My New 2DR Bronco VS My 2DR Wrangler*OffRoad Test*

Finally! We can compare some offroad action between both my Bronco and my Wrangler! Let me know how you think the B-Ronco did! I hope you guy's enjoy the video! Remember to LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE!
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[@zachariahyager3115]

Best comparison video I’ve seen yet and none of that filler talk we already know about. Great job.

[@drivenmad2089]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@likeorasgod]

Lite Brite did one with a slightly modded Bronco (custom lift and bigger tires) and they made sure to remind folks that their wrangler has about 100K mods to it so you couldn't do a straight up comparison. Though they where pretty legit with the review. What I keep hating is they keep trying to compare the Bronco Sport to the Cherokee. Sorry it's stats are way closer to the Renegade not the Cherokee. Cherokee sits more in the middle of the two Bronco models.

[@fastdude2002]

The Lite Brite comparison demonstrated that IFS suspension on the Bronco is inferior to solid axle when it comes to rock crawling as the solid axle is much stronger. IFS works great on road and open high speed desert running as it rides smother. It comes down to what you want to do with your rig.

[@dupton8000]

Lite-Brite also took their non-modified fully stock Rubicon on all the same Trails they tested the Bronco on before they modded out their now very capable Rubicon. And can I mention they quickly modified their Rubicon stepchild Wrangler from 35 to 38 with a VERY inexpensive lift. And the step child performed flawlessly. It can be done and has been done with the Bronco but get ready to empty the savings account. IFS is $$$

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

That was great! Fair and balanced review and I can’t wait till my buddy gets his Bronco so we can do the same… although based on this, it appears it’ll be driver vs driver 😂

[@drivenmad2089]

Yeah having driven both, the driver can definitely make the difference. when I take the bronco on more trails we'll see how it does. either way you guys are gonna have a blast! Thanks for watching!

[@xzysyndrome]

Driver is half the battle...and with two capable rigs...it is hard to pin down Rig vs. Driver. Love my Jeep...sure wish I had a Bronco too.

[@AustinH7]

Air down those tires more, 20 is pretty damn high for what you were doing

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep, the KO2’s like to be at about 15. Next we’ll make sure they’re where they need to be. Thanks for watching dude!

[@Reecesavage-Alwayswin]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@robertscharfe9879]

Yup 15 perfect

[@tristansundquist1834]

Can’t get down with the IFS.

[@benfox9208]

I don’t think the bronco is in the same league as a rubicon

[@mikerobinson8734]

Solid axle’s… nuff said…

[@panzer948]

Great true to reality comparison. Both very capable vehicles. I am a long time Jeep owner (owned a CJ since 1990...). But I am really enjoying my new Badlands for the onroad behavior. You can't go wrong with either vehicle and having them compete will just improve the product for us end users :)

[@drivenmad2089]

You’re right hard to go wrong with either choice! Thanks for watching!

[@Johnnyscarcarereviews]

Well said!

[@carebear2272]

That problem with lifting a small two door makes the center of gravity lighter, so there not enough weight on the tires to get traction, I have been 4x4 for 40 years and I go low and slow

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep. something to be said for only adding larger tires instead of a lift. Thanks for watching!

[@alec4699]

Sooo, youre saying the vehicle is lighter? lol......negative... Lifting a vehicle effects the center of gravity making it less stable in off camber situations... Sway bars can affect weight distribution to individual tires. Nothing about the center of gravity makes the vehicle weigh less. Its the moronic people who think lifting a vehicle is the first thing one should do for capability . LCOG builds do exist ^.^

[@Rogue.Rider0]

Spotters absolutely get on my last nerve

[@ms52499]

Like the looks of that 2 door Bronco vs the 4 door. Bronco performed well and looks like a capable rig. Very happy with my Rubicon but love to see some legitimate competition. Good or all of us.

[@drivenmad2089]

100%! Competition is great for all of us! Thanks for watching!

[@twsantacruzify]

Jeep is definitely a better hard core off road vehicle although the Sasquatch makes it competitive

[@paulmartinez1176]

At 7:40 the Bronco took a line more to the right. That avoided the front passenger tire from going down into the hole a few inches to the left. You can clearly see that hole at 8:15 on the Wrangler approach, and the Wrangler passenger tire going into it.

[@dieselkralemann6132]

That would make it easier for the wrangler to get over it. That bronco I just a beast

[@FieldWorxoverlandadventures]

Nice jeep👍

[@drivenmad2089]

Thanks! And thanks for watching!

[@randytrivitt6539]

@@drivenmad2089 My Option is going to be the bronco manual and if it don't have the lockers I would like to put in, limited lock front diff gears and rear diff gears!! I believe that would be nice if they make them for the bronco probably even better than electric diff locks!! Love the video thanks so much for the video!! Found what I was looking for thanks so much!... 💯❤️🤍💙👍👍🙌

[@VegasRobzilla]

both good vehicles but a front solid axel is stronger and flexes more and thats what you wan't when rock crawling

[@drivenmad2089]

I agree. but the bronco did better than I expected. Especially compared to other IFS vehicles like a 4 runner. Which I've watched struggle and not be able to go up those same obstacles. Thanks for watching!

[@Olive_Chap]

Bronco is really amazing for the price

[@tristansundquist1834]

That is when prices go down. Trying to find a bronco at MSRP right now is ridiculous. You can buy a base model Rubicon or even a V8 wrangler for the prices that some of these Broncos are going for. I saw one the other day that was $76,000 and it looked no different from a sport package wrangler.

[@chicnwing4519]

Independent front suspension ..it will never compare to a wrangler

[@kamikazekunze]

Thing looks more like a Scout than a Bronco.

[@drivenmad2089]

Even the original Bronco looked just like the scout. kinda odd haha

[@rjeepster8640]

The bronco creeks like a rusty screw door!! The flex is better on the wrangler. Better visibility from the Jeep. I will stick with the Jeep!

[@mkbmj]

Hate to say it, but these comparisons aren’t fair. You should put the same tires on both vehicles, help decide what role rubber plays in it.

[@DUNEATV]

Just can’t get passed the Independent Front Suspension on the Bronco. SEMA is full of Solid Axle swap Bronco’s for a reason.

[@zachariahyager3115]

Eh it’s better in most cases and even with the rocks if you have lockers you’re all good.

[@bjornironsides6474]

If it was my daily, I'd much rather have IFS. Glad they did it since it can still do the Rubicon even though 99% of people only do light off road. Ford made the do anything comfortably vehicle. Jeeps are still awesome though.

[@D3thM3tal]

I feel ya there as a hardcore wheeler myself but the driving impressions are night and day between the wrangler and the bronco. Very few people are going to need the solid axle vs what many complain about the wrangler is that it isn't fun to drive and anything approaching 80 just isn't fun. I had out 4 door badlands sasquatch doing 100+ (say that in a Jeep!) and it was fantastic at that speed, it's hard to think for how sporty and well it handles that it is on 35's. I know I'm going to pickup a 2 door for my daily/wheeler and I'll see how far the IFS goes and swap to a Super 44 when the IFS gets expensive to keep together.

[@DUNEATV]

I own a 2021 Rubicon 2dr. It drives great…funny how people make it out like it’s sooo bad! Lol, the steering feels tight and drives beautiful. The Jeep Wrangler is so good that I think it’s the only thing people can say bad about it to make themselves feel better.

[@trailrunnah8886]

@@DUNEATV the funny thing is, twenty years ago they were putting solid axles in the front of Grand Cherokees, Jeep's luxury vehicle. I had one, and it drove great when it was stock. Once I started messing with it with cheap lift components I kind of screwed it up.

[@StubProductions]

Bronco for the win! And I’m not a Ford fan. I think the lift negatively affected the Jeep

[@job38four10]

The older Bronco's look better......

[@johnt6673]

Kinda funny you say that. Ford scanned the original bronco to make basically the modern day version. So, not much of a difference overall.

[@sharkiesgirl8929]

Resale value better on old ones these depreciate super fast. Anything with 4 cy ecoboost wont be worth anything. Be lucky to get 8,000 from dealer who will sell it for 12.,000. Till noone buys it and it goes to auction..

[@GhostlyGhille]

@@sharkiesgirl8929 "These depreciates really bad" ... First these are brand new not a huge sample on resale to get that info. Second the used car market is hella inflated, not much of anything (other than lyxury) is depreciating fast. 3rd most people selling theyre broncos are selling them used for 5k over msrp after miles. Fourth, First editions are selling for 2x msrp on auction and private sales.

[@J23-x7x]

@@sharkiesgirl8929 chill xD

[@wheelzwheela]

I like the retro styling, but yeah, the old ones are cooler.

[@sticrzy123]

IFS stands for aka independent front suspension actually stands for IT FUCKING SUCKS

[@brentruss2168]

Tell Ferd to replace the sway-bar disconnect with a unit that, upon entering that mode, mechanically drives the opposite wheel down in proportion to the compression of one front wheel like a solid axle does. All it takes is some sensors and software for the best traction all day.. Then, go full independent suspension for a comfy ride and precise on-road handling, and you still have "solid axle" like off-road performance when you want it in the boonies at the push of a button. All it takes is money, I suppose. And smart engineering. Great honest comparison, thank you.

[@jamesmoros1274]

Wish Ford Australia brought the BRONCO IN OZ 🙂

[@StarstoneSilvermoon]

When it comes down to it, the ability to drive and use its capabilities makes the most difference. Im a jeeper. Sorry Ford.

[@BigManAlaska]

Both amazing vehicles. I did find it incredibly interesting how the jeep performed differently with the two inch lift vs without. Looked like it far more approach bounce compared to without the lift.

[@drivenmad2089]

Yeah I think it was a combination of the spring rate being to stiff, and the tires not being aired down as much (usually run 15PSI) Thanks for watching!

[@xzysyndrome]

I have a 2d Rubicon...I subscribe to the Low Center of Gravity school...vs. 6" lifts and 40's...mostly because I am a broke ass lmao.

[@Nahhmah]

It was the tires, one was more worn

[@olliechristopher467]

Thank you Dakota!! Toward the end of your video the stock lift vs 2" lifted 2 door Wrangler was eye opening. With the 2" lift the body roll seems less and rig looks more stable. Really good comparison. And no big deal not able to "stick" the obstacles first few tries vs last time you did. Terrain changes all the time from use, weather, etc.

[@drivenmad2089]

Appreciate it man! Thanks for watching!

[@CrowCreekOutdoors]

Like modern out of the box hunting rifles are capable of more accuracy than most shooters can get out of them, modern out of the box off-road vehicles like these two are capable of more than most drivers can do with them.

[@drivenmad2089]

Pretty accurate. Especially when you consider that the majority of people who buy these will not take them off-road. Which is sad and pointless because they’re are better daily drivers out there if you have 0 plans to do any off-roading haha. Thanks for watching!

[@CrowCreekOutdoors]

@@drivenmad2089 True. They wait until they’re paid for & half worn out before they get off road with them much. That’s how I was with my F-150.

[@cosrin]

the tiers on the lifted 2 door JLR were not deflated enough, you can easily notice the tires on the no lift jl embrace the rocks versus the bouncing lifted JL

[@ksb2112]

The wheel base on the Bronco is also slightly longer, which may have allowed the front tires to get better traction before the rear tires hit the rock.

[@Holt333]

Surprised with the BRONCO👍 I have the 2-Door JK AND it DEF looks like it’s going to be some good competition! Owning Both would be ideal. The BRONCO Badlands in 4-Door and the JEEP 2-Door💪🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻👍

[@drivenmad2089]

Oh yeah definitely some good completion. Which is good for us consumers! Thanks for watching!

[@evopx4storm]

Bronco wins by huge margin. They have the most vehicles with broken CV joints as of this time.

[@VincentGilligan]

You should do a video of what will fit in the back of the Bronco as you did with the Jeep. I really want a 2dr but I'm worried I won't be able to sleep in the back (with a ledge built up to make it flush with the seats). Keep up the good work Brother.

[@drivenmad2089]

Appreciate it man! And that’s on the list of videos to make!

[@dailylife3975]

Perfect video

[@drivenmad2089]

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

[@apexlegends_ab1508]

Cool video. Thanks! Question.. Getting my badlands soon hopefully. So when trailing or crawling you only engage the lockers when you need them? I honestly thought u were supposed to have them all locked all the time. Sorry, first timer here.

[@bendmacmanufacturing2744]

I'm glad I own a Rubicon , my friend s Bronco is becoming a total lemon , he should have waited for bugs to be worked out !!!

[@mkbmj]

Without any details, all you’re doing is telling us how you made a bad choice, but are trying to make yourself feel better.

[@fireant1272]

It's a ford its almost common sense not to buy one.

[@adamriner213]

What problems is the bronco having

[@jeffforbes70]

@@mkbmj don't see there was a choice . most are still waiting

[@mkbmj]

@@jeffforbes70 I’m still waiting. After spending a ton of money on top of the $50K purchase price my 2020 Rubicon still sucked so bad I had to dump it

[@Johnnyscarcarereviews]

Cool video. I subscribed.

[@drivenmad2089]

Thanks man! Appreciate it!

[@TheShift1313]

2 d bronco looks so much better than the 4 door!

[@drivenmad2089]

100% agree! Thanks for watching!

[@geneclemetson4779]

Finally, some two door life!! Enough with that 4 door poser crap!

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

I think the bronco is a beautiful and capable vehicle but I think jeep still edges it out on capability

[@jupatritri1]

If you had to pick just one, which one would you keep and why ?

[@drivenmad2089]

I actually just posted a video about that exact question! Slight little twist at the end

[@kholdstare15]

So tired of people asking if the Bronco is better than a wrangler. The Bronco was literally redesigned and brought back to compete with the Wrangler. It should be better in every aspect. If not then Ford fucked up.

[@dano8065]

Yep! Ford hasn’t had a off road vehicle that could compete with Jeep for over 40 years and they jumped back in the game trying to one up Jeep and caught jeep asleep but now it’s jeeps turn to respond. They will and it will benefit all the off road community.

[@dano8065]

@KFC Man I think it out performed a lot of peoples expectations out of the box but as you said it’s really more directed at the desert racing Baja crowd IMO. Really won’t know it’s true capabilities until the new fad wears off and people start trying to build them like the Jeep community and see how all the gadgets react and the cost to make a serious wheeler out of it. I’m sure the soccer moms will love them just like Jeep or hummer or Land Rover. Lol

[@longrider188]

8:55 I'd call it "Arty the articulation rock".

[@drivenmad2089]

Haha that’s a good one!

[@EpicConspiracy]

If I’m spending money I’m buying the bronco. It looks new and high tech while the Jeep looks like something you buy on the used car lot because you can’t afford much more.

[@mikeogden5256]

Cooler yes better no

[@fordfiveohh]

But it doesn't have all four tires firmly on the ground... It's diving on the sidewall of the front passenger tire ... Solid axle is not better... It just usually has more suspension travel simply because the fulcrum is on the other side of the car instead of in the middle of the car... That's pretty much where it ends... One of the reasons that independent suspension was built was to keep both tires flat on the ground. That's the point.

[@n5sdm]

Amature......stock tj stock tires, (swaybar discoed) No damage. Gold bar rim. Poison spider. Flat iron mesa. 7 mile rim. Wipeout hill. Metal masher. Gemini bridge before it was closed. Ect..... Your "stuck" jeep was not on the same line. Damn near a whole tire width off. If you could not tell that the front tire and back tire were trying to climb an edge at the same time as the reason It was struggling you really need to learn how to off road. However.....(sadly) this was one of the best and fairest matched comparison videos I have seen. Keep it up.

[@ohroonoko]

The Bronco is superior. Not only does it go over all terrain, it’s prettier, roomier, more comfortable and cooler. I don’t know why anyone would buy a Wrangler over a Bronco at this point. RIP JEEP WRANGLER.

[@chenyang9565]

Seems like the suspension of Jeep needs to be adjusted. Fast rebound and compression will cause too much up-down swing while trying to climb big step rocks, the rebound will make the car jump backward once you hit the rock but have not fully climbed on it. Sorry about my terrible English, I hope you can understand. Cheers.

[@RougaRouKJun]

Why is anyone doing this comparison video? No one is doing an independent front suspension swap into a jeep. The bronco can't keep it's tires on the ground. It's sad because I wanted there to be a real competitor for the wrangler but Ford didn't do the 1 thing that mattered. Basically the bronco should be getting compared to a 4runner. Not a wrangler unless you do a solid front axel swap into one. The recovery groups I'm apart of on Facebook rescue these things all the time cause they're beached somewhere on an easy obstacle. They also left out several obstacle attempts from the bronco that they showed the jeep doing.

[@FYI455]

100% id take bronco over wrangler The bronco also looks amazing and each trim has a different look but for the wrangle, no matter what trim you get they all look alike kinda looks boring We need to see the bronco raptor vs Jeeps wrangler highest trim.

[@SPN16]

Don't be harsh on yourself, my wife is a Bronco gal I'm a Wrangler guy, you did perfect it was probably just the 20 psi instead of your usual 15 psi. Excellent comparison! As a Wrangler guy since I'm a 5 year old to now being 31 in March, I'll be happy to see Broncos hit the trails!

[@jensenredd4939]

13:07 you should’ve just bumped the ledge. Sitting there spinning isn’t going to do anything you got to hit it with a little bit of momentum.

[@bmarie8965]

I don't deserve the 2018 Rubicon recon I just bought because I don't want to off-road it too hard if at all. 😅😅

[@kashankirk]

Dude, ur driving sux. Dont just start to climb, then stop and start the obstacle from there. Stop just before hitting it then maintain / increase momentum, not the opposite

[@mikee2290]

Why did you add a rock for the mini ledge rather than engage your locker🥲? Articulation is fine with the lockers engaged you can spend all day locked in the rocks.

[@winterfar2814]

Seems like the ground clearance of the Bronco is very low. They all just seem to look off to me, the 2door is the best imo though.

[@brianflynn6421]

Why can’t u guys put the bronco thru some hard stuff, u guys don’t go thru tall rocks or deep mud, like a wrangler or xj

[@johncronin2084]

Hi to say an honest comparison,but the elephant in the room is the Bronco has all the curb appeal of a soggy beer box and no matter how it preforms I for one would never buy one to be honest.

[@whatroads4x4]

Wrangler better but then again im prolly biased. To me that bronco front end is ugly. The wrangler front end is iconic and will be for the rest of time

[@georgejetson1923]

Only 1 minute into it and both vehicles ruined by driving through muddy water. No better way to destroy a vehicle than that.

[@robertcurtis1112]

So which is the better vehicle off road, muddying, on sand, and rock climbing?

[@dennislilley3190]

Is this fair? Cause the wrangler isn’t 100% stock. Either way great video

[@SerhanB]

and another channel with unnecessary music in ther vids....was actually promising until 1:15

[@jerrymcgeorge4117]

The KO2s on the JL are a disadvantage on stuff like that.

[@drivenmad2089]

A little, which is why I showed when I previously went up those obstacles with no issues on the same tires. I think it was a combination of not airing down enough on the KO2’s and clearly I sucked at driving that day😂. Thanks for watching!

[@jerrymcgeorge4117]

@@drivenmad2089 Lol! Great video!

[@jneptune1540]

Wranglers are for fanboys. They ll drive a u haul moving trucks if it had a following

[@apexjeep8861]

The bronco got a tinny bump on the rock 8:20 when the jeep was going up it never got a bump

[@cyrilwingnek-qw1ik]

Everyone thinks they are regis Everyone! You are exactly like regis

[@bobcole3852]

Thought they already stopped making the new bronco....

[@osu3221]

Give me a manual tranny and I'll do that with no 4 wheel drive. But I'm a hillbilly.

[@EricJohnson-tb9sj]

Does the wrangler have lockers? And what size tires on the Bronco??

[@danielm4619]

Hidden falls is a fun park to test them out at. I’d like to see them on some harder trails out there.

[@drivenmad2089]

That’ll definitely happen! Thanks for watching!

[@anonanongamemaster9721]

What trails did y’all hit? I plan on getting a badlands 2 dr and want to hit hidden falls with it.

[@verygerry3719]

What’s with the annoying background music…lol ?

[@angelogiannikos6657]

Great video... can't wait to see more Wrangler vs Bronco with upgrades

[@drivenmad2089]

All to come! got some cool stuff planned just need the time off from work haha Thanks for watching!

[@AmericanFry]

Do u know how to air down tires??? Doesn’t look like it how disappointing

[@bigdaddy2955]

Maybe you could call it baby the rock tiny, or Justin Beiber.

[@hughwolfe1176]

Good comparison between the two vehicles. I’ve seen a few four door Broncos locally, they’re really large vehicles… It’s not to surprising that the Broncos a fairly capable vehicle considering all of the other vehicles Ford had to imitate from.

[@DavidLBrown-rm2mm]

I honestly think both of em are very capable vehicles and I honestly like both. Good to see someone doing a comparison and not just bashing one over the other.

[@drivenmad2089]

They're both definitely very capable. looking for ward to testing them together more out in Moab! Thanks for watching!

[@Val_Nikon]

"Channeling my inner jermy clarkson" lmao 🤣 i love this part

[@tacosnachosburritos]

Love your videos. I’ve always been curious, what do you do for a living? You have so many cool toys.

[@drivenmad2089]

Thanks man appreciate it! And I’m a sales manager Thanks for watching!

[@dailylife3975]

Plus you can drag the rear tire in the Bronco for turning

[@Iamfirebird360]

If they made a solid axel bronco I'd be all over it.

[@carlosr1060]

You are a brave man. I would not have the courage to put those 2 new beauties through that torturous terrain.

[@drivenmad2089]

Well it’s what they’re built for haha but I can understand that. The very first time I took my wrangler off-road I was super nervous. Thanks for watching!

[@EricJohnson-tb9sj]

Ok.. just heard the Bronco tire size!

[@damnjustassignmeone]

I think you’re a more experienced off roader. Plus two people in the Jeep and tires over inflated. So not quite apples to apples maybe.

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep definitely think the tires needed to be aired down more for sure. The jeeps tires being a E load range like to be at 15psi. Thanks for watching!

[@christopherrolandgeorgecow1885]

The only concern I have with the bronco is will the engine fail like they always do in the cars after even under 10,000 miles

[@christopherrolandgeorgecow1885]

And yes I am aware of the v8 and big block engine of the ford are better but it is still a concern I have

[@yijunpeng7524]

bronco is a little bit more capable than wrangler .

[@velazquezjaime149]

Both vehicles are awesome!

[@drivenmad2089]

Yep! cant go wrong with either! but both is the best haha Thanks for watching!

[@dannyjudge2876]

It’s disappointing that not as many people bought a manual as as many people got excited about it. Probably going to cut production

[@drivenmad2089]

Possibly, I would’ve bought the manual had it been available with the Sasquatch package and the V6. Didn’t want a non Sasquatch 4 cylinder. But seeing as ford added the manual available for the Sasquatch for 2022, enough people complained so maybe it won’t be effected.

[@tigolbitties8352]

This is an excellent comparison between the two. Really helped me decide. Looking at base model manuals now

[@drivenmad2089]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

[@TJA-AZ]

Awesome video! On trails like these, is there any reason to keep the diffs open? Or would it be better to just keep them locked the entire ride?

[@drivenmad2089]

You don’t want to keep them in for the entirety of the trail. It will do damage to the vehicle like that. When you’re turning around and maneuvering and what not. You only use them when you encounter an obstacle you think you’ll need them for them turn them on, get over the obstacle then turn them off. It will be really hard in the driveline and differentials.

[@blackprimetoys7090]

Just give me a Bronco for the look, only off road im doing is at the beachfront lol

[@drivenmad2089]

Haha it does look good! In person they look great. Thanks for watching!

[@Vidishish]

I think Chrysler is watching and saying get to work make the Jeep better we have competition!

[@drivenmad2089]

100% which means we get even more awesome jeeps as consumers! Thanks for watching!

[@Bigstevesmb]

I'll take the Bronco over the Wrangler

[@cgsquash]

Kill the music how f'n annoying

[@Aliencreep369]

Jeep are not jeep anymore we call that a fiat

[@alec4699]

Bronco Sasquatch is a nice package for beginners.. Itll never be able to compete with the wrangler unless you heavily modify it.. Like completely doing away with the IFS

[@kevinhollenbeck7503]

Maybe you should check out this video to see how the Bronco compares to a highly modified Jeep. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJK7aneiqteleM0

[@christopherbennett4559]

Great video been on the fence for a while. Love both of them.👍👍👍👍

[@drivenmad2089]

Thanks man! And you can’t go wrong with either one. Just depends on your preferences they each have good and bad points

[@jakey20022]

No the Ford definitely is not better.