My New Favorite Keyboard! |Studiologic SL88 Studio Review!|

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John Mike

John Mike

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@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
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@miltonsaucedo2223
@miltonsaucedo2223 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your videos. I have learned more about useful gear from you than any other channel by fAr!!. One question plz. Do you think one can become a competent pianist for church type genre, if all he has is a semi-weighted keyboard (not fully weighted)? Also, I have watched all your other videos, and you really like the maudio keystation es 49, you have said it’s your favorite, but in a comparison video you said the novation launchkey has the best Keybed... so can you become a decent/competent pianist(for church genre music) with synth keys? And is there any controller or keyboard south of $300 that has a better keybed then the novation launchkey or m audio keystation? Thanks a lot!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
@@miltonsaucedo2223 I grew up learning how to play in church using only semi-weighted keyboards! My first keyboard was a Casio(battery operated version no velocity sensitivity at all!) and then I got a Yamaha SY88(semi-weighted board) and then a Roland XP30 then a Korg N264 so on and so forth but all of these were semi-weighted boards...I actually didn't play my first weighted keyboard(RD-500) until I was about 16-17 years old(been playing since I was 9 or 10) So while playing on weighted keyboards can help with your "Feel" of playing piano...it's not necessary...but to answer your other question...I love the Native Instruments A61...but there are still some in this price range that I haven't tried yet...but one Im interested in getting and trying out soon is the Roland A49...it's $200 and I've heard great things about it...but I'll hopefully try it out soon!
@miltonsaucedo2223
@miltonsaucedo2223 4 жыл бұрын
John Mike thank you very much,that is really insightful! That helps a lot! I’ll check out the native keyboard.
@kensteckelberg7013
@kensteckelberg7013 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. Is this the Grand Hammer version or the other one. I know there are 2 models. One is around $499 and the Grand Hammer is over $800. I’m curious as to how the Grand Hammer version feels and plays. My Arturia 88 with the Fatar keybed feels amazing but the keys are a little noisy. Can you review the Grand version of this board? Thanks again!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Ken Steckelberg I will try to get my hands on one soon
@Williamk492
@Williamk492 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to mention that the info about the two ports having to be SL Studio port 2 made it super easy for my to set up my device. I send you a big thank you from cold and rainy Belgium 🇧🇪👍🏻
@miljantoto
@miljantoto 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said JM, I have SL88 STUDIO for 3 Years and it is an absolutely amazing MIDI controller. My favorite keybed Fatar TP100 LR. I am glad that you fall in love with this incredible piece of gear, especially if we know how many instruments and Midi controllers have gone through your studio and your video reviews. In Every VST the instrument you'll have a magic feeling, believe me.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Miljan. I've been searching about weighted midi keyboards and I've seend that some people complained about the keys getting really noisy. Did you have any trouble after some time?
@miljantoto
@miljantoto 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lalairu No, From the first day all keys are quiet.....and much better than 1st gen Arturia Keylab 88 , although both models share the same Fatar keys TP100 LR. It's just that Studiologic took everything a lot more serious than Arturia's 1st gen Keylab 88, which is noisy, Velocity Curve is worse than that of SL88 STUDIO, even the color is removed by itself From Arturia!!!!!!..... and much more expensive than SL88. Native Instrument KK S88 has the same keys....but NI is 3 times more expensive, because Soft Integration and Displays....SL88 Studio is great....
@darthvalkyr
@darthvalkyr 4 жыл бұрын
Got one of these about 9 months ago. Great bit of kit. Love the customisation options in the software, great feeling keys and a whole world of possibilities through MIDI and DAWs. Got it to start learning piano properly and would thoroughly recommend it to anybody who doesn't need a standalone instrument.
@ciararespect4296
@ciararespect4296 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get speakers for it ?
@darthvalkyr
@darthvalkyr 3 жыл бұрын
@@ciararespect4296 MIDI keyboards need a PC/ laptop and a DAW software program to produce sound. But the variety of instrument plugins for DAWs means they are extremely versatile and infinitely customisable.
@nwb3
@nwb3 2 жыл бұрын
@@darthvalkyr Would you say it feels similar to an actual piano?
@darthvalkyr
@darthvalkyr 2 жыл бұрын
@@nwb3 I can’t really advise on that. I haven’t properly played an actual piano in over 20 years and my skills were very limited back then. It does feel pretty nice. If you want the closest real piano feel that they do then maybe the SL88 Grand by Studiologic as it has wooden keys and proper weighted hammer action. More on the pricey side though.
@nwb3
@nwb3 2 жыл бұрын
@@darthvalkyr Ok thanks
@NlineMusick
@NlineMusick 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this board since February, 2018 and it is HANDS DOWN THEE ABSOLUTE BEST 88 key controller in its price range‼️ Around the time I purchased it, no one had it available to physically play but I seen Anomalie playing one in his videos (if you know who he is, then you know it’s a quality controller). The board has still held up and in fact, I went on to purchase the 73 key version. Same keybed and it fits in a 61 key keyboard case, yes a 73 key board fits in a 61 key keyboard case. 😱 All my friends who play it, love the keybed too‼️
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Anomalie is one of my favorite board players hands down!
@JCox964
@JCox964 4 жыл бұрын
NlineMusick I own the SL73 & love it & also own a Roland A88 as well!!!!💯
@savizzlekeys
@savizzlekeys Жыл бұрын
Demonstration of the joystick has most likely convinced me to get this. Grew up using joystick style synths and acoustic pianos. I’ll probably get the sl73 for gigs.
@ranjuk
@ranjuk 3 жыл бұрын
I have the SL88 and had to get this repaired due to noisy keys as it was under warranty. However the problem has re occurred after a couple months of use, however I’m out of warranty! Might try the Grand as reviews are pretty decent!
@cubilasdotcom
@cubilasdotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video John! I also had the MAudio hammer 88 but found it too heavy for what I was doing. After lugging around my Roland fp-2 piano for years to use as a MIDI controller, I was glad to find the SL73 open-box for $350. There’s nothing like real hammer action on a great keybed. Keep it real my friend !
@brians1025
@brians1025 4 жыл бұрын
Own it... Love it! I've been using it in my studio (only, not for any gigs) for about 2 years. It really is pound for pound one of the best midi pianos out there. Now, I'm gonna get the Studiologic Numa Compact 2 for the internal sounds and for gigs. Thanks for the video! 😎🎶
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Yup that’s on my list too!
@tommidd8042
@tommidd8042 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I need a how to SL88 for dummies. LOL. I have the keyboard, still trying to figure it out. At least I'm having fun playing Unify from Plugin Guru.
@keysbymo944
@keysbymo944 4 жыл бұрын
When i first got mine, my knuckles were sore for a month. Now my hands are stronger than ever and cant see myself ever going back.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 3 жыл бұрын
Any issues with the keys after 9 months?
@keysbymo944
@keysbymo944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lalairu funny you asked . The middle C is intermittently cutting out. I have warranty service scheduled for tomorrow. This is after me playing it nearly everyday since Oct 2019
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysbymo944 are you happy still? I was also considering a Korg b2
@keysbymo944
@keysbymo944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lalairu the B2 is an actual digital piano . The SL88 is a MIDI controller. No built in sounds or speakers . Apples and Oranges there.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 3 жыл бұрын
@@keysbymo944 yeah but I believe you can use the Korg as a controller too. 😶
@boogiefunkproductions2368
@boogiefunkproductions2368 4 жыл бұрын
I got custom cherrywood cheeks made for mine, it looks really nice.
@chunkhutchinson
@chunkhutchinson 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the cheeks made please? Id love some for mine
@aeiplanner
@aeiplanner 4 жыл бұрын
Ever since I had and (recklessly/foolishly) sold my SL990 I realized that shopping for a keboard is actually shopping for a keybed. You can spend $5K on a NORD Stage 2 or you can buy a Studiologic and take it apart. The only problems with Studiologic is that you will have issues with velocity inconsistencies, so you need to do your own programming.
@dearkokum
@dearkokum 2 ай бұрын
How do i actually load sounds into the SL Editor?! It's so basic but i just cant figure it out. Plays like a regular MiDI controller out the DAW but loading up these patches?! Cant figure out how to do jt
@thkeyboardsounds
@thkeyboardsounds 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using the SL73 since end of 2020 as second board for my Yamaha Modx 6. I like this combination.
@michaelcallahan2149
@michaelcallahan2149 4 жыл бұрын
I have the grand, it has never left my home. I must say, support is very poor if you have a problem. Unless you live in the LA area you will be forced to ship it to them(at your cost) to get any warranty work done. I am 5 weeks out just for new compass to get a new control board since mine decided to crap out randomly. I decided it was easier to buy the new control board rather than spend money and time on a hard case and shipping.
@Hamfantasy56
@Hamfantasy56 4 жыл бұрын
I own its predecessor: the Acuna 88 which is a beautiful master kb, with a perfect piano action..they spend a lot of time in the research of a perfect piano key mechanism simulation, and made a few patents from their projects
@shedroids
@shedroids 4 жыл бұрын
John Mike you play so beautifully!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@howinteresting2
@howinteresting2 2 жыл бұрын
I got a SL73 with shorter keyboard but the same construction. The keys and programmable aspects are great for DAW use, but the three sloppy miniature joysticks are useless and too fiddly - there's no friction or feel. They need to be stiffer and longer - or include a couple of big edge control knobs or instead all controls as long sliders, but as least 2. I may have to modify....
@JoseRojas-kv7kv
@JoseRojas-kv7kv 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to review this keyboard, it has been very useful for me you have earned a like and a new subscriber to your channel.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏽
@Crobisaur
@Crobisaur 3 жыл бұрын
picked one of these up to finally have something to practice piano technique as well as have full size hammer action keys. looking forward to enjoying this thing!
@CalvinLimuel
@CalvinLimuel 2 жыл бұрын
2:20 StudioLogic actually has SL 88 Grand which is their top-of-the-line keybed (TP/40WOOD Graded Hammer Action with Ivory Touch)
@patchua485
@patchua485 3 жыл бұрын
Because of your great detailed review, I chose the SL88 Studio purchase for our church back in 2020 and always had it since! Go John Mike! #omnispheresoundgroup
@boogiefunkproductions2368
@boogiefunkproductions2368 4 жыл бұрын
I got the SL88 Grand 2 years ago for $450, it was a steal. They wanted 350 additional for shipping so I just drove up to LA to pick it up. By far the best controller i've ever used. Wooden weighted keys, beautiful key-bed!
@PeterPrism
@PeterPrism 4 жыл бұрын
The price now is double. Why?
@jakeandrew333
@jakeandrew333 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterPrism its not! its $499 right now
@PeterPrism
@PeterPrism Жыл бұрын
@@jakeandrew333 after 2 years price is drop! 😀 I have a studiologic numa compact 2x now 😂😂😂
@jakeandrew333
@jakeandrew333 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterPrism hahah gotcha! I’m debating on which one right now, but I’m the not the best at all with like software and stuff so I’m leaning towards the hammer just cause it’ll be easy to set up! But I do like the sl studio better I think so idk
@hectortorres9126
@hectortorres9126 4 жыл бұрын
John, I really liked the keyboard and wanted to love it. The keybed was a tad bit on the hard side. Unfortunately, within a month, B5 started sticking. I returned it and swapped it for something else. I wish the Fatar 100 was more reliable.
@bitmaster2000
@bitmaster2000 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review man. It's a fantastic keyboard.
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 4 жыл бұрын
This is the same keybed as the Nord Stage 2 EX76 HP and the Stage 3 76HP, right? From what I read, TP100LR is the keybed on all. Thanks, John Mike!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
I believe so
@JCox964
@JCox964 4 жыл бұрын
Wowww... Great info
@estevancarlos
@estevancarlos 4 жыл бұрын
Just picked this up. Thanks for this video. This keyboard feels amazing.
@k88keyzk
@k88keyzk 3 жыл бұрын
Do prefer this one of the Grand Version. I heard hey have different key beds which could make a difference with “players”
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet
@revp01
@revp01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike The Studio version of this board uses Fatar TP100 keybed which is the same as the Arturia Lab88, Kurz Forte SE. The studio logic controller versions is seated better than the others. BUT, the Grand version of this board has the BEST weighted keybed. It uses the Fatar TP-40 Wood, which is used on Nord Stage and Kurz Forte. Studiologic seated there's a bit better. It's not as heavy as Yamaha's weighted keybeds but not as light as the Nords. Feels more solid than Roland RD2000 & Korg SV2. hope this helps.
@brandoncrenshaw
@brandoncrenshaw 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta try the studio grand. That feel is ridiculous! But the old school Roland a-88 is my favorite keybed ever. Hopefully you get to review the A88 mk2.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Forte' it’s on the list!
@AGAU1022
@AGAU1022 4 жыл бұрын
Roland actions are amazing even at entry level. Unfortunately the A-88 is too long for my 3-tier stand. 88 keys AND the controls are to the left of the keys! I don't understand why they won't put the controls in the middle above the keys except for tradition. If they aren't going to do that I wish they would at least put the same action in a 73 or 64 key midi board. Until then the Studiologic 88 Grand looks like the better option for me when I have the money. More keys than I need but at least the controls are above the keys so I can fit it in my set up. Also I believe the Grand has wooden keys whereas the A-88 keys at plastic? Not that that matters to me if it's weighted and graded.
@janklas7079
@janklas7079 Жыл бұрын
Since I bought this keyboard, should arrive today, i wonder. I hear a lot of people talk about it is heavy playing. Also the Grand has a different keybed whis is graded. The heaviest key on the grand is about the same as every key on the studio. This leads me to believe it should be possible to grade it yourself DIY. It would only involve removing weigt from keys. Or am I thinking too simple? In the dr mix tour they show the grand has a notch somewhere which makes the 'grand' effect. It might be possible to DIY this yourself on the Studio?
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 4 жыл бұрын
I was considering to buy this one, so I could learn to play the piano and more. I can't afford two keyboards so I need something that has "both worlds". I was considering a Yamaha P45 until I began to be interested in synths xD now I need everything, and this one seems perfect. thank you for your reviews John, I bought the Korg microkey 37 months ago because your reviews helped me, it helped me to begin learning how to use DAWs and such. How does the Rhodes emulation sound? It's my fav electric piano.
@cjmelton2532
@cjmelton2532 4 жыл бұрын
2 years in and the key bed still feels great to play. But I am interested to see how the key bed stacks up against the Arturia and the studiologic Grand!
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen people complaining because the keys got noisy. You didn't have any issues at all?
@cjmelton2532
@cjmelton2532 4 жыл бұрын
Lalairu yes it makes noise but at that price point I expected it to after while,playability wise it still feels good.
@Lalairu
@Lalairu 4 жыл бұрын
@@cjmelton2532 is it very annoying? Thanks for the fast response by the way
@cjmelton2532
@cjmelton2532 4 жыл бұрын
Lalairu no problem. For me personally no. Everyone’s preference and tolerance for things will be different making it very subjective.
@mrtalky460
@mrtalky460 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjmelton2532 hey cj, could you please explain what you mean with the noice. Does it sound like a cheap keyboard, a mouse eating cheese or maybe like an old bicycle? wfr
@Lumios_UA
@Lumios_UA 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how did it last over the months passed. There's a '6-month later" video for M-Audio Hammer 88. Would you mind making one for SL88 ?
@DavidGossettMusic
@DavidGossettMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would like to know what your long term review of the SL88 Studio is as well. I've been in the market for a hammer action midi keyboard and I almost bought the SL73, but I keep finding stories of these breaking or giving up 3-4 months in. I can't tell how much of it is legit issues, or how much of it is subjective opinions about the keybed.
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidGossettMusic the issues are well known, not so well known is how to fix it at home without having to use the warranty every 5 months^^ "Fatar TP/100LR on SL88 Studio- the sensors, disassembling, modification" is the video you want if you buy the SL88. Knowing this, I would still buy it. And a screwdriver.
@pikachu-hs5zz
@pikachu-hs5zz 4 жыл бұрын
@@couchcamperTM Lmaooo. How would you compare this to the Grand version though?
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM 4 жыл бұрын
@@pikachu-hs5zz The Grand version has the more expensive keybed afaik, but it all comes down to how it has been built into the Grand. If they tried to save a Dollar on that one, too, it will have the same issues after a few months. I can't afford the Grand so I didn't check it out.
@pikachu-hs5zz
@pikachu-hs5zz 4 жыл бұрын
@@couchcamperTM you're so right. plus more expensive doesn't mean better imo. i tried the grand out in the music store and it feels even heavier than my proper piano, which i didn't like but i guess that depends on each individual player. so i'll probably get the studio. thanks!
@jbridguk
@jbridguk 4 жыл бұрын
Hi JM. Highly recommended the magnetic computer plate to go with it and the official SL softcase. Thanks for endorsing this great keyboard. One thing I wonder about having this for a while is occasionally I get notes that kind of mute instead of ringing out. Not sure if it's my sustain pedal technique or its key bounce. After you have played for a good while would be pleased to know your thoughts. Best regards
@idek8381
@idek8381 4 жыл бұрын
I have this problem as well, I think it’s key bounce and creates a double input which can be extremely frustrating when editing midi. I’ve been trying to find a fix but have found nothing on it.
@jbridguk
@jbridguk 4 жыл бұрын
@@idek8381 Yes, I have found this esp. with Keyscape. I move the note and find the double input underneath and delete. But also with Logic/Keyscape I find that sometimes if the recorded note is too short then on playback it doesn't ring out even though the sustain pedal is down. I have to make the note a little longer. Really frustrating, esp as sometimes normal playback is ok and it's not until you bounce the track that the problem can be heard.
@VadimShinnik
@VadimShinnik 3 жыл бұрын
Friends! Racking my head between SL Studio and Grand. SL Studio is pleasant to the touch, but over time it will become easier, I actually saw this TP100 with my own eyes and keyboard masters and there is a lot of fluidity like Vaseline, so it feels tougher than SL GRAND, but lighter in weight. I played on the old MIDI Studiologic SL-990 Pro there TP40 GH - I really liked it, it still works without any problems. The fact is that the SL Grand now costs about $ 800. But there are a lot of bad reviews about the keyboard itself ... but at the same time, it is positioned as a keyboard of the premium segment. OK. We have a purely $ 1000 Doepfer PK88 GH without Case keyboard and are praised as one of the most reliable and indestructible keyboards around. A reasonable question: Maybe in SL Grand (Fatar TP40 Wood) the quality of parts is worse than on Doepfer (TP40 GH) since there is such a difference in price + considering the reviews? This is my dilemma.
@MrWorldclassmusician
@MrWorldclassmusician 3 жыл бұрын
Bought one because of your reviews. Hope the feel is what you say it is bro! Thanks
@MarcoPolux
@MarcoPolux 4 жыл бұрын
I love it also, but!!! Adter about 10months.... suddenly, the LSD just died and got totaly blank, so I have to rely on the software to change its settings... I've read about it but thought, as I wouldn't be moving it a lot, it may not happen to me. Well, 10 months later, it happened. But, for the price, is a very good midi controller with the sense of a real piano. Please update this when it happens to you, is something StudioLogic has to address.
@SeanGeeE
@SeanGeeE 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to access full function and settings with computer when the lcd dies?
@ArlisaSThomas
@ArlisaSThomas 4 жыл бұрын
I had this board for about 3 or for years and it is definitely a great board. When I first bought it the software was new and software was buggy and didn’t work like it should so I gave up on it because I didn’t need it for my purposes. I only got rid of it because I wanted to board wit internal sounds as a backup when my computer would act up.
@lemmystop
@lemmystop 4 жыл бұрын
I got it and put it back in the box after 10 minutes. I exchanged it for the SL88 GRAND. I love the way it feels.
@VadimShinnik
@VadimShinnik 3 жыл бұрын
Hello) Why? Such a big difference? Can you describe please!
@ckao227
@ckao227 4 жыл бұрын
Bro can you please do a detail tutorial how to set it up with FL studio? Thank you in advance!
@PaulsonJeanty
@PaulsonJeanty 4 жыл бұрын
*I glad you talked about this one.*
@music-sq5nb
@music-sq5nb 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John I'm trying to pick between the Studiologic SL88 Studio S-Series and the Arturia KeyLab 88 MkII . What do you recommend? I'm interested to learn classical,jazz music , which is closer to the real piano . I'm not interested controls or software which feels more real
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the SAME keybed in both of those...that’s why I went with the SL88 because it was the same feel as the Arturia for half the price
@music-sq5nb
@music-sq5nb 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you@@Johnmike
@Williamk492
@Williamk492 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review and explanation. Subscribed! 👍🏻
@WarrenPostma
@WarrenPostma 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to see you Spice this baby up. I think it would be cool if you could do a wrap on the back of the board, so it had some cool "JM" theme on it. If this were mine I think I'd go for a military green look, paint it in a matte finish, and then take my beloved BeatStep Pro and also military green it out.
@michelleparsons9881
@michelleparsons9881 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm looking for a nice MIDI keyboard. Can you load D50 and DX7 sounds into it from the VST program?
@tracymb9505
@tracymb9505 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I Bought but yes I got all mixed up on the sewt up... But Its Soooo...good to see you with it ...Wow! Thanks for the insight...
@aris9125
@aris9125 8 ай бұрын
Hi @Johnmike...i bought the Amazing SL88 Studio because of this video and so far so good, apart from...and i hope you can help me a bit here...i cannot seem to send all 127 velocity to Kontakt for any of my Libraries...How come? the harder i press or stroke a key, i can't seem to reach 127...for most i got it to 124...Thanks...Sorry for my Bad English!
@samsonbabatola1484
@samsonbabatola1484 2 жыл бұрын
Got one today , connected the Sl editor but still wouldn’t produce any sound Can anyone tell me how to setup the audio ?
@federicosantiagojr.4085
@federicosantiagojr.4085 8 ай бұрын
Hi! Peace be with you. Can I control my Yamaha Motif ES Rack with this board? Change and pick sounds and change parameters with the SL software. Thanks in advance for your reply.
@amaurythewarrior
@amaurythewarrior 2 жыл бұрын
i was pretty much set on the hammer 88, now i'm confused.
@aris9125
@aris9125 6 ай бұрын
@Johnmike can you help me...i connect my SL88 Studio with a 3 meter long USB cable using Kontakt and it keeps disconnecting after a while (not power off but no sound) had to switch off and back on to continue making sounds...i'm on Win11 and USB power savings are off on all regards. Still can't find what's wrong with my SL88. It happens on AC powered or USB powered as well.
@JCox964
@JCox964 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John, Thx much for Demi this product. Been waiting for you to for quite some time. I bought the SL73 mid 2019 & love it. I store this n my 61 bag. I also have my Roland A88 as well n my home studio. The SL-73 , I use it for gig purposes.. Again , thx so much!!! 👍🏽
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
A88 is on the list to check out soon as well...
@elijahhenry7033
@elijahhenry7033 3 жыл бұрын
Is stick 3 supposed to be so light? There's no tension to it.
@AndersonBryan
@AndersonBryan 4 жыл бұрын
Need video on how the SL88 patches and layers map to MainStage patches, Ableton Live, etc as sound sources. MainStage pretty much allows the same setup of the layers/velo curve in each patch. Ableton - can patch change on SL88 trigger enable/disable devices in Ableton so layer mapping be routed to the appropriate device or can it send patch change on the layer. But I am intrigued 😀
@jbridguk
@jbridguk 4 жыл бұрын
I used to use mainstage all the time with this keyboard...tbh I don't bother with the controls in the software...just control this stuff (splits etc) in mainstage it's easier
@AndersonBryan
@AndersonBryan 4 жыл бұрын
John Bridgwater yes that’s what I’d expect with MainStage. Ableton is trickier with mapping PGM CH to instrument rack selector for example. I think the SL88 patch features would work best with external hardware and maybe Kontakt, Analog Labs, UVI, OmniSphere stand-alone use cases.
@giacomocagnetti2529
@giacomocagnetti2529 Жыл бұрын
​@@jbridgukis it possible to assign 2 or 3 layers through mainstage (let's say a piano, an EP and a Pad) and control the volumes of each layer through the Studiologic panel? Or the layering should be done inside the studiologic to do that? And what if I would like to use an espression pedal to control only the Pad volume? It could be done in mainstage?
@Glenn11C
@Glenn11C 8 ай бұрын
Where/How are you getting your sounds?
@furmc
@furmc 7 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Studiologic Numa Compact 2X?
@julianvandenbrink2582
@julianvandenbrink2582 3 жыл бұрын
3:15 naaaah that’s not just you, I love the joysticks
@galastar257
@galastar257 4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend anyone to try this before you buy. I had the 73 key version of this, and found the key action very, very heavy. I also struggled with the software setting it up, but once you get your head around it works fine but also make sure you switch it on in the right order. I ended up selling it because of the action. In contrast the other keyboards I have had before, during or since having the SL73 (SL-880 Pro, Korg SV1, Yamaha CP4 & Yamaha CP73) have all been far superior in key feel.
@extraawesomestudios
@extraawesomestudios 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on this - the action is extremely heavy. My problem with it is - when trying to play softly, the key will "bounce" off the switch. There are software fixes to the "short-long" sound this makes; however, you still feel the key bounce and it throws me off. I can't get used to it.
@estebangpuga
@estebangpuga 3 жыл бұрын
John Mike hi! I have a Yamaha P45 USB MIDI which I use as a MIDI controller with a Macbook Pro 2019, Ableton Live and NI Noire... I'm not happy with the overall response of it (maybe Noire is the problem?) also I feel a little bit of latency. I want to travel and tour with the piano so do you think it will be better the SL 88?
@ulzman3581
@ulzman3581 4 жыл бұрын
I wished you would have explained how to combine a VST Software Instrument with the SL Editor. How to reate a Program, a Group etc..
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
I will be doing that soon
@craigsimmons6328
@craigsimmons6328 4 жыл бұрын
I have this keyboard and I love it.well made and a real bargain
@paddlehard5722
@paddlehard5722 4 жыл бұрын
I’m about to buy a keyboard for the same purpose. I have the tight race here between M-audio Hammer and this beast. The price is almost the same. While I don’t actually need all that fancy software adjustments, I would really appreciate more playable/controllable/responsive keybed (regardless of aftertouch). Would you share a word about the difference? I can’t try myself, I have to order and remain pleased with what I get. Thanks.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
I actually did a full comparison of the two here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbcpYGlq9lqh6M
@paddlehard5722
@paddlehard5722 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike Thanks!
@mikelowhorn8146
@mikelowhorn8146 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great review! It's been instrumental (pun intended) in helping me to make a decision. I do have a couple of questions: First, what is the benefit of a MIDI IN jack on a controller? Secondly, if the SL Editor software supplants the hardware control knob on the device, is the control knob only for live performance? Thanks again!
@ronniearch2001
@ronniearch2001 3 жыл бұрын
I got the sl 88 and I'm find it difficult to use the editor feature and use programming features on the controller. My question is ... how to connect the vst plugins to the controller. I was able to find out how to connect the controller to the editor ( thanks for that fyi bit). I'm new to all this digital instruments and can use some tips on programming my controller so I don't have to keep going the route I'm going..... thanks!
@robynmiles31
@robynmiles31 4 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. I have the Hammer 88 and was curious. Can’t wait to try this one.
@vangelisk.8846
@vangelisk.8846 4 жыл бұрын
I was using a Nektar Impact LX88 (replaced by Nektar LX88+, ~EU 245) that I wanted to use to control a legacy Alesis QSR module loaded with the Expanded sound sets (very nice sounds), and the main problem that I had was (I did not mind synth action keys for my needs) was that it could only send out on 3 zones via MIDI out, (same as LX88+), but some of the sounds on my QSR needed 4 channels, so...problem. The Studiologic SL88 Studio (~EU 398) has 4 zones and twin MIDI outs, so it will do as a controller, the heavier 'upscale' model with the hammer action goes for EU799, so...depends on the application, as I like to say...
@canonistul74
@canonistul74 4 жыл бұрын
Nektar LX88+ reliability?? sl88 its with common problem on fathar key,I think you know...
@yvonnevierra2715
@yvonnevierra2715 3 жыл бұрын
I can't find any good Doc or video on how the SL editor gets its sounds. I have ableton live but not grasping how to get that referenced by the editor. Any recommendations? Btw...your vids are very good.
@angelgimenez2452
@angelgimenez2452 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for such a well explained review!!
@GNeuman
@GNeuman 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John.....Got my SL73 yesterday....Like the feel of my piano samples and going from a 61 note to 73 keyboard is great. But a bit disappointed that the stick will only allow one note of pitch bend up or down with my external h/w synths. I've calibrated the sticks as per the manual but can't find any way of increasing the pitch bend range. Have written to their tech support-. Am I missing something? Plus, I think the menu system absolutely sucks with those buttons, totally confusing....Greets...Mike
@theblackjackchannel1082
@theblackjackchannel1082 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing review man. If It happens that you have a Roland fp10 at hand please make a review of it because it costs as much as this keyboard and i heard It has an amazing keybed and also built in sounds so you can use it both as a piano and as a midi controller
@AGAU1022
@AGAU1022 4 жыл бұрын
The action on the FP-10 is amazing. It actually felt better than their more expensive models to me, but maybe that is because it was brand new and the others are older. However, bear in mind that it doesn't have pitch bend or mod wheels (I believe) and only has one pedal input (and I'm not sure whether this pedal input can do continuous MIDI expression or just sustain). If you don't need those things, great. If you do need the wheels but not the peds, you could combine the FP-10 with a smaller midi controller that has mod wheels, like an M32, or something even smaller and cheaper. However, built-in sounds might not be worth it if you are always plugged into your computer anyway. The Roland A-88 has the same action (at least on paper) and is a dedicated midi controller, and the Grand version of the Studiologic is weighted and graded too.
@theblackjackchannel1082
@theblackjackchannel1082 4 жыл бұрын
@@AGAU1022 thanks a lot. Unfortunately in my country the Roland a88 and the studiologic sl88 grand cost double the price of the fp10 so they are not quite comparable and completely out of budget. The sl88 studio costs the same as the fp10( around 400 euros) and, if i've understood well, it has a sligtly worse action and does not include integrated sounds or speaker but has the pitch and mod wheel and more pedal options. Am I right?
@AGAU1022
@AGAU1022 4 жыл бұрын
@@theblackjackchannel1082 Yes correct, tho it depends if you like a more realistic graded piano action or don't mind an ungraded action. Some people prefer ungraded actions like on the Studio. I prefer graded.
@gabrielpiano7
@gabrielpiano7 4 жыл бұрын
Yo lo compre hace 9 meses y me da problemas a los 8 minutos de prenderlo empiezan a salir rallitas en la pantalla asta tener muchas rallas internas a que se debe eso?
@sarbaazchabahar
@sarbaazchabahar 4 жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds good. Lets see after 2 years.🎹✌👍
@dazquez
@dazquez Жыл бұрын
How would you plug an audio interface into this. Or is it better to keep usb to computer
@daniellopez1507
@daniellopez1507 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John Mike GBU… greetings from Chiapas México… I use only Mainstage.. at this moments there is a Keyboard like this one with this quality and characteristics minimalist with this keys… but without the screen in the middle of the board? I can’t find one.. I prefer this to the Hammer M-Audio.. but I really like some thing like this one..
@petrus7977
@petrus7977 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review man! 1 question: can you zone-split the keyboard so to assign different midi channels into each zone?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын
Yup!!!
@lemmystop
@lemmystop 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do an updated review? If not...can you just tell me your thoughts? Which keyboards use the same keybed?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Soon
@DrNo99
@DrNo99 11 ай бұрын
Gave up my Komplete Kontrol MK2 for the for this one mainly for then keybed and joystick.
@anderssundqvist
@anderssundqvist 3 жыл бұрын
Great review but how do you get it to work with Logic Pro? When setting up a new control surface It doesnt find it
@GNeuman
@GNeuman 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent review. Thank you.
@ChaseMusic87
@ChaseMusic87 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John. Does it have graded hammer keys?
@damianrjames
@damianrjames 3 жыл бұрын
useful thanks, nice chops too! is the board sluggish and heavy as some have said?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks…depends on what your preference is…it’s definitely a heavy board
@damianrjames
@damianrjames 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike thanks! i meant for songwriting piano, played as on real ivories... jazz chords etc...
@electricityofmind6300
@electricityofmind6300 4 жыл бұрын
how does it compare to komplete kontrol s88 mk2 when it comes to KEY FEEL? What are the best KEY FEEL midi keyboards/best-worst?
@joegrant413
@joegrant413 4 жыл бұрын
John Mike, I'm loving your channel! Would this keyboard be overkill for an iPad setup? Primarily I see myself using the iPad as a sound module, like you've done with the Korg module pro. Thanks
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And Naa I wouldn’t think so...I would use it live with my iPad in a heartbeat
@joegrant413
@joegrant413 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Johnmike Thanks for the reply! Cool. I'm not a piano player, but I do appreciate the feel of a good set of keys. And I do NOT use a DAW, use a Tascam Portastudio in my setup. Every now and think of getting something like an old Yamaha MOTIF. But I have a bunch a great bunch of iPad apps. I've thought about a KeyStep, but really prefer full-size keys and a good feel, and don't need the modular sequencing stuff. Anyway, it sounds like you're saying a StudioLogic would be worth it -- even just for iPad. If you have other tips or gear I should look at, let me know. See you!
@ChrisCadenhead
@ChrisCadenhead 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one! Love this board! My only gripe is with the weird midi out when using external keyboards. Sumn funky goin on
@kenrickhadley4499
@kenrickhadley4499 Жыл бұрын
Very,Very,Very helpful.
@gianfrixmg
@gianfrixmg 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, first the Keylab 88 Essential, then the SL88! You're reading my mind about the controllers I'm targeting lol I'd love to see a long term review of both! Fun fact: Studiologic is actually a FATAR owned company! So you're basically getting the keybed from the manufacturing source.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh now it makes sense!
@richday2117
@richday2117 3 жыл бұрын
How do you like the key action?
@srinirocks118
@srinirocks118 Жыл бұрын
Does the keyboard have grander hammer haction ?
@TheKaroaker
@TheKaroaker 4 жыл бұрын
Would you go this over the Komplete s88 Mk2?
@erichughes3987
@erichughes3987 3 жыл бұрын
These are two totally different price brackets. s88 has way more features, and definitely go for it if you got the $$ and use Native Instrument stuff. If you just want a solid controller and want to save the $$, go with this.
@HurveyJones
@HurveyJones 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John I have a question that I have been trying to figure out for 2 weeks. I first appreciate your video! My question is I use Ableton live, and I can't seem to program the midi controller to change the sounds, but also, when I use Mixcraft, it automatically maps and I'm able to select different sounds and change the volume from the midi controller. Can you help with this? Thanks
@riccochettv8638
@riccochettv8638 Жыл бұрын
Do I need the software if I’m using my Daw? I use fl studio
@kebabs9106
@kebabs9106 6 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm very new to MIDi software and controlers. Is this conectable to Logic Pro, as I'm planning to get sound from my headphones/speakers that are connected to Logic Pro on my Macbook. Thanks!
@anthonym.8646
@anthonym.8646 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the awesome review! - the Arturia 88 MKII also has a Fatar Keybed and looks like they both use the TP/100LR so i guess it comes down to analog lab/daw control?
@wilkopiano
@wilkopiano Жыл бұрын
I have had one of these for a while. However there is an annoying problem that i cant seem to resolve. When you first power on the unit it doesnt load your altered default preset 1 for your custom velocity curve. You have to choose your patch after powering on which i sometimes forget to do. Do you have this problem with yours?
@zdravkozdravka4313
@zdravkozdravka4313 3 жыл бұрын
Which keyboard better for pianist? This or sl Grand??
@jbukuts
@jbukuts 4 жыл бұрын
Can you arpeggiate through the midi out to a sound module (say an monosynth) with this keyboard?
@fredarends1112
@fredarends1112 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Love my keyboard and yours to. I use macOS and upgraded to Big Sur. SL Editor crashed. Did clean install but also crashed. Is there anyone who did this and had good results? Make SL great.
@RaymloR
@RaymloR 4 жыл бұрын
Great video sir, thanks for the upload. Its either this or ye hammer 88 from m-audio. The big factor for me is integrating with ableton live suite. Which is easiest to incorporate into ableton live? Thanks again
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 4 жыл бұрын
Check this video I did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbcpYGlq9lqh6M
@RaymloR
@RaymloR 4 жыл бұрын
Yer a lovely man
@boogybass
@boogybass 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought this keyboard, but trying to use something as simple as bringing the volume down from 127 does nothing. How do I make this work? And is there any other software would you recommend that makes great piano sounds? I have some, but nothing great.
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