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[@Nikaido..]

Take a shot everytime Asmon says:”Alot of people like this game, I havent really played it though.”

[@pilotsora]

I would pass out.

[@ZootyG]

Have mercy on my liver man

[@markkushendrikmarken3471]

I would die but worth it.

[@heatingandairbender8857]

Anybody surprised he picked the black guy as streamer of the year? I'm not

[@Docwell]

i ded

[@Nazani]

Ah yes let me see what Asmon votes for GOTY out of a list of games NONE of which he played

[@asmodeus4207]

You didnt have to play BG3 to see its impact. People who never played a CRPG in their lives were picking it up. You can also talk about the absolute metric shit ton of content the game has for $60, making it one of the best values on the market. Its not fucking close and you cant even make an argument for any of the others.

[@uglyheadass1459]

@@asmodeus4207yes you can lol

[@stayhydrated-v1]

To be fair, he's not actually placing a vote, just talking about the games.

[@FearlessCrusader100]

​@asmodeus4207 yeah game had a solid 150 hours for a single playthrough and the whole thing was great

[@CineGoodog]

@@asmodeus4207 You ar3e the etype of people who just agrees with everyone. Not saying BG3 is bad but he should at least play those games before taking those votes (or not, nobody cares). I love how he describes Zelda TotK as "It is just BotW with construction". or Hi-Fi rush as "it is cyberpunk cartoon" Also you can see clearly how he simps for any soulsgame (or from soft game) without giving a second though.

[@sebastianfiel1715]

The problem with Asmon is that when he's not playing anything, he's thinking about Cyberpunk, but when he's playing Cyberpunk, he's thinking about Wow.

[@Myhaay]

addicted, simple. he played that garbage for 20 years, in which 10 of them have been shit, he realizes what a good game can actually be when thinking about CP2077, the playerbase doesn't even care about the game at this point, it's just something they do, like the way you wash your hands after a piss.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@Myhaay CP2077 isnt a good game tho, it was marketed on lies and is mediocre at best

[@Myhaay]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww don't state opinions as facts, you don't like it and that's fine, the release was bad affects my point how? the only reason it was such a big deal is because they are the guys that made witcher 3, if bethesda released something like that people would just laugh and joke it off (i.e Starfield). braindead mentality. it is an objectively good game, just like world of warcraft was, even though i personally didn't like it, the world doesn't revolve around you bro, take a step back.

[@aklokoth]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww Do you live under a rock?

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@Myhaay CP2077 is straight up NOT what CDPR advertised it as, they claimed it would be a 'next-gen RPG' and then not only delivered us a ridiculously overpriced Keanu Reeves movie but the RPG aspects are non-existent. if CP2077 is what CDPR thinks a 'next-gen RPG' is like then mayb they should stick to current-gen as they've proven incompetent at making a next-gen RPG

[@ShazbotDesign]

They need a "Worst GOTY" and present it at a random time so people don't know which award is coming up next. Everyone would be just waiting for that award so they can laugh.

[@marcochen9117]

games that are considered the worst of the year already cause whole development teams to shut down or mass employee lay offs, not sure if its the best idea to make a segment just to make fun of them. Fun for the audience, not fun for the devs or the team

[@Shalakor]

@@marcochen9117 Maybe a Worst Successful GOTY? Which profitable game was the worst.

[@marcochen9117]

@@Shalakor at that point you're just trivializing the entire show, there's already a big opposition to award shows nowadays and this would only add to more lack of professionalism

[@kratosGOW]

I mean movies do have Razzie awards.

[@ovrninethousnd]

I would love to see baldurs gate 3 win every award just to show companies that people want a complete game with no micro transactions crap shoved in

[@ziro0798]

Yes, exactly

[@lushen952]

I still feel like some of the old bioware games are more enjoyable than baldurs gate. It's just a genre that has been dead for some time and baldur's gate didn't do anything terribly wrong so people like it. It's not an amazing game though...

[@girthatbirth]

@@lushen952it’s amazing, lol one of the most complete and interactive games ever bud. and freedom to do so much with ur chrachter.

[@lushen952]

@@girthatbirth It's literally just a bioware game there's nothing special about it on a formula basis. Play DA:O. Each background has its own like 2hr prequel story to start the game that is COMPLETELY separate from one another with an entirely different cast of characters, environments, and story. There's 6 of these. You can choose which companions you recruit, who lives and dies, and your choices have dramatic consequences in the course of the story. You can save a city and go back there anytime or let it fall and have nearly everyone there die. You can side with a group of elves or side with the werewolves that are trying to kill them. Or even pick a middleground option. Whichever you side with will show up at the end of the game to fight with you. Baldur's gate isn't new. It's just been a long time since a game like this existed. As far as I'm concerned, nothing tops DA:O and the Mass Effect trilogy...not even close. Most of the people freaking out over Baldur's gate are just young people that missed the bioware phase. Bioware has sense forgotten itself and Baldur's gate picked up the formula.

[@drguthrie7621]

And complete games where the devs listen to feedback and actively improve the game with patches bases on said feedback, they implemented a whole new feature to change appearance in the game and an entire new ending with voice acting and new cutscene based on feedback

[@thanos2715]

Out of all the amazing games that came out this year, the one game Asmon put his time in to was Starfield 💀

[@Uryendel]

It depends, if you remove the loading screens then he had spent more time on BG3 than on starfield

[@camfreed9829]

Yikes 😬😬😬😬

[@sten260]

he did play hogwarts legacy too

[@atrocious7766]

Starfield is a simplistic game. Not much backseating and things to stress him out. I think it's probably the reason he was able to play it more than a game like Cyberpunk that can be confusing with it's skill trees and sheer amount of quests.

[@pylotlight]

@@atrocious7766 The problem is thinking skill trees are confusing.. just read its 100% self explanatory.

[@DJG1220]

The fact that Rise of Kong wasn't AT LEAST nominated for GOTY is so crazy to me.

[@aronblanche]

And gollum

[@MH_Zard]

There needs to be a category for best meme game.

[@nhagan001]

They can’t do that, else they would have to put Rise of Kong and Alan Wake 2 in the same category.

[@JackCrossSama]

worst game of the year category.

[@belion438]

You're missing forspoken, best game ever.

[@Radaney]

Man who hasn't played any of these games votes on which game he hasn't played deserves an award. Based.

[@irefusetodie]

He's reacted to other people's videos about them so he knows everything he needs to know /s.

[@calebnelson58]

How is that based?

[@camfreed9829]

NOT based

[@chojigage]

@@irefusetodielmaooo the fact asmon has real fans that would say something like this

[@Agent_Redacted-cz5vm]

Let's me real here. Most of the voters are probably the same as Asmon.

[@Macintosh1001]

28:07 I think the game that deserves to win, should win, regardless how many times. It's just spiteful to deny a game's accomplishment just because you feel like the others should win out of pity.

[@whatsitmatter9541]

His logic is dumb af. Imagine the Olympics if you could only win 1 gold medal per event so that "other" countries can feel included...🤦

[@anormalguy8407]

yeah it is pretty dumb. Asmond forgets things like artists and composers exist. People that would love some recognition for their amazing work they did. But because they happened to be also in the game of the year means they shouldn't get that? A shit game could still have the best soundtrack and best game also does not mean you have the best soundtrack.

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

It doesn’t deserve categories such as music though.

[@Macintosh1001]

@@anormalguy8407 right. Which ever one deserves it should win. Period. There shouldn't be any other factor.

[@michalsedlarik8889]

@@Sephirothkingdom782 Even tho i do love BG3 music it is true, that they do not have the best music at all.

[@Frequencyyy]

SF6 accessibility is really impressive. A blind person was taking games off of people at EVO with a blindfold on.

[@extr3mev0id19]

Part of the reason that Baldur's gate 3 had such good performances is because they have incredible character animations. I don't know how much of it is reused as it pertains to the body motions and language but they definitely have hundreds of permutations, it always feels natural in Baldur's gate 3.

[@doubled99218]

It's all mo-cap, so it's no wonder why it turned out amazing

[@genertec]

have you ever seen Jaheera ingame? she is waving with her arms all the time looking completely ridiculous. but besides her, yes, character motion is the best ive ever seen.

[@windfallthomas676]

meanwhile every time i see my friends druid on screen in a cutscene i laugh at how derpy the expressions are.

[@Vampireinarm1]

bro go outside more no one moves like that irl lmao, like yeah it looks fine for a game but they all still move stiff as fuck lmao

[@curtis9555]

@@Wunderhass Yeah and it was still the best game in that year too, moot point

[@mattdzeph7985]

D4 really deserves that nomination for Innovation and Accessibility. Loading other players stash in the open world is groundbreaking

[@ashleybarnes9343]

But that has nothing to do with accessibility lmao, your being sarcastic but d4 should win the award, the accessibility options have literally allowed blind people to defeat uber lillith and probably the other uber bosses, that's pretty insane if you ask me

[@petergriffin9554]

Innovation in making people appreaciate PoE.

[@Cloud9er]

gamebreaking

[@ewanr111]

Agree with your point! but fyi it’s innovation *in* accessibility, not innovation *and* accessibility so not strictly relevant

[@lashaxoperia5917]

@@petergriffin9554 fk PoE, thats not a game man, thats job after job

[@spabble]

This is why gamer votes don't play a huge factor when it comes to who wins. I use to be against this but now I completely understand.

[@Wowowoi1]

Wait why

[@tonycezar1645]

@@Wowowoi1 because people usually don't play that many games, so you are just voting for the 1-2 games you actually played, and that's not a fair judgment

[@ygnizemcenia6059]

@@Wowowoi1 Same reason review bombs happens. Some are justified but it can easily get out of hand.

[@RuijsNL]

​@@Wowowoi1because you get votes from dudes like this who played pretty much none of these games

[@Hailtothegun]

@@Wowowoi1 Because it's not a gamer's responsibility to play every game that comes out in a year and yet people can still vote on what they want based on biased/prejudiced opinions without having played half the selection. This isn't a popularity contest (that's what the Golden Joystick awards were, which are 100% fan voted).

[@MordorFishChannel]

Genshin deserves it. It's a disgrace it can't be nominated for the music (apparently because it's a live service game). It would be winning in that category every year. Whoever talks sh&t about genshin is either a troll, hates anime in general, or has a huge prejudice against the games labeled as "gacha" and judges genshin without even playing it, ever.

[@CrucibleGuy]

Bg 3 has better music. Period.

[@MonsterHat133]

im not a troll, i love anime, i love gachas, i played genshin to the point of unlocking multiplayer, and i can say that in my opinion the game sucks.

[@impostorsyndrome1350]

This guy: Never played genshin "Well genshin isn't the best ongoing, it's between the games I've played" Hoyoverse drops one of the most depressing and top-tier archon quest:

[@Jamgcy]

I feel like this is a class test for Asmon who forgot to do his homework

[@camfreed9829]

😂exactly!

[@ittylink]

Couldn't be said better.

[@jamiegreyy]

Fully just yapping, making stuff up as he goes😂

[@Puppetmaster2005]

lol

[@tNuOcCaFrUmS]

its a prime example why "journalists" shouldnt be voting for any award.

[@TimeyWimey.]

I think Raphael's Final Act is one of the best boss theme's period. It really gets the point across that he looks down on you and doesn't see you as a threat in the slightest, until you kick his teeth in.

[@nauxoh]

The vocals were the worst for me , I even cut the music at some point ( did the fight only two time), everyone is different. I'm not saying it is bad but it's too much orchestra imo

[@TimeyWimey.]

@@nauxoh I might agree with you if it were a real time fighting game, however, given that BG3 is turn based i think it enhances the mood of the fight greatly with no negatives (for me). It really fits a fight with a devil who assumes they're going to mop the floor with you, only for your party to educate him and his cohorts by turning his insides into outsides. It also makes sense for Raphael's pompous character to bring out a grandiose orchestral piece belittling those he thinks of as mere toys in order to intimidate or demoralize them.

[@nauxoh]

@@TimeyWimey. as I said, the music is good and fits the narrative. But it's not my style, I meant no offence

[@TimeyWimey.]

@@nauxohI was just stating why i felt it was a great piece. I took no offence from your previous comment. I can definitely see why some may not like it as its a very extravagant piece played during one of the more difficult fights in the game, resulting in it being distracting.

[@shagaru1234]

Thats hilarious guess you've never heard about unwavering belief

[@nilssab]

to me it's wild that Astarion VA was on the list instead of the narrator. I think she really made the game a masterpiece.

[@tigereyes0209]

I agree, the narrator deserved a nomination at least. Neil won golden joystick best VA, give the narrator an award too

[@gonzalocornejo9267]

or JK Simmons i got chills x10000 when i heard him the first time .-.

[@Digitalcanvas77]

There are Astarion Ingame dialogue ASMR videos floating around KZbin…lol

[@Zoe-hd6ug]

She did an incredible job true, but from what I understand Neil (Astarion's VA) did a lot of the mo-cap for this game, not just his character.

[@Daniel-rt5mo]

@@Zoe-hd6ug yeah thats fair, i love her voice though

[@wolfpacknight2]

The reaction to d2 being on the nominee list was priceless, in all seriousness I don't even know how it's even a nomination especially after recent events

[@dongdoodler]

I have played it recently you would be suprised to see the improvements, honestly the gameplay is really good if the lighfall story was even decent people would look at the game way different. Its honestly still not a great game but destiny raids are some of the best pve group content that exists.

[@wolfpacknight2]

@@dongdoodler I'm a regular player with over 3000 hours in the game, I've seen these changes but these changes only happen when the game is in a really bad spot, d1's major change was taken king, the first big change for d2 was forsaken's launch then the one after that was witch queen's launch, the most recent time they actually started listening and started making changes that people want was that dumpster fire of a state of the game they made earlier this year that made people leave the game, now they have to get player trust back again because of the shenanigans going on now

[@limitless_ftw]

Destiny 2 has amazing villains and lore but absolute hot trash management

[@Nyles_FS]

For someone who makes money in the gaming space, Asmon is somehow living under the biggest rock imaginable with these takes

[@obba40]

His entire gaming knowledge is souls and mmos. That's it.

[@GreatRaijin]

​@@obba40and his takes on souls games are typically bad lmao

[@AaronBowley]

he plays what he likes, he's allowed to do that

[@B34RProductions]

His takes on Mario wonder and TotK 💀 both games are amazing and deserve to compete with baldurs gate 3

[@ashtonjack]

​@@B34RProductionsHell no.

[@matthewroberts7218]

Its hilarious how Asmon says hes voting for Super Mario Bros for game direction because he says he hasnt played alan wake or totk. The dude literally hasnt played any of the games on his screen and is basing his opinion off of a single video he reacted to. I dont really care which one wins the category, but I just found this funny.

[@Heaven0854]

Yeah this video was obnoxious because it's an opinion formed from an attainment of ignorance on the subject. That being said he knows he has bad takes and it's not serious lol

[@atrocious7766]

He noticeably contradicts himself quite a bit in this video. Fortunately, he didn't actually vote and just discussed the games.

[@gerald9815]

i would love to see BG3 to be game of the year. a big slap to the face to those greedy devs. edit* im referring to the devs who called BG3 an anomaly because larian didnt follow the industry standard with modern games.

[@tonycezar1645]

@@pen12345 weak bait

[@gerald9815]

@@pen12345 okay. good for you

[@arsstv]

@@pen12345 It's just a bad game. Woke has nothing to do with it, maybe a cherry on top of awful gameplay and one of the worst stories ever put to paper.

[@League-f9x]

Any of these games in the Game Of The Year will show an example of outstanding game development. Which this is a very challenging pick for Game of The Year

[@voltus20]

​@@arsstvtrolls aren't what they used to be. At least in the past they would have semi-convincing bait, not like nowadays.

[@b0bz0r]

best RPG of the year: "not counting bg3" in a category where it literally has no competition, come on baldie.

[@C24U_]

I do feel that Hi-Fi Rush should have been on the list for best art direction. Creating a game where the literal environment has to keep pace with the beat is such a monumental amount of work and it’s just great to see a game that’s so bright and colorful.

[@elathiaskade7311]

Yes, it feels like the officials don’t have their finger on the pulse of what the term “art direction” means or what is impressive to audiences

[@frosthammer917]

But it literally was a nomination for best art direction?

[@C24U_]

@@frosthammer917 GAH I was looking at game directions list instead of art direction list! My bad.

[@stopaskingplease1747]

D4 definately deserves best multiplayer. They connect players so much they even load the inventory and stash of all players you ever see into your RAM.

[@chriskos7868]

Hahahahahahaha no

[@michalsedlarik8889]

True brother no other game managed to do that. It is quite impresive.

[@ShazbotDesign]

Bro, that 3rd Mother's Grace you got is bottom rolled man. Just trash it.

[@Apac12]

no

[@SoulgainTM]

no

[@King-O-Hell]

Baldur's Gate 3 got one of the best receptions I've ever seen in my life. Always happy when a developer nails it with a great title. Resident Evil 4 killed it also. I had a great time with that game. Bug-free, ran perfect and it was exciting the whole way.

[@BrotherSham]

Asmon: "I don't think Super Mario Wonder is doing much to move the Mario formula forward" Asmon 5 minutes later: "I think Mario is doing a lot to try and reinvent the platformer genre"

[@ahmed-alnoor]

Man started out by saying "im not going to vote for BG3 twice".. the problem now is that you are not evaluating the nominees on their merit and what they have achieved and which one actually deserves each award, which is what should be the goal when giving the awards, but instead you are distributing the awards among the games you think deserve it or might have missed out in other categories, and sure some games deserve recognition and dont win, but we only get a game like BG3 that sweeps everything once in a generation, once we get it in my opinion it deserves ALL the recognition no matter the cost. ESPECIALLY since BG3 is also telling the entire games industry that being ethical works, you can make money and sales without a shop or cosmetics that cost ridiculous amount of money, that being important enough, the game was also beyond words AMAZING, thats why IMO if it sweeps then it sweeps, they deserve it man.

[@TP-pq9xx]

He wasn’t evaluating on the merits in the first category either since he hasn’t played any of the choices

[@rukuuchiha2981]

The reason i want BG3 to win every award it can is because i want it to be the wake up call to cheap AAA studios that its time to put passion back into the industry.

[@Ulquiorro]

I have the same argument for Alan Wake 2, they did an entire musical just for the sake of a couple of minutes of gameplay, hired a buch of irl artist (not to mention they had Poets Of the Fall), and you dont see the game director face on their own games anymore, Sam Lake was pretty sure he did a good job... But since its a voting (popularity) system, i dont think AW2 will win, but i have no problem at all with BG3 winning.

[@nathanhargenrader645]

I mean there are 5 other incrible aaa games on that list and another like 6 that got snubbed. Aaa gaming isn’t as bad as people act.

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

@@nathanhargenrader645 Asmon fan base don't know that. Asmon doesn't even know that Capcom is a good company. He has been snobbing Capcom for years and thinks Fromsoft is the pinnacle of Japanese game devs. Hahaha

[@nathanhargenrader645]

@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Fromsoft is the pinnacle, currently, unless it’s Nintendo and people have been meming on capcom for years. People called them “crapcom” for like damn near a decade. They had been putting out a ton of mediocre games. It wasn’t till recently that they turned that around.

[@jordannelson1910]

Voted for Zelda but I'm rooting for BG3 as well. It totally deserves it

[@artemyburakh12]

I can't fathom how people have forgotten Atomic Heart. It was a pretty decent game with great atmosphere, dumb story and nice gameplay. People seemed to like it quite a bit on release

[@uxsenebeli]

Meh game

[@artemyburakh12]

@@uxsenebeli elaborate? In many aspects it's better than Hogwarts Legacy which only has an amazing open world but nothing else.

[@ProkerKusaka]

Ngl AH was a fresh air in fps category

[@artemyburakh12]

@@ProkerKusaka i know, right? I can't remember a single AA(A) fps single player game after Doom Eternal that didn't suck ass (also Cyberpunk didn't but tbh fps aspect of it was boring as hell for me)

[@johnp3556]

I honestly liked the story

[@pingu6338]

We riot for Holocure.. that game change many lives

[@Reverbiration]

Id be happy for ff16 to win in the music and acting categories. Given the stiff competition I could see it winning in those 2.

[@ultrabear1583]

it should be nominated under best action/adventure instead of best rpg,TGA is a joke 😂

[@ElYoinkySploinky]

It not being on the GOTY category is a crime

[@mister-pinkman]

@@yannispirou101you’re right it technically is, although all the rpg fluff in FF16 sucks.

[@hua..]

after seeing it lose "best playstation game" to a fucking remake on joystick awards, I won't be surprised if it doesn't win anything during TGA

[@chinese_bot]

Alan Wake 2 is winning both those categories lol

[@YaBoiEye]

2023 was such a good year for gaming, that there's so many games that would get a nomination had it been any other year lol

[@League-f9x]

It's also a year where Lord of The Rings Gollum is released. Still a great year

[@ginkowave5829]

​​@@League-f9x Redfall this year as well right? You take the good with the bad.

[@fishgiovaana8441]

​@@ginkowave5829forspoken

[@matosz23]

​@@League-f9x Forspoken Redfall Gollum Kong

[@dr.mr.fuzzyhat4798]

Asmon justifying Lies of P getting best art direction over Hi-Fi Rush actually caused my IQ to drop 10 points

[@dylan6996]

Well dude liked the game better can't blame him lol of course he will be biased

[@BrotherSham]

Art direction is subjective and admittedly hi fi rush looks like so many anime style and cell shaded games

[@boomdabomb20]

This was an overall impressive year of games. The gaming INDUSTRY has been rough af, but games themselves? A lot of good ones.

[@jaleshere]

True, honestly though it just makes me worried for all the future game releases after this rough year inside the industry. We may not see heavy aftereffects until a year+ later though.

[@jimtsap04]

A lot of good ones but also a lot of shit ones, aka a lot of games in general

[@kokocaptainqc]

honestly theres only barldurs gate 3 that id give a go even if i usually dont like that type of game and absolutely everything else is lower tier to me

[@chumlee9562]

@@kokocaptainqc Mario wonder is amazing.

[@float32]

The gaming industry is always rough. Studios go under all the time.

[@MGC-XIII]

I voted for BG3 in almost all of the categories it was nominated in, the VA category was tough because damn that's a lot of talent, but I have a soft spot for Astarion.

[@datderpderping501]

Crazy considering Yuri had the best voice acting and his range of it was insane. Was an easy pick.

[@matthewhudson6036]

Id go for Clive, even though the game disappointed me a bit his VA was insane. You are right though there is a ton of talent here and I wouldn't be mad if half the list won.

[@Bluehood77]

​@@datderpderping501 Yuri has sounded the same for years its always the same voice hes hardly got range.

[@therealpoolboy420]

Rogue Life!!!!

[@LahyriAurbach]

One thing that sets BG3 apart in this category in my opinion is the way that it has multiple narrative paths, so it is harder than a streamlined narrative as in the other games

[@BaxxyNut]

Is there a category for new studios? That would be worthwhile if there wasn't.

[@kyburn6195]

Yeah, it’s the Best Debut Indie Game category.

[@FearlessCrusader100]

itll generally be shit tho. most studios make a dozen games youve never heard of before they make it big. how many people have played kingsfield? almost none. but everybody loves dark souls. debut games for most studios are pretty meh, it takes several iterations to get things right even with talented people. what would be a lot more interesting is "games made by

[@Yuuki-SJ]

Im a huge Shadowheart simp and Idris Elba fan but I instantly chose Neil Newbron. Astarion is the most memorable character even tho i hated him. Then I played a 2nd playthrough and learned more about him and now he's my top 5 favorite characters of all time

[@jasonschad5379]

"Would you only want a game to win one award?" No...Absolutely not. An analogy. Prior to Return of the King, fantasy as a genre was a goof. Anything nerdy was not popular. Return of the King at the Oscars that year wiped the floor winning in every category it was nominated in (11?) and paved the way for us to have the fantasy genre taken seriously. (Edit - Ok lol. I hadn't made it up to this part of the video where he makes this exact reference.) Almost 20 years later, Larian drops this monster of a game on the world, and developers everywhere are screaming that people should not expect that level of development in their games. To which I say no. We should. We should expect the developers that are so in love with what they are doing that, as a metaphor, are willing to put in a scene for a bear fucks a vampire. BG3 should be the game that makes that kind of statement to the devs. It should win all 7 categories its nominated in. Not only as a statement, but for the sheer merits that are brought to the table. In every single category that its nominated in, it is far and away better at everything it does. I want to see games win more than one award.

[@draknusdesderdus7506]

Ben Starr took best performance for me purely for his ability to bring out extreme emotion in his voice with literally nothing on screen. It's insane.

[@Peanutfiendsblog]

Octopath Traveller 2 wasn't on the list for soundtracks? It's the best music I've ever heard in a game period.

[@almogm1990]

Baldur's gate 3 is the definition of the BEST RPG, so obviously it should win the BEST RPG award.. in addition to the game of the year.

[@FeiFongWang]

This is actually a perfect example of why audience votes are meaningless. 90% of the audience will not have played most of the games on each list (apart from complete no lifers), so it will devolve into either a popularity contest or people picking what they have played. Asmon plays videp games for a literal living, and even he didnt play most of these games for long enough to know what he was talking about.

[@Agent_Redacted-cz5vm]

He plays WOW for most of his life, you mean 😂😂😂

[@danielstewart7611]

This is an issue even in political voting, as large majority of people voting are uninformed or ill-informed. There was a reason voting was originally tied to property ownership in the US: meant you had skin in the game and likely would make informed decisions at the very least. It’s akin to having people vote for GOTY and having the voting requirements be that you actually owned the games.

[@BastoGhost]

Also nobody can play all the video games of the year. GOTY is just for entertainement it s impossible for something like that to be truely legitimate.

[@StuartEaston23]

Not like all the official outlets like all the IGN's and Kotaku's of the world are any better. So many of them are disingenuous as hell and half the time they come across as hating video games all together.

[@mrsneedleton3254]

Yeah, everyone knows game awards are simply a popularity contest, yet everybody still treats them with respect, it's bullshit, the sooner people realize this is just like the oscars and the better the gaming industry will be for it I fucking hate the fact gaming went so mainstream, it only draws in vapid bullshit like this

[@KingMacbean]

I think Ralph Ineson from Diablo 4 and FF16 should have also been nominated for the best performance. Set the tone in both games.

[@KatyWhitekavkj]

Ralph *was* nominated for supporting actor for FF16 though, deservedly so :)

[@user-sr5wd7qp1o]

Baldur's Gate 3 made many people not only play their first CRPG but THEIR FIRST COMPUTER GAME.

[@fakesweden5607]

Baldurs Gate 3 should win every single category! Not only is it NO QUESTION ASKED game of the year. It will also send a message to developers, that taken the time and finishing a game properly will get you in the hall of fames of games. No Microtransactions, 100+ hours of entertainment, good price, great game and good customer service. Larian Studios is Gamers turned Game developers. None of this corporate suit bullshit, who doesn't understand anything.

[@RyuSaarva]

Finished? I heard that the last parts of the game are rushed and unfinished.

[@twoface9959]

I don’t understand why Asmongold is so hesitant to play any of these games. Why continuously put time and effort into playing games that have let him down continuously in the past or are just outright terrible, instead of games that universally-accepted as good? I understand Zach will not enjoy every single genre to ever exist in video game history, but it certainly helps to avoid burnout of the same archetype when you dive into something new. Additionally, who’s to say you can’t return to MMOs or Soulslike games down the line?

[@AsanellaHD]

I think, it's all for " Content " , cause reacting videos and just making hot takes, it's entertaining for people... I would love to see him playing more cool games but " It is what it is "

[@tierlis422]

where was Hogwarts Legacy for GotY? surprised that wasn't there

[@lukestardoinstuff1237]

Tbh anyone who doesn’t vote for bg3 as Goty either hasn’t played it or is a huge Nintendo fan

[@CliveRostfield]

FF16 one of the most underrated games, that level of epicity in fights just i saw it at anime fights, choreography, characters and lore its just in another level, deserves more recognition

[@mrsneedleton3254]

Yup, it's the shitty release window and the PS5 exclusive that ruined it, guaranteed if it released maybe in October and on PC it would have had at least 3 times the amount of players

[@PatrickThomasBrady]

@@mrsneedleton3254a truly great game of the year type game transcends release date but being a ps5 exclusive definitely hurt it

[@mrsneedleton3254]

@@PatrickThomasBrady Idk man, a big point in favor of BG3 was how much discourse was around it, and that discourse stems from the number of people that played it Every game that releases during summer tends to be somewhat ignored, it was always the case, and ff16 made no difference, I can guarantee you, if ff16 released in mid to late october it'd in the goty nominees 100%

[@phorevergaming7375]

Remnant II isn't getting enough love. The fact that it released the last week of July and still outsold major triple A games released in that same month is a huge testament.

[@wolfmelody2787]

thats what i was thinking also. remnant 2 did way more right than wrong. i had soo much fun playing it

[@hitoseijuro5673]

Remnant II was amazing and if it had been released in a different time, probably more people understand how fun the game was, but it was released a few weeks before BG3 that it just got over shadowed sadly. Ive had more fun on Remnant II than BG3 and I enjoyed playing BG3 with my friend + wife.

[@Shadyman526]

Same with Lies of P. Like seriously another Mario game gets nominated and b9th Remnant 2 and Lies of P easily deserve to be up there much more.

[@dougfoster445]

It’s o…k maybe just wasn’t my cup of tea

[@jaleshere]

@@dougfoster445that’s totally understandable, I also wasnt a huge fan if im being honest but you can tell they put a lot into that game so I went ahead and voted for it in the later categories just because it deserves a little love.

[@Etrieh]

Hogwarts legacy not being on the list whatsoever is actually criminal. And we all know why its not on there...we all fucking know. And that is pathetic.

[@duhotatoday3277]

Apparently judging by Asmon's logic, CDPR deserves an award for finishing the game that was supposed to be finished on release. And remember how they didn't show any actual footage for current gen consoles, didn't let game journalists show any of it and released it anyway, when it was so unplayable, that Sony deleted it from their store? I remember. Truly something that deserves a celebration.

[@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-.]

I agree with you but I'd blame all that on greedy corporations not the devs

[@ACViper]

I agree with this console take, but I played it on pc. I had bugs, but overall I thought it was an 8/10. The recent updates and expansion made it a 9/10 imo

[@atrocious7766]

@@ACViper This. As a PC player, it was always a good game. Even the Steam reviews reflected that sentiment from the start.

[@drasticbread249]

The "Games for Impact" category should just call itself what it is, award for the best game nobody's played.

[@mrsneedleton3254]

It's the ESG awards for most buzzwords

[@Will-vj5bc]

Mario deserves the award for art direction. They managed to make a 3D game that animates like the old 2D games with key frames and whatnot. That's a large reason why it looks so much better than the New SMB games and the 2D sections of 3D World.

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

it deserves recognition for the art direction, but I don't think that should give it game of the year because gameplay wise it didn't really feel like it changed up much, and it's really short and easy.

[@Flameonoodle]

​​@@TheRealNintendoKidbut you can be an elephant You cant in spider mid: 2 or legends of the mid: crying castle or the dungeon and midgon game (although you can have seggs in that but still not as satisfying or hot as being an elephant)

[@erikknudsenmork4536]

Doug doug should be in creator of the year. That man never fails to entertain.

[@minifreedom]

How are you gonna vote when you only react lol

[@tonycezar1645]

to be fair he didn't really voted

[@gregrenox9644]

Yeah he didn't voted, he just give his opinion. But if he voted, then its gonna be can of worm.

[@shaunconnally4794]

Who gives a fuck if resident evil 4 is a remake, it was fucking awesome, dead space was a remake and it was fucking awesome

[@atrocious7766]

It's because people get remasters and remakes mixed up. It being a remake doesn't mean it can't stand on it's own. People with functioning brains and that have played it are aware it's transformative enough at least.

[@videowatcher551]

The fact the Starfield isn't even a nominee is laughably fantastic.

[@lovely_rae]

​​​​@@themysterykid1you are reaching. At the top of the video Asmon reads someone mentioning starfield being nominated for 1 category & this is a video about a list of games up for awards 😂 is starfield not a game & weren't a lot of xbox players saying this was goty before the game came out? What does playstation players have to do with it not being nominated for goty? You seem a little butthurt 💀

[@chumlee9562]

Starfield was trash and I own Xbox series x and hate PlayStation

[@NeocrimsonX]

​@themysterykid1 it's not even a matter of console wars the game was simply that bad

[@dannysmi7162]

It’s nominated for best RPG, what are you talking about? You shouldn’t lie just because you don’t like the game.

[@lovely_rae]

@@dannysmi7162 they're talking about Starfield not being nominated for goty award because xbox players were saying it was goty before & after it came out. Calm down 😂

[@theum2138]

Sad to see FF16 not get nominated for GOTY. Even tho I know it wouldn't win, I at least want to hear it in the orchestra ;-;

[@DONTHURTMELOL]

Winners win. Baldur's gate 3 needs to win 4 awards minimum. There's at least that number were BG3 was that ahead of everyone.

[@darkwingeduriel]

Asmongold you set Tekken as the videogame and the others as search terms, this means that you got the original Tekken against all Mortal Kombat and all Street Fighter. If you set Tekken as a search term they follow each other pretty closely except for when a new title is released.

[@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778]

Bg3 was very succesful but I'd argue its still niche enough of a genre that zelda Tears of the kingdom could have it beat. We already know its either bg3 or zelda anyways. Out of the choices those were the two biggest games this year Think about it, breath of the wild won goty 2017. And tears of the kingdom took botw and improved apon it in every aspect, adding hundreds of caves, an entire underworld and Upper world, made the world actually feel alive by adding way more npcs, a few new outposts and sidequests that required to help restore areas, a hybrid of traditional dungeons and divine beasts which pleases both old players and new fans from botw. They made zelda and the master sword actually feel important unlike botw, and the main world from the previous game is completley reworked. People complainee it was just a dlc even tho they literally had to rework the whole entire map and make it look familiar but different for the new mechanics. They added a physichs mechanic to the game that was so revolutionary and complicated that it pissed off developers from other studios. I mean the sequel to botw is so good it makes such a popular game like botw seem terrible. Which to an extent botw had some big flaws

[@FlareFoot57]

While FF16's soundtrack didn't resonate with me as much as other FF titles, the track, "Lovely, Dark, and Deep" (the track that plays when you and Cyd are going through the forest in Rosaria for the first time) is absolutely gorgeous.

[@occiderisaethiopissa3702]

That track also how it speeds up and goes harder when you are engaged in combat and then slows down and back to a more calm melody all done so seemlessly, it's so fucking good.

[@FlareFoot57]

And the official soundtrack release has both versions in the same track. It's beautiful.@@occiderisaethiopissa3702

[@tencive5749]

I honestly loved Ascension and the Titan Lost theme

[@Regnier191]

Here's a pro tip. If BG3 is on the list, you vote for it!

[@astranger448]

Here is another pro tip. If you want a preview of how a player voted award, rather than a press voted award goes, check out the Golden Joystick Awards that took place Nov 10 in the UK. Players voted for BG3 in every category the were nominated in, 7 awards in total.

[@alexmitchell9845]

TOTK is game of the year for me. Lived up to and surpassed the hype.

[@marlinmurrell620]

Same

[@Jon-yn4pq]

100%

[@desolation1821]

Baldur's Gate is obviously gonna win (and rightly so). But what aboud Hogwarts Legacy or Star Wars Jedi Survivor. They should have been on the list tbh.

[@lawlyss]

I think one game that deserves all the awards should win them, for the different departments that played a part. I’ve been saying the same thing about FFXVI not being an RPG and people get UPSET. The weapon upgrades and levels could not be there and the experience would be the same.

[@StarkPierrot]

I feel like BG3 is a no brainer, goty. It's probably the best game I've ever played.

[@Sas-ym4gg]

Larian def deserves all they can get as a statement to the industry. If their “competition”doesn’t like it, do better. Majority of the industry aren’t in it for awards anyway, just the mtx cash money. They’ll be fine. Some others on the list def deserve recognition as well but ye.

[@kylevernon]

Hogwarts Legacy, Jedi:Survivor, and Final Fantasy 16 all got snubbed because they came out earlier in the year.

[@Sheckyize]

They were high mid lmao

[@CoCo.-_-]

all better than spider man 2, either way ff16 and amoured core 6 should be in place of spider man 2@@Sheckyize

[@Sheckyize]

@@CoCo.-_- I was very disappointed with Spiderman 2 didn’t like ff16 outside of boss fights

[@restinginn9906]

Alan Wake 2 deserves an award for innovation in method of storytelling. You play as two protagonists that switch between each other, on two separate but connected “timelines” with so many references to art and the heros journey combined with real life videos inside their games - it’s just storytelling that no other game has ever done before.

[@bravepenguin]

Great storytelling techniques for a godawful story. Overlapping timelines and alternate versions of characters and other dimensions, it's basically a Western dev's take on kingdom hearts. Like just rename Scratch to Alxan already lmao

[@nhagan001]

I laugh so much at this post. “Switching between two protagonists”? Oh wow! Halo 2 called! One of your protagonist is a god damn Mary Sue. She has the power to know things that is so powerful she doesn’t even need to do detective work to figure it out! The mind palace is a joke in terms of storytelling. If Alan Wake 2 is “innovation in storytelling”… never mind. I can’t even think about it without bursting into laughter. Alan wake 2 and great storytelling couldn’t be more of a lie.

[@tabarnacus5629]

The fact that Hogwarts Legacy isn't showing anywhere in this list removes all credibility from the game awards. Should be called the woke awards at this point.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Baldur's Gate definitely deserves to win most of those categories... think of it like this - it's winning 10 years of awards all at once. Absolutely deserved.

[@MrValentineGhost]

Fromsoft has amazing boss fight soundtracks, ludwig the holy blade from bloodborne is my favourite to this day. So good!

[@gigabit6226]

IMO Fromsoft games have the best soundtracks in all of gaming, particularly Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3

[@danielstewart7611]

This is where non-FromSoft souls-like games tend to suffer. As an example, I completed Lords of the Fallen through NG+2 and I can’t actively remember any of the soundtrack because it was weak. Lies of P, though, has so many great musical elements that I found myself sitting in areas just listening to the music

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

@@gigabit6226and the old Zelda/castlevania games

[@OokamiTsu]

I hope BG3 wins a lot they deserve it!!! ❤

[@id1550]

I feel the same way… for FF16

[@s1n1st3rs0ul]

its a good game, but if you looked back at the games they made previously you would know its nothing new to them, in fact, DOS2 is better in some aspects, like, BG3 just feels like an update to that game, and its really good! Dont get me wrong, the game is great, but its just more of what they have already been doing. FF16 WOULD have had my vote, but somehow a remaster took its place as nominee.

[@akaRyuka]

@@s1n1st3rs0ul it's interesting because i saw a lot of DOS players saying that BG3 is just the best game Larian has ever made

[@s1n1st3rs0ul]

@@akaRyuka just becuase there are better aspects in a previous game downt mean that the newer game isn't better overall, becuase I do think it's better overall, but I personally don't find it good enough to get my GOTY vote... well. Compared to ff16 as I said, though it might now since ff16 isn't up there

[@AdamMS1384]

@@akaRyukaeh, my one gripe with it is concentration spells. Too easy for concentration to break and having to recast them is honestly an annoyance. Great game but I prefer DOS2 personally.

[@Musickkk]

BG3 deserves to win 7+ awards

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

the game is good, but that does not mean everything it has is perfect.

[@Musickkk]

@@Sephirothkingdom782 I didnt say its perfect. I said it deserves to take all awards the game was nominated too. Nothing is perfect.

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

@@Musickkk it does not deserve all the awards. Especially the music. I couldn’t name you 1 piece of music in bg3 as iconic as colgeras theme or ff16 music.

[@Musickkk]

@@Sephirothkingdom782 are you kidding me? Down down by the river, I'm not even saying about Raphaels theme in act 3. Iconic. ff16 theme is good, but for me just another epic fantasy tune. Same about colgeras theme. Good, but basic. I agree. mb in this topic we can argue. But best RPG? Narrative? What else was there? 100% ez BG3 wins right there.

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

@@Musickkk baldurs gate 3’s narrative isn’t anything special, it’s just huge in scope, that’s literally it. Being so large in scope hides it’s flaws as a story and since most of it is down to the players choices it’s hard to criticize it for some people. But some of the storytelling is just nonsense at times albeit most of it is good. It still is far less cohesive and overall better than something like ff16 and isn’t even close to Alan wake 2 or phantom liberty. Alan wake has an extra layer due to how it functions on the basis of almost everything being a detail for the overarching premise, so you have to pay attention to literally every small thing, and that’s really cool and far more deep than being spoonfed mostly generic fantasy cutscenes. Phantom liberty is also enhanced by the world building of edgerunners (a masterpiece of a show), and the base game as a whole which always had a great story. Baldurs Gate simply doesn’t have the same layers of quality that these 2 games have for its story. In terms of music, colgeras theme is homage to wind waker and fits directly into the setting of the game very well. Dragon roost island’s tunes play alongside the song so it’s more than just “generic fantasy music”, which is ironic considering literally nobody praises baldurs gate’s music when looking at the games strengths. Both Zelda and ff are known for their music, and their newest games are no exception to this trend. For reference, check out the amount of memes colgeras theme has on yt.

[@TheChodex]

This GOTY is gonna be Baldur Gate award. Nothing comes even close to BG3 whenever I see it as an option. And Neil MUST win award, I haven't seen such entertaining character as Astarion since RDR2

[@ZhaojuEphastine]

I am torn between two mind set regarding those awards: - I want Baldur's Gate 3 to run over the competition so that more dumb businessmen of big studios will start to get what this game brought as a positive to the community. - I want more game to win awards because they surely deserve it. Even if I think that, apart from fame, it doesn't give you anything really (Am I wrong about it?)

[@probably_afk]

Did he really say ToTK isn't transformative? The game that had other devs scratching their heads trying to figure out how they achieved what can only be compared to as black magic?? Look I can read the writing on the wall and know that BG3 will get GoTY. I didn't even play it but I know it's gonna happen. But if we are talking about "Game Direction" which is defined as "outstanding creative vision and innovation" then I can't even conceive of ToTK not having that in the bag. Who knows. Maybe I'm delusional. That's just what I think right now.

[@Nyakomata]

The only good thing about the game was building the mechs. Nothing else really mattered, the combat was still ass and the weapon durability and exploration is all from the last game. Story, gameplay, temples, whatever, penis robots were cool though.

[@BergerMan1493]

Not giving BG3 awards it deserves because you gave it game of the year is an insane take in voting mentality

[@xfrankenstein6981]

having a conversation about second best is fine but to exclude a game from all other list cos its goty is just goofy

[@elunegracee]

Are you incapable of understanding why He didnt choose bg3 for the rest? Thats on you

[@mrsneedleton3254]

No it isn't, otherwise what's the point of having other categories? GOTY shouldn't be excluded but it should reserve an honorary first place for every other category it competes in

[@ZreaperOfficial]

Especially when all the other options are mid Asmon would've given best narrative to the Cyberpunk DLC that he hasn't played because he liked the story of the base game and doesn't want to just give BG3 every award

[@cl86241]

BG3 deserves to take every single award it’s nominated for. Every other game developer deserves to see their games not win shit. They need to see that gamers are tired of their bs and are ready for studios like Larian who show genuine love for their community.

[@changsiah2]

Even though I like and respect them but overly praising and secondly can you leave some for the other studios

[@cl86241]

@@changsiah2 Do I really need to make a "I didn't mean EVERY studio literally" statement? I'm clearly exaggerating. In any event, I'm just hoping Larian can stick it to the AAA studios. I am not naïve enough to think it'll genuinely change anything any time soon, but it'll at least be a big middle finger to the studios that keep making the same garbage every year.

[@changsiah2]

@@cl86241 yeah I kind of agree but at the exact same time I just feel like this also applies to Rockstar as well

[@sporkionsuz-beero4744]

There is only one game that caused backlash from other developers, making them say "Lower your expectations from us". That game is GOTY

[@human-animalchimeraprohibi2143]

“Basically Breath of the Wild with building.” The building and crafting were game changers tho.

[@guillermocoronado6850]

Genshin deserves tbag best ongoing game. It's amazing how many events and things to engage in they keep adding and good rewards too

[@mindcrome]

Make a Best New IP Award and showcase it before the game of the year. Make the award open to developers big and small. (Starfield still would not make the list)

[@changsiah2]

Hater also I think probably would help starfield a bit more to be honest to make up for not being part of the game of the year nominee Hater Starfield would end up on the nominee for that

[@amesasw]

In think the fact that TOTK did so well is a testament to how ridiculous good their game mechanics implementation and design was. Because outside of that it feels very iterative. I would not have bought BoTW 2 without that inovation.

[@lordtouchme77]

Finally someone with common sense, i could see BG 3 won GOTY and TOTK really nailed the inovation and direction parts so it would be crazy if people votes for BG 3 in that category.

[@Toadiferous]

BG3 deserves GOTY but not direction imo. A lot of people have literally replayed acts 1 and 2 before ever even touching act 3 because it's so incomplete, and they're just waiting for patches. Game is amazing for what it does and definitely had the cultural impact for GOTY but I don't think you can objectively say it was directed better to release an unfinished game over something like Mario Wonder that was actually extremely innovative for the genre.

[@jannickdepoilly3586]

I want BG3 to win EVERYTHING over any big gaming companies to send a big message to the industry that we don't the Money First way of designing games that is dominating the industry at the moment. Not only is the BG3 game f******* awesome, but it also allows me to play without constantly reminding me to reach for my wallet.

[@starsuper64]

At the end of the day, if TOTK and Hi-Fi rush win at least 1 award, I'll be satisfied

[@Tohlemiach]

TotK needs to win best score just so that FFXVI can't get it. Soken needs to learn his lesson and fucking figure out how to hire an orchestra or maybe just go down the hall and ask Hamauzu to teach him how to use the synthesizer he's been using since 2009 because jfc the sample quality Soken uses for his music is atrocious and not deserving of an award in 2023. They really made a game about dark political fantasy, wrote a fittingly epic, orchestral score, and then recorded that score using a Gamecube quality soundchip and thought "this should definitely win an award." Nah fam.

[@Tohlemiach]

@@yannispirou101 BG3 will probably take it over either of them, which I'm also okay with, just as long as FFXVI doesn't win.

[@eletralad]

​@@Tohlemiachwhy do you hate ff16 😂

[@Tohlemiach]

@@eletralad I don't, I hate Masayoshi Soken. Here, lemme do a little copy and paste of my first comment since it seems like you missed it the first go round: "Soken needs to learn his lesson and fucking figure out how to hire an orchestra or maybe just go down the hall and ask Hamauzu to teach him how to use the synthesizer he's been using since 2009 because jfc the sample quality Soken uses for his music is atrocious and not deserving of an award in 2023. They really made a game about dark political fantasy, wrote a fittingly epic, orchestral score, and then recorded that score using a Gamecube quality soundchip and thought "this should definitely win an award." Nah fam." Hope this helps.

[@steveqi9309]

@@Tohlemiach is FF 16 music quality really that bad? Like I do think it could’ve been majorly enhanced by using a real opera and orchestra, but the music quality was not that bad was it? I don’t know maybe I just haven’t heard true audiophile quality music.

[@gandgpolaroid6406]

man asmongold is the only one that can make a 40 minutes video on games that he didn't play

[@-jakey-]

BG3 is the LOTR of this Game Awards and deserve all the awards lol

[@kerrzUSR]

Atomic Heart deserved an art direction nomination, Soviet Retro Futurism? C'mon its beautiful! Also no game integrates Live Action into games like Alan Wake and its on top of being a visual powerhouse, will 100% win that

[@trevorveillette8415]

It also should've been nominated for best score.

[@dan_kotsu]

Alan wake 2 was the most creative game of the year and deserves it.

[@Art0fKuma]

Its crazy to me how much love Asmon gives to Holocure, absolutely based.

[@Jacob9815]

The fact some devs literally said don’t expect our games to have as much content as baldurs gate 3 😂 i think that speaks volumes

[@Poberaganser]

It looks like Atomic Heart got boycotted or so, because it brought a lot of memes and fun characters this year. The twins itself could be a players choice already.

[@johnp3556]

A lot of reviewers lied about the story of the game. I say lie because these were reviewers I used to watch, and they had no problems with the story of other games In any case, I'm looking forward to the next DLC 🎉

[@CoCo.-_-]

same with hogwarts (im not a fan of the game myself though)

[@markjefferies2544]

The delusion that BG3 is as good as it is, is scary. Its not world breaking...

[@prospect2]

while at a glance im not interested in the gameplay, i would perfectly be happy for it to win, simply because of the passion and care that the devs put into the game, much like "it takes two" in 2021.

[@Ethan_Fel]

Totk is awesome but BG3 quality is above everything else.

[@care8071]

Man, as much as I love Armored Core 6. I do hope it wins something, its just too niche of a genre that I really hold some doubts about it winning one.

[@MH_Zard]

Its in action game. I think it has that at laeast