My Fiance's Mom Decided She HATES ME The Day I Gave Birth To Our Daughter r/Relationships

[@copercurlz]

Story 2 got me so upset for OP. How dare Tim decide that OP's RV is now a lovely thing to use for cheating on her. How dare he even think about cheating on her! I'm glad she's dumping this man. She deserves so much better. Hope she can enjoy her RV with many writing ideas to come. She sounds wonderful.

[@poohbear4515]

Honestly, I was hoping she’d ditch him completely if they stopped at a gas station. But it sounded like she was too good far that. But having him show what a massive asshole he is in front of his mother is also a good punishment.

[@deborahyoung1873]

I don't think I could have controlled myself like she did. I would have taken the tablet or whatever I could find and cracked his head open.

[@Yusei1Fudo]

@@poohbear4515 Yeah. I felt such a strong sense of vindication when she said "I don't know. Why don't you ask Tim why he was trying to cheat on me with his ex?" Such a simple and easy way to get it out that you know and now, so does she.

[@MalkavianGhoul]

Man saw it and was like WOW! This will make a wonderful way to cheat on my wife. Glad he got dumped to the curb with the other trash

[@jakeand9020]

I'm curious what he was planning to do about his wife when they got to his ex's location. Thinking about it, he was making the trip miserable for her. He probably intended to be sweet while visiting his mom and convince her to stay there while he continued on. Her apology thrilled him as he probably interpreted that as a good sign he'd be able to.

[@JasperCatProductions]

Letting a woman who abused her own child near your baby is disgusting. If a person can’t love their child why would they care about a grand baby? Grow up and protect your kid.

[@JustAthena1]

I have people in my family that treats their grandchildren way better than their own kids like excuse me?! I wouldn't even take that chance

[@j.j.juggernaut9709]

My grandaprents treated me and my cousins very well and they were sh*tty parents. That being said, I also wouldn't take my chances

[@JustAthena1]

@@j.j.juggernaut9709 my aunt treated me and my other lil cousin so bad we could even get off the couch to go to the bathroom while his sister broke shit and we still got blamed. Now she has two more grandchildren and treats them so good. She been nice to me since I got older the boy went crazy and left and the girl she treats her so damn bad now. Crazy how that turned out

[@axiomshift4666]

It really depends on the grandparent but generally yeah. My alcoholic asshole of a grandpa was super sweet to all of his grandkids because he had gotten off the sauce. Didn’t treat my grandma or my mother well and wasn’t really a father but was a pretty nice grandfather.

[@lynnw7155]

Yes; at some point it is OP and husband's fault for tolerating his mother. When you lie down like a doormat, people will walk on you. And, as I said, at some point it' becomes YOUR fault. Petty me would forward her nasty posts to EVERYONE so they see what a witch she is. The update wasn't inspiring; I don't think OP or hub changed at all. They just got rid of the current bully.

[@suzanne5685]

OP in the second story just posted an update on her account. It’s in her comments so you have to look at her profile to see it!!! She’s divorced, got 50/50 in court (got more if she did her prenup), and is single/still a writer!!!

[@jadedflames2809]

that's so awesome!!!

[@Russman67]

Story 1: The scary part of the whole story is that she knew what kind of person the mother-in-law was from listening to her husband's stories and still tried to play nice. Glad MIL moved but OP needs to be ready to protect that baby.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I felt that part so damn hard. I'm a recovering people pleaser, myself. If I had a partner who was telling me stories about how abusive and toxic his mother was, I know I would be lucky to be able to stay civil at best. But 4 or 5 years ago? Yeah I would've been just like OP. People like the MIL are honestly the absolute worst because not only do they treat others like dog shit, but they can be so damn good at it, they make their victims think THEY the aholes/not good enough. I do my absolute best to never wish death on people, but we all know it comes for us all eventually. And when it comes for people like MIL, I hope it's completely alone haunted by the ghosts of all the things she's done that put her in that moment.

[@Midnight0Mistress]

Just 2 mins into the video and I rolled my eyes already. Seriously, allowing that kind of woman near the baby?

[@messinalyle4030]

Totally agree! OP thought she might as well "make friends with the person her MIL is now" since her husband seemed to have forgiven her? OP's Pollyanna ways came back to bite her in the ass. MIL hasn't changed at all--who she is now is exactly the same person that she was. And how can the husband have forgiven his mother when he apparently hasn't even worked up the courage to get angry with her in the first place? You can't genuinely forgive someone until you have gotten angry at them first, and processed what they have done to you.

[@PrincessAfrica3]

People pleaser always try to please the narcissist spirit. They have this unholy connection. I know as a a people pleaser who tries to be aware of this now. It’s the same spirit King Ahab and his wife Jezebel had.

[@doggolovescheese1310]

Right!? Screw that!

[@Mariet31]

Taking a RV to a business trip and get ridiculously upset about not getting it, it screams right away "I want to cheat" and the way he treated her also screams "there is another woman making me happy so why bother treating you like an human?" Can't believe people suggested counseling when he was clearly cheating...

[@lynnw7155]

And "I don't want you on my trip". And how much fun it would be with his girlfriend in the RV.

[@cnow82]

Story 1. They need therapy. That is not normal to willingly be abused and expose their child to that abuse. They need to realize their child’s safety comes before their desire to keep that psycho in their life. And the family members that are cold, where were they when she was abusing her son? They are complicit with her abuse. Get tf away from her! If not for themselves, then for their child.

[@ginathecookie]

Glad you said they Both of them were being sus with their people pleasing Absolutely they need therapy and I hope they learn to stand up for themselves too, they sound like good people who desperately need boundaries

[@ashaduplessis2772]

Because nobody is willingly abused. And abusers mentally abuse long before they physically do it. I really wish people would actually learn about abuse dynamics before saying stuff like this.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

And the viewpoint of what would relative or other people in their small town think? Who cares! They're not the ones being abused or putting their child in harm's way. So good that the old bat moved away. NC is the correct answer here.

[@catT5236]

Story 1: "She never treated him like he was a priority at all." It's not about him being a priority to her but HER being his priority. Also abusive parents often dislike it when their victims have kids because it can force their victims to see their abuse & set boundaries in order to protect their children.

[@AndyyWithAY]

MIL in story 1 is just wow. OP needs to sort out her people pleasing ways. MIL is manipulative. OP is just enabling her and giving more ammunition.

[@KCohere33]

She has to learn not everyone is going to like you and that’s okay.

[@marilynbartlett1850]

When I hear about people that are this hateful I actually wonder if maybe they have an actual demon or something because there's no other apparent reason for them to be that evil

[@raayvenwolfgirl5539]

I'm glad OP in story 2 was able to get their RV back, and ditch their horrible ex on his parents all in one fell swoop. How he was acting about the RV, like it was -his- brand new toy, not OP's threw a lot of huge red flags. Glad OP is safe, and hope she gets to travel to wonderful places while she writes. That just sounds lovely.

[@alexisgrunden1556]

Better still that her STBX in-laws recognize that Tim is a POS and that she's the victim; too many times, they try to blame the betrayed spouse instead of the cheater, and make the BS feel _guilty_ for being upset.

[@BNezzy]

she had a roommate relationship with her husband in regards to finances and possessions. How did she expect her relationship to end? lol

[@raayvenwolfgirl5539]

@@BNezzy You are allowed to have split assets as a married couple. We are humans, not Anglerfish. Just because you get married doesn't make everything you own/are the other persons. Stop enabling man-children that throw tantrums when they can't have the biggest slice of cake, or in this case, an RV.

[@BNezzy]

Every country has their own marriage laws. Mine include that assets accumulated during marriage or assets brought into marriage that are used for the marriage are in fact joint assets and eligible for divorce proceedings. You can have the assets in you own name but if you get divorced they are eligible to be split. Heck in my country those assets are eligible after 3 years of a common law relationship even if you aren't married! I suggest you be less ignorant and more open minded.@@raayvenwolfgirl5539

[@TsukiKageTora]

My only thought for story 2’s prenup agreement was that he knew they were going to divorce because he’s probably planned to cheat even before he and OP got married. It wasn’t even a marriage, it was a “what’s yours is mine and what’s mine is still mine” relationship OP was manipulated into How else do you explain the fact he didn’t even bother saying sorry to OP rather than just his mom?

[@bribri2925]

Omg I thought the same thing! What’s yours is mine and what’s mine is also mine… and not yours. To be honest tho, I NEVER suspected cheating, just a lack of respect for his wife, maybe some superiority classist bull crap and narcissism. He only showed that passive aggressiveness after she got some money, according to OP. I was flabbergasted.

[@MrJpaynebb]

He's apologizing to his mom because he lost face in front of her. I would also bet that even though Tim has property and money from his family mom still has a good amount of assets that Tim is hoping to inherit one day.

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@MrJpaynebb didn’t he already inherit something?

[@GDMendezWrites]

@@TsukiKageTora they mentioned that but were suggesting Mom might have MORE he might want. Considering he's greedy enough to try to cheat on his wife by using his wife's RV, I wouldn't put it past him.

[@MrJpaynebb]

@@TsukiKageTora yes but mom is still alive. She has her own assets.

[@momshardrockvideos]

Story1: go no contact. You will never win. It is time you leave til he gets HIS shit together. How can you even justify raising your daughter around someone like her. Your mil will only treat her the same way she treated her son. If your husband chooses to condone this behavior that’s on him. Have respect for yourself and leave for now.

[@julianne089]

I’m just halfway in the Tim-RV story and I just wish she’d use that iPad to take a video of him driving and harping on her and send it to the ex gf! Lol so she can see what an attractive catch she’s getting

[@laurenevers8644]

Ooh, I like the way you think! 😁

[@joycec8]

I didn't even get to that part yet and I was like "Oh he's absolutely cheating."

[@brycekline982]

Story 2 I remember a similar story where there was a prenup and the hubby got caught. His family disinherited him and left everything to her. She was able to get the prenup tossed out because of the cheating clause. Doesn't pay to cheat

[@tailsimp]

OP keeping calm like that after the discovery is the sort of self control I dream of having one day

[@larslionheart]

Telling it to his mom was a beautiful fucking move. Well played OP, well played.

[@randomusername3873]

Op "Me and my fiance welcoming and kind to a person that abused him and constantly brags about abusing him" MIL *turns out to be abusive Op "I don't understand what happened😳"

[@sadraccoonboy]

Aside from the rest of the story I’m so jealous op2 has made success with romance writing and Etsy. Those are like,,, the two things I want to do most I love writing and making stuff. Jealous in a ‘you’re my idol’ kind of way what a legend

[@Shaytan.666]

I think you meant admiration or am I wrong? 😅

[@libertyblake873]

Story 2: RV was bought to be a traveling office for OP, which she can declare as expenses on her taxes. Why does hubby want a traveling bed without his wife in it.

[@shellchenonceau6987]

Story 1: many of us had to experience how futile it is to try to "please" a sociopath or a psychopath. Futile. Do not waste your time.

[@Buff_Helpy]

Story 2: •hears mark get so mad he says the F word• "THE HILLS ARE ALIVE WITH THE SOUND OF MUUUUUSIC!"

[@AndyyWithAY]

Story 2 Why did you get married?? This tidbit sounds like hell and I'm sure this is just the surface. He's upset that OP is doing well financially. He wanted to upperhand.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Probably cause the ex was an ex cause she wanted to get married but wasn’t going to sign a prenup, so he found someone to marry that will while all the while planning to cheat on them with the said ex

[@AndyyWithAY]

@@TsukiKageTora sounds legit to me.

[@brigidtheirish]

OP's a romance writer. The genre is built around idealizing toxic relationships.

[@BruinPhD2009]

In stories like the first one, I’m always amazed at the FAMILY MEMBERS who are clearly looking at a toxic individual, yet chose to believe and go along with the things said and done by that individual. OP mentions the relatives who were cool to her after hearing listening to the BS from MIL. Are people that afraid of finding themselves on the receiving end of such vitriol? Is that why they give in? Second story. Maybe I’m too suspicious, but as soon as STBX Husband started making a fuss about driving the RV, the cheater flags came out. Glad OP isn’t one of those people to put up with that nonsense. Good for her!

[@pippo17173]

Its a RV and I hate to rely on gender norm stereotypes but don't usually men get this to have on the go love trips for women? Ya him going all ranty about it just gave that indication.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@pippo17173 That is the stereotype, and stereotypes get to be stereotypes for a reason. On the other hand, my brother-in-law got an RV *with* my sister because his parents live on the other side of the country and it'd theoretically be easier and cheaper to drive there in an RV than having to stop at motels. Ended up being a pain in the ass because they didn't take into account what driving it in *winter* would be like. Anyway, my cheater flags went up when OP mentioned how much time he spends away on trips to rental properties *and his family WITHOUT OP.*

[@ToxicSunrise132]

Story 2: Hmm, and OP's a writer? She should make Tim a villain in her next novel. Maybe the protagonist finds out her ex husband was cheating on her, so she makes it her business to sleep with his worst enemies in revenge and finds true love in the process? She could even work the RV in, make it a cross-country road trip of love! (Not how I'd get even personally, but you have to work with genre constraints and I bet it's grind Tim's gears)

[@ginathecookie]

Go comment this on reddit for OP!! It's a great idea and I want this as a novel 😍

[@Pastel_Dreams]

2nd Story: It's been a hot minute since I heard this one. Nice to see OP won out in the end. That Pre-nup was a godsend

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

I was so upset at the first line of Story 2! OP gets an RV for herself and husband decides it’s _his_ new toy!

[@KarmikCykle]

Doing nice things doesn't "win over" abusers, it doesn't "get on their good side". It reinforces their behaviors.

[@smarieisme8009]

Mom in law is obviously just jealous because despite the fact that you are a brand new mom, you are already a way better mom.....and she knows it. Green eyed monster in law! So fun!

[@fhuber7507]

2.... 15:19 OP should immediately at that point in the story call the cops and report grand theft auto. And not drop the charges for any reason.

[@OZARKMOON1960]

OP needs to go on and live her best life and keep ex's mom updated on how she is doing. Best revenge is a life well spent. Also, I want her nom de plume so I can buy her books and help her have more $$ to rub into his selfish face!

[@Donald43]

Story 2: Tim isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught.

[@shebakoby]

Story 2: calling it now. It's not about the Iranian Yogurt. My guess is Tim is cheating on OP on his 'business trips'. EDIT: CALLED IT (though carnal knowledge had not yet occurred). Tim's reaction to being caught is giving me narcissist vibes and OP is way better off without him.

[@pippo17173]

I hate to just rely on stereotypes but the RV has a clear indication of him wanting it for a sex spree with his ex. I swear cheating has so many fucking obvious signs that its not even funny.

[@shebakoby]

@@pippo17173 yeah, i'm surprised OP didn't cotton onto it sooner.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@shebakoby She didn't cotton on to *anything* about him up until this point because she's a romance writer and toxic relationships are *idealized* in that genre.

[@stillvisibletoallusers]

@@brigidtheirish very true.

[@shebakoby]

@@brigidtheirish that tracks.

[@hm5468]

I KNEW HE WAS GONNA CHEAT ON HER with that RV!

[@MF-mn4vx]

S2: What a happy ending. Someone with a spine

[@melissaclark1051]

Last story had me thinking of the woman that was murdered while travelling with her boyfriend

[@PeterShipley1]

the RV needs security cameras

[@επιθετικόακτινιδιο]

St2: we all knew what Tim s true intentions were. Kudos to OP for not taking BS and for being determined and fast in taking action

[@owl7072]

Gonna listen to this while doing some yoga 🤸🏻 Edit: The amount of times my cat insisted on pets while I was in the middle of certain poses that required both hands lmao I love her though and she still got them so all is well

[@toysruskid5074]

I had a cat who'd wait til your hands were busy so he could get a good face rubbing. Elbows in dishes? Purr purr rub rub happy cat face in mine. Assembling furniture? Rub rub purr purr. Lifting furniture? Guess who's on top? Purr rub purr rub

[@owl7072]

@@toysruskid5074 yeah that sounds kinda like mine as well lmao, and she's got the little "pity me" meow and expression down to a T despite being the most spoiled cat you'll ever see (at least in terms of what I can afford)

[@ginathecookie]

That's adorable I wish I had a cat but until I can look after myself, my house and a pet I'll have to settle for adorable stories. May I ask what she looks like? Is she fluffy? 😁

[@raptoress6131]

Story 2: hope OP atleast got some ideas for her next novel.

[@BottledWitch]

Im glad OP in story two confronted him at his mother's instead of alone for her own safety.

[@runawayfromtoads674]

I'm burning the midnight oil again to make dumplings again-this time for lunch with my partner's family tomorrow. Nice to have your videos as per usual, Mark!

[@vickimoss1943]

Thanks for keeping me smiling while I’m sick! It definitely helps make it all more bearable.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Get well soon m8🤗🤗💜💜

[@amberleeannalee1999]

Sending healing thoughts and energy. Much love Blessed be

[@synren2851]

Get well soon!

[@melissasaint3283]

This sounds like a potential personality disorder. My ILs had a lot of issues,and overlaps about 50% with this. DH went full no contact when it became clear they were going to abuse and manipulate our infants and try to turn them against us and each other. "I can't go back and protect myself, but I need to protect them. The cycle of abuse stops with me" He said.

[@jofip9199]

I have a confession: I subscribed like two months ago and I watched so many of your videos, like years old videos. If this wasn’t the Internet I would have restraining order lmao but I love having this while doing other things, specially playing the sims

[@Cheri8795]

It made me laugh when Mark related the nefarious purposes to Breaking Bad. I love his sense of humor and personality. He seems like such a genuinely good, caring person. That is what made me such a big fan of his channel. About the stories, I'm so glad that the abusive MIL will not be near the baby. Plus I'm glad that the other OP get to keep her RV. I think it would be awesome to have one. The amount of stress relief it would provide is huge! To always have a place to live that nobody can kick you out of, on top of being able to travel and experience life is amazing!! I wish her all the best. Have a great day/night everyone!!

[@devchekhov7512]

Story 1: OP didn't grow a spine, she just hid.

[@gcarr1089]

Story , 2 - he works away a week at a time, he has already cheated on Op. The ex was just going to be the latest one

[@astronautviolet153]

story :1 Op need to put down strong boundaries or go No contact, especially with mother in law could be a danger to Opie and the baby.

[@JanetVargas-nx4mt]

Would love to have an update on the RV story to see how it ultimately all worked out. Praying OP is having her best life.

[@kathleenmcfarlane2555]

Story 2: OP needs to leave her selfish and abusive husband. What's his is his and what's her's is his. I think husband had plans to travel with an affair partner. That's why he is so ticked.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Don't worry. She IS leaving him. Got a good divorce lawyer and everything. (⁠◠⁠‿⁠◕⁠)

[@BritInvLvr]

Story one. Geez. I wonder how it feels to treat people like crap and have them thank you and ask for more? I could never be the giver or receiver of such abuse. Story two. OP is a bad ass.

[@melissawineka6954]

OP in the last story shoulduse this as an opportunity to write a novel.

[@hellhog3252]

Story 1 worries me. It was a good move for her to set more boundaries and cut contact with her MIL. But what about the husband? It would worry me that he never had to really change an was only ever all words but no action. An now he doesn’t *have* to change. So what if MIL comes back? Will he fold again or will he actually stand up for his family instead of jus bein mad behind closed doors?

[@brigidtheirish]

I'm not convinced she actually set *any* boundaries *or* cut contact with MIL. Maybe talked about it with hubby, but sounds like MIL decided to move pretty fast. The question is *why.* She probably spun it as her having been driven out by OP to the rest of the family, but why move to a place where she couldn't partake in two of her key vices? Try to make herself look like a saint to the rest of the family with this "self-improvement?" Anyway, I'm *quite* sure the distance won't matter much. She'll guilt OP's fiance into visiting her often or sending her money. She'll keep wearing him down and pressing all the buttons she installed in his psyche. And he won't change, either. Any time OP wants something, he'll be reminded of his mother. He'll resent her. He'll resent his daughter. He'll give in to her every demand, but will turn passive-aggressive about it.

[@PrincessLioness]

@@brigidtheirish Both op and her husband have no spines. I feel sorry for their child.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@PrincessLioness Same. That kid is going to become a spoiled *monster.*

[@hellhog3252]

@@brigidtheirish I want to say there’s no way he would resent his wife/child like that just from manipulation from him mother but I’ve seen enough of my own friends get mad at their girlfriends and SO’s that I can’t even lie to myself like that. Some folks just choose the easier option like shifting blame and not wanting to face the real issue (in this case his mother and the decades of abuse/trauma that I’m sure he hasn’t dealt with properly) that I have to agree. The lack of willpower in this couple makes me incredibly sad for their daughter who is going to see this type of behavior and think it’s normal to treat/be treated this way. Sad all around

[@brigidtheirish]

@@hellhog3252 Incredibly sad. And I *wish* I could be shocked.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Hey you yes you remember to take care of yourself gosh darn it, you are always valid, and I love you and care about you so please take care of yourself 💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗

[@sugarshamrock]

In the second story I would give OP the advice to think about how much she enjoys his company and it obvious he doesn't enjoy her company.

[@AutumnLeafdust]

Wooo catching up has been fun. Currently trying to draw stuff for my currently delayed prompts for Inktober alternatives, which has been fun, but a struggle! Motivation's a pain lol

[@riley6740]

Second story. I would be spending all the money she made for a home for herself and give some money to the lawyers. Make him pay for the lawyers during the divorce. He can claim that money in the divorce, but if she has already spent it, then there’s no money for him to take.

[@deedeeschway9566]

Story 1 - why do people expect narcissists to change? Why do you expect them to care about your feelings? If they don’t give a damn about their own child, why do you think they’d treat you or your child any different? Some people think only narcissists or sociopaths don’t understand the feelings of others, but people who are super-empathetic like “people-pleasers” also don’t seem to realize that others don’t feel the same range of emotions they do. Some of them can’t seem to grasp that others simply don’t give a shit.

[@imajinallthepurple]

Story 2: Yearh, unfortunately I can relate to this one. I found mails similar to those while my ex-husband and I were in effing therapy to repair the marriage! Well, that ended abruptly since that's an immediate deal breaker for me. So OP definitely has my sympathy 'cause that truly is a horrible feeling. 💔

[@Logitah]

I don't understand how OP in story 2 could be so calm right after finding out. If I try to be calm when I'm furious, I become eerily monotonous and robotic.

[@jennstewart3003]

Story 1: hubby needs raised by narcissists.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Whoever is reading this i send hugs and great vibes. Drink water, eat food, nap, take a break, take care of yourself gosh darn it. And if you don't I swear I will find you and keep you in a cottage and take care of you. 🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜

[@vickimoss1943]

Thanks. I will try. I have the flu.

[@brandygiovinazzi3460]

🤗🤗💜💜 back to you and take care of yourself as well!

[@ZikedY]

Don't forget the most important thing, eat cheese. Also have a good night

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@vickimoss1943 oh no I'm sorry hope you get well soon 🤗🤗💜💜

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@brandygiovinazzi3460 I'll try and you too🤗🤗💜💜

[@Silence-1170]

Hi waffles! Hope all of you have a great afternoon! Stay safe and stay positive!

[@Perishingflesh]

Have a great day!

[@macylouwho1187]

It can so incredibly hard to cut off an abusive parent-especially if they are your only active bio parent, the guilt is tremendous. I go through this daily. I had an extremely abusive mother in almost every way imaginable. She also went through personal hell to keep me and herself alive when everyone else abandoned her. She got kicked out, left by my bio father who ran off like a chicken. She was literally out on the streets and friends took her in temporarily until she found a job that housed and fed her during pregnancy working for an elderly woman who needed an in home carer. Everyone tried to get her to abort me but she refused, opted to instead to be kicked out into the street by her parents with nothing. She also saved my life again when I was in second grade at great personal risk. Our tiny run down trailer home (the best she could afford as a single mother with no child support and a man who ran off on her after getting her pregnant) caught on fire. I was at the back, cut off from her by a burning hallway. The fire started in the heater unit wiring and my bedroom was next to it. I could not wake up-the heat and smoke had me in some sort of deep sleep from which I could not come out of. I felt drugged. All I knew was the feeling of being yanked up off the floor roughly with my mom screaming bloody murder at the top of her lungs. She threw me over her shoulder and ran me down the burning hall as it was the only way in or out. I was so disoriented, hanging upside down with my head banging against her back as she ran and I could just see this surreal view of the walls on fire around us as she ran through a literal fire tunnel to save my life. Her skin got burned. Her hair burned, her eyebrows have a very slight melty skin look to them and the eyebrow hair never grew back in fully the rest of her life. That was from running through a fiery inferno to save her only child. She tried to save our cat but she got scared and ran to hide. The fire was now into the living room where our only exit door was. She had to get us out and she tried to go back in to get the cat but the cat ran down a crack in the back of the cupboards and she couldn’t reach her. And the door frame was now on fire and she had to leave or risk getting trapped herself. If you know anything about trailers-they burn down fast and furiously. It took everything we owned but the clothes on our back. I sat across the street crying knowing that my beautiful fluffy white kitty burned up in the fire. I watched the wall burn down in the kitchen and watched the refrigerator melt and drip down like melting chocolate. Firefighters put out what they could but a fire that hot smolders and keeps burning things up. Everything was gone. But my mom saved me. She’s saved my life twice at great personal cost and regardless of how terrible she was otherwise my heart can’t let me say goodbye forever. It’s too hard. I feel like I owe her too much. I’ve tried to repay it by housing her in my rental property free of charge (she pays the property tax only). Even if she’s not talking to me and very mentally ill and won’t medicate or change-at least she has a safe roof over her head.

[@lorifiedler13]

RV - When he goes somewhere without OP, she should drive off without him. If he usually flies and gets a rental, he can do so again. Then contact a lawyer and consider the options. Maybe get a storage unit, check with local farms of possible, and don't let hubs know where it or the keys are located. Have a friend or taxi take you so he can't track your car. Check phone frequently for Spyware. Good luck.

[@rickraber1249]

For those of you who have an abusive in-law or relative, know this: they only live to do you harm. You will NEVER be able to please them. The harder you try, the more hateful they will act toward you. They have a mental and moral sickness that you cannot fix. Distance yourself from them, and keep your loved ones away from them.

[@carrissa8867]

Story 1 the son is trauma bonded to his mum this happened to me too even though your mum is abusive you crave there love and acceptance very sad

[@govsecret536]

OP heard about all the abuse she put her fiance through, and now, what, she wants a front row seat? Jesus.

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 2: OP should've abandoned her soon to be ex-husband before they got to his mother's place at some gas station in the middle of nowhere with all his shit in those trash bags and then she should've made that phone call with his mother. I doubt his mom would be speeding there to pick him up based on how she reacted when OP actually informed her of her son's scheduled adultery!

[@bun04y]

I think that the EX had the keys. She mentioned that he wouldn't allow her to drive and that she had to wrestle the keys out of him in the end.

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

@@bun04y That's why she should've waited for a stop, so she could make an excuse to keep the RV running whilst he went inside. Then all she had to do was lock the door and begin the purging of his luggage. Even if he got back in time to see her start tossing his stuff out the door then she could resort to pushing the rest out the windows and then drive off.

[@pietroangelillo5602]

Whooohooo, congrats on the 100k Mark!!!

[@amandastout1948]

OP #2 is a QUEEN!

[@mpmansell]

Story 2. OP has an RV and works from home. If not already resident in one, she needs to 'move' to a state with at fault divorces before divorcing him and claiming that she believes he intended to cheat, and probably already has (get evidence?) And use this to get the prenup invalidated :)

[@SkyEcho751]

Story 1: A case where you need to set up walls and boundaries, and where you let nothing stay private when calling out the lies and slander the narcissist makes. Story 2: There is "Hot Rage" and "Cold Fury", Hot rage burns bright but usually stops after a little while. But Cold Fury, that can stick around for a while, and can be much more destructive to the target(s) of said Fury.

[@phionella7]

In story one, if that woman's in laws choose to believe her mother-in-laws views of DIL, she's lucky she knows you the trash is and she doesn't have to deal with them anymore

[@Lindasims733]

I didn’t understand why if Tim had so much money including an inheritance and made OP sign a prenup. Why didn’t he buy his own RV if he was so in love with them. None of it made sense

[@AndyyWithAY]

WTF! Why would you try to hold a newborn without washing your hands under any circumstances. Especially during this frikkin panini. Makes me furious 🤬

[@brigidtheirish]

1: Why would OP even *want* a friendship with someone who *bragged* about child abuse? The stories made OP sick to her stomach? Obviously not sick enough to keep her from coming back for more. OP also doesn't seem to realize that her fiance *hasn't* forgiven his mom, he's been *programmed* by her. She's the *worst* kind of naive. She *sees* the abuse and *willingly* walked into it. "Because I know she hates me now, I've worked even HARDER to be on her good side and make her comfortable." She might as well be waving a sign reading "please abuse me, I'll kick myself to make it easier for you." Nice that the fiance stands up for OP, but that he can do that, calls her a "stupid child," and *still* bows and scrapes to her every whim just makes him *disgusting* to me. Ladies, always look at how your boyfriends treat and talk about their moms. That's how they'll treat and talk about *you* one day. That he considers he a "child" also means his treatment of his mother is a reflection of what he's going to be as a *parent.* The poor baby, being raised by professional doormats who would sacrifice her on the altar of abuse to appease her monstrous grandmother. Update: So OP accomplished nothing, MIL moved for whatever reason (probably told everyone she was 'drive out'), and the rest of the in-laws hate OP. I am *nowhere* near as optimistic about this as OP is as *nothing has been resolved.* I hate to think what kind of spoiled, unstable brat they're going to turn their daughter into. 2: "Just to note, this is the first time that an issue like this has come up in our marriage." I *highly* doubt that. "I've been writing romance novels since I was in college." Stop. That's the problem right there. Twilight and the adult equivalents with Fabio look-a-likes holding a dazed or drugged woman on the covers take the *worst,* most *disordered* relationships and try to make them into some twisted ideal because "love." And OP *writes* this trash. Well, congratulations, OP, you got yourself Lord Byron without the poetry. I'd ask how it never struck OP as odd that he'd visit family without her, but she's a romance writer. He's also "brutally honest." (inner rage at OP's stupidity) Right, out comes the megaphone. *OP'S HUSBAND IS AN ABUSIVE JACKASS WHO'S USING THESE FREQUENT "BUSINESS TRIPS" TO GET SOME PUSSY!* Update: Well, at least OP had some class in how she disposed of the trash. Really says something that he apologized to his *mom* and not *OP.* I *guarantee* this isn't the first time he's cheated.

[@poohbear4515]

I hate hearing stories like OP in the first one, when their so weak and allow others to just trample over them, and not even have a damn spine to say anything. This made me so disappointed in her when mommy dearest told her numerous nightmares of abuse without a word about it. Then allowing her to just trash her reputation and daughter, not even trying to do anything at all. Seriously, I feel very bad for the baby girl growing up with no one to protect her at all, not even her father, but more of her weak, spineless mother.

[@dodgyyoutuber9560]

Story 1: It’s not over…

[@AndyyWithAY]

I recently got into Breaking Bad and was thinking the same Mark 🤣

[@ellorasg4525]

Story 1: WTF happened to your common sense OP?

[@marydewitt9623]

Exactly!

[@Negasilver]

Congrats on 100k dude

[@browniewin4121]

1) OP's husband needs to stop trying to get love form someone who is incapable of it, and OP needs to stop trying to please this horrible person. Go NC, MIL adds nothing positive to their lives and would be damaging to their child. After update: So glad MIL has gone away and OP and her husband will be free of her physical presence. 2) I'm so glad OP has done well for herself financially. It's too bad her husband is being so greedy and grabby about the RV and refusing to accept it's original purpose for the one who bought it. If he wants one for his business trips he should buy his own. He is being awful, absolutely awful, he is selfish and showing no love or respect for his wife. Does he have a side-piece and wife is throwing a monkey wrench into the works? After update: Not surprised by what OP found out. He is such a 2 faced POS. I'm so glad OP dumped him and left him at his mother's and that MIL is on her side. Happy divorce is going to make him her X.

[@east-endjustice7883]

Who would even want a "handle of whiskey a day infinite cigarette" even in their lives at all, much less one that is like this? Op's husband mudt be so embarrassed and worry people think he is the product of "professional hazard/workplace accident".

[@xsapphirex136]

Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought it breaking bad when they mentioned the RV

[@ProdigyAngel33_Nagichan]

Posted 1 min ago lol clicked so fast. Looking forward to todays stories.

[@clairebear-96]

Ngl I was with Mark on the Breaking Bad thoughts when that one comment on story 2 was talking about nefarious things he could be doing 😂😂 I was like “ooh yes he’s out there making drug deals behind her back” 💀

[@CouncilEstateRach]

22:00 ... and this is why we love you Mark...... i would have been exactly the same ehen i was younger, id take people DOWN....but with age, children and depression i lost my wild temper that i usef to have for defending the weak, bullied and myself. But yeah, id be the same, the mutha flucker ....

[@freecountry3544]

MIL in story 1 has some things in common with my mother. I think you can't try to control or manipulate your husband to be the person you want. My mother stopped drinking when my niece and nephew moved to my cou try. Believe it or not, people often behave terribly after they quit also, because the pain is being felt for the first time in years.

[@battyrae1398]

i wonder if that prenup has a cheating clause.....

[@TheLegacyDan]

Good news is, she can travel around the country after the divorce and find the perfect locations to write in.

[@MrsJones19]

Happy Friday everyone!

[@balindaleague4721]

Story one went through the same thing with my mother n law only because of my mother who cheated on my dad so she thought i'd do that never mine if you grow up with that and it hurt's you ,you know how it feels so you don't want to do this to any one but she didn't see this all she seen was her baby getting hurt . For years i went though this when she past way i finally got some rest from it and peace and the rest of the family treated me great , she just keep the pot stired when she was alive now it's a great life.

[@ec9833]

Story 1… I don’t know a sing,e person, nor met a single person, who hasn’t had trauma in their story. Truly, I’ve never met anyone where early trauma didn’t follow the patterns into their current lives. I have my own story, my elders have theirs & im just constantly depressed over the human race and how screwed up we are and yet can’t blame too many ppl, directly as this is all born of itself. Someone like OP is relatable, pre-high efficacy therapy and it kills me. Oooof. We’ll continue to bring more children into these situations, continue. Or to realize what’s happening until it’s too late or ever, until humanity changes. All anyone can do is keep trying to educate themselves and do better…hopefully things take a turn for our species soon.

[@susanlosey9511]

Story #1: You cannot reason or talk to an alcoholic. The best thing to do is go no contact with her. She will just tear you guys down. You guys need therapy. You and the baby are threats to her.

[@WabbitHunter68]

The first story - she think things have ended, no, this is just a temporary lull in hostilities. When she comes back, and she will, she'll just start her hate campaign again.

[@fcold9402]

1. Mom is projecting. She did not care about her son one wit when she was with a new man so she assumes her son does not care a wit about her when he is with a new girl (it will also include your kid btw, anything that diverts attention from her).

[@honeypot8524]

Story 1: NTA, there is no "he moved on to another woman" because she was never his woman, she is his MOTHER!!! like WTF!!!

[@rachaelclark8465]

Story 1, You need to get a lawyer/restraining order. You/daughter doesn't deserve her abuse. If your husband/her son doesn't want to do anything, then you have to.

[@SMey54]

Re: RV. I’d boot hubby out at the destination, then return home and change the locks.

[@baskervillebee6097]

If MIL is going around town drunk and bad mouthing the new mom, people realize who she is and won't believe. A young couple where the young man works hard and volunteers for the fire department? Oh please.