My Last Toyota?

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Trigger Happy

Trigger Happy

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@Tundra-pw2cu
@Tundra-pw2cu 7 ай бұрын
I traded my 24 Tundra the day after Toyota came out with the recall. I bought a TRD OFF ROAD 4Runner myself. Very disappointed in the new Tundra with all the problems.
@Zenergist
@Zenergist 7 ай бұрын
How the hell do so many people afford to trade in new cars for another new car? The depreciation hits, taxes and fees? No wonder we have a debt problem.
@Sasquatchflow
@Sasquatchflow 7 ай бұрын
I’ll be buying the 24 4Runner! Best damn vehicle on the planet!!
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 7 ай бұрын
I'd gladly take a 70 series LC before the 4R but it's the best sold in NA right now.
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 7 ай бұрын
The 4Runner is a gas guzzler. No thanks
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Then you don’t understand the 4runner.
@timalan7406
@timalan7406 7 ай бұрын
@@sammyjammy6647 You must be under 45 years old. 18-20 MPG is very good in something this large. Buy a Civic for economy.
@Rdrunnersac
@Rdrunnersac 7 ай бұрын
I purchased a 2024 4Runner TRD ORP in Underground on 12/27/2023. Got $5k off sticker for $44,500. Average 18.2 mpg and love it. Plan to drive it the next 13 years and give it to my now 3 year old as his first vehicle. It’s bulletproof.
@JLRailProductions
@JLRailProductions 7 ай бұрын
I bought a 2023 solar octane TRD PRO 4Runner because my gut was telling me issues were coming. That and orange is my favorite color 😬 This thing will last me forever
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Enjoy it!
@Blvck0ne
@Blvck0ne 7 ай бұрын
I’m waiting to take delivery of a 24 TRD Pro (Underground) and I can’t wait to get her. The wait is brutal.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 7 ай бұрын
Same here! I actually traded in my '22 Tacoma for a solar octane 4Runner last year.
@TheCarGuyOnline
@TheCarGuyOnline 7 ай бұрын
Solar Octane really grew on me, one of my favorite colors now.
@Juan0481
@Juan0481 7 ай бұрын
Love that color. Like others have said, it grew on me. Congrats!
@Tundra-pw2cu
@Tundra-pw2cu 7 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct in what you said in the video
@ZetaDogProductions
@ZetaDogProductions 7 ай бұрын
Well done, amigo! I also went from a 3rd gen Tundra to a 4Runner after months of battling with issue after issue with the Tundra. The 4Runner truly is a last of its kind.
@bluecruiser2019
@bluecruiser2019 7 ай бұрын
Right there with you!! We have owned 14 4Runners over the last 24 years. Third, fourth and fifth Gen’s. My wife currently has a 2020 AG 4Runner TRD Pro and I have a 2019 LC200. Absolutely love them and they will be the last of the Toyota’s that we buy unfortunately, because they have just gone completely in the wrong direction. Plus, they are all being recalled right now🤷‍♂️☹️ We will never get rid of these two, they are the last of the best!!
@Zenergist
@Zenergist 7 ай бұрын
14? Imagine if you just saved all that lost depreciation, tax, and regulatory fees from those purchases.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
@Zenergist people are quick to jump to conclusions. Maybe he has a business. I do. I put tons of miles on every year.
@Zenergist
@Zenergist 7 ай бұрын
@@triggerhappyreviews all of those costs still exist and add up. I also wonder what kind of a business would need 14 4runners, though I'm sure such a use COULD exist. There are tons of people who trade vehicles in every 1 to 2 years. It makes no sense to me, even from a business perspective.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Taxes. Just remembers how a business operates. Turning over your fleet has major tax benefits. Personally I run my vehicles for 100k and trade them. Always have.
@Zenergist
@Zenergist 7 ай бұрын
@@triggerhappyreviews yeah I understand that. It's just not the majority reason I'd wager. A tax write off is nice, but still more expensive to buy it than not. I just see a lot of individuals saying " I traded in my 23 x for a 24 y". That's alarming.
@i_run_far1132
@i_run_far1132 7 ай бұрын
I feel that exact same way. I saved up and bought my 2022 4Runner SR5 4x4 for 40k out the door from the military program. I don’t need a race car, just reliability.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Bingo. If you wanted a race car, you’d buy one!
@DennisKrok
@DennisKrok 7 ай бұрын
Great commentary and reinforces why I purchased the exact same 4 Runner.
@mongoosevsgt
@mongoosevsgt 7 ай бұрын
Forewarned. Just did an oil change on my 2024 sr5 at 500. There where PIECES of visible metals between the filter fins. Glad i did that change! No telling what passed the filter circulating in the engine. Will do another at 1500 then 5000.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the info. I generally do one at 1000 miles. I might just do it sooner now.
@glow4417
@glow4417 7 ай бұрын
Thats normal, thats why you always do a oil change really early to get rid of the metal debris. Then another oil change not too long after the first one.
@superbikedad
@superbikedad 7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the new 4runner. I share your thoughts when it comes to Toyota and these newer trucks smaller engines with too much tech. love Toyota but the lack of quality worries me for future purchases. I just traded a Tacoma I had for years and bought a new 2024 4runner TRD off road premium. Last of Toyota quality. Enjoy the new 4runner and look forward to seeing vids with it soon👍
@Thankyou_3
@Thankyou_3 7 ай бұрын
Great video and so much truth you had shared in this video. I will never ever sell my 2019 4Runner. These 5th generation 4Runners are overbuilt. The new Hybrid, EV and Turbo engines are not going to last unless you spend thousands of dollars on maintenance and repairs. These are garbage technology.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
You are correct. About all of it.
@josephkraft5640
@josephkraft5640 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I got me a TRD pro 4Runner in underground. It’s a beautiful machine and I have a special appreciation for it. Never going to let it go! Had a 22 platinum Tundra for a year and it just did not work for me.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like we have similar stories. Enjoy that new truck!
@bradhewitt6779
@bradhewitt6779 7 ай бұрын
Not a rant at all,sounds like a passionate toyota consumer that sees the end of feel good toyota. Traded my 2023 sienna appliance in on 2024 trd off road. Gave me 6000 more than i paid for it.soooo happy with my decision.
@Blue-moon12
@Blue-moon12 7 ай бұрын
Nissan Frontier Pro 4x ticks all the boxes you mentioned. Never had brand loyalty, just want reliability and value for money.
@Nate-Aims
@Nate-Aims 7 ай бұрын
Apples to oranges when compared to the 4R
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I like the frontier. Every year at the Cleveland auto show I tell my son that the frontier is a nice truck but my problem is with Nissan. You talk about a brand that has fallen off a cliff, it’s Nissan. I don’t trust them.
@Blue-moon12
@Blue-moon12 7 ай бұрын
@triggerhappyreviews Their cars and newer SUVs are poor, but Nissan has always made a decent truck in my opinion. I am by no means a Nissan fan, but the Frontier was all I needed, simple design, no turbos etc. I do own a turbo car so I'm not against them.
@Blue-moon12
@Blue-moon12 7 ай бұрын
​@TRD_Nate When he was talking about the trucks and using 4 cylinder turbos.
@TheCarGuyOnline
@TheCarGuyOnline 7 ай бұрын
Love your videos. It's weird seeing people defend Toyota over the latest Tundra issues. You did right buying that 4runner, has to be the last new vehicle without DI/issues, and still built in Japan. Been looking at them myself but just don't like the prices right now. I own 3 Toyotas and hope they turn it around, the current Tundra is an example of what happens when you don't test the vehicle in the real world.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I watch your videos also. We are making a difference here. Have to be.
@TheCarGuyOnline
@TheCarGuyOnline 7 ай бұрын
@@triggerhappyreviews I think we are looking at the stock piling up on lots and discounts :). One thing I forgot to mention was the kayak/fishing aspect you referenced. I have a 2008 sequoia with the rear window that rolls down like the 4runners. I use that window all the time when I head out to bass fish. Just toss the kayak in, on the road I go. I can't believe they got rid of it in the new sequoia, to your point about them not caring about utility anymore. it's just sad to see the mall crawling focus.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
@TheCarGuyOnline I’m glad you made it that far. Yep. Those little things like tow hooks that seem irrelevant or the back glass, all add up to people designing these trucks that only use them to commute.
@StripedTurkey
@StripedTurkey 7 ай бұрын
Great video, you expressed the exact thoughts I have regarding Toyota trucks!
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
We deserve better!
@philipashley9723
@philipashley9723 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. I bought a Premium off road 4runner in January. I'm 80 years old, I won't be, off roading. I wanted reliability, my son will have this car after me. I'm not interested in bells and whistles, my 4runner is pretty well equipped for me. I don't need a huge center screen, a six inch would do. People complain about mpg, I'm handicapped, I drive the speed limit, I always get to my destination. I'm getting 22.6 mpg, on 50/60 mile journeys. I've been driving for 65 years, and I've driven every type of vehicle. I'm satisfied this is the best car, for my uses. I recommend, anyone, who wants peace of mind, for reliability and, doesn't think they're on a Nascar track, to buy a 4runner.
@MichaelSmith-57
@MichaelSmith-57 7 ай бұрын
I totally understand. I am a Toyota enthusiast as well and have been since I bought my first one in 1983 - a new, Japanese built, Hilux Truck. Well, you and I have done the same thing a number of people are doing - getting one of the best vehicles out there before it disappears. I picked up the same ‘24 TRD Pro in Terra. Hanging onto this one. When someone talks negatively about this vehicle’s gas mileage - you’re right, they don’t understand the 4Runner. The only mileage that is super important to me is the odometer mileage. Yes, it’s a shame what we are seeing happening to these once great vehicles. The ‘24 TRD Pro 4Runner should hold its value for years as with the example of the FJ Cruiser. I am retired and drive for Toyota and am saddened to watch this unnecessary direction they are heading.
@GTHoyaz76
@GTHoyaz76 7 ай бұрын
My 2012 4Runner sr5 now has 200,400 miles and thank God it’s going strong. No issues. Guess I’ll be sticking with it!
@ipfreely456
@ipfreely456 7 ай бұрын
Bought my first Toyota, a brand new 2018 Tacoma TRD sport, having issues with blue smoke coming out of exhaust. The cause was burnt exhaust valves, the dealership replaced the cylinder heads three times and still has the same problem. Truck had 50,800 miles when it happened. $10k out of pocket it had no Issues before that, I’m so very dissatisfied with Toyota as I figured this would be my last purchase for a new vehicle for a long time. Now looking into a 4Runner and see what I can find.
@anthonys5581
@anthonys5581 7 ай бұрын
I ran out and bought a 2023 2.7L 4x4 Tacoma because I knew what was coming. I love my simple little truck and I’m glad I had a chance to get it brand new. I’m going to keep it forever.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Smart
@kt5924-c9r
@kt5924-c9r Ай бұрын
I bought a 21 4Runner TRD off-road premium, and I don't regret a day. It's been 4 years without any issues and very little maintenance. Just oil changes. I won't buy any new toyota tundra and/or tacoma for the same reasons as yours. It's sad to see that Toyota is moving in the wrong direction.
@ToyoDrew
@ToyoDrew 7 ай бұрын
Traded in my 2024 Tacoma on a 2023 4Runner and couldn’t be happier
@gregjoubert5118
@gregjoubert5118 7 ай бұрын
Curious what you didn't like about the Tacoma?
@ToyoDrew
@ToyoDrew 7 ай бұрын
@@gregjoubert5118 and I lost 3,000 on depreciation also the back seat leg room was very small and cramped
@ToyoDrew
@ToyoDrew 7 ай бұрын
The backseat was a little tight on legroom and also I wasn’t using the truck bed all that much it drove good and had no problems with the engine I just found that the 4Runner was a better suit for my lifestyle
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
@user-hf8ie8mf3n 7 ай бұрын
Extremely astute observations, and completely different from the whining others are doing. I think I’m right there with ya. Got my 5th 4runner last week, not interested in the new model, same reasons you mentioned. Sucks about your Tundra though. I know you got a fix, and a nice one, but it still sucks. Tell us about the roof rack sometime. Cheers. 👍🤪🏳️‍🌈
@chezsachchez6772
@chezsachchez6772 7 ай бұрын
Thats why i went 2021 V8 Gas Toyota tundra..I Love it.There is an issue with the liner by the dome light an they still haven't done anything
@Troystoy
@Troystoy 7 ай бұрын
Man I’m with you on everything you said in this video , IMO …Toyota needs to go back to what made them what they are today , not where they are going with all these new models where QDR is gone , as 23 Tacoma pro -23 Camry V-6 XSE owner, these will be my last two Toyotas I buy until something changes with Toyota ! Congratulations on the 24 4Runner TRD PRO !
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Yep. It’s so much more than engine debris. They simply aren’t built like the old ones. I’ll guarantee the new Camry isn’t half the car yours is.
@leec440
@leec440 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t want that new crap neither! Only new vehicle I have ever bought was 23 4Runner and it caused me to buy a low mileage 20 Tundra little over a month ago. Hopefully I won’t have to replace them for many decades
@lnl2000
@lnl2000 7 ай бұрын
Bro, I agree with most of what you said, but don’t forget they got handcuffs on by our government/EPA and if we want to change things, we all gotta go out and vote for any office position, all the way at the top to bottom. I currently owe five Toyota ‘s and have been for three decades and a big fan. I don’t agree where things are going in automotive and everywhere else in US. We need to get involved and Vote🇺🇸 Looking forward of your 4runner content, FYI purchase new one as well in 2023
@segiv4860
@segiv4860 7 ай бұрын
I recently got a 2024 4Runner. Do you guys heading the wrong way with these vehicles. Your statement says it all. “I don’t want Prius in my Tacoma“ Good video
@BDevi0us
@BDevi0us 7 ай бұрын
I actually love that Underground color for the Trdpro 4runner. Yeah I'm absolutely keeping my 2019 Tacoma Trdpro Voodoo blue MT with 38K miles made in San Antonio 💙 No Gen 4 Taco for me! BTW my Trdpro Tacoma cost $42,800 back in 2019 🤣
@davehenry7262
@davehenry7262 7 ай бұрын
My first Toyota was a 1993 Celica GT. Fun to drive, reliable as hell. Traded it in on a 1998 Tacoma SR5. Fun to drive, reliable as hell. Traded it in on a 2005 Tundra TRD Off Road. Fun to drive, reliable as hell. Traded it in on a 2018 Tundra TRD Pro. Fun to drive, reliable as hell. Sadly, like you, unless Toyota gets back to being the Toyota I grew up with & supported, my 2018 Tundra will be the end of the line for me. As soon as I heard the new Tundra was going with a twin turbo set up, I said I'm done.
@Juan0481
@Juan0481 7 ай бұрын
I purchased a 23 trd orp lunar rock when we thought the 4 cylinder turbo was coming in 24. So glad i did.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 7 ай бұрын
The Frontiers are still holding out, unless you want manual transmission (which i definitely understand). And by all accounts, the 3.8 in the Frontier is comparable in reliability to the 3.5 in the last gen Tacomas (2.7 i4 are on another level of reliability)
@shanewhittemore
@shanewhittemore 7 ай бұрын
Well Mr. Trigger Happy, I m too invested with my 70k Tundra to be "done" I wish you were wrong but you are probably right. I am very happy so far with my 2024 Tundra I-Force Max. After the past 3 weeks of failures I may have some rocky roads in front.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I wish you nothing but good luck. I hope it’s the best truck you’ve ever had
@371kenny
@371kenny 7 ай бұрын
Bought a 22 tacoma in 2022. I saw this coming.
@SD-of5kv
@SD-of5kv 7 ай бұрын
almost bought a 2024 sequoia for 74k. I did not like how much plastic was inside of it for that price. the recall news came out the same day I went to the dealership. I ended up getting a 2024 Grand Cherokee L for $9500 off the sticker price. and yes I have a good mechanic, but I haven't experienced issues so far
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Enjoy it!! Beautiful vehicle.
@billseiler4952
@billseiler4952 7 ай бұрын
I purchased my 2024 4Runner Off Road Premium in Underground last weekend…..last call …get em while they are reliable
@Mr.ErikSnake
@Mr.ErikSnake 7 ай бұрын
Great video the Toyota brand choose profits & margins over quality and reliability which they built their reputation 👎🏼👎🏼 trash
@zogmandowsky
@zogmandowsky 7 ай бұрын
Surprising & amazing most manufacturers have decided move ‘green’ at the expense of of reliability and poor ‘low end’ performance. Just bought a brand new Lexus GX460!
@grumman38
@grumman38 7 ай бұрын
We will be keeping our 2020 4 runner, not trading to the new 4 runner. Toyota has lost its way with the Tundra (I own one). Why would Toyota not get input from its buyers? The new Toyotas have exactly non of what the buyer wants.
@michaelrincon559
@michaelrincon559 7 ай бұрын
Got my 2023 trd off road 4runner with KDSS. Not sure if it was a good buy since the most i do is fire roads and the beach but it drives so good. Got it at msrp in 2022 befofe interest rates rose. Already got 28k miles tho. 😅
@duggydo
@duggydo 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, all the manufacturers are going in the same direction. I won't be trading off the trucks I have because nothing new can replace them. All the new rigs are overly complicated and full of plastic.
@WyLEE08
@WyLEE08 7 ай бұрын
As a direct result of owning a 22 Tundra I too bought a 24 4Runner. Now I need an exit strategy to move on from my Tundra but not easy when I consider my loan & loss.😢
@timalan7406
@timalan7406 7 ай бұрын
I bought a 2024 4Runner in January, this is my last new Toyota. I bought a TRD ORP. The only thing missing is dule zone climate control.
@kbk011
@kbk011 7 ай бұрын
How much was dealer invoice? You left out the most exciting part the price
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
$53,900
@FullsendOffroad
@FullsendOffroad 7 ай бұрын
I strongly believe that emissions are the cause behind all of this. And the new engines are part of it, but the quality isn't the same anymore. Maybe the 2025 4Runner and 2024 Land Cruiser will be well off since they are still made in Japan, so quality will probably be excellent. But sure wish we could have these old engines back. Too.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I hope you’re right but when the Lexus division is having similar issues, it’s more than skin deep.
@FullsendOffroad
@FullsendOffroad 7 ай бұрын
@@triggerhappyreviews true. And all Lexus's are made in Japan too. My dad wants to get a 2024 Land Cruiser in a few years once they start depreciating in addition to his 1999. It may even be my truck eventually but either way we aren't getting rid of it. I have plans to buy a V8 4Runner too in a couple years.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
@FullsendOffroad nice!!
@TRONABORON
@TRONABORON 7 ай бұрын
​@@FullsendOffroadOverlanders in South Africa are saying the new Land Cruisers are gutless when fully loaded!
@FullsendOffroad
@FullsendOffroad 7 ай бұрын
@@TRONABORON yeah Africa has a whole different story. You guys have the Prado, 70 series, and if I'm not wrong, the 300 series too, right?
@IReviewIt
@IReviewIt 7 ай бұрын
Maybe Toyota is doing the "New Coke" move. When more and more people speak up and don't buy......they'll go back to the "Original Formula".
@Nate-Aims
@Nate-Aims 7 ай бұрын
You need the oem Toyota safe! I have one in my 24trd pro and I can fit my fn509c tactical , 24rd mag, and extra stuff in there super easily! It’s SOLID! But enjoy your 4R!! It’s my absolute all time favorite vehicle, solid old school feel with new / well established tech, comfy as hell, and an off-road monster! Just too much fun!
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I had a safe in my tundra. Currently looking at options and that’s good to know. The biggest and really only thing I’m missing is under the back seat storage. There was a big spot for long items.
@av8ferg237
@av8ferg237 7 ай бұрын
Bullseye…..spot on. I have three Toyota’s : 4th Gen 4Runner, 5th Gen 4Runner and a 2012’ FJ. I will never buy another Toyota with the recent changes. They won’t reverse course, the boardroom pinheads don’t know their customers just like Bud Light didn’t. My FJ and 23’ 4Runner now have to last the rest of my life.
@UTeeNye
@UTeeNye 7 ай бұрын
5 gen 4 runner is the best truck toyota ever made. build quality is top notch and driving feel with the hydraulic steering is the best. new trucks don’t even have hydraulic steering. i like a good hefty steering with good feel of the ground.
@ShenmueAtheist
@ShenmueAtheist 7 ай бұрын
I bought a 2024 ORP this last winter. Unless Toyota does a 180 on all this hybrid turbo crap, I'll drive my 4runner for the rest of my life. Toyota is turning into Nissan.
@jonesjones7057
@jonesjones7057 7 ай бұрын
And ironically, Nissan is turning into Toyota.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
@jonesjones7057 no I disagree. Nissan just announced they are basically scrapping all ICE engines going forward. They won’t develop any new engines that aren’t electrified. They dumped the titan. Nissan is not a friend to at least my lifestyle. They are pushing EV trash more than any other JDM.
@jonesjones7057
@jonesjones7057 7 ай бұрын
@triggerhappyreviews yeah I agree. I was being a bit sarcastic but it wasn't enough for text. It's a shame Nisssn decided to go that route when they finally had a chance to grab market share from pissed off toyota customers. Just when they had a chance to step up their game, they are snatching defeat from the hands of victory.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Now that I agree with.
@stevenlefebvre2991
@stevenlefebvre2991 7 ай бұрын
I could not agree with you more.
@All-Miles-Matter
@All-Miles-Matter 7 ай бұрын
I guess this guy hasn't discovered the new frontier
@dcl97
@dcl97 7 ай бұрын
I'm a contract engineer and have worked with a lot of different manufacturers. I've only been working since 2013, so maybe they were better before that, but Toyota's TRD stuff has always struck me as nothing but some cheap off the shelf suspension upgrades, a sticker package, some interior bits maybe cheap skid plates too if their feeling generous. Especially after working with some other manufacturers who are touching almost every single component on their performance vehicles. In any case Toyota has put themselves in a weird spot with their incredibly long product cycles. All their TNGA-F products had to play 2-3 generations of catch up in one product cycle, it was a recipe for disaster even for a brand like Toyota.
@GooglePixelGoogle
@GooglePixelGoogle 7 ай бұрын
I'm going to dissagree. Long product cycles tend to help solidify reliabilty. It also helps build a larger aftermarket following that would most likely be limited with a short cycle. Also the TRD stuff for the 4runner was not just off the shelf stuff. It was more than suspension. It was crawl control (multi-terrain select), manual transfer case, and rear locking diff. Some of the stuff that you could not get in the other packages.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Correct. The Pro and off road versions had much more to offer than the standard or sport versions.
@mjuberian
@mjuberian 7 ай бұрын
100% correct... Why does Mike Sweeres still have a job?
@garypope6382
@garypope6382 7 ай бұрын
Turbos allow Toyota to meet the new green deal. Turbos allow for smaller engines and fuel economy and they run cleaner than the N/A. I would avoid them due to the heat generated.
@DavidRC-m9w
@DavidRC-m9w 7 ай бұрын
I was definitely hoping that there would’ve been the 3. 5 L V6 out of the last generation Tacoma get put into the six GEN forerunner, the 3.5 with the 8 speed would be awesome
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 7 ай бұрын
The 4.0 is a far superior engine. The Car Care Nut has compared them and there is quite a difference. Toyota is putting that 4.0 in 70 series Land Cruisers and the 300 series Land Cruiser.
@DavidRC-m9w
@DavidRC-m9w 7 ай бұрын
@@blackwatch7151 the 3.5 L is nothing more than a shorter stroke 4 L the car care nut even stated the same. and remember the 4 L had it share of problems when it was first introduced. Stretched timing, chain, etc. etc. it wasn’t bulletproof until it made it re-introduction until the fifth generation.
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 7 ай бұрын
@@DavidRC-m9w I didn't get that from his video. I remember the 3.5 having more issues according to him. Front cover timing leak, a bad corrosion issue of a cooling line behind the engine that requires the engine to be removed to fix, plastic valve cover gaskets and a sea of plastic and more complication under the hood. The updated 4.0 that went in the 5th gen 4R was a big improvement. If the 3.5 was better it would be put in the 70 series and 300 series Land Cruisers.
@DavidRC-m9w
@DavidRC-m9w 7 ай бұрын
@@blackwatch7151 2GRFKS is bulletproof, the odor ones had problems just like the four later. Engine downsizing is the name of the game with the emissions. But I would take a 2GRFKS option.
@Psichlo1
@Psichlo1 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it isn't that they don't care what their customers want. It is EPA mandates, plain and simple. The same reason that the Hellcat variants of the charger, Jeep, and challenger, camaro, etc are going away is because the EPA wants Internal combustion engines gone so they can force everyone into EV's, but they realize it has to be done slowly. They are forcing the manufacturers to these smaller, overengineered, less reliable engines to "control emissions:. It isn't any different than the "gas guzzler tax" that manufacturers instituted skip shifting, auto stop/start, DoD, AFM, all these systems were implemented to avoid the tax that would tale them out of the market because of pricing. If you think that 70-80k is pricey for a new Tundra, a V8 powered one with penalties would be 100-120k. I agree that the quality of vehicles have gone down exponentially over the last few years and it's not just Toyota, it's all of the major manufacturers. I was in the same boat as you when I had to purchase a vehicle a few weeks ago after an accident that totaled my four wheel drive vehicle. I researched, and the only thing that I could rationally do was go with a 24 $runner, before they were unavailable when the garbage 25 model came out. There is no hope for the V8's coming back, and I suspect quality will continue to slip as the manufacturers struggle to meet this insane fuel efficiency and emission control measures. Welcome to government bureaucracy. Cheers.
@frankpoperowitzmusic
@frankpoperowitzmusic 7 ай бұрын
I sold my 4Runner TRDORP. Why? Sure the vehicle is bullet proof and requires minimal maintenance but fuel economy is terrible. 23 gallon tank, 13-14 MPG, $3.75 average last four years. If you want to get to the trail head or beach say two hours away, you better budget a good $300 for gas. Seriously, unless one really requires a serious off-roader then by all means 4Runner is the best but for the 95% of owners, it makes no economic sense to own one.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
I don’t care about fuel economy.
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 7 ай бұрын
I have had three 4Runners and a couple of hybrid Rav4s along with a ton of other stuff. The 4R gets 20+ mpg if you don't drive it like you stole it and it has emense character. What are the options for something that does similar things? A CRV, RAV maybe a Grand Highlander. You will look and feel like an 80 year old lady driving that around. The 4R still feels like the old school utilitarian trucks Toyota is legendary for.
@johnwebb2232
@johnwebb2232 7 ай бұрын
My 2016 4runner trail has never given me any problems whatsoever, yes it could be better on gas, but you don't buy these vehicles for superb gas mileage. For a vehicle that waighs over two tones and is shaped like a brick, gas mileage is the last thing you're thinking about. I actually don't think it's that bad on gas for what your getting. These vehicles are built like tanks, do pretty much anything you ask of them, and still can rack up half of a million miles. Let alone come out on top with their resale value. To hell with the gas mileage, I want a vehicle that can do it all. Love my 4runner.
@GooglePixelGoogle
@GooglePixelGoogle 7 ай бұрын
@@blackwatch7151 Wow I have never even been close to getting 20+ mpgs in my 2017 4runner TRDOR. I don't hotrod my vehicle either.
@badazzcorvette8970
@badazzcorvette8970 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree 👍
@DavidWX877
@DavidWX877 7 ай бұрын
I would never buy a V6 in a full size truck to start with. You can go over to Ford, RAM, GMC etc and buy a full size truck with a V8. They all still have it.
@sugarray8212
@sugarray8212 7 ай бұрын
100% preach
@boosttv5688
@boosttv5688 7 ай бұрын
Smart. Only New Toyota truck left to buy
@Sasquatchflow
@Sasquatchflow 7 ай бұрын
I love the underground colour!! 😍
@markreams3192
@markreams3192 7 ай бұрын
You may not care about emissions or power numbers or gas mileage but the federal government requires that Toyota and every other manufacturer care about these things. As far as power numbers go most consumers want the power. The only way to make the power and satisfy federal requirements is small displacement turbocharged engines. Without these requirements Toyota would have kept the 5.7 V8 forever as well as the 3.5 V6. Toyota didn’t make these changes to piss off consumers. They didn’t have a choice. Federal mandates made the choices necessary. Large displacement naturally aspirated engines cannot meet federal air quality standards. Smaller engines can’t supply the power consumers want without adding a turbo. This is what the future holds for all light duty trucks. As far as the Tundra goes, Toyota laid a big fat rotten egg! They probably need to start from scratch! BTW, that 4.0 V6 and 5 speed trans in your 4Runner date back to the gen 2 Tacoma. This shows how long Toyota hangs on to a power train that works until they’re forced to change!
@MetalMike2112
@MetalMike2112 7 ай бұрын
Nissan Still Putting V8 In Titan.
@Trucker2083
@Trucker2083 7 ай бұрын
That's not true
@GooglePixelGoogle
@GooglePixelGoogle 7 ай бұрын
@@MetalMike2112 2024 is the last year for the Titan. The Nissan Titan is done, it did not sell well, and Nissan was not going to invest in the technology to update it.
@GooglePixelGoogle
@GooglePixelGoogle 7 ай бұрын
I agree, Toyota needed to prepare themselves for the 2027 CAFE requirements. The Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) system sets fleetwide efficiency targets. People gripe that Toyota should keep a V8 like Ford or Chevrolet. What they don't understand is that Ford balanced gas guzzlers like the F-150 Coyote and Raptor R with EVs like the Mustang Mach-E and F-150 Lightning. Toyota is not going to do that, and they had to implement a new engine, like it or not. There will be teething pains, BUT, that is why I have always told people to NEVER, EVER, EVER, buy a 1st or 2nd model year vehicle. I have made that mistake twice and it was a hard lesson to learn.
@anuar1735
@anuar1735 7 ай бұрын
Why Nissan still doing it?
@andy84wilson
@andy84wilson 7 ай бұрын
2017 Land Cruiser, 2023 Tacoma TRD OffRoad and 1987 4runner are some of the vehicles I own. Won't be buying any of the new stuff.
@genes.3285
@genes.3285 7 ай бұрын
I think I heard you say that you're okay with three cylinders in a car. If so, that's surprising.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
It’s an enthusiast car. It’s meant to be very fast. Practical? No. But what it does, it does very well.
@Pdpawlak
@Pdpawlak 7 ай бұрын
I think Toyotas hands were tied with the emission and mpg restrictions by the gooberment. These high sprung turbo 4 bangers in a truck aren’t good.
@bryandunn4886
@bryandunn4886 7 ай бұрын
With you 100 percent 👍🏽
@Fred-kr5fs
@Fred-kr5fs 7 ай бұрын
I mostly blame the government mandates on emissions and fuel economy and rising cost putting them in a tuff spot .Nobody makes a good long lasting reliable vehicle now . I will be driving my 21 Tundra till I bite the dust !
@GooglePixelGoogle
@GooglePixelGoogle 7 ай бұрын
That is the key. Government regulation, like it or not, increases prices an everything it touches. There is one more thing though that many people don't think about. Toyota can only charge what people are willing to pay in a free market economy. Therefore if people would stop paying what most of us see as crazy prices, the manufacturer would have to cut costs and deliver a different product. In reality, people are still willing to go into debt with a 6-10 year loan instead of just walking away and buying something older and used. I have not bought a new car since 2017, and I don't plan on buying another one at this point. It's not that I enjoy driving older cars, I just find that even if the car is complicated, it's still much cheaper to repair than buying a new vehcile.
@davidchenette1091
@davidchenette1091 7 ай бұрын
I love my 2024 tacoma TRD off-road they give 30,000 dollars trade in on my 2018 tacoma SR5 with 30,360 miles on it the new one out the door I paid 47,280 dollars
@vubui4380
@vubui4380 7 ай бұрын
Amen brother!
@TRDTalk
@TRDTalk 7 ай бұрын
That colour is awesome!
@LLcreeker
@LLcreeker 7 ай бұрын
I bought a 2024 4runner 2 months ago, the day after I saw the 2025s were announced with the new turbocharged engines. like you, it will likely be the last toyota I buy. why pay a premium for toyotas when the quality isnt there anymore? I also still have my 2007 4Runner with a V8, hanging on to that until it dies.
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 7 ай бұрын
So sad what happened to Toyota. All these recalls on the new Toyota are mostly engine problems. On one channel the guy is mentioning, that instead of sending the dealers a new box engine. Instead, Toyota only send certain parts and they want the mechanics there to tear into the engine and put the new parts in and replace the old defective parts. A lot of mechanics are not up to the doing that interior tear-down very technical work inside the engine. And people are now also mentioning the interior workmanship, and the materials that Toyota is now using are of cheaper quality. All this and a much higher cost vehicle compared to last year.
@FullsendOffroad
@FullsendOffroad 7 ай бұрын
What doesn't make sense is that the engine is made in the same place that the V8 was made. This recall couldve happened to the V8 as well. I understand that these trucks still aren't as good as we wish and too expensive for what they are, but c'mon man. People are overreacting.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
The whole thing is a mess. Pretty sad. One thing you mentioned, and I’m going to as well when I do a proper video on the 4runner, is how much better the plastics are. And they fit better too. It’s not even close either. Far superior.
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 7 ай бұрын
@@triggerhappyreviews Nice
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 7 ай бұрын
@@FullsendOffroad How can you say people are overacting when there are 125,000 new trucks being recalled by the manufacturer themselves 😳❔️ These new trucks recalled by #Toyota, that is no over reaction.
@FullsendOffroad
@FullsendOffroad 7 ай бұрын
@@icosthop9998 the same thing could have happened to the V8. It's the same plant. This stuff happens.
@kurtbeck5809
@kurtbeck5809 7 ай бұрын
Well stated
@rayhabib7241
@rayhabib7241 7 ай бұрын
Yes
@dougnichols3358
@dougnichols3358 7 ай бұрын
CEO should get fired.
@vubui4380
@vubui4380 7 ай бұрын
New generations don’t care about their parents company.
@richardgeere3858
@richardgeere3858 7 ай бұрын
It doesnt matter now which suvs or truck you chose to buy, because they're all the same plastic junks anyway.
@GooglePixelGoogle
@GooglePixelGoogle 7 ай бұрын
There has always been plastic junk. In the 70's I drove plastic junk. In the 80's I drove plastic junk. In the 90's I drove plastic junk. In the early 2000's I drove plastic junk, honestly my newer 4runner is much nicer than any of those old cars. Cars have gotten better over time, they are just more complicated now. Older cars were easier to work on, but they had their own set of issues that had to be repaired (that is why we had mechanic shops back then). I know this because I lived it, the good old days were not as good as peoples selective memory tells them. My fleet and issues: 1972 Gran Torino Sport (carb and distributer issues, main bearing retainer failed on the toploader 4spd), 1983 Mailbu Classic (never ran right, would not idle, removed the smog equipment and it ran a little better but never 100%), 1984 Cavalier (total junk mobile with engine failure), 1987 Dodge Van (ran great no issues), 1989 Camry (burned oil), 1991 5.0 Mustang (no issues), 1996 Mustang GT (cracked intake @ 11k miles, 4R70W lost OD @ 120K miles), 1996 Toyota Avalon (still have it 90K miles, rack and pinion replaced), 1997 GMC K2500 (spider injection failure, hydrolocked twice destroying an engine. I'm on the third injector set), 1998 Ford Ranger (constant electrical issues), 2004 Ford Exploder (transmision replaced twice at 120K miles), 2008 Lexus GX470 (no issues), 2014 lexus GX460 (No isseus), 2012 Mustang GT (main bearing failure @ 120K, but it was raced), and 2017 Toyota 4runner (No issues).
@TechJedi29
@TechJedi29 7 ай бұрын
I think Toyota is bottom of the barrel on reliability now ... They had no reason to change platforms and they do why ??? Sacrifice your entire brand for a few dollars ?
@NotYoCheese714
@NotYoCheese714 7 ай бұрын
Put a supercharger on it
@TheKingInHiding
@TheKingInHiding 7 ай бұрын
Jealous of your ‘24 Pro, and its latest features (heated steering wheel, trail cam)👊🏻 I have a ‘20 Pro and I suspect Toyota has actually been having quality issues for a while now. I’ll link my video below, but I am on my third master cylinder. Also, watch out for the tailgate rust issue while you are under warranty. It is NOT weather or salt related…but a garnish part issue. Toyota has a TSB addressing it. Everything else in my video is dealership-caused BS. Cheers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqCQfHehrZ2Xg9Esi=Zn7E-eQ16gxyjbj4
@timalan7406
@timalan7406 7 ай бұрын
Toyota now make trucks for favorable reviews from worthless, self aggrandize media outlets. Toyota folded! They make trucks for women- a softer, gentler market.
@kyleAGB
@kyleAGB 7 ай бұрын
Never go full cope
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Speak like an adult
@philipkolatis3611
@philipkolatis3611 7 ай бұрын
Blame the government on emission standards and weight of the cars and safety guidelines but I am still scratching my head on your problems I had 2022 and 2023 and now 2024 tundra no problems what so ever 12k on the 22 and 10k on 23 just don't understand maybe bad luck on your end
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
You don’t know about the tundra recall? 2 of your 3 trucks are likely going to need a new engine soon.
@philipkolatis3611
@philipkolatis3611 7 ай бұрын
@triggerhappyreviews the recall does not apply to the 24 models or the hybrid not worried at all have complete trust in toyota and there trucks they did the right thing and coming out the the recall and it will probably affect about 1% of the total trucks that were sold just like the waste gate issue
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Feel free to think whatever you want. But I’m one of thousands that had issues with these trucks. It’s not 1%. It’s way way more than that.
@genes.3285
@genes.3285 7 ай бұрын
Of course, that's very little mileage on both of those vehicles.
@nxtgen2b416
@nxtgen2b416 7 ай бұрын
You can now call Toyota a part of the big three and have the same reputation of the big three ! Sad day.
@Sasquatchflow
@Sasquatchflow 7 ай бұрын
More plastic more profit 👎🏻
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 7 ай бұрын
pretty much
@elmocotaco995
@elmocotaco995 7 ай бұрын
@elmocotaco995 0 seconds ago Carvana value on my 2022 Trd pro Tacoma went up $5400 from last month. Think they know something lol. Can’t wait for my 22 4runner pro to be worth 70k next year
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 7 ай бұрын
Which is exactly why I thought the Pro in Terra. It could have been banana yellow and I was buying the special color. Maximum resale value.
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