My BIG issue with small Gimbals // Zhiyun Crane 2 Review

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[@mattih]

Whats your favorite Gimbal so far?

[@BoredProgression]

I've been wanting one for a while, but it seems all of them have drawbacks that make me wanna wait. Looks like this one is no exception, unfortunately. :(

[@TheBeardBringer]

I had the Zhiyun Crane V2, but it broke the first day of using it. Used it with my Nikon D500. But now I'm using a Moza Air and I love it.

[@eatdeath4]

I like my glidecam but i recently got the ronin-m. I really want a movi but both of mine work for what i need them for.

[@AlexandreTelles]

Matti, maybe just putting the motor strength option on HIGH probably the 1DX wont jiggles anymore, try that, I have one btw, for me its a great gimbal, nothing to complain

[@Filmujemy]

Since you changed the name of the channel, I have to learn it from the beginning - that my viewers could find it: /

[@sthalxndr]

False information in this video: Zhiyun released a gravity adjustment plate to accommodate the 1DX mark ii. I own both the crane, the adjustment plate and it works flawlessly. Also - you said you don't want to "battle" with a tool - it should just work? In what universe does anything work right out of the box? Not even glidecams work immediately; hell, you have to BUILD the glidecam before you can even use it. You should have taken your time and balanced it properly to avoid the nodding. You're doing a big disservice to this company by not having followed the instructions, and presenting the product to the masses as if it's faulty or defective. The crane isn't faulty, your *"let me throw it on and NOT balance it or change the motor settings"* mentality is faulty. To any 1DX people reading this, I own this setup with a 1DX and if you balance it like you're supposed to do before shooting, it will work just fine. No nods or defects. I'm just upset becuase this is the first company in a long time that's actually taken the time to listen to its customers, and change what needs to be changed; i.e. the 1DX not originally fitting on the crane, so they made a new adjustment plate to accommodate. I like your channel, but you shouldn't review anything until you have actually done your research. It's not fair to these companies who are doing their best to help consumers like you. I'm sure you wouldn't like that to be done to you with your company/ luts/clothing biz or whatever else you offer.

[@juanlistello8606]

Seth Alexander 👏👏👏👏

[@MikeSantis]

Seth Alexander totally agree with you. Really bad video from Mattie this time. It just shows that he didn't reallly bother to use time to get to know the product before reviewing it. I just hope at least that he takes his time to read here.

[@Evannanvin]

Well said bro....you have to spent some time....especially when you prefer glidecam than anything else

[@jaisonwaiste9575]

well, you just did a service to zhyiun...I didn't know about the gravity adjustment plate but just learned about it through your post and ordered one..thanks!

[@jaisonwaiste9575]

I know, when he said "I heard it can accomodate the IDX", i was like....dude why didn't you try and verify before making the video. lol

[@CyberEditing]

Did you have the power set to high? I use the Crane 2 with a heavy Sony PXW Z 90 without any problem. The dual handle accessory is really useful though. It's impossible to use with one hand.

[@hellohogo]

Love ya matti buuut, you gotta dig in more. Firstly, zhiyun makes a new gravity arm for the crane 2 that is longer for the 1dx. Second, that nod only comes when the motor setting is not turned to strong, and/or you’re not balanced. Here’s a pic of my 1dxii on the crane 2 with a canon 85mm 1.2 lens! No wobble at all! instagram.com/p/BfaNG6-BJZ6/

[@mattih]

Thanks for the insight!

[@mattthomastelford1188]

Yep! I had the same issue on a Sony A6000.

[@Shanefun]

Totally agree and I’m a fan Matti, but your video just felt like you didn’t want to like it before you tried it. Not to mention the there are accessories now that make the the ixd 2 easy to put on. Also crane 2 is easy to use with the handle on top which is simply not possible with the glide cam. You didn’t even mention advantages like that. I get you like what you like but I enjoy your reviews when they are more comprehensive. Still a fan though and your videos are great!

[@MelvinJoseFilms]

Yeah, I just bought one and the first thing I did was change the motor setting to the strongest setting.

[@TheZX11]

Yeah, I think he didn't have it really balanced. He seemed to have it pendulumed so the weight was just at the bottom, not centered. Nice big gimbal but my entry level DSLR is too light for the Crane 2 or glide cams. The V2 is a better fit. I guess the glide cam is a better fit for the OP's style.

[@RobertArmstead]

@matti - Zhiyun made an extension arm specifically for the 1dxmk2. You also have to adjust the settings to "Strong" to get it to handle the 1dx mkii, it handles my c100 just fine and it is a bit heavier. I hate to be critical of your review - but you really should learn the tool first prior to review. Also the dual handle makes this tool better than the Ronin-M in my opinion.

[@131media]

C100 mark I or mark II? And what lens do you usually use with that setup? I have a C100 mark II (and would probably use my Canon 24-70 F2.8 mark II with it) and have been contemplating this gimbal but wasn't sure how it would handle my camera and lens setup. Thoughts?

[@RobertArmstead]

I have it on with a 35mm 1.4 and I have gotten it on with the 24-70 mk i. It works because the camera is back heavy enough to allow it to balance sufficiently. The main issue with this setup is more about adjusting the aperture, focus, and overall settings while in use as you will not be able to balance this setup with the grip on the body. For the c100 mk I, the focus dial and controls do not work. I do not know how they will function for the mkii, but I am going to have to purchase a grip relocator and devise a way to wire it to the camera.

[@InstinctVisuals]

Robert Armstead totally agree mate, the guy always does reviews like he knows what he is talking about tough its obvious he hasn't really used it and haven't even bothered to lookup stuff he had issues with (mostly because lack of knowledge or experience) and states stuff that ain't true. I remember his gh5 review.. was about the same.

[@247.mp4]

Ferencz Török... Or the spark review. Said camera isn't good but didn't test it really. This dude does everything for the clicks without real content. I think he rents the stuff just for 1 day

[@andytroy]

Like other people said, you've to change the motor settings for heavy cameras, takes 5 seconds to do in the menu. I can use my RED Scarlet-W on this Crane 2, so a 1DX shouldn't be a problem. And you can buy a dual handle for the crane 2, works really well.

[@BrentHall]

Great video Matti! I think you need to download the app and change the motor settings from "weak" to "strong" in order to get rid of the "nodding."

[@matthewb9776]

When you tested the 1dx did you change the payload weight setting to high? it shakes if the weight load is set too light or heavy. If anyone else reads this you can get dual handles with it which i like because you have the option of a smaller or larger setup which is good for travelling. In regards to the case i didn't notice any smell.

[@DCAFlyBoy]

Good work! On your 6D what lens do you have? Thanks!!

[@RivenX3i]

Confused... If you don't like the whole stick on bottom and cam on top, why don't you just undersling it? It's way more efficient and stable. I've never rocked with these with the cam on top.

[@monnone]

What about the dual handle accessory? Have you tried that? It might satisfy your need for different holding options.

[@SpencerVincent]

Had the same Trouble with a 7D and a heavy Sigma lens... Learned we had to change the motor strength to high and the "nodding" stopped. Maybe this is the problem?

[@chadwin]

I use both the Glidecam HD 2000 and Zhiyun crane. Different tools for different jobs, but I find myself gravitating towards the gimbal almost every time because it's so much lighter and easier to keep balanced.

[@PeterDiBussolo]

did you calibrate it with the 1dx. I had the same problem with the ronin m until i calibrated it with the app.

[@mattih]

I didn’t have time it probably woulda helped by clearly it was pushing limits

[@NathanVMountain]

How do you figure out how to focus properly when tracking a subject with a Glidecam??

[@coletidwell7120]

Nathan VARIO Mountain auto focus

[@yellowrosefarm1241]

Are you going to get any mugs with the TravelFeels sketch on them? Thanks!

[@maxim.horoshilov]

I have Glidecam HD-2000 and Zhiyun Crane 2. I'm not a very experienced user of Glidecam, but after all the times I used it, I can say that's really difficult to balance it, especially with big lenses. You should put extra weight to balance this thing, and it gets too heavy. I also was surprised how it's easy to get smooth shoots with Zhiyun Crane 2. Balancing wasn't difficult part at all too. I like to have an ability to change the apperture, ISO, and shutter speed from a joystick. This gimbal is a really nice tool for run and gun situations like weddings. As you mentioned in one of your previous videos it's quite good in filming low angle shoots. I agree that motions looks more natural with Glidecam, but for most situations I'd choose Zhiyun Crane 2. Thanks for one more good video. :)

[@mattih]

Awesome insights! Thanks so much for sharing 🙌🏻

[@nwjiujitsu]

When you travel do you take gimbal and drone in separate cases or do transfer one or both into your camera bag

[@ntvo1]

Hi what about price and functionality when You compare with another gimbals? I still have problem to use a steadycam :( maybe gimball can be good for me but there is so many of market..

[@cosmegaling335]

do i need to use wide lens like tokina 11-16 on this one on my crop body. because I have sigma 18-35 1.8 already.

[@tomasmandys4197]

Matti, does work focus knob work flawlessly with 6Dm2 or not? Official info says 5Dm3/4 only and I still did not google reliable info about 6Ds.

[@jwf1148]

Did you try the different motor settings? I if you refieing this gimbal you have to adjust the different settings until it fits your camera setup

[@ronalvalerio1195]

Thank you Matti haapoya what should I uses for real estate videos?

[@ondrejjanoska660]

Hi Matti. I considering buying crane 2 but would servo follow focus work with high cameras as 1dx? I want to use it with Fuji xt2 with battery grip. But I am not sure is follow focus can reach the lens. Thank you

[@dougvillalos]

Was the firmware updated to V1.72? I just received mine a few days ago and i updated the firmware due to some issues the Crane 2 was having.

[@mattih]

Not sure! But that might definitely fix things 😊

[@LukeMaximoBell1]

Did you choose the right settings for the 1Dxii?

[@alexandrosmargo552]

Hi Matti, how do you keep your subject always in focus even when you moving closer or further away from the subject? Do you use the Crane 2 follow focus or Canon dual pixel auto track focus ?

[@SimeonKolev]

What about the optional handles for it? It is for two hands...

[@BrianSellers]

Hey Matti - Looks like others have told you about putting the motor setting to "High" and the 1DXII adjustment plate. I'd recommend Voosestore in Sweden to get the 1DXII adjustment plate. It got to me here in the States in under a week, which is faster than most that I've heard of! Hope that helps - the Crane 2 and 1DXII are a great combination!

[@BBWinner48]

So do you get the " step bounce" when walking with the glidecam?

[@RustyZipper]

Matti- you can buy all sorts of accessories: shoulder plates, bicycle handles, secondary handle, mic brackets, light brackets, you can film upside down / inverted so the camera is literally on the ground. Don’t let this little Gimbal fool you it is 💯 quality

[@alfredsammut5609]

Hi Matti, can you please suggest a gimbal for my JVC GY-HM170 4K Camcoder as I have been searching for the past 2 years as the camera is bulky and heavy 4lbs

[@TomaszTomczuk]

Have you updated firmware? This is the reason why it was nodding

[@BLThackrey]

Matti Did you set up the motor strength . shipped they come at the lowest setting . also I can balance bigger cameras on my v2 .. it is all in the balancing .

[@CANNOTDIEFILMS]

Hey mate! I’m curious where you got that long sleeved shirt you’re wearing at 0:07 ? Thanks man!

[@jessicaohearn735]

Matti, how do you like this one versus the crane 1?

[@MohnishD]

Your gimbal's motor settings are on strong??

[@cfoscoop]

I may have misses this in the past, but what kind of audio recorder would you recommend? I'm shooting a wedding soon and I would like an option other than just a hotshoe mic to record things more at the source

[@sazinatako8300]

Can Zhiyun rotate for 90 degree to get vertical video?

[@brodybourne]

Hi Matti. Do you think your Ronin S will replace your Glidecam?

[@79Pavlito]

Just quick question can you use crane 2 with go pro hero 8 ?

[@JoeySimon]

Would you recommend using a canon 80d with this gimbal?

[@barneyelo]

Never had any Problems with my Moza Air love this Gimbal and never want to miss it in my workflow

[@mattih]

Yea it’s awesome!

[@paolodetailing]

Hi have y try zyium crane 2 with Canon c300 mk 2 without monitor? It’s 2.6 kg

[@arthurgao3261]

Do you use auto focus or manual focus while using the gimbal?

[@ravel603]

Hi dude!! I just get my new zhiyun crane 2, but.. I would like to upgrade the firmware.. but.. no way.. it doesn't works :/ have you ever done it?

[@Samrajphotograper]

hey matti i see some glowing effect in footage 7:25 do you use any glowing filters or that effect came through grade

[@triller269]

Hi great vid im a noob to this i have nikon d3200 will the crane 2 work with this?

[@yusufkavukcu6605]

Hi, how is your Crane 2 settings for smoothness ?

[@Primetiime32]

Hey man. I have a Zane Crane 2 and I also use a 6D Mark II on it. How do you feel about uploading 4k through Adobe using 6DMII footage? Love your channel and your content.

[@gregorydean4299]

Did you make sure you had the crane set to the 'strong' setting, which would be needed with the weight of your camera.

[@QCVM]

What camera did you shoot your review video and intro video on ?

[@rodrrico]

Anyone found they get a little wobble when walking with a 6Dmk2 mounted? Any thoughts on how to improve this?

[@InstinctVisuals]

did u try the high motor setting?

[@kristianruvino]

Can anybody please help me out? I just bought the Pilot-fly h2-45 on sale and got it for almost half its price. I love it, it’s smooth but I find it a bit heavy and big to carry around. I want to return it and buy the Zhiyun Crane v2 cause I’ve read that it’s smaller and lighter. I want a portable and smooth gimbal. Got the Sony A6300 + sigma 30mm lens so it’s not so heavy but planning on buying a a7iii in the future. What should I do? I really appreciate any tip. Thanks!

[@jonyclintonxD]

So you didn't tune it?? Really? Just a few steps and done, you have a stabilized 1dx

[@michaelfrymus]

Did you use a gimbal to get shots of the gimbal?

[@353Studios]

Would this work with a Canon XA30 ??

[@ExploringAlternatives]

Great review, you make a lot of good points. The glide cam does seem a bit harder to use but more dependable. Thanks :)

[@mattih]

Yep gotta learn it first and then it’s awesome

[@Gearlovers]

Hi Matti! Didn't you get the dual handle?

[@redfocus5789]

Waiting on the DJI Ronin S, your thoughts Matti?

[@randallburgess6393]

so what can you do with the glide cam that you can't with the motorized gimbal

[@JohnGrogans]

Great review video Matti. 👍🏼 Do you think a glidecam would be the best gimbal overall for most cameras for stable footage?

[@thogan]

Have you tried the letus helix jr gimbal?

[@pentzzzify]

Can you shoot low ground shots with your glidecam ? How ?

[@lastfrontier]

I'm curious if you plan on trying the DJI Ronin S when it comes out later this year. Same form factor, but handles more weight and might actually work for your 1DX. They also promise more accessories for the Ronin S like dual handles and follow focus.

[@MIRAJADESIGN]

I hope you will spend more time with it and give us an update video if you get the 1DX balanced correctly.

Hi Matti! I was convinced to purchase Crane 2 but yesterday I watched Casey's Ronin S review and now I dont know which one to buy. I have a GH5. Which will you go for, Crane 2 or Ronin S? Many thanks!

[@michaelruebusch2275]

What did you use to shoot the video of yourself working the gimbal, that footage looks great and it always stays in focus even when pushing in on the subject. I would love to know your gear and technique to nailing the focus all the time.

[@soulspa19]

Sir Which camera did u use to shot this video ??

[@miguelitosoccervlogs6884]

Great video! How do you think of using this product for vlogging? I've been thinking not really but have wanted to test one out so bad for myself

[@mattih]

For me it’s too much of a hassle. Takes too long to setup and use. But that’s just me

[@petteri81]

I think it's easy to use but it is heavy. I mean if you want to vlog only using one hand. If you keep your speaks short it's not a problem😂(I have Canon 80D + crane 2)

[@miguelitosoccervlogs6884]

Petteri Vähäkangas thanks, yeah I just have the a6500

[@petteri81]

Miguelito Saenz Vlogs Check Zhiyun Crane Plus. It's little smaller but still strong.

[@Clickumentary]

I haven't watched yet.. But could this have something to do with using a massive 1D mk 2 as a selfie cam?

[@chastv7755]

Does anyone know if this would be a decent gimbal for a beginner filmmaker?

[@danielm2808]

Did u change the setting to high for the motor? If not it won’t balance. I have to set it for high for the GH5, Speedbooster & Sigma 18-35mm. Also u need the 2 handle grip. I got one recently and it makes a massive difference. It’s much easier to carry and turn the camera.

[@maelvsnotsowild9300]

Hey Matti! Congrats for changing name and thanks for the video!! Do you know if this gimbal can be used in portrait mode? I'd like to use it for IG stories but I don't know if it works...

[@ScapeUwa]

Did you balance the unit with the screen flipped out? If not that's probably why you're getting that wobbling on the tilt axis

[@malaydas3382]

is that gimble work with canon m50 mirorless camera

[@SammyBFilms]

So how does the focus wheel connect to the camera??

[@cicadahero]

I have the same issue with twisting the handle to get a nice rotating shot. It's really hard to master that and I definitely do wish there was a better way to go about it. I hope to see companies improve the ergonomics of their gimbals soon

[@johndonovan3423]

ThroughAlyssasEyes - hey TAE, have u tried turning it up side down? You’ll have a few more logistical issues with getting the shot itself, but the gimbal will function easier when it’s inverted as will your hands on the gimbal. Good luck.

[@mattih]

Yea I think it’s possible to do them but should be way easier

[@madefromscratchfilmz6943]

hey y'all I'm shooting music videos with a canon t6i to get the best quality out of this camera until i can afford a new 1 what frame should i shoot in? give me answer plz?

[@bodybymuso147]

Why does my camera slide and doesn’t lock in place when I mount it on the crane 2.

[@chrissante220]

Hello, what is the name of the music that you have used in the introduction? It was LIT !

[@miaroscfala]

Glad I wasn't alone in these thoughts. And thanks for hitting the nail on why I didn't take to it - it's the form factor of that single pole operation. Not enough control over the shot.

[@MicaelBolognini]

Have you tried the Moza Air ?

[@andreasbuecker]

Matti, like your videos, but the Crane 2 is absolutely awesome! Use it also with the dual handle and 7" field monitor; it´s just creazy fun with amazing results!

[@HoundDogMech]

What might You suggest for a steady Gumbel that holds a real camera (Video) not a DSLR. that is able to keep the camera steady from 90 degrees straight down to 90 degrees straight up for videoing Model airplanes. OH also have to be able to see the screen in order the keep the model planes framed correctly.

[@travonja]

Does any body else have a problem when getting in to inverted mode. When I try to go in to invert mode with cable connected to crane 2 and my camera canon 80d it gets stuck. So I have to unplug my cable and then reconnect it after doing it. Any solutions? Thank you

[@amdesigns9607]

There's dual handles for the Crane 2, I like using it.

[@deanshaw4534]

Very true and you still can’t beat the simplicity of a glide cam type set up.... as long as it’s not too windy!!

[@pointlesswanderer]

Try Zhiyun Crane Plus or on the mobile app for the crane you have to change it for heavy cameras to stop the jiggle

[@andrzejbwwa]

Can you get your hands on Tilta G2X? It seems it can support C200, so it should hold 1dx2 as well. It also has an option of adding an extra handle via rosette so the way you can hold it is improved comparing to other pistol grip gimbals.

[@KaelanRios]

By any chance will you be reviewing the Fuji X-H1?

[@bmkq2007]

I agree with you and mine is shaking horizontally. the smell ducks too due to cheap material used in manufacturing

[@morgenmonroe9673]

they make a longer plate for the 1DX on the crane 2 now!

[@JaredHoyman]

Had the same issue, but all you have to do is go into the settings and increase the strength and resistance and it will work just fine.

[@raxorbin]

Tried changing the motor setting to strong on the app ?...

[@MinoDebnar]

Matti - I went to Zhiyun Assistant app to my phone and connect to the gymbal. If you scroll to the bottom of the Stabilizer Settings menu, you can choose between three motor strengths: weak, medium and strong. I sent strong and no more jitter problem :).

[@tombuck]

For the case smell: if you leave it open for a day or two, the smell will go away. I had the same issue with my drone case, but after two days the smell disappeared and never came back (I was able to take the foam out of the hard case to really let it air out since it’s the foam that smells).

[@PcGuru428]

Will this work with my canon t6i?

[@1Rishikes]

Why don't you try the dji ronin 2 it has a circular all around handle