My New Red Sea 625 G2+ Has A Coral Pathogen and Ich

[@petecostanzo]

This kid sounds like he will be the person to cure cancer some day smart as hell... Very impressive

[@TopShelfAquatics]

Good to see an update on the Reefer! That first year of any new system is always a battle! Stay the course my friend! -Blaine

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

I still think it’s funny we’re on the same timeline! In 3 years when our tanks are stable we’ll be good to go! 😂-Remy

[@ESABOE]

Nice update Remy! My Red Sea 350 G2+ has been up for 5 months as well so I’m following this series closely. I also did TBS sand (sprinkled on top of CaribSea Ocean Direct live sand and also added some of their rubble in sump.) I’m going to send in one of those Bio- metric tests, thank you for showing why one would want to. Of course I won’t have Salem to decipher- lol. Btw, he is amazing. I’m going to add him to my “Thought Leader” list I follow for reefing.

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Salem is great! He's been an awesome addition to the team. Please let me know your results once you've received your results! -Remy

[@ESABOE]

@@ReefBuildersVideo Absolutely - ‘ll send! Than you ❤

[@jr8688]

Crazy informative! Way to go Salem!

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Salem is a Swiss Army Knife! Thanks for watching! ~Remy

[@dannymcelroy]

Thanks for the update Remy, we love seeing the progress of your tank build journey!!

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

More to come! I appreciate the comment! -Remy

[@MyFirstFishTank]

I really appreciate this video because it is all about managing issues. Eradication isn’t always possible or ideal, so learning how to manage disease is crucial!

[@trevortoy3427]

Thanks Rémy. I have had my Reefer 300 running for a few months and have had so many similar issues. It’s nice know that everyone faces similar challenges

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

I'll see you in year 3 when everything is stable...lol! Thanks for watching! ~Remy

[@michealprater]

Fish suggestion- Steve has been bringing in some killer wrasses lately. I had never wanted one, but I checked out some that were not sand sleepers, particularly fairies. I picked one up, and that fish has so much personality, and such a bright splash of color to the tank. I would highly recommend one, they are just so fun!

[@BrandonJay-i6h]

Radiant wrasse, mystery wrasse, sunburst anthias, borbonius anthias and a trio of female bimaculatus anthias; watch the dominant one go male over time. Great content man; you've done a good job!

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Thank you! I know it’s not anything crazy yet but I’ve got big dreams for this tank! -Remy

[@BIG-ES-]

Great update Remy, I know this will be a kick ass tank soon. Keep on reefin’ brother

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Gotta get some big ole stags in here to fill it out! ~Remy

[@BIG-ES-]

@@ReefBuildersVideo Oh yeah man, get some Oregon tort and cali tort in there asap

[@Ellery-USA]

Good luck Remy. Oh BTW I had a blue crab come with some glass shrimp I ordered and it grew big but then climbed out of the tank and never found where it went. No body either.

[@onigakopyan1179]

I have a question do I need a wave maker /water mover in a 20 gallon tank? Or will the pump be enough to move water

[@OneCoolFish]

I'm no expert, but I believe the crab may be a Porcelain Crab. In which case, a welcome addition.

[@georgekontos1839]

You mentioned that the Red Sea ATO timed out and stopped working. I have the same unit and the app sometimes reports that the RODI reservoir is empty, even though it may have over 5 gallons in it, and the pump is then disabled. Not sure why this is happening.

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

I am going to contact Red Sea about this. It seems like an issue for a lot of people. I'll let you know what I find out! ~Remy

[@georgekontos1839]

@@ReefBuildersVideo While troubleshooting this I noticed that if I flip the ATO pump upside down (underwater), air bubbles come out of it. I don't know how air gets trapped inside since the pump is completely submerged underwater, but I'm thinking this might be why the pump stops working and the app thinks the reservoir is dry.

[@georgekontos1839]

I exchanged several messages with Red Sea Tech Support. Several suggested solutions were tried, but in the end the issue was resolved by the following. For systems where the red ATO tubing is quite long (mine is 6.6 ft), this allows the water to backflow into the pump and cause the pump to believe there is no water in the reservoir when the water level gets too low. The solution is to make sure that no part of the tubing going from the reservoir to the sump hangs below the siphon breaker. It's been several weeks since I made this simple adjustment and the issue has not recurred. Another useful thing to do is to manually measure the flow rate, rather than letting the app guess. I measured mine as 47 oz/min. I input this value into the ReefBeat app. Now the estimated remaining reservoir volume is more precise.

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

@@georgekontos1839 Thank you for this!! ~Remy

[@timjohnson3913]

For fish recs: Not a rare one these days, but a Copperband Butterfly looks amazing, great price, and takes care of Aiptasia. Tough to beat. If you don’t have an acanthurus tang yet, look into a Maculiceps Tang; they don’t seem to get anywhere near full size in an aquarium, they are super peaceful unlike almost all other acanthurus, and I think they look stunning but YMMV.

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Copperband is definitely on the list! Will look into that tang - pretty for sure! ~Remy

[@thomasthecat951]

Remy you need to do a video on how you got Ich under control in your tank.

[@ericgasparro2545]

Ich is just a normal part of reef systems imo. Once the fish are stress free and eating they usually overcome it easily enough. At least it’s not velvet!

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

My thoughts exactly! Definitely building an easy QT for future fish additions. Sounds funny but those clowns are my babies! Would hate to lose them. ~Remy

[@UnfilteredJustice]

Somebody hasn't been QT'ing... Tsk, Tsk. Having a free swimming pathogen, that doesn't need a host to live, really stinks. My condolences. Good luck on the Ick as well.

[@shirtdirt1874]

Red Sea ReefATO ALWAYS have false empty reservoir errors. I check the app daily before bed to make sure if any false errors needs to be cleared. Every 2 weeks or so it'll show up. These things works great when working but these false readings are a huge headache.

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Thank you for sharing. I had a sneaking suspicion. -Remy

[@revZ098]

How do you deal with stony coral tissue disease? I sent off a dna test and it came back with 3 different strains of coral tissue loss disease and it bassicaly wiped out all my coral within a span of 2 years. I shut down the tank now but would like to know how to prevent these types of pathogens entering the home aquarium and if you do get it, how to deal with it?

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

This is definitely a Salem question. From my perspective, I would imagine some are way more easy to deal with than others. Like he said, aquacultured coral are a bit more robust from an immune system standpoint. I do believe that in most cases it's a "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality because there are so many variables. ~Remy

[@DoYouEvenFishTank]

Don't buy wild corals or 1st and 2nd generate frags. Stick to companies that have a "No Pests" style of aquaculture rather than the ones that keep telling you "you always going to have pests", and especially stay clear of the ones using cipro.

[@ReefAdventure]

Great video!

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Thanks for the visit! ~Remy

[@TheHightide55]

Thanks for the Video . Quick question for you or anyone in the comments . I have the red sea 625 for almost 2 years now. Do you have to keep adjusting the valve so the water doesn’t go down the overflow drain ? If not do you have a tip on setting this , seems when ever I change the flow it always has to be adjusted? Thank you all

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

This valve needs to be cleaned every so often. I have not cleaned mine yet but will be taking apart soon for maintenance. Here's a link from Red Sea - g1.redseafish.com/how-to-clean-and-adjust-the-reefer-downflow-valve/ - ~Remy

[@TheHightide55]

@@ReefBuildersVideothank you I’m looking into this. Yes was a good idea there was 4 snails stuck in there

[@DoYouEvenFishTank]

The only way to fix it is to remove the Red Sea valve and replace it with a proper gate valve. Why Red Sae persists with a diaphragm valve that adjust as air pressure changes is beyond me.....

[@artrose3921]

Fish suggestions- wrasse! You need some wrasse up in there. Ornate leopard wrasse is gorgeous. Mystery wrasse is unique. Possum wrasse also unique. Flasher wrasse of some kind are always fun to watch. Also done sleep on a blue sided fairy wrasse. Once they get full grown they are beautiful and have a super fun personality.

[@artrose3921]

Also get a foxface of some kind

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

I was definitely thinking about a possum wrasse! They are kinda reclusive but I think it'll work well being a rock dweller! ~Remy

[@zacherystapleton4019]

It's a Sally ight foot crab. I have one that snuck in on macros.

[@grassyfarms4158]

For the ich hit it with uv, herbtana and either decrease or raise the salinity depending on the corals you have

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Definitely running UV - might have accidentally done a number on the ich by accident with that salinity swing while vacation. lol. ~Remy

[@grassyfarms4158]

Lower temp ,change salinity then douse for the ich it should kill it in about a week this will stop them from multiplying they don’t breed they self replicate so u need to stop that process before any treatment will work with corals in the tank it might take 2 weeks because your about to stress the whole system… and oh yea water changes because they move thro the water column and grow on the substrate and live rock till they can take a host to feed on

[@gunsupttu]

Interesting thanks for showing the test. Im curious, did the ich show up on the aqua dna test?

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

There is a spot for it in the fish pathogen section - mine read 0. ~Remy

[@dazsboxofwater]

What reefmat are you running please ? All the best going forward 🙏🏼

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

That's the big guy - the 1200. ~Remy

[@dazsboxofwater]

@@ReefBuildersVideo thank you Remy . Darren.

[@raffoharper8588]

Hi Remi. Shout out from the north of Ireland 😎😎 I’ve the same tank and I’m loving it. Have the same cyano issue and am battling ich 🙈🙈. So much in common 😂😂. I see you’ve 3 160s on the tank. Can you tell me what distance the lights are from the centre one? Love the podcast and videos. 👌🏻👍🏻 all the best

[@michaelhopkins5447]

CRAB!!! Does he have one claw larger than the other? Fiddler crab of some sort 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Both of the main claws appear to be the same size. There are some little flecks of purple though. ~Remy

[@RobBoryckiGolf]

Ouch! This is why I qt everything

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Totally possible ich had already been in the system but yes, QT is going up! ~Remy

[@jamisonjamison1]

I would remove those fish and treat them. Let the tank sit fallow for 76 days, and then add the fish back, and continue adding only quarantined fish. If you are done stocking I understand letting it ride, but every new fish you add is the potential stressor that will push everything over the edge. at the very least I would make sure to quarantine all new fish, to eliminate to possibility of velvet getting in.

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

QT in the works for sure! ~Remy

[@jamisonjamison1]

I don't envy you. Putting a system together is hard enough. I can't imagine recording it for the world to see. I appreciate you sharing your process.@@ReefBuildersVideo

[@RogueAquariums]

💯% agreed. I had to go through marine velvet & ich twice. I QT all fish before they are introduced into my display.

[@daveb2524]

Thata gonna do nothing for ich....🙄

[@RogueAquariums]

@@daveb2524 once ich is introduced into the system keeping it fallow for the recommended 76days works as it kills the complete cycle of the pathogen.

[@Lexstasy1220]

Aside from your reef rabies I wonder how much of these negatives are even truly avoided. From buying corals and CUC too airborne bacteria in our homes or brought in on our hands

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

Exactly. Like I said in the video, what did we do before we had all this extra data? We just kinda guessed in a lot of cases. I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all but it does add an extra layer of complexity fore sure. ~Remy

[@Lexstasy1220]

@@ReefBuildersVideo on breath in this new level of testing is cool but on breath out it's making the hobby seem stressful. I look to my tank to ease my mind not force me to dive into deeper sciences and entirely reeducate myself on caring for it. Next big reefing push will be reef safe hand soap and decontamination chambers.

[@AlsFishBarn]

Add a green spot puffer!

[@DoYouEvenFishTank]

Live sand equals bad......

[@ReefBuildersVideo]

What method doesn't have any cons? That's the question. I'll say I've had far less bad than good with the addition of live sand in the beginning. Hopefully the pathogens iron themselves out as the tank matures. Fingers crossed! ~Remy

[@matthewannandale1535]

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