My 2024 Wifi 7 Whole-home Mesh Router Real-World Test Review

[@AlexTeo]

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[@robertommb]

It isnt a Smart Home gedget but do you have a Mini Whasher/Dryer Machine recomendation ? One that suport 3kg of laundry and go fixed at the wall? We used to have a Electrolux Mini Dou here in Brazil 3 years ago but they discontinuated it.

[@POV118]

GOOD MESH WIFI. You are the man giving me most informative wifi mesh information in Singapore from KZbin

[@AlexTeo]

thanks man

[@Tbagstealer]

I got a BE85 before seeing this video haha, but I love it so far!

[@acerod1]

Hi Alex! for the deco be85 does it support wired backhaul? as i am staying on a landed property and rely on the wired backhaul for lv1 and lv3 decos x68

[@danneow2032]

Great informative sharing, thanks! Quick question - If my subsequent 2nd (2nd floor) and 3rd nodes (3rd floor) are wired using cat 5e cables, will this limit my 10Gbps speed to only 1Gbps? Should I just ditch my ethernet and use the Wifi 7 for the whole house instead? Or should i consider upgrading my cat 5e cable to cat 6 (which may be costly and involve reno work). Thanks!

[@AlexTeo]

if you are gaming then wired is still better because of latency. I will definitely rewire everything to cat 6 if I am you

[@vahnseymour150]

It will be great if there's a guide on how to set this up... I wanted to add more mesh into the home but worried that the setup can be quite complicated...

[@AlexTeo]

then you can refer to my older videos where it has a setup guide

[@vahnseymour150]

@@AlexTeo Will find it, thank you.

[@michalmalanowicz7595]

There is one test missing, which is seamless hosts switching between nodes. I found this to work poorly on Asus, but I'd like to see how others handle such scenario.

[@d3ricktt]

Watching from Australia, keep up the good work for reviewing networking products.

[@waterbubbler44]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Great speed review. I have BE85 and been using it close to 1 mth on viewqwest 10GB plan. I'm still waiting for the SFP+ module so that I can bypass the modem and have 1 less device in my DB. Been getting between 6 to 8 GBps down and up thus far. The unit are HOT! So I bought 120mm fan and let the deco sit on top of it.

[@AlexTeo]

Ya I realize the wifi 7 units are all much hotter

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

Interesting that you actually the piece on a fan. I have a number of fans from old computer builds, from 45mm to 140mm and most in quite good shape, so I guess I could handle that bit easily. I don’t like having to put heat in the house and then have to remove it through cooling especially in summer. It’s paying for the power use twice, essentially. I do want those Wi-Fi 7 speeds though, so I guess a sacrifice will be due. Right now the highest speed fiber plans in my area are 5 gigabit per second, and they more than triple the price of a gigabit plan. Since I’m not running any Internet servers and my gaming needs are relatively small. I probably won’t upgrade the plan at this time. The main benefit for me of upgrading Wi-Fi would be reliability: my office computer is ~85’ from the modem/router also passing through 4 walls and a floor, so either upgrading to a mesh system or possibly putting ethernet to an old WiFi 6 router in AP mode (~55W) will work for now. WiFi 7 may have to wait, hopefully before the advent of WiFi 8! Paying to future-proof technology before you can actually implement it, as in at my house, can just be an expensive process without the best result.

[@waterbubbler44]

@@TSPhotoAtlanta your analysis make sense. Reliability is usually always top priority. I don't mine sacrificing some speed for reliability and stability.

[@inthebackseats]

Good mesh wifi!! As always thanks for another informative video!

[@cellist203]

Hey Alex, there’re lots of new wifi7 routers being introduced by telco recently, specifically tp link HB710 and HB810. Will u be doing any review on it soon?

[@AlexTeo]

sorry i have no plans to cover those

[@JerryOschegger]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Thank You! Alex for the complete and honest review.

[@bedsheet61]

Can you help me understand what's the thinking behind putting the modem and router behind a DB box that blocks off signal? What was HDB thinking?

[@AlexTeo]

beats me haa, last time it's only 1 data point to the tv console area so can only put your main router there and do wireless mesh

[@hereislcchuan]

Thanks alex for the batch review! GOOD MESH WIFI for my new house!

[@snoozymoo]

Long time Fan Alex, great info in this video. I am personally using TP link AP but i am getting choppy internet, not say long breaks, but every 30 mins or so it will have like a 2 second which stuff stops loading (especially apparent during scrolling), and then it goes back ok. What could be the possible cause?

[@AlexTeo]

Have to troubleshoot whether it's device problem or signal or even firmware

[@forestbugs]

Hi Alex, is Deco BE65 Pro available in Singapore? I don’t seem to be able to find it on any online store. Able to share where i can get it?

[@Gnautt]

GOOD MESH WIFI - getting my new place in the next 2 months and would love to get it to kickstart my home journey!

[@benhaze1010]

Thanks for making this review! One thing to consider if in US and likely in Canada too by association is the recent US government going after TP-Link.

[@AlexTeo]

oh is it, what happened?

[@benhaze1010]

@@AlexTeo US Government is concerned with TP-Link routers have reportedly been shipped with security flaws linked to Chinese cyberattacks. There is a good article on CNET about this.

[@goodielafuente6146]

Another good and informative honest review on wifi7. Great job Alex👍

[@AlexTeo]

thanks!

[@seowboonseong7575]

GOOD MESH WIFI.Thank you Alex for always updating the new products in your KZbin videos.

[@I_billed_that_beard_guy]

Good video and yes, I am still rocking my Wi-Fi 5 setup with a whooping 45 Mbps speed!!

[@AlexTeo]

😂

[@0502xy]

GOOD MESH WIFI - Doing up my new place now and winning the router would be a wonderful christmas present :)

[@Coffeedad]

How can i find the fish screen saver you had on your tv?

[@edwinheng660]

Great video! Are you able to do a comparison between the ASUS GT BE98 and the TP Link GE800?

[@AlexTeo]

Sorry I won't as I personally don't recommend such setup 🙏

[@edwinheng660]

@ thanks for your reply. But may I know why? I was planning to connect 2 of the either mentioned using wired backhaul.

[@turbokid2151]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Good video for planning wifi in my new house!

[@SeanMahoney33]

Aloha from Hawaii, USA! Great video. I'm torn between the Orbi 970 and the Deco BE95. I have a 2 story home and have 3GB Fiber into my home. I game on a high-end PC so I want the spoeeds but my wife and daughter just like to stream 4k services. Thanks for the detailed information.

[@AlexTeo]

@@SeanMahoney33 won't go wrong with either one!

[@LesterChan]

I was reviewing the BQ16 as well and the firmware is buggy. Some of my Google Nest devices has to be factory reset and repaired in order for it to not dropping connection with the router. I have to change the mnodulation scheme so that the 2.4GHz devices stop disconnecting. I am using wired backhaul, so placing the nodes has no issue for me. After some tweaks, it is stable for 2 weeks so far.

[@AlexTeo]

yeah the BQ16 is ok after a few tries, not the smoothest experience though

[@xceedinsanity]

The 4:01 SFP+ can be used as a wireless backhaul, freeing up the WAN/LAN ports for connection.

[@AlexTeo]

u mean wired backhaul right?

[@xceedinsanity]

@@AlexTeo Yup. Wired backhaul.

[@vchen6354]

Good mesh wifi Your vids help me out a lot as a newbie. Keep it up n thx bro

[@Nick-rw9ib]

GOOD MESH WIFI - hoping to get it for my upcoming place! Thank you for the sharing!

[@AlexTeo]

congrats on the giveaway, DM me on IG!

[@trickytricky100]

Hi Alex Question please I have a Ring camera out the back garden will these mesh systems work with the WiFi cameras to receive and view thanks

[@AlexTeo]

yes, as long as the wifi signal is good enough at the ring camera

[@joansbeef4035]

Good mesh wifi! Thanks for all the information as always, just timely for our move in 😊

[@kerubin4172]

So happy that you have release this episode. Liked! I wanted to know about TP Link Deco85 firmware as I heard is not good. (Coming from an Asus consumer)

[@AlexTeo]

thanks for the support! connection does drop at occasions when moving around, but so does the other models too

[@chinsin83]

GOOD MESH WIFI - thanks for creating such content to allow normal consumers to understand more all these confusing jargons

[@saffwanshah]

Love your videos, genuinely helping me a lot for my first ever BTO project. Just a fun fact, wanted to ask if you sell any of your services so my house have a GOOD MESH WIFI 😅 “GOOD MESH WIFI”

[@AlexTeo]

Yeah can DM about it :)

[@Noboruwee]

Which version of firmware was on the BT10? Any chance to test again with the latest December firmware ?

[@AlexTeo]

the latest version at that time of the video, they do have a firmware update to address the issues but overall, I think the firmware for all wifi 7 are still not at a stable state, including the deco BE85

[@jarroldooi]

Good mesh wifi! and good video review too! Very useful advice as I'm about to get a new home broadband for my new home.

[@chamomilebliss]

Hi Alex,will you recommend a ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wifi 6 or ASUS TUF Gaming BE6500 (WiFi 7) for a 3 room old HDB with open kitchen concept?

[@AlexTeo]

the XT8 is meant for mesh setup with at least 2 nodes, if you are going with those single router setup then don't get the XT8

[@chamomilebliss]

@AlexTeo I see,any recommendations for 1 router? Not sure if it offers sufficient coverage

[@eunicewong4138]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Thank you Alex, SG can always count on you for any informative tech information!!

[@AlexTeo]

thanks for the support!

[@square721bt]

What units are you graphs in? Mbps?

[@jonpaulseah1617]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Thank you Alex. I always buy my stuff after watching your videos.

[@AlexTeo]

Haha nice!

[@leemk9563]

Great sharing on Mesh Wifi 7 for early adopters and will stay with my Wifi 6 for now. Fortunate that I have relocated my fiber point in an open space and not worrying on heat and space for my wifi upgrade later. GOOD MESH WIFI !!!😊

[@AlexTeo]

Good stuff!

[@AlexTeo]

congrats on the giveaway, DM me on IG!

[@antoniuswisanggeni1188]

HI Alex, what is the phone series that u use, for MLO ?

[@AlexTeo]

i use google pixel, my partner uses vivo X100

[@JoJo-o9g9p]

what do you think of asus router BE9700 RT-BE92U? Thanks!

[@AlexTeo]

i only recommend either mesh or ap

[@JoJo-o9g9p]

@@AlexTeo yeah it has AI mesh capabilities, let say if i buy 2, am wondering how does it compare with ASUS ZenWiFi BQ16 vs TP Link Deco BE85. Also am keen to know why did u pick Dec BE85 and not ASUS BQ16 thanks!

[@AlexTeo]

@@JoJo-o9g9p i know you can do AI mesh, same for tp-link and other brands as well, but my experience with that is not great and not exactly the same as a proper mesh system. I picked BE85 based on cost vs performance, as well as user experience

[@JoJo-o9g9p]

@@AlexTeo Thanks a ton!

[@dwighthan7309]

Good Mesh Wifi. Love your informative video! Keep it up!

[@fruffy2303]

GOOD MESH WIFI. thanks Alex for the informative video again !

[@PorsheyAragon]

Hi Alex, Great and very informative review! However, it would be better if you were to include a local speed test in your review as well. As in a device-to-device speed test comparison. This would exclude all other variables that could affect the real performance of these meshes by taking the ISP out of the picture. I think a raw throughput comparison would be really helpful for some people who have servers in their home. Nonetheless great work!

[@AlexTeo]

yeah next time when i'm doing a comparison again, will definitely consider setting up a local test server. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@JoJo-o9g9p]

Hi Alex! Had done the Deco set up but am having 1-2secs lag issues when moving through rooms due to access points change, can I know how to solve this issue? Im on 10 Mbps starhub plan and I only have 1 port working on my modem. I am unable to get my data points in my rooms to work as port 2 3 4 are all not working on ONT. Hope you can help :) Thanks!

[@AlexTeo]

i think you probably got the network setup wrongly, the room data points should go to your main deco node, not to the ONT

[@JoJo-o9g9p]

@@AlexTeo Hi Alex, Modem has only one port working per starhub and hence the modem is connected directly to the data point for the tv console and my main deco is on my tv console. I have not put a main node in the DB board as the deco is getting super hot in an enclosed area. Not sure if I should be doing it. what are your thoughts? Also, even if i have a main node in the DB board, I am having the issues of 1-2 sec lag when i move thru rooms. first node - DB board, 2nd- study, 3rd main bedroom furthest from the main node

[@jylee9682]

Good mesh wifi! Anyway im using the BE85, had to get a 10g switch to do all wired backhaul.

[@AlexTeo]

Yeah expensive...

[@lecherhao86]

Good Mesh WiFi. Alex, thank you for your honest recommendation. I am also of the same opinion that Deco BE85 would be the most worth for money after looking at the average stat.

[@rolandrohde]

This is interesting... I have been trying to get TP Link Mesh system to work, but always had to give up. I run a BE230 main WiFi Router (connected to my ISP Router) and the two RE3000X Extenders with Ethernet Backhaul. As long as everything is in AP mode there are no issue, but the moment I try to configure it as a Mesh it keeps losing the connection to the Internet every 2 Minutes. Pretty weird My AVM Fritz Mesh system worked just fine, but the WiFi quality there was just not the same as with the TP Link components.🤷‍♂️

[@AlexTeo]

such a setup is really what i don't recommend

[@rolandrohde]

@@AlexTeo I don't have much of a choice though....🤷‍♂️

[@fiferox]

You can mention that the deco can create a good mesh wifi with older model. I have an old E4R and a x50 and it work great but I can't no longer buy a x50 due to inflation.

[@AlexTeo]

i won't recommend to mix across different generation actually

[@polemanCG]

GOOD MESH WIFI - Alex really be saving SGporeans life

[@scchan8814]

GOOD MESH WIFI, GREAT REVIEW VIDEO. Your videos are very helpful for my new home setup.

[@maxisham4724]

Test results say Asus bq16, but the hardware section mentions you're testing the BT10? Which is correct?

[@AlexTeo]

explained at 5:31

[@hendrykaede11]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Thank you Alex!!

[@ecclesz]

Looking at some 5 Gbps plans with local ISPs (Starhub, like yours, is now bundling a wifi 7 router with their plan). Are these mesh units capable of a mix and match mesh solution (sticking to the same brand)?

[@AlexTeo]

it won't be a mesh solution this way, you will just be using the mesh unit as just an access point when you wire them up, basically its a setup that don't make much sense. I suggest not to get any add-on routers from the isp so that you can build a proper home network

[@ecclesz]

@@AlexTeo Thanks for the advice. In the test with BE65 with a 5Gbps, are you effectively limiting the bandwidth to 2.5Gbps? I've seen Tp-link have a BE65 Pro model on their site (comes with 5Gbps port) but doesn't seem to be sold anywhere.

[@warpcode]

Do any of these support vlans? That's the only feature missing for me without going commercial grade

[@AlexTeo]

nah, not from these mesh systems

[@josephd9079]

Nice video back haul will come into play when we have a wide and odd shape 2 to 3 level house :)

[@AlexTeo]

oh yes!

[@josephd9079]

@@AlexTeoWill not want to sleep beside the router when sleeping :P Also two nodes should be enough.

[@adikenwongco6525]

hello Alex, may i ask if TPlink HB810 (BE22000) router can connect to another HB810 to act as mesh extender?

[@AlexTeo]

yup, don't see any issue with that

[@ChuaMartin]

Good Mesh WiFi. As always, thank you for the test review video of the latest WiF7 Mesh System.

[@shahmohamed9147]

GOOD MESH WIFI- Am a fan of tp-link, looking to upgrade deco m9.

[@noahchew8749]

GOOD MESH WIFI - to be honest these router companies boast unrealistic speeds and are really misleading for consumers, tks for making this video to show the performances in realistic situations :)) KEEP IT UP GREAT CONTENT!!

[@AlexTeo]

yeah have to look pass the marketing fluff

[@JzdLin]

Good mesh wifi.. any thoughts on deco BE95?

[@AlexTeo]

Only difference from the BE85 is it's quad band, don't see much benefit so far so you can probably save some money going with BE85

[@lyzh3626]

Good Mesh Wifi - great informative video as always, thanks!

[@lixingchen8293]

would you say that the walls in your house are mainly concrete? also whats the total area of your house?

[@AlexTeo]

ya singapore houses are full of concrete walls, about 1200sqft

[@mclalasky7210]

HI Alex can i check with u how check your house cable install by hdb is 5e 6 or 6a cable ?

[@AlexTeo]

Should be Cat6

[@Panasonic88]

Are the IoT devices (eg WiFi bulbs) on legacy 2.4ghz stable on these WiFi 7 router? Read reviews that some IoT 2.4ghz devices couldn’t connect to bq16

[@AlexTeo]

For Asus n tplink, some devices couldn't connect to a network with MLO enabled so have to configure another separate network. Only Netgear orbi no issues

[@kcirrred9923]

What is the use case for 3-5gb backhaul? I am still stuck with 1gb backhual from m1

[@AlexTeo]

ehh i'm confused whether you are asking about backhaul or ISP plans..

[@d3athkai]

GOOD MESH WIFI - Thanks for sharing the review of the Wifi 7 Mest routers.

[@Illair_V]

Good to see GOOD MESH WIFI, will be nice to upgrade from 4

[@AlexTeo]

that will be a huge jump

[@alvinkhoo]

GOOD MESH WIFI... Great job alex as usual..... thanks for the recommendations

[@AlexTeo]

congrats on the giveaway, DM me on IG!

[@gjay428]

GOOD MESH WIFI Video is abit technical but appreciate this for future reference!

[@AlexTeo]

Thanks for the feedback, I tried to keep the technical parts brief n as layman as I can

[@vhol93]

Nice !

[@kaizer1560]

GOOD MESH WIFI Thanks for the review❤

[@zhzh135]

My boy just landed a razer deal. Awesome!

[@AlexTeo]

😁 sg company should support sg content creator!

[@benjaminfoo7967]

hi, can advise if the eero max 7 router good?

[@AlexTeo]

@@benjaminfoo7967 I think that they are good for the price

[@mingweibeh5133]

GOOD MESH WIFI. Good info and learning points

[@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14]

Hello alex, what tplink switch is compatible with tplink be22000 hb810 wifi7 AP? I have 10gbps plan so does it mean i must get switch that can connect at 10gbps?

[@AlexTeo]

it's not a must, the speed will automatically get stepped down to what the switch or port supports. But this means that you are not making good use of your 10gbps plan

[@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14]

@ yes unfortunately since singtel charge me for additional mesh. 1st additional unit at 17$ pm , 2nd unit at double the price, plus the plan if i get 5gbps - ends up little more expensive than the 10gbps plan. So might as well go for cheaper 10gbps plan.

[@MM_HELLO]

GOOD MESH WIFI!

[@matthiasc1]

Good mesh wifi! Thanks for the informative video.

[@jjj8491]

What app did you use to analyse the WiFi band?

[@AlexTeo]

Wifiman

[@rl1050]

out of curiosity, why do you need more than 1gbps broadband speed?

[@AlexTeo]

for faster internet speed? to maximize that is of course to go with wired connections, anyway 1gbps plans are phasing out in singapore already

[@1MW9]

which is the best broadband plan in singapore?

[@AlexTeo]

i prefer to go with the bigger telcos since the smaller players are tapping to their infrastructure anyway

[@letdoit]

Hi. Checking if turn off MLO, for 6ghz band, is it only main router have this function? 2nd and 3rd mesh won’t have?

[@AlexTeo]

Referring to which brand?

[@letdoit]

@ tp link. All brand different?

[@AlexTeo]

​@@letdoitall features, all settings are applied to the entire network, not configured on the node level

[@chillipady]

GOOD MESH WIFI for my new house!

[@bedsheet61]

Your test of speed is over wireless? How about if you connect an ethernet cable?

[@AlexTeo]

erm yup wireless, you mean wired from router to device? what is the purpose of this test?

[@bedsheet61]

@@AlexTeo To see which router is the best for wired backhaul. Especially for gamers or people who require high internet connect. Some folks really need that Gbps and curious to see if there's really a big difference among the different routers.

[@AlexTeo]

@@bedsheet61 there are no difference for wired connections on these routers as long as it has the ports to match your ISP plan

[@bedsheet61]

@@AlexTeo I see. The BE65 has 2.5gbps port. does it mean max speed is 2.5 gbps?

[@AlexTeo]

@@bedsheet61 yup that's right, then these bandwidth would be shared across all the other connected ports

[@sglatitude]

GOOD MESH WIFI Still rockin’ WiFi 6E Mesh here but I like that Orbi design. It reminds me of KOR One water bottle which appear in Ironman 2 movie 😂

[@AlexTeo]

yeah looks cool!

[@mathyoo0987]

Hmmm high cost to adopt. But the results quite underwhelming. With my current mesh provided by the ISP that is Wifi6, i can get 700mbps and at times 800-900mbps (iphone 15 pro wifi). Running a 5gbps plan on wired backhaul, 2 nodes.

[@AlexTeo]

i believe that is a speed you get without much interference, you can potentially hit 1500mpbs and above with wifi 7

[@AndrewLee98]

GOOD MESH WIFI Thank you for the informative sharing!! I am still on my google wifi mesh 😂

[@AlexTeo]

6e?

[@MrHelloAP]

GOOD MESH WIFI, Can you compare ISP ? wifi is not only a good router but also depend on ISP. Thank you

[@AlexTeo]

Just to confirm that you are referring to intrusion prevention system (IPS)?

[@MrHelloAP]

@@AlexTeo sorry typo, ISP, internet service provider

[@平常心-d4k]

Good mesh wifi Would be good to see Eero Max 7 being compafed

[@AlexTeo]

too bad its not sold in singapore

[@bane1009]

I always find it very wasteful to put a good router inside the DB box. Any solution to that?

[@AlexTeo]

actually the DB box is a good spot for my floor plan to push signals to my kitchen and video doorbell outside, you can always place it somewhere else in the living room area or go with AC+AP

[@michalmalanowicz7595]

household shelter? wow...

[@RandomPersonOnTheLine]

What's the point of having 5gbps service when your wired speed is 1.3gbps? I get around 1.2gbps wired and I'm only paying for 1gbps and using stock equipment.

[@AlexTeo]

none of my test result is based on wired speed, I am not trying to test whether my ISP is giving me the correct speed i subscribed the test scenario is to see how much actual speed are you getting under different types of connection and interference

[@RandomPersonOnTheLine]

@AlexTeo I see. I'm just curious about this because I see it alot I guess.

[@rontay7601]

Can u show tp link be805e

[@UrHainanBoy]

For a 5GB connection, the performance of the Wifi 7 mesh is not justifiable to upgrade to 5GB plan it seems

[@AlexTeo]

It's easier to maximize that for wired connections, not for wifi

[@user-zg8mj8gc3r]

thank you sir

[@janicepeh8412]

Give it some time maybe the price will drop? Nonetheless good review! Good mesh wifi!!❤

[@AlexTeo]

I hope so!

[@FARDAYNETWORS]

Just upgraded my Laptop to WiFi 7 need GOOD MESH WIFI for my new house!