My Concerns With CARV Skiing: CARV 2

[@RicketySkiReviews]

Thanks for watching, if you own or are looking to own CARV, let me know what you think!

[@Studio42Brooklyn]

I have owned the version 1 for 3 years, had the ooportunity to use one during a stomp it camp. I actually disagree, I think carv is absolutely awesome, it has helped me soo much... if paired with a real coach once in a while ( or video analysis ) it can really transform your skiing. Carv is the only company that has gathered this amount of data, and they have leveraged evey ounce of it. Elliot, in your case i think it makses sense that you wouldn't enjoy it as much. I think you have to be either a competivite skier, or an intermediate striving for advance level, paired with enjoying analyzing and use that analysis in order to improve.... I do agree that using a phone on the slopes isn't the best...since we are glued to those things...IMO this is the cheapest most reliable way to improve on metrics that are hard to improve without feedback.

[@Studio42Brooklyn]

I do agree on the hardware point. At the begining Carv wans't a subscription service... that was a blow...but still lower that multiple private coaching sessions....

[@sammykosbar5637]

I really like your point of view on everything in all your video's. It's your honest onion and I respect that. I've been looking at CARV for the past 2 years. I held off because of the foot bed and wire. I want to feel everything possible IE feel it in the seat of my pants. I too want too just naturally experience everything; however, I do wish I had someone giving me tips on what they see I could change and how. My wife isn't going to fallow me and give input as she is doing here drills on the green slops the way she wants to. I think for some this could be a nice tool and an easy tool to just turn on or off as needed or desired. I defiantly cannot see myself using then all day long (IE the nagging in my ear all day LOL) but if muted on ear buds in pocket I think it's possible to enjoy the slops all day and still at any time check in on what was recorded or keep sound on and adjust on the fly. When, my wife and are out surfing together we can give pointers on what we see. This dose help because without video recording from the beach we cannot see all the dynamics that are happing. For me this might help improve my technical as I'm buy myself on the slops. Keep doing what you do.

[@basecampjindabyne1691]

I've had Carv almost since the start of the product line and I've seen a lot of changes and improvements over the years. It has genuinely improved my skiing and will be my number one tool for continuing to improve my skiing going forward. It isn't perfect but in terms of a tangible metric for where you are at with your turns, there's nothing better. It's able to pick up the most subtle variations in a turn and display them in a way the human eye never could. I really think you should try the system and give a more first hand and valuable insight into what it's about rather than second hand information. Keep up the good work with your channel, always enjoy your honest opinions.

[@SuperFiberoptic]

@RicketySkiReviews Did Carv send you a set of Carv 2 to test? Have you tested Carv 1 before? Those footbeds are difficult to fit in a race boot, so I only use in my free ski Lange RS130s. As founders we don’t get our v2s until mid November. Also we are grandfathered and don’t pay a yearly subscription. I think Carv 1 data is good post run to make corrections. Real time, someone buzzing in your ear is annoying.

[@CB-qf8yx]

Would you review a ski that you had not skied?

[@jgdpsu]

As a Carv user, I'm biased. But the value proposition is there IMHO. $200-$250 annual equals the cost of just 1 private 1-2 hour lesson. And I've gotten WAY more value out of my Carvs than 1 lesson per year would provide me. Also, Carvs are best for intermediate/advanced skiers. They aren't going to improve/help beginners IMHO and experts are already expert, LOL. As Jens mentioned, he's expert and they do help him track metrics as motivation to improve, but aren't really teaching him anything new. Personally, I consider myself low advanced level and the exercises and coaching has really worked for me. In regards to not "owning" it, for sure, that's a concern and would suck if Carv goes out of business. But as far as the money I've already spent, I've already gotten that value of out of it, so I wouldn't feel like I've lost money if they do go out of business. Finally, I ski about 20-25 days per year. I certainly don't use the coaching everytime since when I'm skiing with friends or family, I pay more attention to them. But I do certainly still have it record my session so I can review my metrics afterwards.

[@mariusstrnen1933]

100% agree with this!

[@stevenle1760]

Man those are the cheapest private lesson prices I've ever seen. At Keystone, Breck, Vail, and Copper a one day private lessons start at a crazy expensive over $1100 USD. A one day lesson in a group is about $230...

[@camwayland]

I bought a CARV for 2024 skied in 3 resorts Northern & Southern hemisphere winters, so very varied terrain and snow types and loved it. However I too was skeptical for the reasons you point out on "ownership", constant in your ear feedback, will it work for me etc. I quickly learned how to adjust the feedback settings that will work for you at that point of time the ski day i.e. free ski silence, chairlift only feedback, active coaching or just track/map your runs for the day. It's your choice. One final point, CARV by itself will not make a snow plough beginner into a world cup standard skier! CARV works if you understand what the feedback or data is telling you and importantly how you then execute using this info, therefore being a reasonably proficient technically driven skier is a good start. Secondly having lessons with an instructor who would work with the captured CARV data plus real time traditional observations was another benefit. ie CARV Ski IQ or specific focus skill improvements post lesson. I will be upgrading to V2 and take the "ownership" risk for 2025. Let alone the risk associated of having to buy resort passes like Epic well before the season in the hope you will be able to get reasonable value from them in the season ahead!

[@mathieug6136]

Removing the insert will feel so good! I ordered my carv2 already! I ski alone most of the time and it really makes it funnier as I can work on something and get some quantified progression. It really helped to improve my carving. I would probably let go of it once I reach a high level, although this year there's more options than carving and the rest of my ski skills kinda sucks, so that might be a big plus too.

[@Fish-bw9yh]

It took me so long to get my boots dialed in with the inserts that I may have to leave them in now with V2 anyway😅

[@graememcdaniel8330]

I skiied with carv last season and got exponentially better, its not for everyone but imo they are one of the best investments you can make in your skiing, i have not tried the 2 but do have my hands on them, tbd on wether or not they will be better but its really exciting to not have a sensor in my boot.

[@RicketySkiReviews]

Yeah that seems like it was a big barrier for people so glad to see it's been improved

[@gairnmclennan5876]

I used it for 80 days over the last two seasons. I like that it coaches you in realtime. You can dial up the how much you want to perform. Casual skiing or performance skiing, in the settings. For you Elliot your skiing is highly developed. I skied for 20 years but never carved. I decided to dedicate my efforts to carving and after a season 30 days was really not getting far. Next season I bought Carv. Great!

[@delriv5238]

Strictly my opinion, your mileage may vary. Carv is just another tool but only 1 tool. Maybe it will work for you maybe it won’t. I think Elliott‘S points are very valid. I think you need a combination of things to continually improve. 1. Ski more days 2. Ski with people who ski better than you and ski how you would like to ski 3. Take a good 1 on 1 lesson 4. When skiing take the time to really analyze what you’re doing and constantly chase the “perfect turn.”

[@CraigTavis]

Channel member here! Thanks for looking at that Elliot. I have to question your biggest criticism. You absolutely do not have to have it in your ear the whole time you’re skiing. That would be annoying. I use the real time coaching like a lesson and the rest of the time I’ll review my metrics on the chair. The role out of Carv 2 addresses the outside pressure issue. They found they weren’t using a ton of data from the pressure sensor so they have the AI extrapolating from boot position and accelerometer data. We’ll see I guess. Far cheaper than lessons and I could actually feel aspects of my skiing improve. Would love to hear you talk about what you might know regarding binding placement and delta. I bought peak 98 for this season and had them mounted back a little as Bode recommended to you. Now I’ve been listening to some people about these metrics and I wonder. Thanks for the content.

[@fedediaz2676]

Good honest opinion. Even as a long time CARV user I really don't like paying so much money for the yearly membership. I got the new sensors with a discount for being already a member but if the prices stay that high I'm not going to renew my membership next year.

[@Line-vw5io]

so if you don't renew, they don't work anymore?

[@alvarofigueiro1606]

What I enjoyed most about this video, as always, is the honest opinion. Funny enough, I just ordered the Carv 2 yesterday after avoiding it for a long time. What finally convinced me was the easier setup and the 100-day return policy. I’m going to give it a shot, and if it doesn’t work for me or I don’t like it, I’ll just return it. I also think $200 is too much for a subscription but the one-to-one class is way more expensive than that for those who want to improve their skiing.

[@RickBrauen]

My opinion / approach as a happy two year Carv customer -->> Turn it off when you want to go with the flow. Turn it on when you want to work on your skiing. Choose the level of feedback that you want. $250 a year for lessons is a bargain. You will get better.

[@jenniferbutcher759]

Good on you Elliott, totally agree, I was considering buying Carv 2 because it no longer required the insole, but decided against it due to the ludicrous subscription price. Also love skiing and the mountains for the peace and solitude, don’t want another App intruding…

[@lecunfe]

Great review once again Elliott !!!!

[@RicketySkiReviews]

Thank you!

[@RicketySkiReviews]

I didn't say it was a review. It's not titled that way nor is it in that Playlist

[@-Diceman]

Totally agree, I understand why tech companies are trying to get on subscription based models, but it is very unfriendly to the consumer. This product should frankly be a onetime payment of $200 with a monthly subscription of around $10 dollars, or like a or a day rate of $1-3/day. I purchased one with the 6-day subscription, because I want to try it before committing to a whole season - but their pricing model is outrageous. A customer should not have to pay a hefty subscription price to be able to use the expensive product they bought. Carv foresees this and thats why the market the product as “free” right now, but they are most definitely profiting a lot even if you choose the lowest subscription tier (there are only 2 options).

[@Drwatcherman]

Big Carv fan here, which is my only conflict of interest. Your concerns about subscription models are right on, but it would be worse if you paid $$$ up front with the promise of forever support (like with the Fiskar cars) and the company went under vs paying per year. The Carv hardware has always been free with a “season pass.” I have mine set to give me a summary on the chairlift of the last run and a tip when I’m skiing alone. I only turn on the real time feedback when I’m working on carving technique, maybe 2 runs per day. Most of us don’t have an expert Zach to give us free tips (let alone Zach’s dad!) and the yearly Carv subscription is way less than a single half day private lesson. When I’m skiing with other people I just let it run in the background with no feedback unless I check it at lunch or on the lift. Just try them out. I’m very curious what you actually think. This is like doing a ski review based on another KZbinr’s video.

[@sammy-lt2od]

I hope we can get some stats out of the thing without being tied to the subscription.

[@jkjeffk]

Great review. Having my phone chirping at me about my turns would definitely take me out of the flow that I love on the mountain.

[@SaltandPepper-mz1cb]

I have Carv and I do like it. It is not great for your mental health if you have the active coaching on the entire time. I don't wear headphones while skiing, but I love opening the app on chairlifts and see how I did and what I need to work on. They have pretty good warranty and is quite responsive on Carv community Facebook group. I am a ski nerd and love to improve, and is very ok with delayed satisfaction so it's a no-brainer in comparison to the super expensive private ski lessons that you are forced to do once you get to advanced ability...

[@dwaynenarayan3716]

Elliot, this is a great review. You make two good points in particular for me. One is the frustration with the subscription service. I totally get that, however, I would have to stipulate that the world has gone completely to subscription services and I hear what the other viewers are saying about the cost of lessons being astronomical compared to the cost of this subscription service. One possible advantage is that if the sensor breaks or malfunctions does having the subscription service, eliminate the risk associated with having to switch that out as often as it might need to be. The other point you make is not wanting to be bothered by hearing comments in your ear as you’re making every single turn as you’re going down the hill. I have not tried it so I don’t know what this would be like. However, I do know from skiing on carpet in the indoor setting that my PSIA instructors will literally look at every single turn I make and comment quickly and regularly. Granted in that training session, I’m not there to just enjoy myself on a revolving Hill of carpet, however, I do find that real time feedback to be helpful. When I’m on the hill, I don’t take lessons and just go for my own enjoyment. So for me hearing comments from the carv sensor would be fine as long as I could take it off that setting after an hour and just allow accumulation of data in the background to be viewed later. Always love your reviews. Super helpful and great points.

[@LAXtimmons]

Hi Elliott. My wife and I have had CARV for a few years now... including getting the new Carv2. I am at the expert level, wife is mid-Intermediate. My overall opinion touches on a point you brought up...... "when you were racing". You probably woulda loved having the CARV feedback then. I think we have not gotten full use because (1) we are older on (2) fatter skis. The fat skis mean... not racing ski width which I believe is the focus for CARV. We did get good feedback but I NOW only turn it on once or twice per month..... as (you eluded) I began to not have as much fun skiing any more. My turns are clearly better than before CARV and some of the drills ARE fun. I recommend CARV to friends, just not overwhelming support. Cost to me is a good value.

[@bearclaw5115]

You are kind of all over the place here. Are you not having as much fun because of Carve or is that why you bought it? What does "just not overwhelming support" mean?

[@crazybluechicken]

@@bearclaw5115 The meaning is pretty clear, he recommends CARV for people to use to learn carving on skis but it's not for him.

[@LAXtimmons]

@@bearclaw5115 As Elliott said, it's a lot of info speaking into the headphone (if you choose to hear all the info).. You can set the app to only give you feedback at the end of each run and/or on the chair ride back up the mountain. Additionally, setting carv up for one of the challenges or drills will result in info overload. As an example setting up Edge Angle.... you get a declaration of each turn's EA after a half second or more lag...... when you are already setting up for the next turn. Other reviewers (Aspen instructors come to mind) have commented on the ever present urge to DO BETTER. I got caught up in that hence my statement about skiing was not as fun any more. I did state that I still use CARV... but significantly less often. Not overwhelming support means (in my case) I believe the use of CARV has helped improve my skiing but at the loss of "fun" as explained above.

[@scottb6047]

Good video. I like that you explain CARV would be good for certain skiers, and not necessarily for you. I have thought about getting CARV, but I am with you on buying a subscription that could end at any moment, versus a functional non-subscription device. I relate this to TV streaming services. I rarely buy a yearly subscription, but do month to month so I can cancel it when I don't want it or use it anymore. Getting the sensor for free and buying a monthly or weekly low cost subscription would appeal to me and be as flexible as possible. Hopefully CARV will evolve in the future with their offerings.

[@pilotmaf7007]

My biggest issue with CARV is that question of ski for fun or improvement. Most times I just want to cruise down Paradise or Corn Patch. But CARV has helped me overcome technical deficiencies that instructors could not. So I am further ahead paying CARV than paying an instructor, but it is a hard pill to swallow. Probably won't upgrade to CARV2 as I tend to ski for fun more often than not.

[@maykilvlogzreborn4429]

carv 2 is awesome

[@onlinewen]

Not sure what you mean by "getting feedback all the time". If you want to pay someone/something to improve, you will get feedback, and it may not be exactly the way you want. And you can adjust the CARV feedback level. About the Subscription model, there is no turning back, when data and algorithm have most of the value.

[@reservabalsa]

I own Carv for a few seasons now. I don’t use it everyday, or all the time. As you mentioned, I also find it annoying to have constant feedback. But Carv has several settings. So you can get immediate feedback or none. You can choose an aspect of your skiing you want to focus on and work on that. And you can also use Carv without a subscription, it will only not give you feedback, or coaching, but it will show you your data. Also, about the outside ski pressure, they have a video explaining about this not being on Carv 2. As for the price, having paid more than 1k for a day private lesson, I think $200 for you to use it for a full year, is very reasonable.

[@Line-vw5io]

1K for 1day lesson???? Was it with Michelin star lunch and diner?

[@reservabalsa]

@ Aspen, Park City, Heavenly and Palisades. All this resorts are charging that, or more, for a 1 day private lesson. Just quoted in Palisades Tahoe and they are charging $1,150, plus tax and tip.

[@Line-vw5io]

@@reservabalsa I'm from Europe, and always go to Italy, Dolomites. Can't imagine those proces there.

[@reservabalsa]

⁠@@Line-vw5ioI agree with you. I visited Tignes a couple of years ago and also Portillo in Chile, prices are not even close to that. Private lessons in the US are extremely expensive.

[@Giffandy5329]

As a Carv user, I think concern #1 is essentially addressed. You can incrementally adjust the level of engagement from every turn to completely silent tracking. I trend towards skimming the data after the end of the day, or maybe at lunch nursing a brew. Concern #2 is the biggest issue. When I bought Carv in 2020 the system was sold as a one-time $349 purchase, and to their credit they honored the original deal with lifetime "Founders" memberships. Spreading that over four seasons and eighty or ninety days on the hill, I'm very satisfied with the value. But re-evaluating my usage at $249/year? Tripling the cost of ownership really kills the value proposition to the point I recommended an interested friend against it.

[@bearclaw5115]

thx for the feedback.

[@SaltandPepper-mz1cb]

I am pretty sure Carv is honoring the founder's status with a deal of hardware upgrade and still no subscription fee. Or am I wrong?

[@Giffandy5329]

@@SaltandPepper-mz1cb that's what I got from reading their upgrade page as well. I have no complaints about my experience. If a new buyer could get the same terms/pricing as me I would recommend it to everyone. Priced at $249/year? That's triple what I've paid to use the system and enough for two 90 minute private lessons a year, with enough leftover to get lunch at the bar. The system is good, but I don't think it beats 1:1 face time with a real instructor. That's fine when it's priced much more economically than private lessons, but when you price it the same as a couple lessons a year...

[@rudigerboogert5635]

With founder status you only buy the new inserts indeed, no yearly payments. My general view is that I never value reviews from those that have not tested the product (as indeed one would know you can limit the Carv commentary to being on the ski lift or fully stop it 😊).

[@Giffandy5329]

@@SaltandPepper-mz1cb they are, and kudos for them for doing right by legacy customers including myself. It's just that new users aren't getting those much more attractive terms/pricing. System works good, but it's not better than a human instructor. Problem is that for new customers the Carv pass is at a price point competing with private lessons.

[@jimmymckelvey6196]

Love the videos man so excited for the winter and I want to hear your opinion on the atomic bent 120

[@jackychuang4692]

I own a carv first generation. I use my Carv for feedback (feel vs reality). However, you could cheat a little by increasing edge angle intentionally for higher score. For me, Carv is a good tool to analyze my own skiing behavior. You just need to understand the fundamentals of skiing. Good product for what it's intended to do. You just need to know what's the limitations and what you could use it for.

[@gairnmclennan5876]

Thanks for the video Elliot. 😊 The new carv hardware is way cheaper. I paid 400 the new ones are free with annual subscription.

[@RicketySkiReviews]

Omg that's rough

[@stevenle1760]

With Ikon and Epic resorts like Copper or Keystone charing over $1000 for one private lessons and $230 for one group lessons, Carv looks like a freaking bargin.

[@res_ipsa-REX]

Great video... l love different points of views. A friend bought me this product since it is much cheaper than in previous years and he has enjoyed using it. I agree with not wanting to be listening to the AI talk to me while skiing. I will keep that feature on silent most of the time. Since it includes a subscription for one season, I will use it and see how it goes. Some extra data is useful, but I just don't need tons of data for recreational skiing. I also don't need skiing to turn into a "video game" like experience. But I could see how this would be helpful to those wanting to progress from beginner to intermediate and intermediate to advanced, especially if you often ski alone. Much Much cheaper than group lessons. I too am not a fan of the subcription model and normally avoid subscriptions

[@jons7e]

If you plan on getting multiple 1:1 lessons every year, this is actually a more cost effective way and a cool idea. It easily can be added or removed from the boots so you don't have to commit to using it unless working on something, just like a lesson. But I would say most people don't take multiple 1:1 lessons per year, so the subscription might not be worth it for many people long-term, selling the device before it's obsolete. And can a gyroscope really tell you what you need to know? Does it actually replace a lesson? How accurate is this feedback? That's the part I'd like to know

[@jerl.980]

just ordered one today with their sale. True it is subscription based and that sucks but with carv2 they removed the pressure sensors( i think it was goodn to have and i don't know how they get pressure info) i had no space in my boot to add a sole with carv1. i will give you my opinion once i have a couple good days on it. Being an ex instructor and racer i am very curious. I don't think i will wear it all the time but on days i want to work on my technique. i agree it is important to just enjoy winter and feel the snow. i will also try it with my Younger son who came back to skiing a year ago and is an intermediate. it will have to be exeptional for me to pay a 2nd year.

[@ntexpert]

Instead of Carv, spend money on a proper orthotic. This gets your feet dialed in, enabling better control/feel, and ultimately more skiing enjoyment. Improvement comes with reps on the hill.

[@jean-francoiscloutier7361]

That was a great subjet. I'm glade you cover this matter. CARV. ????????

[@gairnmclennan5876]

Fb carv community is where it's talked about. 😊

[@ExcaIan]

as some commenters already pointed out, point 1 is moot because you can customise how much you want to hear. i think potential safety issues having your attention split/not being able to hear is valid, which i don't think you covered! (to my surprise) second point, it's rare that any ongoing updating application is going to be free or a one time purchase. i agree it sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. apps are being continuously updated, salaries need to be paid. i'd see it as buying a subscription but getting the device free. so the question becomes is 250 USD a year worth it for a digital coach? considering the price of lessons nowadays, if you amortise it across 10 days it's 25 USD per day for some level of instruction and monitoring. is it that bad? don't ski passes cost 200 USD per day? again surprised you didn't cover this angle (then again you don't need lessons! haha) there's also the problem where it teaches bad habits in pursuit of higher ski IQ (god i hate that term lol). i think it's valuable for when you can't have lessons - skiing for me is a big endeavour (social) endeavour every year where i have to book flights, lodging and transportation. sometimes its impossible to fit lessons in. i've heard good feedback for being used together with your instructor too, so there's that. i bought the new carv because it won't mess with my boot fit, let's see how it goes!

[@sammykosbar5637]

I laughed a little as the squirrel passed behind you on the fence as your deep in your rant. Sorry but it was ironic lol.

[@jackjmaheriii]

If I could just buy CARV, I’d be on it because it gameafies improvement, and I looooooove competition even if it’s with myself. But…. The subscription is eye watering and I’m not going to pay that kind of money for a sport where I spend half the time doing husband / dad stuff.

[@AJ-di4df]

11:11 ELLIOTT RANT INITIATE!

[@jjchung34]

Your comments about the subscription model are valid. Some people would rather pay one (higher?) price upfront and not deal with subscriptions. But your entire comment about Concern #1 makes absolutely no sense. This would be like reviewing a pair of headphones and saying that you wouldn't like it because you hate listening to music too loud. Sometimes you might want it loud, but most times you like it soft. Well then, don't put the volume up on your headphones. So if you don't think you'd like constant turn by turn feedback from CARV, then don't turn on that feature.

[@RicketySkiReviews]

I'm just saying why the product doesn't appeal to me specifically in that section, as a way of showing my biases. I even say in the video that it would have appealed to me previously. My main focus is on the payment model and long term support.

[@adils3778]

Great video, the subscription model is outrageous and it’s just a hard pass only because of it

[@harryhanson6660]

LOL. Your big hangup? Turn it off. It doesn't require you to listen to real time feedback. I don't pay attention to any of that, I'll review when I'm on the lift between laps... I find it useful to give me areas to focus improvement on. I don't like the direction it's going though... for example losing the outside pressure metric is taking one of the most important aspects of skiing. Agree 100% on the subscription model though. You should pay for your hardware, and a reasonable subscription fee for the cloud content.

[@mbtravel7294]

I bought into Google stadia cloud gaming system founders edition. When it was cancelled, Google refunded every penny for the hardware and software that i bought 🙏🙂

[@ran981248]

With Carv, the value is all in the software, I think of it like a Netflix subscription. Or are you more of a hardcopy DVD type of person? I agree that if Carv goes offline, the hardware is useless. With the new, less ski boot intrusive hardware, they should send it out to reviewers like you to try. Have you tried contacting them?

[@ischgl89]

Hi, unrelated but I was hoping for some advice on deciding what to pull the trigger on as a daily driver ski for skiing the alps this season. I’m 5’10’’ and 165 pounds (or 178cm and 75 kg) and I really can’t decide between a salomon qst 98 and a fischer ranger 102. I don’t really have a way to demo them so I really don’t know how to choose. I have a background in racing which fell really short due to injuries so I know my way around carving, let’s call it an L6, and now I would enjoy a less demanding ski that can get me into pow and maybe even a little park and switch skiing (not a priority though). I think the extra width will feel nice since the alps either get fresh snow or slush these days but I wouldn’t wanna sacrifice edge hold and grip for perfect groomers that we get pretty often. I’m looking specifically into those two skis cause I can get some pretty decent deals on them, but any advice would be appreciated. Also I was thinking of pairing any of those two skis with a salomon shift 13 or a pivot 15 (for a cast upgrade in the future) just to get in some quick tours in the sidecountry. Would it be a good idea? I’d certaintly still ski those primarily in the resort. Thankyou in advance to anyone who will take some time to give me some advice!

[@bearclaw5115]

I have skied the Ranger 102, it carves surprisingly well. The ski steers from the front. The tail is very stable, like a platform back there. Kind of weird to say but that's how it felt. They are a little slow edge to edge but I like really nimble skis. I have not used the QST 98 but I can say it is a little bit more off-trail focused than Ranger. You are looking to combine carving groomers, park, switch and touring. That's a tall order. I think one ski to consider is the Rustler 9, it's extremely versatile. I'd put a regular alpine binding on whatever ski you choose. If you want to tour, use a dedicated set up. The skis you are considering are all heavy for touring. You are creating too many compromises trying to combine all these different ski styles IMO.

[@ischgl89]

@@bearclaw5115 does the ranger 102 perform well in powder? Tankyou for the insight! I know trying to combine touring park pow and groomers is impossible so I’m completely ok with sacrifices in the first two applications for better performance in my two favourite terreins (even though I wouldn’t be mad about being able to ski switch a little). Unfortunately blizzard isn’t an option but I have demoed all this years line last winter and EVERY ski feels really good (the anomaly 88 ripped groomers imo).

[@RicketySkiReviews]

Hey I will answer your question in my next video so keep an eye out!

[@ischgl89]

@@RicketySkiReviews wow thankyou very much! I hope I don’t get bashed for any mistakes in my comment xd (italian is my first language).

[@RicketySkiReviews]

You should see my answer later today in my video!

[@doughboypow]

The purchase model is why I will never get Carv. Agree with Elliott.

[@Watchdog2024]

Seems lame... I have my head in media all day, all year long, I go skiing so I can heal from all of that. The last thing I need is yet another app or device invading my escape.

[@bearclaw5115]

I don't like their business model. There is no reason for a subscription. Newspapers and magazines have subscriptions because they need to provide you with ongoing content. WTF does carve need to keep billing me for? Put it in the box, charge me once and let me enjoy it. Interested in the tech but not paying and paying and paying for it.

[@crazycanuk3912]

Then don't use it

[@RicketySkiReviews]

I don't, I'm just voicing concerns about the subscription model and long term support.

[@simonorr594]

To all you Carv haters. So much racism against a product made in Britain - that great skiing nation. Eddy the Eagle is super upset on his dry ski slope in Gloucester. Carv won't go out of business, British people work for peanuts!

[@GrampyScott]

Eddy the Eagle. Just brought me back in time 😅

[@mbtravel7294]

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