My Opinion on the FS2024 Release

[@Pawn87]

Just wanted to commend you on your video title. No clickbait, no gimmicky title, no dramatic caps lock. Nice and simple. All the best.

[@bluebirdsim]

Thank you! I am not a fan of clickbait and will never use it. Very annoying to say the least.

[@ironmanballer4868]

The only clickbait was the thumbnail hehehe the screenshots of the 757 were extremely spicy and I look forward to flying it in the new sim!!!

[@853massey]

757 is now the biggest reason to stay on 2020.

[@zk9058]

That’s and it’s far more reliable!

[@bluefinn7032]

I was waiting for a dev to speak up about this. I fully agree with you, I hope there will be an option to download stuff. Its ridiculous that one cannot even create liveries for the default aircraft.

[@andersdrakkar]

You got it absolutely right. I don’t think I’ll move into MSFS2024 unless they make an offline mode. What if the internet goes down in a snowstorm? This happens around where I live. And that snowstorm is not necessarily where I live. But internet cuts do happen. I am staying in MSFS2020 until Asobo/Microsoft makes an offline mode. Apart from that, I want the possibility to download my planes and scenery I buy, and not have them in the cloud all the time.

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Then just stay on FS2020? I think thats how they intend it to be.

[@RuLeZ1988]

Cloud has definitely some bad sides for sure, but it has some really good sides too. Just recently the stream issues have been overworked quite good, and everything loads very fast. It's not super good yet, but it keeps my hopes up, that this will only get better over time.

[@musicalaviator]

Even if the plane is on your local disk, and all weather and scenery (beyond a base layer "ground, no detail") stays on cloud, at least we could "fly" the plane over green grassland cavok while we sort out network issues

[@underleft]

There won't be an offline mode for 2024, It negates the entire architecture.

[@andersdrakkar]

@@underleft Asobo saw the fiasco. They can jolly well (as they say in the UK) modify the architecture of the game and I am pretty sure they will gain many more customers. The cloud works when you have internet AND when their end works well of course. This goes both ways. I for one, like many others, fly heavies long distance flights. Who can assure me the 10 hour flight will go well without a crash to desktop, an internet hiccup and end my flight anyways (especially now in winter with a snowstorm) etc… we absolutely need the base world in our computers, like FS2020 has. I’m not going to throw money into a system that I can’t own in my computer because it will fail.

[@m0ther_bra1ned12]

I 100% agree with what you said about needing the option of downloading parts of the sim.

[@greenbriar07]

Thanks for bringing this up. The online streaming requirement is a no-go for me at the moment, with my slow n' spotty internet access. I'd absolutely love to play 2024 if I could download to run it offline, even if it's Gigs of data and takes a full week to complete. I'll be making cargo runs in 2020 with my little ATR until then :)

[@gorillachinchilla1668]

This is a great response. Sober, considered and free of any drama. And I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on the need for offline functionality. Thank you!

[@garyshepherd3638]

I totally agree with the need for an offline mode. Consider the fact of how many of us have spotty to downright unreliable internet service. The week one rollout in itself should show the underestimated drain on the MS servers. Simply put, give me my toy and let me play with it.

[@roblancs]

Exactly. In the UK, average speed is 60mb/s, the reviewers have said you need 100mb/s, and usage can spike to 180mb/s. My fairly modern neighbourhood gets 30 down the phone line on a good day.

[@MelodiesAI]

They did say that you will be able to download the assets in the QNA a long time ago

[@gweilo8888]

@@MelodiesAI Yep, they've already said the sim will have this. There's also a community folder you can already put anything into except marketplace purchases and first-party planes.

[@m783w]

My guess is that it follows the new way of “you’ll own nothing” mentality. What’s to stop them moving to “pay for updates” or “pay for cloud use” If they don’t give an offline mode, it’s clear they only care about enslaving us to online modes to ensure higher revenues at our expense. Not surprising…eventually all good companies screw the loyal customers who paid and brought them to this point.

[@forsaken841]

Starlink

[@BritishAvgeek]

4 days in, I still can't get in to the sim beyond the menu in the UK and that's frankly quite disgraceful now. We're all trying to still be excited, and still trying to be patient but that only goes so far I agree with offline mode - get rid of the cloud, this has proved it doesn't yet work and isn't ready. Similarly they need to give us the option to import our 2020 keybinds into 2024.

[@markcoyle5508]

I'm in Australia and haven't experienced any major issues going by a lot of comments in various forums the uk seems to be having the worst issues

[@FluffScripts]

Keybind porting isn't feasible. Jorg said that in a interview already, it's 2 different Sims running on new architecture. Additionally, the Caribbean works fine. I've had no issue and I've been able to run the sim anytime in the day with no troubles. Sucks UK has issues

[@alanwright4575]

@@markcoyle5508that’s because our internet is disgraceful.

[@FPVSteve]

Agreed

[@arronston1]

I live in UK and wasn't able to get on at all. I've had to use a VPN and log in via USA. Works great, but we shouldn't have to!

[@contrailsurfer]

Extremely excited for the 75 & 76! Tremendous effort!

[@RIdersfan232]

Wish you and the team all the best and thank you for your work so far ❤

[@SeanGrenyer]

Agreed. I think most of us have, or can afford, SSD space enough to download most if not all the required software. And if it takes a whole day to download gigabytes of the stuff then so be it, as least it'll be done.

[@GoSolarPlz]

I bought and installed a 4tb SSD just for msfs24 in advance of its release

[@InformationAlpha]

An offline mode is absolutely crucial to save the simulator. Even if it’s just for the basic architecture of the simulator like aircraft and basic scenery. The dependency on a fully cloud base is complete lunacy and this example is the perfect reason to show that we are not there yet. Sometime in the future we hope this will be successful, but not today. The idea on paper sounds perfect for everyone, the sadly reality will always come crashing down on us.

[@salahrais7558]

The biggest disappointment for us as users is the reliance on cloud technology, while other issues will be fixed with time, I am willing to carry 500 GB rather than rely on bad technology

[@ESPirits87]

For me it works better because of Cloud technology.

[@jahurz93]

@@ESPirits87 I dont mind cloud technology for non essential items like the landscape, terrain, cities, monuments but stuff like aircraft textures and a major part of the airport should remain pulled directly from the hard drive.

[@RuLeZ1988]

They have recently overworked the streaming issues and now it loads a lot faster. So I don't think the technology at its core is bad, it is most likely the capacity that has to be optimized. Atleast iam looking forward to see how this is gonna developing in the future.

[@ungeneer1506]

You’re supposed to be able to download whatever you want from the library locally but I believe that’s disabled for now because the marketplace is also disabled.

[@ryanw1433]

I wholeheartedly agree with having offline capability in some form - obviously not everything of course. Most of us will have prime time to play when the snowstorms hit and we’re on generator power with no internet. DCS at least gives 3 days to play whatever we have downloaded before a brief internet check is needed.

[@namcojr]

I honestly hope your upcoming 767 also makes it to MSFS since i don't see myself moving to MSFS2024 anytime soon if ever. Thank you for your video, all the best!

[@vannyboxadventures7327]

Well you just confirmed my decision to stay with 2020!

[@RuLeZ1988]

To be honest the loading issue has been overworked quite fast recently. Iam able to load very quickly, and the visuals look great. Definitely not super yet, but I am looking forrqard how it will improve.

[@ravenn22]

100% - at least being able to download your planes and airports locally would be a huge improvement. Switching to external view and back, then watching your cockpit gauges slowly res back in is a non-starter. Waiting for aircraft thumbnails and liveries to slowly load in when changing planes in the menus is pretty disappointing as well. There's lots of little bad / frustrating UI choices and some really annoying bugs/choices from 2020 that haven't gone away as well, but all of that is fixable, as long as they can move part of the streaming to local content. Also, thanks for a grounded / non-hysterical video ;)

[@kschuble]

YES !!! Finally someone mentioning this issue (cloud based). It’s so frustrating to spend hundreds on upgrades in anticipation of this release to be limited now by the number of players at any given time, the possibility of my service provider throttling my speeds, or being throttled by Microsoft themselves. I need it on my drive!!! Please oh please!

[@enriqueosuna]

Cloud dependency with no offline mode is a killer. I think this is what MS/Asobo intended to do all along to satisfy the vast gamers market.

[@gervanwilliams1409]

Thank you! I agree, and I will be expressing my opinion through forums and directly. I have to ask the question with every subsequent iteration of a popular game/sim: why redo or completely upend everything that works? They have a blueprint with FS2020. Even 4 years of control settings and muscle memory upended. I’m yet to make a single flight in 3024 because I have to remap all of my controls before I can even take a single flight. This is just crazy. But, the streaming. Sheesh. This means not only do we not own the game after purchasing it, it also means that a server issue can result in global inaccessibility or at minimum, regional players unable to access. This is such a bad idea.

[@_daxre]

Thank you so much for the update and your constructive opinion on MSFS2024 Just one request for my side regarding future 2024 compatibility: If that‘s not too much extra work, please consider your first 2024 step to be pure 757 compatibility before eventually adding native 2024 features. That would be awesome. I used to have 2020 but don‘t have access to it any longer as some stupid dude out there decided to hack and delete my Microsoft account amongst others.

[@karmabasedj8184]

The most constructive video about msfs2024 amidst all the entitlement that's going on otherwise

[@Rocky-zv1yk]

I'm absolutely gobsmacked to think that there were guys on the dev team who thought having a completely offline 2025 was a good idea.

[@dylanbcso9723]

Thank you for keeping it in 2020! This cloud nonsense will not work period. Especially for people like me that take 3 days to install 2020. The 757 is my favorite aircraft of all time and I cannot go without it. Can't wait for release, you practically already have my money.

[@Max3Dev]

The downloading of a selected cache region like in FS2020 was perfect for me. I just selected what I wanted to be at various quality levels and download 100Gb of what I wanted. The fps went up substantially and I was happy with that. If FS2024 had this then we could do the same and only use a rolling cache if we roam outside the region previously selected/downloaded. If my internet ever went out then if I could load FS2024 to still play locally in my region that was held locally then it would not be a bother. Right now, if I tried to load FS2024 I would not be able to do a thing.

[@frankvanderwerff4337]

Thank you for the informative video. Good to hear about the flightmodel improvements which are in MSFS2024. It goes beyond saying I’m totally in favor for the option to be above to download a least a part of the simulator offline. I have a strong feeling MS/Asobo have underestimated the effects of making the simulator so completely dependent on the cloud. It should (must) be possible to have an offline mode, for at least a region. Most people don’t fly all over the world but focus on a certain region, at least for some time..

[@christianvazquezequihua7977]

THANK YOU for bringing awareness to the fact there is no online mode and the game relies heavily on the cloud. If we remember correctly when the Xbox one was first announced it required authentication to play any game and hence required the Xbox to be online, even to launch a game. Remember who won that generation(PS4). I appreciate the cloud, we don’t have petabytes of drive capacity yet; but I had no problem with loading times in 2020, I don’t know where this notion that loading times in the sim where an issue.(maybe just me) the only thing motivating me to upgrade to 2024 is the seasons(laugh at me) and the fact that devs like inibuilds are starting to abandon 2020(probably an incentive from MS). Don’t get me started with the ugly UI. This game feels like the arcade (sims 4) game we all dreaded when they first announced 2020(at least the simmers) thank you for not abandoning 2020 yet! Cheers!

[@jbninjah1776]

I'm in a holding pattern with FS2024. Looking forward with eager anticipation to the 757 for MSFS2020.

[@ChrisJohnson-hk6es]

I knew it would be a very rough start, which is why I didn't jump in on day one. I am gonna wait a little longer so they can get some of the bugs out. Looks amazing!!!

[@gwalker3092]

Agree everything you said and thank god release 757 on 2020. I appreciate the efforts that everyone made on 2024 but for me it’s not working and it’s a real pain. It nice when it works but at present it’s a mess and not very usable for me and I have gigabit internet ffs

[@ABeech-zv5ri]

I think there’s no going back on the cloud aspects. I think what we should be campaigning for is the most capable Microsoft backend to support it. If they’re all in on cloud computing (which they same to be), then the servers need to be able to handle much more and reliably to the point we don’t notice the difference

[@TheJordan221992]

I saw somewhere online that 24 is about 2TB which is why they went cloud based, I myself like many others just don’t have an internet connection that is fast enough, I wasn’t intending on getting 24 until next year but now I don’t think I’ll be able to play it anyway.

[@tompsu9536]

Once the marketplace comes available, there will also be coming the chance to download pretty much everything to your hard-drive and you can actually choose what you want to be downloaded and what streamed. Of course you can't download live data like live weather but I had a look at it and there is pretty much everything from sceneries, tins, aircrafts, animals, etc. This also means that you are not required to download every world update instead you can have them on cloud or disabled if you don't fly around that region.

[@GiuseppeNelva]

It's pretty amazing that people are completely ignoring this no matter how many times it's repeated.

[@bluebirdsim]

This is something I should have clarified in the video so I'll take the fault on that one. Yes scenery and planes can be downloaded to be off the cloud.

[@underleft]

Only the aircraft though. There's still no offline low quality terrain to take over when bandwidth problems happen.

[@dariojimenez2534]

Offline mode is a priority for the entire community! I don’t see my self simming off of so much support from the cloud. Although I already bought the new simulator I will be primarily using FS2020 until things get resolved. I think we all appreciate the new sim and it will be amazing down the road, just not there yet.

[@mdhazeldine]

Did 2020 even have a fully offline mode? A lot of scenery was streamed, so I don't think it's practical to suggest they offer a totally offline mode, but if they gave us the option to have it like 2020 where we have planes and airports offline, and then just stream the world scenery, I think that would make a lot of sense, and keep the server load down. It would also mean that if something goes wrong with your internet connection during a flight, you could at least finish the flight and land it.

[@chubbywubby90]

It was unplayable offline for me

[@Cptkooky]

3:04 couldn’t agree more, please MSFS!!!

[@N728DA]

I like everything you are about, I do agree with FS24 and I am glad I did not make the purchase yet. I am confident Asobo will work it out though (over time) but enough of that, LOOK AT THE ATARI FERRARI!!!❤

[@Jamboliner]

I am extremely frustrated at this point because I can't fly. Simple as that. I can go in career mode but no controls, if I try free flight it freezes on loading or in cockpit. Really looking forward for your BlueBird Sim's 757. Cheers

[@liamrey]

Fair play. I am not moving up anytime soon.

[@WilliamBlack-i7x]

I might buy it if I can get an off line version. Till then I’ll stick with X-plane12.

[@simonforsyth1755]

I agree 100 %, Microsoft are now discriminating against me because I'm limited to low internet speed, I was so looking forward to this evolution didn't realise I would be asking for a refund on day three of release. I think that Microsoft will be resistant to making more content downloadable but in the end will have no choice as problems and negativity will persist.

[@NemoThunderbolt]

I'am not a Boeing man, but glad to see such a great aircraft in the sim.

[@makvynas9]

cannot wait for the 757 it looks phenomenal

[@LethalThreat]

I’m fine with all of the map data being streamed kind of like how it is done in FS2020. However I want all aircraft data and detailed airports saved locally on my drive.

[@xxxxjet1982xxxx]

I play VR and I can see no reason to move to 2024 as performance is apparently a lot worse. I’m happy with 2020 and finally got it all dialled in perfectly. I’ll be buying the 757, the minute it’s released on 2020.

[@AviationBros1]

Just quickly wanted to say that I love what you guys are doing and that I love the people you chose to make these planes live up to their glory! I was also wondering if its going to come out q1 2025 or after?

[@bluebirdsim]

Thanks for the feedback. I want to try to avoid making any further release projections but I can say most likely it will be after Q1.

[@AviationBros1]

@ Thanks for the information and keep up the great work!

[@JB_Hobbies]

There are some novelties with 2024 that are nice, but let’s just say that I am keeping 2020 installed just in case.

[@Xavier-wo6ce]

100% agreed with the need to keep it offline. Cloud is a terrible idea.

[@simulacrae]

Jorg and the crew at asobo is fantastic, their support of 2020 over the years have been great. But I fear the shit Microsoft brings, like ALL aircraft being encrypted so they can’t be modded.

[@imurofaca6430]

I think that was their decision because of the career mode, they are looking into changing it

[@simulacrae]

@@imurofaca6430 yeah might be, but i don’t understand why this career stuff is so important

[@imurofaca6430]

@@simulacrae honeslty me neither its an offline career we dont care if people cheat

[@windshearahead7012]

She looks beautiful. Nice work

[@jnln]

I am yet to buy 2024. I will hold off until the game matures. The fully live aspect I am apprehensive about as someone who lives in a rural location, where the internet can drop out or at least go very slow for a little bit. 2O2O is in the best place right now, very stable and a good selection of aircraft. I look forward to the bluebird 757.

[@flywithlado]

I’m just here staring at that 757 😍

[@FPVSteve]

This should have been "Microsoft Flight! v2 - Powered by Microsoft Flight Simulator". We've regressed at least two years with this release and the "core simmer" experience has been sacrificed for the gaming side of things. They should have built this in parallel to 2020, using improvements in flight model, weather etc for both.

[@JimmyWoodardrj]

The issue for my as to "why" I haven't made a purchase of 2024 is because of "cloud base". I believe having such a complex and intense graphic game as this depending on the cloud is a "HUGE" mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Thanks for your input.

[@SooHooSamaSito]

The Majority of new games are disappointing at launch. With board members of these companies so addicted to pre-orders, the only way to fight back is to not purchase games until after the first patches post release which will force board members to put pressure on developers to release fully completed and tested games rather than developers spending most of their time wining and dining "influencers" rather than completing their games. I also no longer purchase games that are dependent on servers to play as those servers can be shut down whenever the publisher feels like pressuring customers to buy a newer version. At the end of the day, your money has power if you have patience and know how to use it.

[@lapjjj]

I don't have great internet witch is the big thing stopping me from playing fs2024. if I could download most of the game like 2020 that would be nice.

[@motleyaces]

Love your style.

[@AIAffiliator88]

2:38 I have 4 TB on my hard drive. Let's use them.

[@FlapsUpSimulations]

Exactly, we need that option to be able to install the game properly.

[@Neuro_Plot]

“You spent your money on storage? Too bad because you’re gonna have the same experience as someone with no actual income, but has access to an xbox. Lol.” -Microsoft

[@AIAffiliator88]

@@Neuro_Plot 4 tb isn't expensive now

[@Neuro_Plot]

@@AIAffiliator88 WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

[@philgreen815]

Am a big fan and user of MSFS 2020 finally installed 2024 this evening and WOW runs smooth as silk, graphics amazing, just need to complete the transformation with my VR headset, I can only flightsim in VR. So far so good.

[@bluebirdsim]

That is good to hear. I sincerely hope more users have your experience with the sim. I want FS2024 to succeed. :)

[@prolynxExplores]

I aint buying FS2024 until I see 2 options. 1. Offline mode, I aint depending on a good internet connection that I cannot control to stream aircraft and scenery. 2. I see it has a good multiscreen sim pit setup being able to easily have more than 3 screens showing. I want to be able to view the correct positions in the cockpit but without having to show the aircraft frame if ppl dont need it.

[@kingDTD1]

I think the biggest problem with the sim is that the marketplace was delayed which could be the reason why its not possible to download a lot of our addons and core components of the sim

[@nipotin-1374]

Could we have some information on the development of the 787 that would be really cool, i thank the bluebird team in advance for the work. All my support.

[@bluebirdsim]

Thanks for the support. We won't have any news on the 787 for quite some time. It was just the model that was being worked on for now. The core focus is the 757 and then 767 :)

[@nipotin-1374]

@ thank you for answering me, I understand and I wholeheartedly agree with you on 757/767. I thank you and the whole team, keep it up, all my support from France

[@MajorLazer182]

Thank you for voicing your opinion on this, feedback from people like you have a higher standing at Asobo I presume, hopefully they acknowledge the criticisms

[@bluebirdsim]

Thank you! I wish I had a high standing with MSFS/ Asobo. Until we release a project , they won't really talk to us directly. But I will do my best to voice what I think is best for the sim :)

[@TheOriginalGeekyNoob]

I gave up on a terrain simulator, and went to a flight simulator - it is a trade off, it isn't as nice to look at but... I can't deny, I massively prefer X-Plane 12 in terms of feel, performance, and - the whole thing is offline. It just works.

[@tedbarker3141]

Offline FTW it'll help keep the balance between the high and low bandwidth internet users and lighten the load on those cloud based services for sure!

[@DarthMalex]

Totally agree that there should be the option for offline functionality. Personally, i don't really have a problem streaming the real world scenery, but i would much rather have the airports and aircraft on my SSD drive. I mean, if the scenery can't stream in and has to fallback to some sort of basic "default" scenery, that's one thing, at least i can still fly. But if a plane won't load in, well - there is no flying then! I can understand some users who can't afford larger SSDs or X-Box users with limited drive space will reap the benefits from keeping everything online, which is why i think it needs to be an OPTION, but for someone like me with several TB of SSD space, it would be an option i would definitely take advantage of as there is no advantage in that case with having it all online only. Further, if they did that add that option, it might lower server demand, making it likely that those who would benefit from keeping everything online would see less service interruptions as well...

[@Hartbreak1]

Yeah offline needs to be a thing and also the ability to mod default planes. Right now all planes are encrypted.

[@edwardsp1916]

Completely agree with your view on MSFS and the cloud. 2024 needs to be at least the same as 2020. Moving further toward cloud streaming is a poor decision.

[@RuLeZ1988]

I don't agree on that fully. When the cloud system works good, it has a lot of neat benefits. Recently they overworked those stream issues and now it loads very quickly. Which keeps my hopes up that it will become better. Atleast iam looking forward how that is gonna develop.

[@ryanking6811]

I would like to download all my planes. I can’t load any of them up to customize them it’s takes too long, I just want to jump in and fly. Once you’re in it’s great but just setting things up at the moment is kind of a faff

[@lupo_aim]

Speaking the truth.

[@kent_p8671]

I bought the aviator edition and got a refund a few days later IM not interested in restarting fs2024 5 times before I can get to flying I might try again in a year from now and see if anything has changed.

[@vannyboxadventures7327]

Slightly off topic I am a licensed aircraft engineer in Europe I work on 767 and 757 everyday so if you need any close up shots or any further information hit me up happy to help.

[@bluebirdsim]

Thanks for offering. Just curious , do you have any access to the 535C engine? :D Feel free to contact me through the email on our website if you want to discuss further.

[@vannyboxadventures7327]

@@bluebirdsimwill do!

[@dannyone1565]

I totally agree with about the cloud need a offline mode

[@topofthegreen]

fun game if you can get into the server. I want a game that I can play when I want and not sit staring at a load screen. i wouldn’t waste money on this.

[@Autopilot_Austin]

I love how all gamers are requesting games to have offline modes and no developers are going through with it. I’m sure suits are involved.

[@BrickUnit]

This game was never going to launch they way that they marketed it, i knew it was too good to be true

[@aquaticllamas28]

We absolutely need shared cockpit

[@Justhydrogamez]

This looks beautiful, when would the release possibly be?

[@johanjacobs9240]

I agree. They should have delayed the initial sim launch until the marketplace download content is available. They've rushed it and jinx it so bad. Right now, developing for MSFS 2024 is like a dog chasing its tail. There will be many bug fixes in the future that will make any developer lose their sanity. On the other hand, MSFS 2020 is in a much more mature state, and developers are somewhat more comfortable with it. It also has a four-year lifespan.

[@OldRver]

Thank you, I left 2020 mid last year, because it just never worked on my I9-13400/nv-4090 PC. Went to XP-12, and it just works great. I always 95% fly the SSG-747, and it's just a great plane, highly recommended. I have been sim pilot since FS-95, so been doing this a while, huge supporter of MS sims until 2020. I will not waste my money again on 2024.

[@JaredJafhed]

It looks phenomenal!!!😁 I have a question and I hope it's not weird but will this be available LATER on Xbox? I say later because I know it will be an additional job for you but I just wait to see if it's in your idea then expand, because like other excellent MSFS developers like Phoenix or Ifly, due to external things you can't bring your products to Xbox. If this question was answered at another time, I'm sorry. ✌🏽🤙🏽

[@bluebirdsim]

Hi. We will eventually make an xbox version but it won't have all of the features ( like terrain radar ) of the PC version.

[@JaredJafhed]

@@bluebirdsim Thank you for answering, I understand that there are limitations due to how limited Xbox is, the important thing is that your aircraft is on our console and that's it🥲😂. Thank you very much again and happy new year!

[@flighterer]

I think the all in the cloud thing is the future anyway. It‘s naiv to believe it isn‘t. All they need to do is increase capacity and reliability and also allow you to download crucial stuff. The explained it well that there is no other way to keep increasing the amount of data.

[@PeterNGloor]

Will the 757 have the same system depth as the old Level-D model in FSX did?

[@holobolo1661]

I don't think the cache is working properly which may be adding to the cloud service woes. Each client downloading the same stuff over and over.

[@quackcement]

streaming airplanes instead of downloading them is a ridiculous idea, the plane stays with you during the entire flight.

[@PeterNGloor]

Any idea about the 757 release date?

[@brandonhenning8771]

Mine loads but it’s so full of glitches. I could barely get past my first “first flight” in career mode. Landing challenges are almost impossible, I.e. no throttle control, extreme turbulence etc.

[@FlightSims-v4p]

People were complaining that MSFS was so bloated with all the 3rd party stuff in the community folder that people did not have the hard drive space to store the game. I can see why they went to the cloud. But, its like whack a mole, solve one issue and several more pop up. I think going cloud based is them looking towards the future of gaming and not looking at the past.

[@Slow370Z]

I don’t like that they made a career mode. I understand why, but I think it made it a mess.

[@Viper816]

The career flightplanning and fuel calculations have a 100% failure rate. It is astonashing to have a 100% anything. But they managed to do it. It just tells me that they have not even flown one complete flight in career. Otherwise they would have noticed😂

[@2oqp577]

About the cloud thing; if the real planes need the solidity of ARINC429 connections inside the plane, then why not devout our efforts, as an industry to have everything about the simulation be as solid as ARINC429? TCP/IP doesn't cut it.

[@alexandernev24]

Im getting pumped for MSFS 2026

[@billplatt]

You can't even disable marketplace addons. Many of which are designed for 2020 and broken in 2024 but you are forced to have them "streamed" with no option to disable them

[@old_guard2431]

You aren’t wrong. But I don’t think they can X-Box it without the cloud stuff. This is America, well into the 21st century, and any game or simulation developer that wants serious traction in the most lucrative market needs to go console or go home. I recently bought a new stick with twist rudder because I had to leave my pedals behind in the move from the basement to the living room. Out of the box it was set up for X-Box. The handwriting is on the wall. So, all this cloud stuff (and the multithreading etc. which marginalized the processor I bought for MSFS 2020) is 1) brilliant if they can make it work and 2) not in my best interests. What I expect is that the devs will be much more focused on X-Box issues than PC issues. So I would not expect effort on stand-alone features for MSFS 2024. What I would hope for is a commitment to maintain MSFS 2020, and some work on cross-platform compatibility between the two versions. I have not downloaded MSFS 2024 yet (waiting for the drama to die down). I will probably buy MSFS 2020, because. . . Why not? The real cost is computer hardware and peripherals, the cost of the sim is chump change. And if Microsoft cuts 2020 adrift the community will probably keep it alive.

[@bluebirdsim]

Thanks for the response. You make some very valid points. The X box market is a huge part of the community now. However it also depends on the developer and what market they are aiming for. We are aiming for the PC users with the features and depth of the 757/767. However, we will still make an X-box version for both planes but with certain features removed because they are not supported. Some devs can only run on the PC. In the long run, I really want FS2024 to succeed for both PC and console users.

[@SN57ONE]

Yeah. Tried it, I was a bit disappointed because they said it would be faster than 2020 due to it being lighter. I guess they only catered this to people who use Elon Musk's internet connection.

[@ytpchannel9467]

not playing fs2024 too many bugs and puts my pc at risk of being over storage

[@speedbird8326]

My honest opinion. It's utterly pathetic. So many bugs it will be a year before they get to them all. All the simps on the forums trying to make excuses for Asobo. I got a refund and then I switched to Game Pass for $1 for 14 days after which I will cancel Game Pass. And no, the servers aren't fixed. New reports today of blurry terrain and missing buildings and long load times.

[@drumcode420]

They should hold their heads down in shame for this dumpster fire. 6 days into the release and I have 0NM complete. Scandalous.

[@welivekonaside4263]

Let’s see what happens I bought a beautiful $ 2800 dollar computer for 2024 but had my doubts about the online idea since nothing else cloud based works very well all the time! At least my 2020 is screaming with the new computer--lol !