My Disappointment With Glass Onion

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Hello! Sorry for the long gap between this video and the last one. I have more videos planned, so I should be able to get them out quicker. I hope you guys enjoy this video, because I had fun making it.
Here are the links to the videos where I got my information from during the gun segment.
Leather vs bullets: • How Much Leather Does ...
Glass vs bullets: • How Many Glass Panes W...
Music used in this video:
During Video: • Glass Onion Music
Outro: • TheFatRat - MAYDAY fea...

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@xTerminatorAndy Жыл бұрын

Miles didn't wait for Andi to be dead. Miles was genuinely shocked to see that Andy was there at the beach. He is that stupid. He thought she survived and when he shot Helen he thought he was still killing Andy.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

In that case, I still don't understand why he'd send her a box

@xTerminatorAndy Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls (remember Miles is an idiot) he needs an alibi. He thinks that by inviting her to the party it somehow shows that he hasn't got anything to do with her death.

@guilhermecatapangraziotin3602 Жыл бұрын

No, he definetely knew at that time that helen was an impostor. After all, Duke was only killed because he threatened miles by linking him to Andy's "suicide". Duke and Miles should have know for that Andi was dead, because of her suicide being reported on the news.

@xTerminatorAndy Жыл бұрын

@@guilhermecatapangraziotin3602 he killed Duke because he treatened him, but remember Miles is an idiot. You can see when Hellen comes down the stairs and Benoit calls her Hellen that this is a complete surprise to Miles. After the reaction that she's alive even after getting shot.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

but, if he didnt realize that he had killed Andi, then why would he send the box as an alibi? If he thought she was alive, why would he try to cover up a crime he didn't know happened? Anyway you look at it, it still doesn't make sense

@EL-ql2fc Жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed this movie very much. I got what i was expecting and it was entertaining for me the whole time (which is quite uncomon since i have the atttention span of a hyperactive child) I got alot of Poirot vibes from it. I know the movie isnt perfect, and some parts felt a bit weird but for me its a good sequel to Knives out. I completely understand your points, but my opinion stays… i liked it and i hope the next movie will be (at least) as good as glass onion

@thevman6882 Жыл бұрын

When I was a kid I picked out my very first book at a school book fair. I still have it. That book was a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book called "Who Killed Harlowe Thrombey?" I read that book and got every single possible "version" of that story. It got me into reading Agatha Christie, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, Encyclopedia Brown. I even read Maurice Lablanc. I have gotten pretty good at solving mysteries on television, in books, or in movies. (Ahem) years later, when I watched "Knives Out", I had a very weird experience. It was like I'd seen it. Don't get me wrong, Rian Johnson fleshed it out incredible well. His "Harlan Thrombey" is very clearly "Harlowe Thrombey". The movies core beats follow several possible book paths as well. If I wrote an expanded, more detailed version of "Death On The Nile", called it "Honeymoon Of Death" and changed "Hercule Poirot" to "Hercules Poirott"... would I be allowed to get away with it?

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

You bring up an interesting point there. I can't say that I noticed it in the first movie, but I can definitely say that I saw it here. The core beats of both movies follow the same path, same character motivations, etc. Harlan and Miles are both the rich ones in the group, while pretty much everyone else is there for the paycheck. Even down to the last slow motion scene at the end of this movie. In Knives Out, Ransom grabs the knife and fails to stab Marta, and in this one, Miles fails to stop Helen from burning the Mona Lisa. A lot of points from this movie have been treaded upon in Knives Out

@darkhobo Жыл бұрын

Yes. People remake murder on the orient express literally all time.

@leonpgut Жыл бұрын

As a big fan of the movie, here's my opinion on some of the criticisms you brought up: "Many of the disruptors/shitheads don't have much of a role in the story and aren't memorable." I guess this one's subjective, but I found them to be more memorable than the family members in Knives Out. Since they are a friend group rather than a family, each character is vastly different from the others. And aside from their obvious story roles (such as Duke being the one to put together that Miles killed Andi and then being poisoned), they also have 2 more purposes. As subjects in the murder case, since the viewer is led to believe Miles wouldn't have killed Andi, and to show that people of different jobs and personalities can all still side with immorality as long as there's money and career prosperity in it for them. "The book wouldn't stop a bullet." Can't really argue with that, but I'm not exactly watching a movie like this for complete accuracy in gun physics, so it's not an issue for me. "Blanc gives Helen the glass, even though Miles could have poisoned it." Since Duke was killed through the use of his allergy, it's safe to assume there was no substance in close proximity that would just kill anyone, which is why Miles couldn't have poisoned Helen's drink. "Miles kills Andi but then sends an invitation to her house." That was what Miles thought could serve as his alibi. So that later, once her death becomes public, he wouldn't be framed as the invitation would make everyone think that he still assumed her to be alive at that point. It's not particularly clever of him, but he thinks he's smarter than he really is all throughout. That's all I have to say about your criticisms. I'd also like to add that the movie brilliantly plays with the viewer's preconceived notions of the rich as we're led to believe Miles couldn't be so stupid to act this way, since he is a genius after all. Only for that illusion to be taken away at the end, showing how people with money and power aren't really better/deserving of it. I can recommend the analysis videos by Pillar of Garbage for a lot more detail on the movie's themes.

@JC_Cali Жыл бұрын

I think it's conveyed in the movie that he sent her the box as part of the plausible deniability - "I sent her a box invite so of course I didn't kill her!"

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

I don't think it was conveyed that way in the movie. The plot point was never brought up after the reveal that Helen was the one who hired Blanc

@DAMIENDMILLS Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls But it doesn't need to be explained. We're all smart enough to see why Miles would still send an invitation to Andi, even after killing her. It would be even more suspicious if he hadn't. Even Lionel on the boat ride said "The question isn't 'Why did he invite her?', it's 'Why did she show up?' " This implies that Miles has successfully put on a facade to the rest of the group (due to his gaslighting skills), and made them believe that Miles has no hard feelings toward Andi, but in fact it's the opposite. The truth is they both hate each other. But to save face, it's easy to assume that Miles must invite Andi every year, she just never shows up, and Miles expects that she never will. Either due to her own hatred toward him, or in the latest case, due to the fact that she is physically unable to arrive. With Helen however, posing as Andi. That is the first time her invitation is ever accepted.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

@@DAMIENDMILLS We can assume, but we can never confirm, that's the problem with this. you can assume that he sent it as an alibi, but you'll never really know. there's also the fact that Miles and Andi had a public fallout, so it's weird that Miles would try to contact her around the same time that she ends up dead. even weirder that it happens right after her email with the real napkin. and, if you wanna point out that nobody questions miles when he invites her, we can also assume that: if he invites her all the time and she never accepts an invite, then they would probably assume that she just ignored the invite again. it makes more sense for miles to avoid contact

@Señor-Donjusticia Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls It’s a consistent problem I see with this film. When Miles needs to be an evil genius, he can be clever enough to give a murder victim an invite to reflect suspicion. When he needs to be insanely dumb, he makes utterly stupid decisions such as keeping the napkin when he had no further use for it. There is no consistency. True, a person can make smart and dumb decisions, but a person cannot be utterly moronic and an unbelievable genius at the same time! Or at least, cannot be so without a VERY good explanation…which the movie does not give.

@tezzag818 Жыл бұрын

Given that the movie is supposed to be a parody, spoof and satire, the only thing we can say is, “it’s not meant to be realistic, it is a movie!”Youre right though, it was a dumb movie.

@the_mikeanator Жыл бұрын

When I watched this I thought he was trying to tell her that use the cup miles poisoned duke with as evidence, or to drink from the cup and kill herself and leaving her own body has the evidence for the police. But it was just an odd gesture

@heiligebimbam3073 Жыл бұрын

Glass onion is not even vaguely a good film. It is BS. At best it is reminiscent of TV series White Tulip. That people are tempted to compare this awful film with Knives Out just because it came from the same film maker is a travesty. Knives Out is an excellent film, and has absolutely nothing in common with this godawful Glass Onion.

@obsidianobsen7531 Жыл бұрын

i honestly liked the movie, it was as good as the first but Andi still gettinng the box was weird and i didnt like it

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

I really liked the first half, but for me, everything fell apart after the fakeout death

@quotedalpha9386 Жыл бұрын

I’m commenting to support your channel, you’re awesome! Really interesting video essay, hope you make it big someday. While I do disagree on some points you made, I definitely see where you’re coming from with others. Good luck, keep making awesome stuff dude

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

ayy, thank you so much :D

@mrmichaelencke Жыл бұрын

Another intelligent move by the man who's whole thing is that he is an idiot. Such an idiot that he didn't get rid of a napkin.

@shanustheanus Жыл бұрын

I can't tell which part made me cringe more. Not getting the obvious reasons why Myles would send the box to Andi or the smarmy delivery for the proposed worse rewrite. This video was a roller coaster.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

I understand the multiple ideas of why Miles *might* have sent the invite, but I can't justify them when looking at what the movie presents. and, the point of my rewrite was to say that the movie was similar to knives out, but in a worse way. I'm not claiming to be a better writer, those were just my thoughts

@toast8325 Жыл бұрын

you should make one of these on the human centipede franchise

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

no. Im not watching those

@toast8325 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls theyre great though, didnt you just “love” what you saw of the 2nd one 🧐

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

not at all

@bojandam963 Жыл бұрын

I think either Miles sent the game before he killed Andi or he did cuz he can say Oh I didn't know she is dead I even sent her an invitation to my party. Also I think the fakeout death shouldn't happen she could have been missed and fell to the ground so miles tought he killed her anyways

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

I think it would've been kinda funny, and fitting if Miles missed and they played along with it, and that actually fooled him. And it would be in character since he's an idiot. The fakeout death is purely dumb and illogical. I still haven't found a good explanation for the box though. There are people who say that it's an alibi, and people who use Miles' reaction in the movie to say that he didn't even know Andi was dead. If it's an alibi, the movie doesn't do a good job explaining it, and if Miles didn't realize that Andi was dead, then there was no reason for an alibi. Either way, bad writing.

@darkhobo Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls its an alibi. It doesn't need an explanation, it's obvious. If he doesn't send an invite, someone could conclude he knows she is dead. This whole analysis just screams "i dont get it so it must be bad"

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

I'm not saying it's objectively bad, I'm saying *I* don't like it. Read the title. Also, when you have a public falling out with someone, it is a complete stretch to say "he didn't send her an invite, HE KNOWS SHE DIED." like, what?

@odysseymusicrelations2752 Жыл бұрын

I think you need to rewatch the film with an open mind, it’s a satirical take on the genre, it’s not knifes out. They are different movies. The characters being stupid or assholes is intentional. You are suppose to realize this. I watched the movie expecting it to be one of the friends and have some smart reason but it’s not that type of movie. The twist is simple, this isn’t a complex movie, and that’s the point. You are calling the movie bad bc you don’t like it or it’s illogical but those things don’t condemn the movie to being bad.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

I may not have mentioned it, but I really liked the first half of this movie. And, I do know that everyone being assholes is intentional, I realize that, my point was that it's hard to care about these characters when they all suck. Blanc and Helen are the only 2 characters that don't suck. 2 out of 9 characters. I was saying that the characters weren't likable at all. Also, I'm not saying anything against the "Miles is dumb" twist, because I don't have an issue with it, but I am saying that the movie's script has flaws. Helen should've been hit with the bullet, and Miles shouldn't have sent an invite box to the person he murdered. There was no given explanation for why Miles did that. We can assume our own explanations, but the movie never directly gives us one. I'm saying that I don't like the movie because it's illogical. The script has gaps in logic that I can't ignore.

@odysseymusicrelations2752 Жыл бұрын

@Al35sandr0 she definitely should’ve been Hit by the bullet logically and they should’ve died from The explosion, although miles sending the box didn’t need an explanation, we could assume that he did it so it wouldn’t look suspicious, but let’s say you didn’t wanna assume that, even if its illogical this is the same dude that didn’t burn the evidence earlier but just hid it. He’s an idiot. That’s the point. I also don’t believe the movie was trying to get you to Like anyone of the friends, you aren’t suppose to like them. I do agree the movie has flaws and is illogical but that’s every movie even the best ones. To say this movie is bad is weird considering none of your criticism justify it, I think some of your main points should’ve been how we see what plays out but then the director gaslights the audience by a reshoot of the same scene with more information. The Movie cheats by withholding information just for the sake of keeping the audience from solving it, that’s just objectively bad story telling if you are showing events as they are.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

Miles sending the box did need an explanation, since if you put any rational thought into it, it makes absolutely no sense. You can only assume that he did it to cover his tracks, but with what the film presents, there are things that make it illogical. I don't care if he didn't destroy the evidence. That is a dumb choice that's in character, because there shouldn't have been anyone there looking for the evidence, however, he invited his own murder victim to the island where he stored said evidence. THAT is beyond dumb, it's bad writing. I do agree that seeing the same things with more info is a bit cheap, but my complaints are more about the illogical choices made in the movie.

@hel117 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls You keep saying it doesn't make since, but I think if you are an idiot like Miles going 'well I obviously didn't know she was dead I sent her an invite so obviously I didn't kill her' sounds like a perfectly reasonable way to cover your tracks. It doesn't matter that the invite is to his island, she isn't alive and obviously someone like Miles isn't worried about the police suspecting him, let alone searching his private island. Plus, I'm sure he thought his hiding place for the envelope was foolproof, even though anyone with a brain would know otherwise. I think you are underestimating the sheer stupidity of the type of people he's a satire of.

@odysseymusicrelations2752 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls completely understandable. Illogical events can bring you out the movie, I personally feel the goods out way the flaws but I respect your opinion if you think it’s a bad movie because of its illogical errors.

@DAMIENDMILLS Жыл бұрын

Miles didn't see Andi die. He just gave her sleeping pills, and left her in the garage in a running car, hoping she would die from the exhaust. But he still sent an invitation to her to get rid of any suspicion, because why would you invite someone if you suspect they are dead? He probably invites her every year, but she never joins them. Only Helen answers the invitation, posing as her sister. The only problem is Miles is an idiot and never thought to make sure Andi was dead. Which is why when he saw "Andi" on the island he didn't immediately assume it was Helen, because she may as well be the real Andi surviving the murder attempt with the sleeping pills, and is here to exact revenge on Miles. So he acts casually about it, but meanwhile planning to murder her while on the island. He improvisingly planned to kill her on the island anyway, but only ever attempts to do it after learning that she isn't the real Andi, and that the real Andi is dead. He feared Andi more than anyone, but Helen? She is no threat to him. So all he had to do was shoot Helen and he'll be in the clear. But what Miles didn't plan for was Benoit Blanc. Helen sought him out. He foiled Miles' clumsy murder plan from the beginning, and helped Helen get to the point where she can finish him off in good old disruptive fashion.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

Even if Miles didn't know Andi was dead, sending the invite is still baffling. He has every reason to go no contact with her. there's also no proof that he invites her every time, so for all we know, he killed her, and then chose to make and send an invite. If we're going with the "Miles didn't know Andi was dead" excuse, then we can see that Miles was confused when Blanc revealed that Helen was posing as Andi. So, altogether... Miles: attempts to kill Andi, isn't 100% sure that it worked, but he sends an invite as an alibi. "Andi" then shows up, but Duke reveals that it isn't Andi, so Miles kills Duke, and shoots Helen. then, when Helen is revealed to be Helen, Miles STILL ends up being confused, despite "understanding" everything and making his dumb plan. when you look at it like this, it just doesn't make sense

@kinoscuro Жыл бұрын

I agree with the point Helen should have died. That was just stupid. But with the other points, they know that Miles is not stupid enough to poison a person in front of everyone. He was the only person to handle her drink so poisoning it would point directly to him. On the puzzle boxes, Miles invited Andi because after her death came out, he could point to that as evidence he didn't know. He was pretending to not know she was dead.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

For the drink point, he had prepared all of the drinks before everyone showed up to the room, so he could've poisoned it beforehand. He also was able to put pineapple juice into his drink to kill Dave Bautista, and he was able to swap out their drinks with nobody noticing, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for him to have slipped something into the drink, especially considering that he was actively trying to kill Helen, and he had 2 other confirmed kills. (edit to add) There was also the time during the black out where he could've screwed with it, and then nothing would've directly pointed to him. There were opportunities where he could've avoided suspicion. For the box, the movie never confirms if that's the case. It's a possible explanation, but the movie doesn't give an actual explanation.

@LonelyTenno Жыл бұрын

i have to say that the thing about the death ceating of Helen is more like a trope of the series. In both the movies, teh first one and glass onion, both protagonist Marta and Helen, are saved by an item or something from the victim that got killed in the first place, i like to think that this deaths were eluded because the victims protect the protagonist, so they could bring the true evil guys to justice. But i can understand that someone would differ form me, never the less, is the way i see this movie that i love so much as the first one :)

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

If you're referring to the stabbing scene at the end, then I guess I can kind of see your point. But there was a line of dialogue that pointed towards it as foreshadowing. I also see the fake knife as something that could plausibly happen, it's not guaranteed that the knives in that thing are real at all. However, I just can't justify Helen being saved by the journal, which is my problem with it. I'm glad that you enjoyed it though!

@ryanr9299 Жыл бұрын

A better twist wouldve been if helen had try to frame miles for murdering her sister.. Then she would try and sue him or by whatever means to steal his multi-billionaire kingdom..

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

That could've been an interesting narrative. I like the idea of a twist that reveals nobody as the killer. Then, Blanc could end up investigating Helen to stop her from wrongfully taking the business or something.

@ryanr9299 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls Ya, thatd be good... But its more fun when there is a killer involved.. lol.. Not a bad idea tho.. The ending in the movie i thought was just bad... Acting as well as what happened.. I was like ... ummmm ok watching it..

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

@@ryanr9299 yeahh, the ending was very weak imo. I really liked the first half, but everything else kinda fell flat

@ryanr9299 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls 100% agreed

@Relish13579 Жыл бұрын

1:01 glad to have been one of them lol

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

me too :D

@reneelyons6836 Жыл бұрын

clap clap clap clap clap : )

@Robozgraggi Жыл бұрын

A point about the gun used to shoot Helen: It seems to be either a Zastava M57 or M70a, the difference being only the caliber (7,62x25 and 9x19). The only probable way I see how that scene could work is that the bullet happened to be an underloaded dud. In any other specific scenario a shoot from that distance would have killed her. As a matter of fact, if it was a normally functioning 7,62x25 FMJ it would have gone straight through her. I guess it's only there because this is an old movie trope, that some carried object stops a bullet.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

Oh, interesting. Thanks for the extra info! Too bad the trope is pretty illogical in cases like these.

@Relish13579 Жыл бұрын

Omg slay queen !!

@notemsies Жыл бұрын

slayed

@natallio3365 Жыл бұрын

i have never seen a movie with that amount of plot conveniances, incredibly forced really. good video btw

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

thanks!

@ClaireMonica-Art Жыл бұрын

Totally bad tv movie - DC must be embarrassed by it

@SayMy_User_Name Жыл бұрын

Everyone acting like Rian Johnson is miles bron except he’s actually just.. miles bron.. the irony is not lost on me

@marmanjoteta2100 Жыл бұрын

Inviting Andi was definitely stupid, because Miles had a plausible reason not to do it, due to their litigation. The absence of a guest list for a PRIVATE island at the departure spot is fairly ludicrous (it would've prevented Blanc's presence). You've already mentioned Helen's gunshot survival. The point about Helen taking the drink can be argued, because it isn't known for a fact that Miles had poison up his sleeve, at that moment everybody was aware of what he did to Andi, which would make him the obvious suspect, and he clearly wasn't comfortable with doing his killing overtly. Even though I enjoyed some of the elements of the movie (the depiction of the meatriding - figuratively and also literally in Whiskey's case - and the void of character that people are capable of), the plot is incoherent and they used idiocy to justify said incoherence.

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

exactly, that's what I was thinking too. It would also just be odd timing that Miles would invite her to an island getaway around the time that she had died. I know that it was a "suicide," but it would put more attention on him, since there was so much animosity between them

@guilhermecatapangraziotin3602 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls honestly i thought that he kinda always sended stuff like that for all of his friends, and just didn't bother stop sending stuff to Andi, even if he thought she would refuse it. He must have planned the island escapade before committing the murder, after all. But still, he also had said that the box was very expensive.... so it doesn't really make sense for him to make one and send one if he believes the person receiving it wont show up.

@odysseymusicrelations2752 Жыл бұрын

He’s suppose to be an idiot, ……why would it make sense ?

@GingerAls Жыл бұрын

because writing for stories like this needs to be logical. You can write dumb characters that make bad choices. Having a dumb character is not an excuse for bad writing/plot holes

@odysseymusicrelations2752 Жыл бұрын

@@GingerAls how is it a plot hole. He’s rich. Making an extra cost nothing but time. If he wanted everyone to get one to cover up the whole murder it makes sense. They way if something happened to her and She didn’t show up. He wouldn’t be consider cuz only a idiot would do that. They literally said this in the beginning. He’s actions as stupid because he’s stupid that’s not a plot hole.