My Boss Isn't Happy About My Side Hustle

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[@MELINDADHERBERT]

Alot of people TALK TOO DAMN MUCH at work!!! Go to work, be friendly, make small talk BUT DON'T DISCUSS YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS.

[@donaldjohnson-ow3kq]

They are frenemies

[@mitchella5954]

Yeah, keep your business to yourself!

[@JustinCase780]

Is your favorite hockey team The Caps?

[@Overlord277]

People think I'm weird for following Financial Peace so I tell them I'm on baby step 4, 5, 6. Apparently not having consumer debt makes people uneasy BUT I'm laughed at for bringing lunch to work, not going out etc.

[@spinecollector9931]

Yep, work friends never turn out to be your real friends. Always keep it professional

[@stevegolacks8731]

You can tell as giggly she is, that she talks about all this stuff with her coworkers and she isnt quiet about it.

[@myfindependencejourney]

Why on earth telling your boss about your side hustle? Just do your stuff and avoid work gossip.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

If there is conflict of interest, this is a good reason for your boss to know.

[@JlRyer]

Not really micromanaging bosses will trip out. It's cool to do something off the clock but once they feel it affects productivity your getting wrote up. Never handle Business this way. People are fickle creatures.

[@donaldjohnson-ow3kq]

Never tell anybody at work about side jobs or side businesses. These aren't your friends. I can tell from the first 30 seconds that she talks way too much. If anyone asks what you are doing, tell them it's personal and change the topic.

[@TheSoulCrisis]

Yeah you can't go around just putting out information that makes you vulnerable, never know when a person with a crappy life who happens to be toxic will use it against you.

[@edb484]

Exactly I know she’s telling everybody her business

[@kathryneprickett2083]

Shes a female. Thst heffa wakes up.talking. smh.

[@nicholasselke5214]

At work I take it further. I don’t even tell my coworkers my real name

[@Ultrajamz]

Sadly people always don’t like when others are getting ahead.

[@UsernameUnkwn21]

Her attitude is immature...they drew attention to themselves

[@BaconMountainMan]

100%

[@nerdobject5351]

You sound a lot like those dock workers smoking cigs….

[@windmonkey95]

You can tell she absolutely loves all the petty drama around the situation, the only part that upsets her is that she’s the one at risk of losing money here.

[@jaygold4467]

She sounds like a 12 year old.

[@keysncoffee7733]

Oh gosh I read this comment as she’s wrapping up her first sentence and I already can’t even 😂

[@RPisa2416]

Had a coworker who got fired over his side hustle because our boss got jealous over the profit he was bringing in. Keep your business to yourself guys 😂

[@Yogastrong908]

In my industry they’ll find out even if you keep your mouth shut.

[@God__Emperor_]

That's not why he got fired, that's just what he told you. He got fired for working on his side job while on the clock.

[@frankcb11]

@@God__Emperor_you dk this lol

[@RPisa2416]

@@frankcb11 he’s the god emperor of course he knows everything! Including my situation that I lived

[@frankcb11]

@@RPisa2416haha your response made me chuckle a bit. I like your humor here! Even dealing with ridiculous internet people

[@rsivkova]

Very childish caller. Do your thing and stop explaining yourself to anyone and everyone

[@johnsradios484]

Unless they are working their side hustle while at work! Nothing wrong with this, but yea don’t tell anyone what you are doing after work!

[@JKNat9004]

I worked at a place that suffered in business after an employee left to work for a competitor and eventually stole customers from the first company. This lady doing medical encoding as a side hustle alongside her full time job as a medical encoder has the potential to obtain too much information.

[@donaldjohnson-ow3kq]

Don't tell the positive people at work, either, about your side gigs. They will probably gossip to somebody who doesn't like you, and then that person goes to the boss and tells on you.

[@cur244]

For some bizarre reason since social media became a thing people hate privacy. People share every tiny detail of their lives.

[@candy2325]

Highly agree. Being discreet is a lost art nowadays. I got rid of Instagram and Facebook and I love it now lol

[@JustinCase780]

100% Why did she share that she is smashing with her boss. Crazy.

[@cur244]

@@candy2325 Agreed social media is a massive waste of time unless you're selling something.

[@UncleDavesKitchen]

Why is she giggling? She sounds so immature. If she's being watched at work maybe that's it. Definitely for her husband if he's distracted from his job by a side hustle then maybe he will soon be doing the hustle full time. I worked two jobs for 20 years and did exactly what they say, keep my mouth shut and be the employee the job wants to keep

[@brookiegremlin6660]

I wonder if the two of them are exhausted, low-energy, schlep into work fifteen minutes late saying "I'm sorry there was traffic," wear wrinkled clothes, etc. These don't sound like prize employees.

[@USMC6976]

She's giggling because she is STRESSED OUT. She's very nervous talking to Ken and her giggling releases stress.

[@doubles1545]

Some people laugh when they’re nervous.

[@keysncoffee7733]

I know it’s the stress but sounds like she’s at a comedy show 😂

[@pepperonish]

Nervous to be on the show

[@TheFlyingZulu]

1:15 As long as your side hustle doesn't interfere with the duties of your main job, the boss at your main job doesn't need to know about it.

[@krobdawg]

This is why any job I'm at, the people know little to nothing about me It's best to just keep some things to yourself or at least away from coworkers

[@MikeyPaper]

Terrible way to live life

[@kirapoodle]

@@MikeyPaper Not at all, you can make small talk and share some personal things but you need to be careful on what things you share with your coworkers and your boss. These people aren't your friends and many things can go against you.

[@edb484]

Exactly, I don’t add any coworkers on social media, etc. they don’t even know if I’m married, have kids or whatever and only my manager had my number. Coworkers aren’t your friends. I’m so glad I work from home and don’t have to deal with most of that nonsense. Get yo money and mind yo business

[@kirapoodle]

@@edb484 That's another great benefit of working from home, you don't need to deal with the office gossip and shenanigans. Nothing like working from home and focusing on the actual work. I am also willing to bet that issues like sexual harassment, work toxicity and conflicts between peers are reduced when people work remotely.

[@nicholasselke5214]

@MikeyPaper wrong. It’s always best to keep your work and personal lives separate. I don’t share anything personal with any of my coworkers at either of my jobs. They don’t even know my real name. And when I’m off work, I don’t talk about or even think about work. There is to be zero crossover between the two

[@gdolly166]

Ken is right. Keep away from nasty coworkers.Negative energy always looking for drama.

[@anthonydavis6027]

Always best not saying anything to anyone especially to your coworkers. Your coworkers are not your friends.

[@user-tl7mj2bm4m]

I let my co-workers talk....I just listen...and volunteer NOTHING.

[@VargasAudio93]

😂Ken is real for saying to shut up

[@dudeorduuude5211]

I am glad he addressed the giggling. I am questioning if she has professional boundaries... maybe they are working the other job during work hours or distracted.

[@davinasquirrel7672]

Regardless of any other job on the side, she does not sound like she can focus on anything. So annoying.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

​@@davinasquirrel7672yes, either she giggles when nervous, so her bosses are giving her the sideeye as she is probably giggling around them. Or, she is high and giggling because of that.

[@davinasquirrel7672]

@@dudeorduuude5211 whatever the reason, she sounds very immature.

[@joeriveracomedy]

Cartoon voiceover ain't hiring?

[@kathryneprickett2083]

LMAO

[@CrateCrasher]

fr man, her voice grates on me

[@wufflerdance9481]

AI got it covered

[@ValerieMajor]

Best comment on thread

[@littlesongbird1]

I agree. I am a teacher and only a couple of people at my school know I also tutor after school/weekends. Most people tend to look down their nose at people working two jobs (considering how much people complain about low pay for teachers, you would think more of them would understand). What I do after work is my business.

[@curtisaguinaga7021]

What do you think that is? I am curious as to why people are like that.

[@littlesongbird1]

@@curtisaguinaga7021 No clue. With employers, I think because they feel like it means you are not 100% committed or it's a guilt thing because they are not paying you enough (note: I never had that mentality, for the most part I felt I was paid a fair wage it was just the cost of living was bad). It could also be like a social status thing like, "oh you need more money?".

[@user-tl7mj2bm4m]

First rule of work...don't talk a lot about your personal life or WHAT you do outside of work. Keep that information to YOURSELF.....always. I tell people VERY little about what I do outside of work.

[@nomadicsporadic5394]

Her immature attitude combined with her shrilly voice annoys me

[@beckyshell4649]

Yeah I thought she was trying to keep from bursting out in tears at first. I didn’t hear one thing in the call that was funny, I don’t know why she was so giggly.

[@CarlaQuattlebaum]

@@beckyshell4649 I thought she sounded upset, too. I guess it's just her normal voice.

[@lindsayclark4009]

Be kind

[@karadanvers6136]

If you have 2 full time jobs there is nothing wrong with that either. I don’t have the energy for that but if someone else does, let them do it. Maybe one day they won’t be able to support themselves due to illness or something. So let them use all they have to make what money they can while they have the energy to do it.

[@High5748]

I had a co-worker who did 2 full time jobs and the guy just randomly flipped out one day and walked out. We were all like da hell just happened? It sounds good on paper but it's so soul sucking. To each their own I suppose.

[@TheSoulCrisis]

@@High5748 He was definitely able to walk out because of that second job though.

[@TheSoulCrisis]

I agree, my uncle worked two full-time jobs in warehousing operations a looong time ago. He worked a first shift job and a night shift job.....he was so damn tired but he sacrificed to do it and earned it all the way sleeping in his car even due to exhaustion and lack of time. I knew a manager at the retail chain I used to work at, she was doing the same thing so her three kids could attend college and graduate debt free. For time based positions Ken is right, it would be ethically wrong to do both jobs IF they require you onsite at set hours. For performance and task based roles it's not the case, you get paid and raises based on your output and quality of work. As long as you meet expectations, attend your meetings, etc. no one gives a damn in the business, with the exception of not being able to work multiple government or defense contractor roles due to security and confidential information restrictions.

[@Wehra96]

Do US contracts not say that having any secondary jobs, paid or unpaid is not allowed without written permission by the employer? because that is standard here. Just curious. Not like the consequences of doing it is that bad but still.

[@analyticalchick3064]

@@Wehra96 No. Where do you live? Jobs here don't pay enough to be that picky with their employers.

[@treasurethetime2463]

Truthfully, this generation just talks too much. Too much. Why would either boss know? Because you ran your mouth.

[@christinebutler7630]

Or you were dumb enough to mention it on social media. Anything you put out there on social media is going to get to your boss.

[@katiejon17]

There’s nothing wrong with working 2 full time jobs. My grandfather did it for 20 years to keep his family alive.

[@liammateo287]

This seems like the worst period. Even the market are now very unpredictable. Started investing recently when the market prices were a bit high,today I am more than 60% down!

[@Ashermicheal6341]

Don’t be confuse buying the dip in a bear market, with guaranteed future returns. Just because that company is down 60%+ from ATH does NOT make it a sound long-term investment. Make sure you’re investing in great companies. kudos to Celia dullpher

[@Lucas75332]

I agree just reached my goal of $500k monthly trade earnings. Setting realistic goals is an essential part of trading.

[@liammateo287]

How can someone know a professional broker when legit once are hard to find this days

[@Ashermicheal6341]

She's recognized as 'Mrs Celia dullpher . One of the finest portfolio managers in the field. She's widely recognized; you should take a look at her work.

[@alexandraesther984]

I agree. Based on personal experience working with an investment advisor, I currently have $1m in a well diversified portfolio, that has experienced exponential growth. It is not about having money to invest in stocks,but also you need to be knowledgeable, persistent, and have strong hands to back it up.

[@fernnoli]

Cool, I had two full-time jobs all of last year, and they also called it moon-lighting. Guess who I told? No one. Guess who found out in either job? No one. Guess who made two full-time software engineer salaries? Me. It sucked, but it was worth it. Just do it and don't tell anyone until after (obviously don't tell either job though), or just don't do it. It's not that hard.

[@basedblueboy8770]

Exactly I'm doing this now. Data science. I can finally get a leg up in life.

[@basedblueboy8770]

NEVER tell ANYONE about it. Get used to telling stories about all the "fun" normie stuff you do on the weekends etc.

[@kimberlymartin459]

​@@basedblueboy8770 I wouldn't even tell them that. I would say, "My weekend was cleaning the house, laundry and resting up for the work week".... repeat that every Monday morning to them. You will notice they will stop asking....

[@basedblueboy8770]

@@kimberlymartin459 😂 love it

[@nicholasselke5214]

@basedblueboy8770 I tell people that I keep work at work and my personal life at home. When I’m working, I’d rather focus on the job at hand

[@Cammimullens]

What are the best strategies to protect my portfolio? I've heard that a downturn will devastate the financial market, so I'm concerned about my $200k stock portfolio.

[@marlisamirabal]

There are strategies that could be put in place for solid gains regardless of economy situation, but such execution is usually carried out by an investment specialist

[@TitaAnderson]

I've been in touch with a financial analyst ever since I started investing. Knowing today's culture The challenge is knowing when to purchase or sell when investing in trending stocks, which is pretty simple. On my portfolio, which has grown over $900k in a little over a year, my adviser chooses entry and exit orders

[@softy-bf5eg]

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[@TitaAnderson]

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[@softy-bf5eg]

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[@ozarked2363]

I have a side hustle. If my boss gave me grief about it I’d tell him no problem I’ll give it up. All you have to do is raise my pay to cover my lost income.

[@AGM-ts5bb]

Go to your car for calls. And yes, be discreet.

[@thankfulblessed8496]

Right! Just zip it!

[@robertcohen1888]

I just wanna make two points, number one your employer doesn’t like when you have another job they view it as the your other job is taking your time away from them and they should be enough and secondly, I worked IT. I never had enough time for a second job, I was working rotating shifts days and nights and weekends, but that’s a whole other story. The real reality is your primary employer wants you to think of them as your spouse and working a second job is cheating on them. They don’t want to think that maybe they’re just not paying enough. Just don’t tell them anything.

[@genxx2724]

I worked with a courtroom clerk who doing mortgages on the side. He was often away from his desk, on the phone about mortgages. That means he wasn’t processing the paperwork people were waiting for promptly, and wasn’t attending to the attorneys. These are the things he was supposed to be doing when the judge wasn’t on the bench. This caused the attorneys delay in getting to the other courts where they had cases.He was single-handedly slowing down the whole operation.

[@kristaw2686]

Ma'am, please stop giggling in between every sentence. We're not 14 any more. I get the impression that you giggle because you're nervous about how the other person will respond, but be a woman and own your answers and responses. You have a voice to be heard and giggling undermines you. You're smarter than you come across.

[@carojames6776]

At. Least she's not crying in her soup

[@nomadicsporadic5394]

Her shrilly voice makes my ears bleed

[@JustinCase780]

Ken and George went to Chick-fil-A after this call.

[@BunkMasterFlex77]

💯

[@TheSoulCrisis]

Went there the other day lol.

[@JustinCase780]

@@TheSoulCrisis Power of your suggestion...now I want one. 😅😋

[@lindsayclark4009]

😂

[@Seanporter14]

Losing the full value of my truck's worth as a plaintiff v. an employee (defendant) affected my business in 2022. Getting involved in a scheme that got me $125,000 monthly was my only saving grace. It saved my business

[@HelenaNguyen77]

Wow this is huge, it’s been a struggle lately, everything seem to be falling apart. Really need a positive turnaround

[@HelenaNguyen77]

But then, what do you do? How do you come about that in that period?

[@Seanporter14]

I totally understand how you feel, everyone needs a positive turn around in whatever they do

[@Seanporter14]

@@HelenaNguyen77God did honestly and big thanks to Renee Marie Harrison

[@Seanporter14]

She’s a licensed broker here in the states 🇺🇸

[@tubenachos]

She can probably talk non-stop for hours holy 💩

[@RiverWoods111]

I have worked in Healthcare, and they have strict rules against you working for another company that is in the same field.

[@JKNat9004]

I figured that one out just thinking about it . Working for any financial company is the same way.

[@mblackman6627]

AGREE People talk TOO TOO MUCH about every aspect of their lives. SHUT UP

[@Orangesunderthemoon]

Sometimes it’s good to be nonchalant. Being chalant isn’t always best.

[@MikeyPaper]

Chalanterstein

[@NovelNovelist]

Great advice. A lot of people put way too much of their personal business out there when really, if you just keep your mouth shut you can do what you want without any comments from the peanut gallery.

[@taurinenrgy]

I have made the mistake of telling others about my side jobs. My coworker thought that it was unfair to the company that I didn’t rest on the weekends. The irony was that he was obese and the slowest one in the crew. Others just don’t want you to get ahead of them, is very sad.

[@djpuplex]

Noisy female coworkers and working in healthcare go hand and hand.

[@analyticalchick3064]

I work in a daycare. I can't with these women lately

[@mxerb5912]

100% these people are working their “side” jobs on company time

[@GrannyDryden]

It’s a shame but I don’t blame her. I don’t see another way of getting ahead, especially in this financial climate we live in.

[@mxerb5912]

@@GrannyDrydenbullcrap stealing from your company is never the answer.

[@rnman99]

If it's on his unpaid lunch break, it's none of the company's business.

[@mxerb5912]

@@rnman99 you believe that story? 😂

[@JustinCase780]

​@@mxerb5912Go back to being hall monitor.

[@davidchester429]

Whatever you do in your own time is your own business. Literally in this case. If you're not performing thats a different story but otherwise who are they to tell you what to do in your own time?

[@tate6809]

Dave: "you need to be working 26hrs a day at 4 jobs to get out of your financial mess" Ken: "working two full time jobs is not ok!" Caller needs to look into her employment contract to see what it says about working other jobs, and keep her mouth shut. in Many states an employer can fire you for no reason at all, so before you get into an "I can do what I want" p1ssing match, just keep in mind that they can fire you if they want. Gotta strike a balance, preferably by never letting the issue arise in the first place, by not letting the jobs interfere with each other and keeping your mouth shut about it!

[@JKNat9004]

There might be an ethical issue with her doing medical encoding for two different companies. If you do something full-time, your part-time/side hustle should either be very different or if not facilities that collaborate as opposed to compete.

[@digitatissue8502]

I agree with the other people commenting. You cannot share this type of information at work. It threatens their current jobs because they don’t appear 100% dedicated at work. Also, doing other work on company property, like the cafeteria, is not a good idea.

[@kaythegardener]

Having 2 jobs for the wife in the same industry might lead to conflicts of interest or bleeding through company barriers or poaching possible clients of the main company!!

[@theburnetts]

What cracks me up is that I'm sure Dave Ramsey would fire someone immediately if he found out they were working a side hustle at his company. Dave seems like someone that demands complete and unquestioned loyalty to the Ramsey organization.

[@God__Emperor_]

I think that guy theburnetts looks shady af. Why, I just think so.

[@beck943]

Can't argue based on what you *think* would happen. I can't say if you're right, but Dave probably pays well to start with.

[@user-tl7mj2bm4m]

I agree with your analysis. I get the same feeling.....

[@Soljarag5]

100%. Dave would freak the F out

[@jamesni4498]

He would fire you for owning a credit card

[@jacobschwartz6379]

I work in a hospital and soooo many of my coworkers work seconds jobs also in healthcare and literally no one cares. they show up and do their jobs and go home or to their second job and no one has ever given it a second look

[@tracyaf6084]

I’m orienting at my side gig as I’m watching this. It’s no one’s business what you do on your own time.

[@lav7161]

Yeah, right. You really think he's making calls ONLY on his lunch hour? Come on now. He's using up company time and it's not sustainable for him to be great at his first job. If he can get away with them whatever but HE IS VIOLATING company policy by being a realtor.

[@00177454419]

Lighten up. Have you ever worked in IT ? There is a lot of dead time involved and there are other times when you're working your butt off. The number of workers doin g personal web surfing, online shopping or even an online hustle is about 100 percent. Certainly he shouldn't be making non work related calls under his boss's nose, but there is no reason to get on a high horse and say he's stealing from his employer.

[@JustinCase780]

Hall Monitor. Please calm down.

[@FLWVideosYT]

My boss did not find out that I had a KZbin channel (making more $ than I did at that company working full time) until my last day of work hahaha. I had been on the team for several years and never mentioned it.

[@barryblack8817]

I worked at a warehouse when i was younger. They fired one of the mamagers because he had a side hustle producing small music concerts Never was late or had to leave early or anything. They felt he was fully committed to the warehouse.

[@CroisMoi]

This is an example of how getting fired is a blessing. He was better off away from those people.

[@tvelicia]

At my place of work, every year we are required to complete a dual employment form.

[@inaces1]

When the topic was remote work having 2 jobs, Ken was like you need to tell the boss, funny now it's be quiet.

[@nicholasselke5214]

It’s important to inform your boss under two circumstances: if it will affect your availability (usually telling a part time job you have to be out at a certain time so you can go to your full time job), or if it’s a potential conflict of interest. If there’s no conflict in any way, shape or form, then your boss doesn’t need to know

[@JKNat9004]

Ken's clueless on this one. Her hubby just needs to go make calls from his car on lunch, but she might lose two jobs doing medical encoding for 2 different places.

[@elcheekoful]

In my old factory job. My plant manager literally said in a meeting. " I wished people didn't have so much opportunity" because people was quitting and going to other jobs. He claimed that if people stayed there. We could make the company better.. they'd literally fire people, then the employees would go get a better job. Wed tell the plant manager about so so doing great at there new job, making more money, he said " i dont want to hear about that' during civid these companions showed there true colors.

[@agustino42491]

some jobs, especially in healthcare, have contracts where you cannot work outside your job.. this is more typical for doctors etc ... double check what's in your contract

[@todd2456]

Why is everything funny, Lyra? Good lord.

[@radolfkalis4041]

You need to keep your boss out of your private lives. They dont need to know anything really about you outside of your shift. When I was 20, I opened at McD, then immediately went to Jack for another shift. McD manager found out, said it violated company policy, gave me 2 weeks to decide which job I wanted. I was not in debt, I just had no life, money was nice. I went with Jack.

[@davinasquirrel7672]

That is a direct competitor thing, so understandable, even if that was an overkill response. I cannot imagine there are state secrets regarding fries!

[@radolfkalis4041]

@@davinasquirrel7672 state fry secrets, lololol. Yeah, I agree with you. She did say her second job is the same as her primary job.

[@davinasquirrel7672]

@@radolfkalis4041 Yes she did. At that level of job, there may well be more proprietary information that either company may be concerned about.

[@ASVNature]

I don't understand, Dave Ramsey says go Gazelle Intense on debt, but it's bad to work 2 full-time jobs? I understand this comment if the 2 jobs are at the same time, but if they are separate hours and not conflicting with each other, I don't see the problem.

[@marcvac]

I worked in healthcare for a long time. The only time they had a problem was if you were working for a direct competitor

[@anilpargi8019]

I want to say thank you to the guy in the comments who recommended Eledator to me. You've been very helpful. Thank you!

[@EppingForest304]

What’s with the giggling… I think it’s a sign of nervousness or immaturity. I was waiting for Ken to address that!

[@SummaGirl1347]

It should be noted that civil service jobs require that you disclose any other paid work as you are classified as a Disaster Service Worker and your jurisdiction has to be made aware of any conflicts of interest or side jobs that may negatively affect your ability to work during emergencies.

[@pwstroud]

these companies have way to much power over people lives.

[@jakeandsarahhealthnuts3299]

Such a good message Ken

[@ryanperreault6453]

One thing that needs to be discussed - there are definitely company policies in the software industry that do not allow for secondary positions, regardless of whether its on company time or not. As long as they aren't violating that, they just need to be quiet.

[@jimt6151]

A lot of "bosses" feel the need for you to be desperately dependent on them and "the job". If you have another income stream, it keeps you from being desperately dependent. People who aren't desperate are not controllable, and lack of control is what drives bosses like these.

[@bradleymaravalli2851]

People who are apart of the Ramsey movement love to share about it. I do the same thing. But definitely do not share with co-workers.

[@mustangthings]

She sounds drunk

[@HoneyHoops-ig9ws]

Could be nerves

[@JustinCase780]

Nope. She's a super cute nerd.

[@Soljarag5]

High

[@random-nz7dy]

There's really only two issues of the side hustle. If it's interfering with your regular job or if you agreed in your contract against a certain type of work and you're doing that. But also she sounds immature and it sounds like to me she's enjoying this drama. Stop making it obvious and drawing attention to yourself. It's easy to go to work and have nobody know what you do outside of work. Making that other people's business is your choice

[@r.rodriguez4991]

What's wrong with working two full time jobs? "Full time" is 35 hours now apparently. Or less possibly.

[@TimothyStuder]

I believe he's talking about overemployment where people are WFH on two jobs at once.

[@om617yota8]

@@TimothyStuder If that's what's going on, I definitely agree that's not OK. I was scratching my head going why is two full time jobs a problem? Been there done that, I was on time and did my work for both, I didn't care if anybody cared, I wasn't asking their opinions. Working two jobs from home and giving both only half the attention they're paying for is a different matter entirely.

[@IntegratedAngela]

I remember my first serving job basically ended when my bosses found out I picked up another job at the local grocery store (I was 15) and they didn’t take well to that. They stopped giving me hours which was so funny given that the low-hours and low-pay were the reason I picked up the second job to begin with! It was a hard lesson to learn so early on!

[@matthewnelson5293]

You guys just found out that bosses are overstepping their roles and acting like the company owns their employees? If you're not 100% committed or appear to be, they don't want you because they can't abuse you and string you along.

[@teekay_1]

This is not a high-tech company where there are legitimate conflicts of interest that you need to identify potential conflicts of interests (e.g. having a large position in a competitor). Medical coding is low-skill job and that works in both directions. It means she can be replaced quickly and it also means that she isn't important enough to have inside information.

[@lordgarth1]

A lot of people say they aren’t taking calls or doing business during work but often times they are.

[@ccssin9088]

Guess what? If you're an exempt employee you're not paid for your actual time, you're paid to complete certain work responsibilities. If you can handle two full time jobs and do them both satisfactorily as an exempt employee then you should go for it if you want! You owe NO loyalty to your employer as most of them consider you expendable and have little to no loyalty to their employees. To say it's immoral or polygamy, is ridiculous. What a boot licking position to take.

[@thesuperdingos]

This!

[@TheSoulCrisis]

He's clearly thinking about physical timecard punching positions where you need to support everything during set hours......but contractors and performance/task based roles don't adhere to those limits for the most part. Sometimes there's not even enough work to keep people busy in those roles, so they should not waste their time "trying to look busy" lol.

[@EsiriE]

Yes I took issue with that immoral comment. If you are able to do both then do so.

[@joshuadilena2020]

Agreed!

[@God__Emperor_]

The things people say to not feel guilty for stealing.

[@privacyplease1556]

No such thing as “stealing company time” if you’re meeting your job expectations. Overemployment isn’t stealing.

[@Kurtdog63]

Some side hustles can demand a lot of time and require immediate answers, so a conflict can constantly stay on the horizon, whether you plan it or not. Real estate is one of those type hustles. Mowing grass, not so much. I have done both.

[@truthseeker6370]

Yeah NO to this advice! I work in healthcare as well. We are allowed to have side jobs, but they must be disclosed in writing. Purpose likely being an employee can't call off, be late etc because they're working their side job. Trust me, I've encountered Many coworkers who have side hustles- then either don't show up for their main job, or are Consistently late. Gotta love when they talk about working their side gig til 2 am, call off, can't be on time, and when they're at work- Don't work. Side gigs are a double edged sword between the responsible people working to better their situation, and those that just don't like the responsibility of working.

[@TicktakSunny-vz4ux]

Thanks for all you. do...made a huge difference in my life in 6 months. Ps Hope papa Dave is watching clips of the tartan army at the Euros given his Scottish heritage..lol. Scotland at its best....and people at their best..whoever wins. Do we really need politicians when you see such lovely community spirit..just asking....

[@user-vh6bo6lt8b]

Is is legal in most states to prevent and/or fire an employee for "moonlighting" or working a second job. While it's not illegal itself just like being rude to customers isn't illegal, it's certainly a fireable offense if the company wants it to be. Keep your mouth shut and never work on the clock for another job because that can in fact open you up to lawsuits for fraud. Keep them separate, work in an unrelated area, don't let one affect the other (like make you too tired to work well), and shut your mouth.

[@TopShot501st]

Non competes are now void so I doubt it.

[@user-vh6bo6lt8b]

@@TopShot501st yeah and you should do a little more reading because that's a completely different thing. That refers to formerly legal contract that barred employees from leaving a company to go work for the competition. A company like OpenAI would use it to prevent an engineer from leaving the company and going to work for Apple later on. Once you leave a company you can work for whoever you want including the competition. However, while you're employed they have every legal right to fire you for that.

[@PriorityFlight]

Right out of Office Space. “Corporate Accounts Nina speaking…just a moment!”

[@DudeDude491]

Ken is thinking about starting a Boy Band the way he is dressed today..

[@JustinCase780]

He was singing out loud while cranking up Duran Duran and A Flock of Seagulls on his way in that morning.

[@DudeDude491]

@@JustinCase780 Hahaha

[@JustinCase780]

@@DudeDude491 Also, he definitely had that full throttle energy from his two breakfast burritos he scarfed down from the drive thru.

[@DudeDude491]

@@JustinCase780 Yeah you are right…Ken seems to be in a good mood today which means he paid for his Lunch with Dave’s MasterCard Credit Card haha

[@janhatcher6991]

go out to your car and make those real estate calls not in the lunchroom not good

[@tduck828]

I have worked high level jobs that they wanted to know about 2nd jobs. If you didn't tell them and get approval it was a fire able offense. We got paid well so nobody really needed a second job to survive.

[@chemquests]

Our company requires disclosure to verify there’s no conflict of interest. We don’t stop anyone from doing something unrelated to our business but you can’t side hustle with our competitors.

[@1motomanic]

Just live within in your means and you won't have to work yourself into a early grave, my two cents.

[@Ketchup584]

I garuntee that he's taking real estate calls on his lunch break and also not in his lunch break... lol..

[@dudeorduuude5211]

I was wondering the same. She sounds immature, so maybe her and her husband don't have proper professionalism, and not overlapping the jobs.

[@JustinCase780]

Who cares? And, try spelling. 😅

[@dr.aasiyahghazi9168]

She keeps laughing and this is really annoying. Seriously, don't tell your coworkers what you're doing on the side. She doesn't seem so serious about her situation.

[@kayn2756]

Reminds me of the day my current boss found out I still work at my old job part time while I've been with her a year. She panicked.

[@GinaLoriDuncan]

Why are you talking about this at work? Why? Why?

[@MrsGarner49]

A fool tell all she/ he know. Biblical

[@liorap5636]

In cleveland, there are 3 hospital systems that are extremely competitive…. Cleveland Clinic University Health and Metrohealth

[@steelcastle5616]

Is this really an issue adults have to call in for advice? The maturity and basic common sense of many callers is just amazing. This call should have been screened out and answered off-line.

[@martinguldner3990]

My company of 3 years (purchased old company I been with since December 2016 with the same manager) requires permission to work a second job. I did not really need the extra money but I wanted to use my life experience living with Autism. To work a 6 hour a week job with a local neurodivergent special needs high school; 2024-2025 school year starts second week August 2024. My old company was owned by a friend I would not need approval. Following company policy and 7 plus years of my manager know I get my work done ( since March 2020 been 100% remote ). I got company approval to work the second job today.

[@DMS1010]

If the moonlighting is medical it makes sense they don’t want moonlighting. There are liability concerns (malpractice) and there can be a potential for conflict of interest, even though the caller may think there isn’t one

[@stanleyhape8427]

I've never had a problem doing it and haven't seen anyone else have a problem with it.

[@TORITHEGUMMYBEAR]

I make extra money on the side because I am a teacher so my salary is already limited but I don't talk about what I do. Now some people eventually find out about some of my side hustles but I definitely don't air it out. My admin really don't care but some of my colleagues very much care and will judge relentlessly.

[@privateinfo1711]

Some companies have contracts and policies concerning side hustles. I worked in HR where a woman was fired for working elsewhere on her annual leave. The advice should be talk to the boss and then shut up.

[@skylarcarlson7745]

I have a feeling it’s affecting performance or he’s texting/ calling during work hours . I’ve seen this exact thing before.