My first time on ADHD meds // Ep 42 - Pretty Lonesome with Madeline Argy

[@fizsonline]

watching this podcast has made me feel so seen. us people with adhd have dreams and goals but we just have an illness that makes it so much harder and it feels like no one understands. its so much more serious than people make it out to be.

[@rachelhahaha]

why this is so true😂

[@a73426]

This podcast is the reason I went to my psychiatrist at 20 years old and asked to be evaluated for ADHD. I thought there was something inherently wrong with me, I hated myself for not being able to get up, and then I heard you describe me better than I ever could while describing yourself. Sure enough, I have RAGING ADHD and I'm now on a stimulant. Still working on dosages, but without listening to your episode about ADHD, I would have kept continuing to chalk it up to my depression and anxiety and wondering why nothing was helping. I understand myself now and am able to give myself grace because I know I'm not lazy or incapable - my brain just works differently, and I don't think I can ever describe how this saved me.

[@lilaeuler7368]

you explained your whole summer camp experience perfectly it was so easy to visualizing everything. and you look beautiful imo

[@septembersage6438]

mads i'm the same as u I literally have put off getting adhd meds after being diagnosed nearly 2 years ago, and i'm nearly 22. I've decided to finally get them & i really have needed them, I've been falling behind at uni and I just know it's gna change my life. Thanks for influencing me , the real influencer :)

[@Emmapemex1414]

Be careful w them, pros and cons

[@sage.yoursolace]

19:50 "she was from colorado, how much cooler can you really get" OML that made my heart melt i am literally from colorado my heart has melted, best thing ive ever heard esp from one of my favorite people I LOVE YOU MADELINE 💗 ik u weren't talking about me but like 😭😭 love uu🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@taybaharnold9708]

Awww u so sweet ❤ much love 🥰🫶

[@VictoriaNace-f4e]

Ur so real for this whole entire podcast. Telling us what’s happening with medicine, dating, etc in real time and being so vulnerable. You don’t have to take medication every day, see if there’s times when you genuinely need to rest and not adhd rest where you feel bad about it. But like take something during the week and then take the weekend off and spa or have fun!!! Xo!

[@Teresaterriwelch]

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.

[@Sami-cy4yj]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable s0urce here in Australia. Really need!

[@labandalatinband]

Yes, blizmyco. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

[@RobRyan1]

Is he on instagram?

[@labandalatinband]

Yes he is. blizmyco

[@javiermarcu]

Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episode, enough to start working on my mental health.

[@jeffreyzucker.6819]

I just wanted to say thank you for inspiring me to get the help i needed for school! this episode literally explained most of the things i feel got me to go and get tested for adhd, and now i’m doing better in school with a diagnosis!

[@SabrinaDiLiello]

Diagnosed at 21 here!! My first day of adhd meds I got out of bed, made a full breakky and cleaned my house😭 I’m telling you my life has been saved because of my meds. I was also so anti meds, I even put off taking them for 6 months when I had them from fear. I was at my lowest when I took them and BAM. It’s been 2 years on them only gone up 10mg in it, and grades improved, mood improved, energy up, quality of life improved. I actually feel like I can be functional. I will say you will see side effects after a few days-week as your body stabilizes on them. I still get days where I can’t get out of bed from adhd paralysis. As well as not everyday is going to be a good day on them. Some mornings I feel like my adhd is worse despite still taking my meds. It of course is not a save all. But if you start implementing healthy habits alongside them, you will notice your symptoms of adhd will be a little more manageable!! Also tip, try to eat food along side taking them, even forcing yourself to have an egg, or whatever, after 45 minutes of taking mine and I haven’t ate I get nausea/puke and foods becomes disgusting 😭) also not a scientist or doc) but protein mornings (helps brain process your release of meds better), also avoid Vitamin C within an hour-2 hours of taking stimulant meds. It for some reason affects the strength of your meds being released!! ❤️❤️

[@girlbythewillow]

I’m 20 years old and started medication 12 months ago- my life has changed so significantly. The first 3-4 months was a lot of changing medications and doses, but I literally could not believe how simple certain things like putting clothes away or phone calls became. There were days in the beginning I felt so wired and over energised but it does wear off! My hottest tips: (for anyone) - EAT BREAKFAST !! You will thank yourself by around 4pm - try to get up and moving before it kicks in, or identify what it is you need to do for the day, because you might get LOCKED IN to something SO RANDOM. Sometimes it’s helpful like cleaning something you’ve been putting off for ages but other times it’s like, you’ll be doing your nails for over an hour or something lol. - be weary around caffeine.. I consume it now and feel okay but there have been times I’ve felt cracked - avoid taking medication the day after drinking: maybe it’s my own experience or I was drinking too much but the first few months I had would get heart palpitations or just feel so fkin weird - DRINK WATER omg - apparently (and I still don’t know if this is a myth or what lol) but vitamin C specifically oranges or orange juice lessens the effects? - CAREFUL YOU DONT ACCIDENTALLY DOUBLE DOSE. Holy fuck I did this one time because I FORGOT I had taken my medication- ended up in a medical tent thinking I would die - practice affirmations in telling yourself that heart palpitations or a racing heart do not indicate certain death. Obviously if it’s every day that’s another story but there likely will be moments of panic, these moments are manageable so long as you’re equipped with deep breaths and a belief that you will be okay. - you’re not reeeallly meant to drink on the medication, but if you do, BE SO CAREFUL AND SLOW WITH IT. The effects of the alcohol will take TWICE AS LONG to kick in as they would without the meds. You will not feel it coming, keep drinking to get silly, and then BANG you’re plastered. This kicked me in the fucking arse in the first 3-4 months. So happy for you Mads! It’s a journey but god it is so worth it for so many people. ☺️☺️xx

[@cats10101]

hi can i ask what medication you took and how you got it prescribed? im also 20 and i get tired very very quickly and can't focus for shit (i disassociate alot). ill try to follow ur tips !! thank you

[@immortelfe]

this episode was really entertaining. thank you madeline

[@annabelee22]

You are a personification of my mind and what it sounds like 24/7 😂 love you wishing you all the happiness and success in this world 🎉❤

[@sonnys.5075]

So happy for you Madeline! As someone who tried MANY adhd meds before finally finding the right combo, I would say it’s pretty normal to feel a bit wired (and to have other side effects) before your body adjusts! Give it at least a month and the wired feeling should go! They may have also started you on too high of a dose (some of us actually need children’s doses). Anyway good luck, sometimes it takes a few tries to find the right one but it’s life changing!!

[@pj5324]

Madz let the meds settle 😭😭 I just started taking Elvanse and for the first few days I was wired. I was put on 30mg then increased to 50mg but my heart rate was too high on the 50mg at all times. I’m now on 40mg and my heart rate is fine and I have all the energy in the world with no burnout :)

[@georgianamay5733]

I’ve always been so nervous to try adhd medication because you never know what might happen but this video has made me more open to trying it thank you so much .

[@jayleafarncombe7670]

this is insanely relatable

[@ashhhley31]

omg thank uuu for dropping the horse riding lore!!😭 i enjoyed hearing u talk about ur work experience at the camp madz, it was very interesting to hear. literally ate my cereal while watching ur pd on my tv 💀love youuu

[@sparklpie]

you are pretty regardless of the makeup like in a soul level

[@kristinmiller4264]

Clean and declutter when you have all the energy so you have less things to clean when you run out of energy.

[@kristinmiller4264]

I tell myself I'm doing a favor for future me.

[@kezziahhh]

omg ur on meds 😭😭 pleasee make sure to drink and eat enough because genuinely when I started adhd meds I felt terrible and it literally forced me to confront my eating habits bc I was constantly dizzy and nauseous😩 but I’m good now and it’s acc really helpful

[@cansel-bahar]

how long do you have been on the meds is it adderall or ritalin ?

[@kezziahhh]

@@cansel-bahar I’ve tried both concerta and vyvanse, personally I found both fine and it’s been about 6 months

[@earthtoskye4605]

I just found you on Spotify & had to follow you here too because I LOVE the convo & the vibes. I am always in my car, love being alone & have been on ADHD medication for about a year now - on & off. I have been searching for a good, realistic, self care podcast & I am so glad I stumbled across your page! 💞

[@michellegedzius]

We love an active queen🤲🏼

[@madisonrendallll]

first ep that ive watched and im hooked brb gonna binge watch all of them

[@SydneyPope]

Same ❤❤❤

[@ximena-y1d]

OMG WE ARE LITTERALLY THE SAME I LOVE YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS I FEEL SO SEEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@alexisbxbyy8602]

I’m proud of you madz, your doing better for yourself and making good choices!💕

[@Sofia-n7b5x]

Facing your fears is a STRONG and terrifying thing to do, Kudos to you! ❤ Good luck and i hope the medication works for you.

[@ashley-4am]

Much happy for you, well done and congrats on making such positive changes! ~ 🥳❤So amaze to hear almost exactly my experience starting! same side effects but disappeared quickly. The reduced anxiety and energy is so mind blowing when you've never experienced it in your life before. Unfortunately i find still takes discipline and strats to stay on tasks, you're able to do the things but the meds dont know what the right things are. 🙃 It's so nice just being able to function in day to day tho. You're doing great! 🙏💕

[@lexxluuther]

i have a suggestion that seriously helps me. making lists of things that you can do the night before you take your meds and putting a little circle or box next to each so you can check them off. gives you set goals to focus on and you can add more as you go if you think of any and have the time for more! because i totally get getting lost in something that doesn't really need to be done and then the day is over with no real progress in productivity. you got this girl.

[@martalisabrondin9390]

Hope the medication works for you! Always good to give it a try! Be careful though they made me super paranoid

[@failsh1087]

thank you for sharing that I needed to hear from someone that tried a medication

[@London56798]

this is so relatable! i take ADHD stimulants, and PLEASE trial it for at least 1 month or 2, because you will get used to it. If it feels too controlling or too much, maybe consider lowering the dose. If you have trouble getting to sleep like I do when I'm on it, try taking some melatonin.

[@Mahaverse1337]

I’m happy for you! Wish u the best moving forward

[@newtshaped]

Yeah medication is touted as self care now which is insane and needs to be questioned. I was the same, gut instinct to stay away from medication, I succumbed to SSRIs and hated how they just made me apathetic, numb, dissociated. It's just like being zombie-mode! And they often exacerbate the symptoms they're meant to alleviate. A lot of our psychological issues and 'disorders' are symptoms of something deeper. It's not always helpful. It might help us be more efficient cogs in the machine of productivity tho

[@freejae3884]

Everything is a barrier between me and my lay down time. I felt this fr 😢

[@isabellelabbe6476]

Girly this is so me. I just took mine for the first time mid last week. First day I was like "wow I am so calm" and then by the 2nd day I started feeling wired as well. I learned not to take them at the same time as my coffee (oopsie) and am trying to cut coffee out so I don't have too much for stimulants but its a MISSION. Good luck!!

[@MelissaMalit]

Thank you for providing so much detail. I also have adhd and was on meds for a year and had a very similar reaction when it came to wanting to complete admin tasks. I didn’t like how I wasn’t as “thorough” when it came to projects I wanted to put more care into. It felt like I was being pushed/pressured/urged to finish all the time.

[@AmyElizabethFrith]

I love wilderness adventures . I've done so many with friends as well as solo with literally no itinerary for years , fully spontaneously . It's been amazing .

[@gavinbroughton]

Wow for the first time ever 0.75x speed is good on KZbin. Bless you. (No idea why the algorithm suggested this to me)

[@UnusSedLeo-w5l]

Yessss!

[@cydra_infinity1423]

You got him thinking he was getting arrested

[@hunterf6415]

I cannot relate to having ADHD. But I am someone who does live with depression, anxiety, and be sober from alcohol for years. I underestimated medicine at first, for I felt I just needed to take them for a few days and things will rebound, and boy I was wrong. I found out that you need to have these medicine just to live daily. I am glad you were able to get your medications.

[@Nooblet1999]

As somone who also got recently diagnosed and just started meds I'm so happy for you. BUT medication is not going to solve all the issues with adhd but it will definitely help you build the better habits and ROUTINE which is hard to do without the meds :)!!! Also heavily relate with your experiences and feelings lol XD

[@BiancaEliza-u6l]

MADZZZ WE LOVE U SOOO MUCH GIRL, u make our hearts happy 💞 🏹🪽💘

[@Silben_Trenner]

On spotting predators: I think Madeline attracts many unhealthy people because they notice her need of approval/ love and take advantage of that. Love and approve of yourself is the best thing you can do. Your wonderful intuition does the rest

[@sturn9olofilms]

Little late but I really relate to this hole episode and what’s funny right now is day 2 on adhd meds for me to and I have reacted the same to the feeling of the medicine! Love this

[@UnusSedLeo-w5l]

Ah, diagnosed. Perfect! Just never change.

[@hawaouuudiallo8728]

I got diagnosed with adhd but I doubted until I took the medication. And within 3 months I paid of all my debt, booked all appointment, got a better job and stopped binge eating .😂

[@caitlinkeenan-jones1803]

YES! Everything is a barrier to my lay down time

[@Kanjadile]

That sturniolo Collab gonna hit like crack

[@tjgh2764]

And having an folder with all Ur stuff is brokenly good, it Takes all the Chaos of Ur Life and makes at an ez to read, categorized book

[@chelseaputnam4456]

So cool that you have a friend from upstate NY! I’m from upstate, in Canton and now in Syracuse!

[@AmyElizabethFrith]

Oh ( my second comment ) and another great way to help cure anxiety is to get on the ground ( grass/ sand ) in bare feet , ( EARTHING / GROUNDING your energy ) ........ and sitting / laying / doing yoga on picnic blankets etc . I know it sounds so simple but Mother Earth is truly amazing . Sound Baths are also great ( sound healing with crystal singing bowls etc ) ........ yoga ....... meditation ..... I love Vipassana Meditation ( it takes ten days at a retreat and personally I find it to be so fun:)

[@NiteSaiya]

ADHD itself can cause medication aversion not only because it makes you forget to take your meds, but also because someone with ADHD that is hyperfocusing on something is strictly better at it than anyone else other than someone with savant syndrome. People with ADHD are often perfectionists and hard on themselves because they constantly compare themselves to when they're hyperfocusing. They think their hyperfocused self is the "real them" and that if they could only get their act together they'd be that way all of the time. That's unrealistic and hyperfocusing comes with real negative consequences, but it can also make someone less likely to take their ADHD medication because they may hyperfocus less while medicated, or think "if the meds don't make me hyperfocus why bother with them?" The truth is that stimulant medications are the most effective treatment by such a large margin that they're even the first recommendation for healthcare providers now. The old advice of using medication for a last resort and trying everything else first caused decades of suffering. The problem is that ADHD is adaptive. Any non-physical intervention will simply be adapted to. Once your circumstances or treatments cease to be novel, your ADHD will get bored of them and they'll lose effectiveness. Stimulant medications work on an epigenetic level in the brain. So ADHD cannot adapt to it. PS: Lots of great data from this guy, and his lectures are on youtube: www.russellbarkley.org/factsheets.html

[@Emmapemex1414]

Are they healthy long term tho??

[@Emmapemex1414]

I find the meds questionable solely for health reasons not their effectiveness

[@thomabow8949]

@@Emmapemex1414Are you under some presupposition that they are not healthy for long term usage?

[@Emmapemex1414]

@@thomabow8949 uhh yea haha and not just being paranoid, studies in primates have shown high dosages of adderall to reduce natural dopamine production ability (I can’t recall what the actual scientific language was, maybe it just kills the receptors or whatever would make logical sense). Not to mention many of the meds are one base away from meth lol

[@oculamcram]

@@Emmapemex1414have the same question…is it a dose problem? is it a substanze problem? is stress more unhealthy? idk

[@asyea]

18 secs is wild

[@onwindydays]

Right?😹

[@Sunset.1235]

Fr

[@lydiayvonne3859]

madz the fact that i got back onto adhd meds for the first time in 10 years... i feeel you

[@Cassie7879]

I felt the same the first week or so on ADHD stimulant meds. The first few days I was so wired and so full of energy, but over time this stabilises. Same with side effects, I only had side effects in the first week. Hopefully the same happens for you.

[@sybrichx]

I have always been afraid of medications, I still tried the adhd medication bc I wanted to know what it would do and tbh it changed my life for the better.

[@teeeeeee1708]

What medication is it do you mind me asking?

[@Emmapemex1414]

How long have u been on it?

[@sybrichx]

@@teeeeeee1708 I’m Dutch so its called Methylfendidaat, 10 mg. Maybe you can translate it?

[@sybrichx]

@@Emmapemex1414 I have been on it for a year now ☺️

[@sybrichx]

@@teeeeeee1708 The translation is methylphendidate, hope this helps.

[@yanaspage]

I just found you and you’re speaking to my soul, looking foward to your update xx

[@alevkaygusuz]

I really liked listening to this podcast because you really do seem more aware and more clear. I wish you all the best. I wish you could do more get ready with me’s and some other vlogs like driving around etc. skincare etc. And you look beautiful Madeline I think you’re so cute kiss you

[@elizabethcumberland8876]

got diagnosed with adhd in elementary school and didn't get put on stimulants until college and it changed my life. C's all high school because I had no motivation, now in college on stimulates and straight A's for 4 years. realized I wasn't dumb just needed to be medicated lol

[@A.S-Altuneiji]

You don’t need to do your hair and makeup ur sooo pretty i love u .💓💓💓💓

[@Rowdaalharthi]

FR SHE IS SO PRETTY 🫶🏻💗

[@XOAFRODITEXO]

I never have been so early and omg I know exactly how you feel ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE PAPERWORK and the motivation

[@Girafen]

I have the same "type" of adhd as you, but my psychiatrist put me on a non stimulant medication... I've been on it for almost 2 months and it's literally doing nothing other than taking away my appetite. I now eat like 1200 calories a day, which is definitely not healthy since the only things i can make myself eat without throwing up are unhealthy foods. I'm so frustrated

[@nobodyyoudontknow]

Her nails are so cute

[@The_BriefingRoom]

Proud of you madz! I love my admin job for my adhd. Love you

[@gabi-kd8nv]

i love that you made your presence known in the bunks after hearing them picking on another girl there, so many counselors and teachers let ts slide

[@333moon]

Happy for you ! But it doesn’t stay like that ,when you first take it the effects are obviously more intense. For me I was like that but now my body’s use to it it’s not as intense so trial it for a few months x

[@celynchann]

PRETTY GIRL❤

[@SafiaMaria-cq9ym]

Love u so much mads ❤

[@TeaganReece]

I feel this 10000% rocket

[@eyaioannidou]

next to the word yapper in the lexicon they have madelines picture and I wouldnt have it any other way. never stop pls.

[@SofaWrld]

I've been to one of these types of camps myself from the sounds of it, and the sleep deprevation experienced is real D'x

[@Madii2698]

Love you❤️ i love these long podcast✌️

[@watchagain6868]

I have been on ADHD medication for 15 years. Next year will not be the same as today. You are taking Vyvanse in US /Elvanse in UK most likely, same med I am taking for 10 year.

[@hamesh3474]

Medication or not mads is a ✨ star

[@myrtherdekker]

I was diagnosed with ADHD 2 years ago at 26 years old. I am hearing on Wednesday if I can start getting medication for it. I really hope so since I also have the "unmotivated couchpotato" type. It's not that I don't want to get things done, I just can't. Or, on the otherhand, I can clean the whole house, make a home cooked meal, do the laundry, workout, was my hair and run all the errands I was supposed to run in 1 freaking day. And afterwards I'm completely exhausted and overstimulated.

[@josie7526]

the answer to ‘double dosing’ short acting medication: yes most people take another dose during the day but a slightly smaller one because adhd meds have a half life, for example, i could take 15mg in the morning and then 10mg in the afternoon. but also i would consult your psychiatrist before doing anything!! andddd talk to her about getting on a long acting version so you don’t have to double dose xx rn im having to take my long acting meds then also take short acting in the afternoon because it wears off pretty quick for me. but remember it’s all a process (i’ve been on a few different kinds of meds over the past few years) and how medications work can change over time too so work with your psychiatrist and find what works for you!!❤

[@julaiyyy]

funny how this is exactly how i feel except I’m too scared to talk to anyone about it and I’ve got doctor’s and medication anxiety 😬

[@cdfanto6094]

You're really elegant. Seriously. And, your appropriations, like, the way you dress. Being honest, no pause, my favorite favorite place in London; so, going to the Thames, the Hyde, then, the bobby horses; they have stone walls at the stables. Grey, stone, no? I really miss, most amazingly beautiful horses. Anyways, you're very elegant.

[@RubyAngelBabe]

thank you mads! I can relate a bit especially with laying in bed all day and being frustrated with it. I got diagnosed with adhd recently (in my 20s) and have been too lazy to go get a blood test to get meds 😂

[@Spookylil_z]

Congrats madz!! Proud of you 🎉

[@strawberry.perfume]

This is the sign I needed to accept my OCD meds, it just better not take away my swag

[@MELTXXX]

do it , i have ocd, it changed my life, they work trust me

[@mayamaeda5204]

Loved this pod so much ❤

[@JDS001]

The thumbnail is me when I went on medication too 😆

[@kd_audios2484]

UNDER AN HOUR GANG 👇👇

[@Taka-fs6ch]

Comfotable for my ear to keep my English Easy to understand❤

[@someliberalartskid2438]

Doll, run! Hop out of the car, move at the speed your head is vibrating 😊 -- see if things slow down at to speed

[@eshanatiti1733]

SAME i literally forget to eat and pee pls be careful and remember to drink water

[@kie-q5o]

i usually wouldn't leave a comment, but i just couldn't help myself. after hearing your story i feel like im not the only one who feels like this and thats kind of nice, when i used to feel so alone. im 17 and i have been medicated for the last 2 years and im on summer break atm and i feel so empty bcs i just have nothing to do but i do still use my meds. i feel like i would be rotting in my bed if i don't use it, but i don't know if i feel better when i do take meds. it's just so complicated, but it makes me feel a little bit better seeing that i'm not the only one trying to figure this medication thing out. if someone knows what to do when you feel like this, pls lmk haha

[@user-ot7lj7tp2i]

Be careful that you dont loose more weight on the medication. I personally think some of the adhd medications shouldnt be perscribed to underweight people or those who have an ed.

[@Sofiaandbillie]

but then the people will suffer for other reasons?

[@rilexlyes8758]

She’s not either or those and she needs it

[@franmari]

@@Sofiaandbillieeds have a way higher mortality rate than adhd

[@uuser1120]

@@rilexlyes8758 she is very much uw what do you mean

[@jcb728]

Facts

[@-sandra-0402]

I just love you, what can i say. Cheers from Spain💓Congrats for taking that step with your medications you have to be really proud of yourself💓

[@Paul_ABC]

THIRSTY for admin tasks lmao. Was like this for me too. Didn't like that manic energy so I switched to lower dose and then immediate release instead of delayed released so I could pace it easier

[@puppyhardy1231]

Just what I needed rn

[@vanessag9269]

i just gasped new ep omg

[@bernadettetril2591]

I love your content! Please never stop ❤

[@BeckyJade]

Omg I have the same I need to watch this but the ADHD really affects me

[@younisakram6424]

Awesome video maddy

[@sudeozkar]

meeeee !! our little conscious baby

[@kendallerickson8772]

i was reluctant for years because i just figured i needed to find the right schedule to not be lazy and not completely unmotivated, now that im medicated i also have a rocket up my ass and it’s exactly what i needed

[@PennyPaige13]

Fellow adhder here, you may be on a too high of a dose or the wrong kind of stimulant as your side effects seem to be doing the opposite effect. I am on my adhd pills and yes they make me want to do all my tasks but it makes me read better, slow down and actually take everything in. With the dizziness, when I took a certain kind it would make me dizzy n sick n I actually would sleep😂 that was Concerta, I’m on Vyvanse now Also remember to take a day off a week or you’ll grow a tolerance to your medication and currently my blood pressure is getting high so make sure to check that too! Definitely try a longer release not a short release because I completely get the feelings, I’m a slow release it’s best for me

[@onwindydays]

Congratulations!! Being wary of medications is totally understandable, tho!

[@Jheneaaiko]

In this case it's changing how someone naturally is with a drug when there's nothing wrong with them but society had decided its wrong to be different, children are medicated and that should show us that we need to create a world suited for people with adhd and eveyone else not medicate people and make them into the same people

[@user-np8yf8fj2w]

@@Jheneaaikonot necessarily, the reason why people get on medication is because their disorder disrupts their day to day functioning