgs and steep incline pulls
@jam471975
@jam471975 3 жыл бұрын
A weight distribution hitch would level out that truck, airbags really are not necessary and I would definitely get a weight distribution hitch before I would get airbags. My previous trailer was only 21 feet and 3100 pounds of dry... when I first got that trailer I thought I would be able to get away with not using a weight distribution hitch with my half ton truck, but after a couple times Towing in the wind I realized I needed it for even that small of a trailer.
@dsmitty8991
@dsmitty8991 3 жыл бұрын
JB I love the videos, you always do a great job. I’d like to see a video with a ram towing a trailer like this that is specced out to tow.....airbags in the coil springs, brake controller and a decent WD hitch and sway control. Towing a travel trailer without a WD hitch is like playing hockey with no skates....not realistic. Hope to see something soon! Keep up the great videos!
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I will see what I can do 👍🏾
@hemangmehta9679
@hemangmehta9679 3 жыл бұрын
I also haveba weightbdistribution hitch with the roadmasternactive suspension. My inly issue is the truck struggles going up hill can go up to 4 or 5 rav, i think its the chevy 5.3 not enough umph
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@gwendolynbrown9386
@gwendolynbrown9386 9 ай бұрын
Great Video!!
@jessen3725
@jessen3725 2 жыл бұрын
@JB Reviews with the factory break controller it automatically turns off the rear sensors.
@bryanjones2388
@bryanjones2388 3 жыл бұрын
Weight distribution hitch will help
@oftheseaband
@oftheseaband 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice!
@elmaestro6106
@elmaestro6106 3 жыл бұрын
I think JB your right about the 3/4 ton trucks. I had a 2017 RAM 1500 and was towing a 6200lb dry weight 26bhs and was near max payload. It pulled it, but the trailer would push it around especially out here the higher elevations. In the end I traded in for a 3/4 ton and huge difference in terms of control. I think if your towing more than 7000lbs 3/4 ton is the way to go.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, I know it’s not what people wanna hear but from my experience even in the past, 1/2 tons are not a great towing experience on long distances even with the necessary equipment. Thanks again 👍🏾
@seansiegers4994
@seansiegers4994 3 жыл бұрын
When legally towing anything over 5000lbs a weight distributing hitch is required in most states. Air bags may help level but will not properly reload the front axle for proper handling.
@mad125100
@mad125100 3 жыл бұрын
I have this same truck with 3:92 rear end. I use a WDH when towing my travel trailer. If I add air suspension will it counteract the WDH?
@Airea613
@Airea613 3 жыл бұрын
2010 Ram1500, 5.7 single cab 8 foot bed factory towing package. 7500 lb trailer 500lb bike in the bed ,,I have air bags but it doesn't need it with a WDH..... 18 to 28 liters per 100km Been all over the eastern US and Canada with no problems .Except for the china bomb tires on the RV. Love my Ram
@larrybenedict4984
@larrybenedict4984 Жыл бұрын
I love the way these truck manufacturers/salespeople lead you to believe that your truck can tow the maximum, I.e. that 12750 lbs. That is for the stripped down 2 wheel drive model. That’s what my Ram 1500 was supposed to tow too. Turns out when you throw in the crew cab and 4x4, mine drops to 9600 lbs towing capacity. Then the trailer sales people stating the dry weight of the trailer and telling you your truck should have no problem based on that max stated capacity.
@codesharp28
@codesharp28 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2015 321 rear hemi pulling 4100lb boat & trailer. Added factory brake controller. Ride rite in coil air bags. And snap on and off tow mirrors. Bags and mirrors less $175 total. Brake controller negotiated in deal. Max tow on 321 8000lbs. So pulling half that in air splitting boat haul is a breeze. And 410lbs tongue wt is level and smooth.
@Davvidd702
@Davvidd702 10 ай бұрын
How do you expect it not to squat when you don’t have a distribution hitch
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 3 жыл бұрын
Man the blue powa wagon is B E A utifull!!! You should also test this with the eco diesel “with the trailer brake”. I’m Curious what you think of it
@angelorosin5090
@angelorosin5090 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Hunt I couldn’t agree more. My 1500 was the same color and I liked it so much I got the same color for my 2500.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
It really is! Stay tuned as I have a couple of videos you’re gonna really like! If I can get a used one I will 👍🏾
@qwizziethakid
@qwizziethakid 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the trailer brake control is becoming a more standard option for the 1500, 2021 year model.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so 👍🏾
@thenuclearoption1976
@thenuclearoption1976 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a 2020 2500 ram tradesman in bowie with 4.10 gears with snow package and they told me the trailer brake was on backorder or recall so after I financed they told me to pay 750 for a trailer brake..went to buy a trailer and they said its 250 to install and I legally can't leave with a trailer until I get it installed.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
the nuclear option 😵😱😨 They can’t take it off another truck to sell?
@thenuclearoption1976
@thenuclearoption1976 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork with this pandemic and all the money floating around the dmv these guys want to get you and the truck off the lot because there's someone else coming in 5 minutes looking for a truck.
@FALLEN9336
@FALLEN9336 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenuclearoption1976 thats strange that it didnt come with an integrated trailer brake. Thats what my 2020 ram rebel 1500 has
@smeggy22
@smeggy22 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 Laramie and tow a ~5000lb keystone bullet 243bhs - with break controller, 3.92’axle, etorque and air suspension and get no squat at all (although it can do some funny things with raising and lowering itself when hooking up) Etorque makes little to no difference. The blind spot monitoring is clutch. The axle helps with towing capacity but doesn’t make a difference for payload. 2021 they introduced 360 cameras built into the towing mirrors, something I miss in my 2020 Sway control and wdh are essential. I wouldn’t bother testing anything without it.
@jf8564
@jf8564 3 жыл бұрын
Equalizer hitch. The E4 is the absolute best bang for your buck and the easiest system out there to use. I'm on my 3 ram 1500 now and I also have a camper. Dry weight on camera is 7800 pounds. It's a Puma polimino 31rdks anniversary edition. It's hot a gross vehicle weight of like 11 thousand pounds and I know I'm right the at it with all the wires shit. But anyways my ram is a crew cab long bed hemi with the 392 rear. I've been all over Maryland and Pa and no problems at all with power or handling. But again bro the equalizer e4 hitch. To me the best in the world. I have the 14k model.
@joefish33
@joefish33 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! What website were you using to browse for trucks (around minute 12:30)?
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was ram trucks.com looking for towing tab at the top 👍🏾
@Chris-wk7xq
@Chris-wk7xq Жыл бұрын
why not use an adjustable tow hitch? allows you to create the best angle for where the load is sitting.. so it does not sag as much where the trailer and truck connect
@davedave9780
@davedave9780 3 жыл бұрын
As long as everything looks good that's all that matters..forget about safety..lol
@bambambino23
@bambambino23 3 жыл бұрын
Good video guys!!
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott!
@jdhreiss
@jdhreiss 8 күн бұрын
You need spring weight transfer bars to pur more weight on the fronts. My 2013 F150 towed my 7k lb trailer and only settled 3/4" when the spring-bars were set up. Weights were within 100 lb between front and rear axles. The OEM air suspension will not transfer weight to the front like the bars do. My 2013 Ram 3500 was set up the same way. Even out the front/rear axle weights for hands-free driving.
@jeffbacon2060
@jeffbacon2060 Ай бұрын
I have 2020 Ram 1500 classic, 5.7 hemi, pulling 26 ft 5th wheel Grand Design 150 series. Haven’t had any problems, just wondering if anyone else was putting 5th wheel with their 1500.
@jerrypurnell4066
@jerrypurnell4066 3 жыл бұрын
You need to watch video on how to tow with a half ton ,weight distribution bars would change everything. I have a half ton truck n my trailer is 8900lbs tows just fine
@graysonhicks5568
@graysonhicks5568 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of truck are you using? I have a 2019 Tundra and I’m looking at a 32 footer that weighs 8K dry. Wondering if I’m going to have to get a 2500?
@jerrypurnell4066
@jerrypurnell4066 3 жыл бұрын
1500 ram eco diesel
@wildeman7443
@wildeman7443 3 жыл бұрын
@@graysonhicks5568 tundra can’t tow crap. I had one and it was a max tow rating in the 4x4 crew cab of 9100 pounds. Don’t remember payload. So yeah forget that and awful mileage without a trailer.
@felipelara6234
@felipelara6234 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for the info as I am looking to buy a Ram 1500. Do you know how much the gas mileage drop while towing?
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks it depends on how much you’re towing, if your climbing grades, and wind. Figure between 6.5-10 MPG
@brandondavis9628
@brandondavis9628 3 жыл бұрын
We use a WDH and town our toy hauler which is 11,275 lbs fully loaded and don’t have a problem
@gagegowans668
@gagegowans668 3 жыл бұрын
With a 1500?
@jeffe4638
@jeffe4638 3 жыл бұрын
My 2014 ram 1500 does good pulling my 2021 grey wolf 29TE it's a 36ft
@marksmith9459
@marksmith9459 3 жыл бұрын
A weight distribution package would probably bring it up a inch to a inch and a half.
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same truck with the eco-diesel engine. Depend on axial gear ratio 7k is the max tow weight for my truck. I do have air bags and the full towing package. I still wouldn’t want to tow 7K. I think the most experts recommend on 80% of you max tow weight.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
@roundsm18
@roundsm18 3 жыл бұрын
The reason is control. Bob wins! If you’re using a weight distribution hitch you bought the wrong truck or couldn’t justify going bigger for the minimal number of times per year you tow it. It’s for handling, braking and control purposes that lots of us own 1 or 1.5 ton duallys for farm stuff while Karen and Brad tow a 7,000lb horse trailer with a F150 and wonder why none of us have the same hitch.
@27dmarshall
@27dmarshall 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2018 Ford F-150 with the 5.0L (10-spd Auto), 2063 lb payload, 9100 lb towing capacity. The truck pulls my 6000 lb (empty), 7600 lb GVWR, 31 ft travel trailer very very well. I ordered the trailer and had many months to wait for it to arrive. As I waited for the trailer to be built, I began to second guess myself...was my 1/2 ton truck going to be enough truck?? I was really concerned that I was going to be saying "Hey babe, I'm going to be spending a extra $75,000 on our camping budget....I now need to buy a 3/4 ton truck ($$$) to pull this trailer with"! As I waited for trailer delivery, I did what I could to give my half ton a fighting chance. I installed a Ford OEM brake controller, Ford tow package HD front sway bar, and Ford OEM tow mirrors. I was concerned about stability so I upgraded the rear suspension with a set of Sumo Springs (1500 lb version) and added Bilstein 4600 shocks. Upon pulling the trailer home (900 miles) I was very very happy with the stability and ease that my truck pulled this trailer! No sway, No horrible suck then push from semis. I feel it when semi trucks pass, but it's not bad at all...much less than I was imagining. I'm no longer concerned that I need to drop $75,000 plus on a 3/4 ton. The 5.0L (395 hp, 400 lb-ft) does well. I get 10 to 11 mpg when pulling, 21 mpg when not pulling. I've also got a Borla dual cat back exhaust (S-type). Sounds sooooo good. Not too loud, but definitely elevates that beautiful V8 soundtrack. * I also use an Equilizer hitch (12,000 lb version).
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
That’s big payload numbers and the added parts make sense to help make towing easier, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@dearbulls
@dearbulls 3 жыл бұрын
You need weight distribution hitch to tow that much.
@MickPsyphon
@MickPsyphon 3 жыл бұрын
As I've said many times, _"a properly equipped RAM 1500"_ can tow a trailer of that weight. Either the air suspension, or simply upgrade the stock suspension. The latter will change the ride, but if you're towing, you need it. The other question that comes to mind is what options you have on your truck. Weight distribution hitch, trailer brakes are necessary and 3.92 Gear.
@galexander9857
@galexander9857 3 жыл бұрын
Driving a 7000lb trailer without connecting the trailer brakes is a BAD IDEA, regardless of you doing only 30mph.
@MickPsyphon
@MickPsyphon 3 жыл бұрын
@@galexander9857 In my opinion, if a vehicle is towing any sort of considerable weight without trailer brakes, the the tow vehicle isn't properly equipped. It's 2020; and there's really no excuse for not having them. I wouldn't even consider it an _'option'_ anymore. It's mandatory equipment.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
The Titan brakes performed extremely well and it goes to show because Nissan doesn’t have an HD line up, they over build their trucks to make up for it. I understand why RAM makes trailer brakes an option and it’s due to people not really towing as much with trucks. I don’t agree with it but I understand. The 1500 would have no problem moving the towing capacity weight set but to anyone that may be between 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, I am suggesting they get a 3/4 ton.
@MickPsyphon
@MickPsyphon 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork Most people who buy pickup trucks today, rarely put more than groceries, a hockey tote bag, or something from Ikea in the bed. So, for those people regular brakes are more than enough. It's ready about getting the right tools for the task at hand. Sticking with the tool metaphor, I've allowed family and friends to borrow my power drill, because they all purchased the cheapest drill they could get, thinking that it's all they needed. Their drills just weren't capable of drilling concrete, or driving screws flush I to hardwood. Back to vehicles... one thing that I always do with any vehicle that I own, is to replace the OEM brake pads, rotors and/or drums, after the first set of brakes are worn down, using upgraded parts. I installed cross-drilled and slotted rotors, with ceramic pads. This provides huge improvements in braking performance. Depending on the vehicle, I sometimes replace the brake fluid with a higher spec fluid. That can sometimes means upgrading the brake line assembly, but its worth it, if you live in an area where you apply the brakes frequently.... anywhere with lots of hills, or if you drive in city traffic a lot. The last thing you need is brake fade, due to the fluid boiling over.
@Dachamp2001
@Dachamp2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork most ram 1500s the trailer brake is optional. I'm one of the lucky ones my 1500 has the full tow package and the 3.92. Ram 2500 and up the brake controller comes standard
@anthonyhumbert8787
@anthonyhumbert8787 2 жыл бұрын
Any camper dealer would tell you to use a weight distribution style hitch system when towing that big of a camper with a half ton truck.
@jd3849
@jd3849 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Rebel, Sits higher, anyone still need to use the air bags for a 8k lbs trailor?
@mpuuloa
@mpuuloa 3 жыл бұрын
Good review 👍
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me get the footage 👍🏾
@mpuuloa
@mpuuloa 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork You're welcome brah!
@frederickstalbaum4478
@frederickstalbaum4478 3 жыл бұрын
I tow a 32 ft with my 1500 sport and i had to install air bag system between the axle and frame.
@johnboy8783
@johnboy8783 3 жыл бұрын
Airbag or any type of leveling for the rear suspension is not doing much good but making it look level, in that case you were still light on the front end which is affecting your steering and breaking, weight distribution is the only way to fix this problem and no matter what truck you put it on even if it doesn't look squatted in a rear end you are still taking weight off the front which is why every truck should have weight distribution when hauling certain weights
@frederickstalbaum4478
@frederickstalbaum4478 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a distribution hitch also
@charlesmarshall2697
@charlesmarshall2697 Жыл бұрын
I have an air suspended 2020 Laramie longhorn E-torque with tow package, trailer brake, 3.92 E-locker and have added long tube headers, pulsar tuner and stiffer tires. Have towed an 8,500 pound trailer without the slightest problems. I don't have tow mirrors and don't need them. I prefer this truck over a 3/4 ton because of the far superior interior and a much better tuned chassis.
@mikerose1266
@mikerose1266 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that 1500 although a great truck 3/4 or on ton would be much better. I would be concerned about going over payload and GVWR.
@carloswrice5585
@carloswrice5585 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been debating Ram 1500 or 2500. Not really looking at a huge trailer. Max would be 24’ 4,000lbs. Thinking the 1500 would be enough. What do you think?
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
I think 6k or less is perfect for a 1/2 ton 👍🏾
@03dvldog
@03dvldog 3 жыл бұрын
So even though it has a higher tow capacity then a Power Wagon by a couple thousand pounds....The Power Wagon still tows better?
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
James Milam 💯
@upshifter5316
@upshifter5316 3 жыл бұрын
TBH 2.5 inches squat is pretty standard. Most half tons squat that much if you put a loaf of bread in the back. The progressive spring designs nowadays are such that the nice ride comes in the first few inches of travel. After that the “do work” part of the spring engages. It’s why the rake is so bad in modern trucks - they are expected to squat a good amount to do work.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense and I do agree that modern day trucks seem to squat more compared to pass trucks. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@TMJ32
@TMJ32 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my 2019 Ram squats down quite a bit. You need a weight distribution hitch anyways for a trailer like that.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct 👍🏾
@luisgarci6815
@luisgarci6815 Жыл бұрын
Or add some leaf springs and it should be fine if your on a tight budget
@lisakuehn6436
@lisakuehn6436 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks that was what I needed to know. The air suspension is not easy to come by, but worth the wait.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
No problem! I’m hoping to find a used one soon and doing a towing test 👍🏾
@dantereynolds2160
@dantereynolds2160 3 жыл бұрын
Air suspension isn’t always the answer; some people still use a Weight Distribution Hitch with Air Suspensions. There’s also the overall cost, maintenance, and weather related issues. I had a 14 RAM 2500 w/Rear Air Suspension and Auto Level and loved it, but also had to pay for repairs because the system had occasional issues. I now have a 21 RAM 1500 and use a WDH, which when setup correctly, levels my truck and tows great. Both systems have pros and cons, and can often come down to personal preference, so do yourself a favor and do diligent research to make the best decision for you. Best of luck!
@silkemueller1391
@silkemueller1391 3 жыл бұрын
@@dantereynolds2160 does the wdh come with a package ram offers or would I have to do an aftermarket install? Im a newbie and need something that can tow 9000lbs (2 big horse trailer) so i need something that can tow about 11000lbs and im considering the ram1500 diesel incl air suspension wdh and towing package. You think that would be enough?
@jesseparkhurst3037
@jesseparkhurst3037 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2019 ram 1500 limited with air suspension and a 5.7 hemi. It leveled the truck well, I still ran a wdh. It didn't pull my 7000 pound camper very well at all. It spent all it's time in 3rd or 4th gear getting 6 mpg or less. I traded it for a 2500 diesel. It has no issues towing my camper. The 1500 was beautiful, and rode nicely but wasn't a very good tow rig even though we were with in its rated towing capacity. 3.92 gears may have helped it but I don't think it would have been enough
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Jesse, I literally am about to post a video soon on a limited 1500 lol! Be sure to look out for it 👍🏾
@brandedmcgowan9414
@brandedmcgowan9414 2 жыл бұрын
3.92s will pull it fine but i don't push it pass 70 mph on the interstate plus activate tow/haul mode and set the cruise and you will notice increase mpgs. My 2012 does exactly that pulls like a champ.
@scottlively2495
@scottlively2495 3 жыл бұрын
Or a hitch that you can adjust up and down
@sonsofliberty3081
@sonsofliberty3081 3 жыл бұрын
2.5 is normal for all 1500. 2 makes it level. I pull horses around at 8k, I've hauled a trailer load of wood that was 10k. I did put airbags inside the coils later because I wanted it at 2 instead of 3 at the 10k. The bags were 120 dollars, you drop them inside the coils and run the airline back to the license plate and fill it like you do your tires. Keep 5lbs in the bags running around, when you tow you can put up to 50lbs, don't do that haha. I put 22lbs in pulling around 8klbs. The sag just makes the truck look level. Makes it handle better as well. 10k I put 32lbs in it. Now if you do that, I'd still get a weight distribution hitch for the truck. I have the same 3.92 gears as well. Power is definitely not an issue, even at 10k. I'm getting a bigger horse trailer with living quarters and can haul 4 horses. I'm going to upgrade to a 2500 with the 392.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff 👍🏾
@nicinterlagos4515
@nicinterlagos4515 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos. Question. How is the towing with the Power Wagon. Looking to get one but low payload looks to be a problem if I wanted to have a 5th wheel or trailer 8-9k lbs. any info would be great. Thanks.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I would skip the PW if you want to tow a fifth wheel and I would go with a 8000# GVWR trailer which should leave you about 400#’s for passengers/cargo 👍🏾
@nicinterlagos4515
@nicinterlagos4515 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork got it. Thank you. And I went back and rewatched the power wagon vis with Mike. Great vids btw.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏽
@Yukonjackman1
@Yukonjackman1 2 жыл бұрын
Its not only you on the roads. Safety is a concern.
@hemiedup5501
@hemiedup5501 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do some more videos with your partner power wagon
@DanielGarcia-zz9eg
@DanielGarcia-zz9eg 3 жыл бұрын
$500 you can upgrade the Spring coil to help with the Squatting. Any lift truck shop can help you with that
@jamestopeka2236
@jamestopeka2236 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Ram 1500 off road package and I pull more than that easily .5.7 Hemi and I use anderson weight distribution system .
@jimmcknight3021
@jimmcknight3021 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious, but why didn't you test it with a weight distribution hitch? A lot of folks use that hitch system in conjunction with their air suspension in order to minimize squat.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see how well it handled compared to a Titan/F250. I didn’t use it for those trucks either.
@jimmcknight3021
@jimmcknight3021 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork okay, it's just my understanding that the equalization hitch would probably work with that truck. However, I would not want to tow that heavy a trailer without a truck brake controller switch. I think it's good that you show people how quickly you run into problems on towing a trailer that large without the proper equipment even though the manufacturer says you can pull more weight than that.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
💯% correct! Even with the proper equipment, I believe this truck is adequate but I would jump to a 3/4 ton if planning to tow a lot👍🏾 finally someone gets me lol!
@DavidBrown-jt7yi
@DavidBrown-jt7yi 3 жыл бұрын
Hey JB, loves the breakdowns. You mentioned the Aisin Transmission for your Ram 3500 not being refined. You should hook up with Paul over at PD Diesel, he had the same issue but worked with his dealer to figure it out. It might save you some headache. Keep up the good content.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I got mine reflashed because of what PD Diesel said but I just haven’t driven that truck all that much to give my impressions on it yet. I plan on parking my 1500 and driving my 3500 a little more soon to give my impressions 👍🏾
@DavidBrown-jt7yi
@DavidBrown-jt7yi 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork not sure if you will see this JB but have you noticed any improvement in your Aisin since the re-flash? I know you've been driving that awesome widebody around so no worries if you don't have time to respond.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!! Dude you must have seen me today because I literally just pulled my truck out after about 3 months of sitting! Planning to get footage of a 1 year ownership and I will discuss this too!
@DavidBrown-jt7yi
@DavidBrown-jt7yi 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork awesome. Look forward to it. Thanks.
@loulehnhoff2637
@loulehnhoff2637 3 жыл бұрын
I put coil over shocks on the rear of mine I tow 7k no problem with v6
@MrTacoJay
@MrTacoJay 3 жыл бұрын
What rear axle ratio do you have? And what kind of mpg you get unloaded with the v6? I’m about to purchase one anyday now
@loulehnhoff2637
@loulehnhoff2637 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTacoJay got really good millage till I put 35s and a level kit still get about 19 highway
@loulehnhoff2637
@loulehnhoff2637 3 жыл бұрын
Towing is impressive for a 300 horsepower v6
@davidspacek7750
@davidspacek7750 3 жыл бұрын
Question: is this trailer actually 7000 pounds as shown here, or is that the max weight of it? Thanks!
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Trailers actually weight is around that but I think the GVWR is over 8k
@mrcai2812
@mrcai2812 3 жыл бұрын
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@mitchellestes4178
@mitchellestes4178 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 14 ram 1500 quad cab 2wd and pull my 33ft camper that weighs 8000lbs with no problem and have done it for 5 years now and I also hauled the shingles for my house which was 10000lbs with no issues
@dottiemaddox4086
@dottiemaddox4086 3 жыл бұрын
So if I buy a 2012 Ram 2500 Outdoorsman crew cab...will I be okay towing a 33 1/2' 2014 Keystone Hideout at 6900lbs?
@XploreAz
@XploreAz 3 жыл бұрын
The 2021 1500’s will have the power folding tow mirrors.
@mikeshuck2760
@mikeshuck2760 Жыл бұрын
That hitch on the PW is sad. Where did that come from?
@dnorton1961
@dnorton1961 3 жыл бұрын
Over 4k pounds you need weight distribution hitch I tow 7k with my RAM I did put airlift on it to take bounce out
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I tested 2 other trucks without it so wanted to make it fair 👍🏾
@roundsm18
@roundsm18 3 жыл бұрын
You can easily do 10,000 without a weight distribution hitch. Just stop towing things with small trucks at 99% of their capacity. There’s been a misnomer for years that everything over x weight needs one and a lot of general knowledge lacking on how the system functions. I’ve also heard someone say that it’s required by law over a certain weight.
@ammogiant824
@ammogiant824 3 жыл бұрын
What's the tongue weight on the trailer, you need to know exactly before you tow.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Between 600#-700#
@jimchopchik2633
@jimchopchik2633 3 жыл бұрын
Towing without weight distribution is a must You will be moving weight to the front wheels with just airbags you’re hiding the squat yet still losing the weight on the front and losing steering abilities
@angelorosin5090
@angelorosin5090 3 жыл бұрын
A few questions. Did you have a weight distribution bars on? It doesn’t look like it. The manual says you need them for any trailer over 5000lbs. What was the fender/wheel measurements on the front axle? That trailer is well within the capabilities of the truck.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
We did not, I tested a Ford F-250 and Nissan Titan without it a WDH so wanted to see how well the RAM could handle the weight
@angelorosin5090
@angelorosin5090 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. My Ram 2500 with the rear air suspension would level out that trailer with no problem. The 2500 manual also says a WDH is required over 5000lbs.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Angelo Rosin thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
@EBKRV412
@EBKRV412 3 жыл бұрын
Yep weight distribution hitch required for anything over 500lb tongue and or 5000lbs. this trailers tongue weight is 660 empty without battery or propane or anything in it so I bet this thing is close to 800lbs tongue weight
@MikeG33
@MikeG33 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. Good information you are putting out. I'm from Md. as well, Southern Md. Take care.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Long live MD Blue Crabs 😎
@mike4769
@mike4769 3 жыл бұрын
A good pair of bump stops 👋👋
@knightwing4
@knightwing4 3 жыл бұрын
You’re supposed to use a weight distribution hitch on a 1500. That’s why it sags so much.
@AN-kg4ei
@AN-kg4ei 2 жыл бұрын
100%. WD hitch should push 400lbs or more of TW to the front axle.
@paulrodrigues9603
@paulrodrigues9603 3 жыл бұрын
WDH manufacturers don't recommend using air bags. I wonder what they say about air suspension because you can defeat to effect of the WDH. I'd like to know.
@unclerico1980
@unclerico1980 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you’re supposed to adjust your air springs first and then use the WDH. You don’t want to adjust the WDH using the air ride
@jamestopeka2236
@jamestopeka2236 Жыл бұрын
Timbren bump stops would help
@nickjohnson8626
@nickjohnson8626 3 жыл бұрын
Question I'm thinking about buying the same truck but with the 3.92 and tow package. I have a star stream 29ft 5500lb dry weight/ 7100 gvwr, would you guys feel safe towing it or do I need to look into a used 3/4ton. I would like to daily a 1/2 ton and tow maybe 10 times a year.
@JB_WhoWork
@JB_WhoWork 3 жыл бұрын
This truck would be perfect for that size trailer. My point for the video was just showing everything you’re going to need to tow a trailer with this size truck 👍🏾
@nickjohnson8626
@nickjohnson8626 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork I really appreciate your input!
@MrTimbo1997
@MrTimbo1997 3 жыл бұрын
Put timbermen bump stops in i putt them in place of my bump stops .I tow trailer will fix it
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