My Performance Model 3 Has Issues

[@dangrass]

I replaced my 2019 LRDM with the 2024 Performance earlier this week and can share my observations. With one exception, the assembly quality of the new car is substantially better than the old car. The new car feels a whole lot tighter than the old car ever did. I have noted 2 defects with the new car so far. The first is that there was hardly any washer fluid in the reservoir, and the second is that the under-windshield trim piece with the cool LED strip was not seated with its mating part, resulting in a 1/4" difference in height between the windshield piece and the door piece. Have tried to seat it properly by pushing it down, but no luck. Other than that, the new car just feels a lot tighter than the 2019 car ever did. Needless to say, the car really shouldn't have been delivered with these issues....but they are pretty minor. As compared to other new cars I've purchased in the last decade, this one is actually pretty good. Certainly better than my VW GTi and VW Jetta TDi, and about on par with my 2016 Prius. My earlier Subaru WRX had no obvious fit issues, but then the AC never really worked properly, and the Prius has experienced decomposing plastic trim pieces and a failed catalyst since I sold it to my sister. (at about 50k miles) By comparison, even my 2019 Model 3 has been substantially better than the Prius. While the 2024 Model 3 could have been a little better, in terms of panel gaps and such it's actually better than the 3 year old BMW M3 that I park next to at a friend's house. All in all, pretty much world class.

[@ianbladuell2694]

They’re all within Tesla spec, havent you learn anything from having a 2018 Tesla

[@benjaminfranklin4760]

I’ve noticed the led light panel gap thing you’re talking about is the same on every single one I’ve seen, so I’m starting to think it’s designed that way on purpose.

[@jocelyndrolet4610]

Over the past 20 years, I have got 2 Subaru, 4 BMW ( 3 and 4 series) and a Tesla M3 LR 2020. Last week I got a Tesla M3 LR 2024, this latter is way better than any of my previous cars. It feels a lot tighter, no panel gap that I can see, a lot quieter, exceptional sound quality, and a ton of new features that was not available in my M3 2020. For example, automated trunk, cool seat, heated steering, backseat screen, much better tires, and so on... it is true that we must get used to the signal buttons, I would also prefer to have the left one on the side of the steering wheel and the right one on the right side of it,it would be more intuitive. Also, the horizontal reflexion across the front window is a real problem.

[@mmark300]

I agree, does feel tighter overall. Trying some 18" wheels on for winter and the car is even more comfortable and quiet. I also had very little washer fluid in mine...

[@3dgarMendez]

For the buttons, you just put your thumb on the divider line and then move up or down. Very simple. No issues going on my second week with this car. Does take some getting used to though.

[@betitos11]

Sorry sir, its within Tesla specs 🙄🙄🙄

[@Traveling_Texas_in_a_Tesla]

@ 0:59 - Yeah, let's not put vertical videos in our YT video, especially when you shot the start of this video correctly!

[@ricric9521]

It is kind of in line with the "Issues" presented in this video. I mean really, these are the "issues"? And then present the video this way? LOL

[@mmark300]

Yeah, I shot some of it this way anticipating it was going to be a short

[@Flpnout]

I actually like the haptic buttons for the signals. I just use the little line as a guide without having to look that the top is right and bottom is left. It took literally a few days to get used to them. I’m a minimalist so the less clutter the better for me. ✌️

[@danielkimball3037]

The removal of the stalks was a big mistake by Tesla. I recently bought a 2024 Model Y Performance and one of the selling points vs the Model 3 Performance for me was that it still had them.

[@Zergcerebrates]

I actually like the turn signal buttons. I test drove the new Model 3 at an event, worked every time flawlessly.

[@r3x_delta30]

Yeah I’ve had my highland for 4 months now and I definitely prefer the buttons over stalks

[@dariusslay279]

Cap those buttons sometimes stick and it is cheap to save 8cents making it a button instead of the stalk. Making everything in the screen is the way they can change the prices because the mark up is insane. Elon running game on these unsuspecting bots

[@r3x_delta30]

@@dariusslay279 have you driven one? I don’t think It’s even possible for my buttons to stick like you are claiming. If anyone is a bot it’s you my friend just mindlessly making up lies about a car company

[@kellywhite3633]

Got my Shanghai build yesterday, no issues found yet 🤞

[@Flpnout]

The triangle piece on the exterior near side mirror was also loose on mind on the passenger side. Tesla just came over to my house and replaced it with another one. I just have some interior rattle stuff and will be bringing it in for 2nd time tomorrow.

[@mmark300]

Did you see? I'm assuming it's just taped on there.

[@Flpnout]

@@mmark300 The tech quickly popped it off and popped in the new one.

[@scotttucker2557]

Thank your for getting the highland not many youtube makers state side make vids on the highland and especially the performance I can't wait to see what upgrades especially the highland stalks and the audio upgrades I would love to see if the alpine system fits like you did in your other video with heppaking

[@twox16r]

The turn signals are terrible. I thought I pressed them, but they didn't work several times.

[@cellman1829]

Those bubbles could be from the laminate in-between the double pane glass 🤔🤔 that would be my only guess. Sorry about those creaks , my refreshed M3 LR doesn't have any squeaks rattles or creaks after 3 months. I love my car. Your car looks 😎😎

[@bradmason8606]

It’s disappointing how they haven’t cleaned up their build quality. My ‘19 M3P isn’t terrible but it has some panel gaps that are off, the driver seat has the rock and pop sound, and I’ve had to replace the foam to stop various vibration rattles many times. “Within spec” is a croc, Tesla spec is the same spec GM had in the late 70’s.

[@FromPetroltoTesla]

What are peoples wheel alignments like after, say, 1000 miles?

[@michaeltalka3902]

Pretty funny…I too have a brand new white performance model 3. Took delivery on June 26. I have exact same issue with right mirror and hood being slightly misaligned. At least they’re consistent lol. Luckily no creaks with the seat and zero issues with turn signals so far

[@mmark300]

@@michaeltalka3902 Congrats! Ha, yeah, consistently bad. I have yet to contact tesla with my issues...

[@JinChoi]

Hiya Mark, just got my M3P and I saw the exact same issue as your first problem. Did Tesla ever get it corrected? I'm debating if its worth the hassle or even the risk of making it worse. Thanks and just subbed!

[@mmark300]

Hi, no, I haven't had anything fixed yet, but someone else said that they can fix that triangle piece very quickly. I'm guessing it's just taped on, like SO many things on cars today. And Thanks for subbing!

[@JinChoi]

@@mmark300appreciate the reply! Because of your recent video regarding alignment, I scheduled service immediately with Tesla to make sure the wheels are aligned since I did notice it just slightly veering to the right when I took it off the lot. Better safe than sorry and no charge too!

[@TopShelfTesla]

This is exactly why I kept my 2019 m3p - I still feel like it is the superior model 3 build year - pre-COVID, all original kinks worked out. Sorry you have so many issues, Mark, hopefully none of these are “within spec” but I have a fleeting suspicion they will be 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@3dgarMendez]

Had none of these issues on mine. It’s way better than previous gen.

[@mmark300]

I'm having that same "within spec" feeling, but I'll find out.

[@brettalbert1842]

Your video is very informative, but.....if you push on the silver trim piece of the steering wheel, you can't expect the right turn signal to activate. You literally pushed on the trim piece, several times. If I aim to depress the "1" button on my phone, and hit the "2" button instead, I am not shocked when the number "1" doesn't appear on my screen.

[@mmark300]

The point is that while we're driving, we can't expect to hit those buttons perfectly every time. I'm putting enough pressure on the button area so that, if it was designed well, the button should depress. As an example, I'm clicking my mouse button all over the place in a 1" x 1" area and it still works perfectly. Then look at 5:10 - I'm off the mark, but getting closer until I'm now hitting the arrow directly and it won't press in - the button jams up. This is really bad design for a signal button.

[@JonathanGurgul]

Mine has the creaking seat and the bottom of the steering wheel squeaks really bad too. Also passenger mirror gets stuck upon adjustment.

[@surfntrucks]

Beautiful car. That front bumper should have been the original launch bumper.

[@WhiteHartMart]

Test drove one in the UK today - general interior build quality seemed a lot better than my Model Y BUT, the drivers seat had the creaking issue which would drive me mad.

[@mmark300]

@WhiteHartMart Luckily I really don't notice the seat creak often at all

[@3dgarMendez]

The right and left button idea for the turn signals also doesn’t make sense. You would need two hands to drive vs one hand driving just having it on one side. I’ve had no issues so far. Insightful video though for things to watch out for!

[@fitfogey]

Marques Brownlee had the exact same problem with the right blinker in his Tesla Model S Plaid as you do in this. They still haven’t fixed it.

[@user-gx1uj1lt9b]

I've had my 2024 M3P for 4 weeks now. When you press the signal buttons do not try to stab at it with the tip of your thumb like you're doing in the video. That's the natural instinct but it doesn't work. Instead lie your entire thumb flat across the whole button area then push. You'll see it works much better than way. Took me a while to figure this out. Regarding your other issues I don't have any those in my car but do have other issues. I don't think Tesla's will ever be close to flawless like with my new Porsche and BMW cars. I just lowered my expectations and accept that they will come with issues.

[@davejohnson6144]

Im sick of the stalkless design on my 2024 M3P and also plan getting the aftermarket stalks! Which one are you getting ? Seems like there are a few companies offering it like Hansshow and Tesstudio but I’m wondering if they are from the same company?

[@helper734]

I'm having massive steering wheel button problems. All 6 buttons are problematic. I have almost 20k kms and 5 Tesla service visits and still remain unsolved. The buttons go completely dead, no click no nothing. Doesn't matter how hard or where you push. Tesla keeps saying wait for a firmware issue. I've spoke to transport Canada and filed a complaint. Double scroll wheel reset used to work temporarily and after a few days reset does nothing now. I've been trying everything to get Tesla's attention but remain unsuccessful.

[@helper734]

I've also had my steering wheel replaced. It made it worse and I asked Tesla to put the old one back and they said they can't do that.

[@Matth9782]

Glad you got one of these, I have enjoyed your videos on the old one. Thanks for showing all the little fit and finish issues, annoying this stuff still goes on. Keep us posted on how they are resolved, I am assuming Tesla service can resolve them all fairly easily.

[@mmark300]

Thanks for watching and I'll be updating!

[@Shackleford_Rusty]

Your steering wheel buttons issue is user error and failure to understand manual of arms. Just grab the steering wheel and place your thumb over the signal you want to hit. Your use of the finger tip is not required

[@toddshreve]

hehe, "You're holding it wrong" - Steve Jobs

[@mmark300]

I don't agree - look at 5:10 - I'm off the mark, but getting closer until I'm now hitting the arrow directly and it won't press in - the button jams up. This is really bad design for a signal button. The buttons on my mouse depress flawlessly no matter where I push it within a 1" x 3/4" area. Keyboard spacebars haven't had this issue for like a hundred years.

[@BrandonLeTran]

Thanks for the video, surprised to hear the Plaid has the same turn signal issue as the 2024 Model 3 Performance

[@playingforlast7639]

Mark, I have the same seat creaking. Did tesla figure out the creak?

[@mmark300]

I haven't sent it in yet, but I hope they can fix it.

[@phat_gunpla_etc]

i agree on the light trim glare on the windshiield...wonder why only you and mean complain about that....maybe there will be a after market to make the trim black for less reflectiveness?

[@aussie2uGA]

I have to say, I love it when all of these are 1st world issues vs something like "driveline fault - avoid going through water and schedule service soon..."

[@z28style23]

What's lowering springs are you going with? I was thinking unplugged performance low springs and rear arms for alignment. Only concern is how will it work with the adaptive suspension. Cuz the adaptive suspension is amazing and feels like an S over bumps and roughness but the wheel gap, smh

[@mmark300]

I'm going with the Eibach Pro kit - hopefully today. I almost wish it didn't have this adaptive suspension so I could just do coilovers and have the ability to adjust the ride height...

[@z28style23]

@@mmark300 yeah I rather do coilovers too. Had the MPP on my 21 M3P and loved them. Hope the lowering springs and adaptive suspension sit nice and maintain the adaptive suspension ride. Look forward to your review after lowering

[@jordancurtiss]

I have the same exact car just black exterior and white seats, my driver seat is making this exact same noise as well!! must be a common issue

[@mmark300]

This makes me worry that they're not going to be able to fix it...

[@frumpd63]

Mine has a ton of issues also. My alignment was WAY off, super towed out up front. My washer fluid sensor is bad. Several ridiculous paint defects. Wheels are pretty marked up from the blade inserts. And on and on. Love these cars but have to stop buying them new.

[@ten2055]

Turn signals controls are capacitive switches, not physical button switches.

[@mmark300]

From what I can tell they are both. I have a new video with carbon fiber overlays on the buttons (kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3zVmWx7l7uKmsUsi=W8i4n3z-Lh1r8zbc) and, for example, if you press on the microphone button, the wipers will sometimes come on.

[@nexusly6720]

expect a recall on the turn signal buttons next year its ridiculous how they made then so crappy

[@davejohnson6144]

Does anyone else have unlevel ambient lighting where the Dash led meets the front of the door? Mine does not line up and the dash is higher on one side 🤬. Plan on taking it to the Tesla service center but will probably be told it’s within spec 😫. I noticed other highlands had the same issue at the Tesla delivery center. 😏

[@jamfamreptiles1286]

Curious if this is a China or US build car?

[@kevj9928]

If SpaceX built a rocket like this,it wouldn’t make it past the clouds… Years ago, I get it, but now, unacceptable. I have same vehicle and imagine Porsche or rivian tearing down these cars thinking, this is shitty, we can do better. Tesla has gone through so much…quality control should be ramping wayyy up by now. On the upside, you are resourceful and will correct all these issues…picking up where Tesla left off so to speak 😅.

[@mmark300]

Yep, fully agree!

[@GabeStrom82]

Yeah, I noticed that reflection in the windshield when I test drove the new model 3. Annoying but probably fixable in the aftermarket. I hope Tesla takes notice and tones down the reflection and adds some tactile buttons. Looking forward to your stalk modification.

[@jackpremiumaccount]

Mine popped a notification while driving saying “rear motor disabled” and then said pull over and then the car stopped moving. So darn angry man. Have you or do you know of any issues like this? It did start back up tho.

[@mmark300]

Crap, no, never had a message like that. Actually, I may have had one message like that, of many messages, when my 12v battery started going bad on my 2018. Get that looked at right away or you'll be stranded somewhere for sure.

[@dyhppyx]

Can't wait to hear your review of the stalks

[@cellman1829]

I have the refreshed M3 LR and I have zero issues with the lack of stalks. After a few weeks you get used to it and I haven't looked back. The shift out of park beta works like 99 percent of time. It is awesome. When you are ready to go into park just take off seatbelt and done car shifts into park it's so simple yet makes the experience much more enjoyable. Only time I need to touch the screen to shift is when I do a three point turn or I need to put car in reverse if it picked forward instead but this is rarely.

[@mmark300]

​@@cellman1829Auto shift out of park is much closer to 50/50 for me - almost never goes into reverse out of driveway when I'm right in front of my closed garage door!

[@ytooooj]

So you're upset about the fact that glass is reflective and that buttons don't work when you push beside them?

[@alpahc]

you think you have time to pinpoint and look at the exact position where you need to click as you're drinving ?

[@mmark300]

Yes and we should be able to press that entire button area and have it depress correctly. My mouse does this, no problem; my giant space bar (keyboard) does this, no problem. Then look at 5:10 - the button gets jammed up and won't work at all. This is very poor design.

[@ericjohnson1360]

@@mmark300do you have buyers remorse? My delivery day is Tuesday and I’ll be a first time Tesla owner. I’m not very good at this panel gap stuff either.

[@mmark300]

@@ericjohnson1360 No, not at all - this is the best model 3 by far! Congrats!

[@ericjohnson1360]

My car came in a few days early and I took delivery late this afternoon. Great car, blown away at the driving experience, looks and quality. I may have been lucky with no gap or paint issues. It was in perfect condition. Hopefully it stays that way.

[@av_oid]

Getting the hanshow stalks?

[@mmark300]

@@av_oid Yes, I am testing them now, but they are not 100%. They are in the process of updating the SW, so stay tuned

[@av_oid]

@@mmark300 I’ve been weighing up getting them. What issues are you having and how can they be updated? Is there a USB port on the stalk assembly or on the harness where it plugs into canbus and power? Thanks in advance.

[@mmark300]

@@av_oid Sometimes the blinkers wouldn't stay on long enough and it wouldn't always change into reverse or drive. Those look to be fixed, but it still won't go into Park and the high beam doesn't work like OEM. The update was using Wechat and bluetooth connection to the stalks.

[@av_oid]

@@mmark300 thanks for the reply. Do they say they are working on the park button issue? At least update via Bluetooth is convenient.

[@mmark300]

@@av_oid Yes, they're working on it.

[@tommy13965]

😂 I have the creaking seats to though not as pronounce as yours other than that mine is perfect I have the white also but with black interior. I also agree with the signal buttons I hate it prefer the stalk much better.

[@danejordan8276]

My seats only creak if I have the lowered all the way. If you raise them one cm up the creaking goes away completely. Let me know if it fixes it for you. Also would be curious what Tesla says.

[@tommy13965]

@@danejordan8276 that’s the first thing I did was adjust the seats to see if that would help but it still creaks. I’m not going to make a service appt until there is a real fix it’s not that bad.

[@LeeErnstGroup]

I need those cooled seats in AZ!!!

[@alpahc]

Totaly agree on those buttons

[@fratta3393]

same problem with the right arrow 😳 just like you i thought it was me

[@mmark300]

Helped fix the problem by putting stalks back in - so much better! Check it out here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnjNfpqZptuXhKc

[@rob3812]

Why didn’t you refuse at delivery

[@mmark300]

@rob3812 None of the problems are bad enough to refuse delivery and I wanted to find ss many issues as possible before calling service

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

there is a wrap there at 2:34....

[@johnkim3018]

ha.. i got the same exact issue on passenger side mirror. got it fixed at Tesla service center. I had some minor panel gap issue that I raised, but Tesla said it was within their spec.

[@mmark300]

Good to know, thanks!

[@acdmonteiro]

Quality control is really bad...Tesla is the only car brand that actually needs an aftermarket checklist. It's that bad...

[@vedant_bhoj]

Definitely it's a wrap on the b pillars! Tesla employee peeled it for me! 😅

[@BlueElectricityTesla]

Agreed the signal buttons are trash

[@MihaiConstantinPau]

I get the annoying seat noise and thr buttons. The rest is just too much free time. Just drive thr thing

[@mmark300]

And the trim by the mirror? And the bubbles on the camera pillar?

[@AlexTheBossMan]

"within spec"

[@rays8346]

Just lease the car and don't worry about it

[@PlayBetterSlots]

Pretty sure your Tesla card should be revoked LOL

[@gilberthaynes1523]

Elon must resign as CEO of Tesla

[@austinzizzi1142]

Jesus Christ, these people are so incessant

[@johnbcardin]

So it sounds like Tesla hasn’t improved. I wonder how long before everything starts squeaking

[@3dgarMendez]

Had none of these issues.

[@lt9357]

This is one of many things gay people complain about. Cringy

[@mireliomarzo6468]

🐊USA ASSEMBLED and CHINA MADE.

[@G82Watts]

I mean dude. U spent 40k or whatever and bought the worst rated brand right next to polestar in quality control. Its been 5 years of this and u people are still buying it and complaining? How about u get a german made car and BOOM their goes all ur problems. New Taycan albiet expensive is the best EV

[@mmark300]

Worst rated brand? According to who? And based on sales and likelihood of buying another, these issues are hardly deal breakers. More like buy a German car and BOOM will be my problem 😂 Seriously, I love German cars but reliability is not their forte

[@G82Watts]

@@mmark300 go look at JD reliability chart rankings. Tesla and polestar at the bottom.

[@mmark300]

@@G82Watts It says right in the rankings that tesla can't be ranked, which is why it's listed at the bottom. (Note:^Brand is not rank eligible because it does not meet study award criteria.) Cmon man. And then we'd still need to see a breakdown by model and issue type.

[@G82Watts]

@@mmark300 yea it doesn't make the chart because it's so bad 😂 do u see the numbers next to tesla and polestar? They have the highest out of the lot.

[@mmark300]

@@G82Watts The numbers aren't great, but tesla is not the worst. And again, what are the issues they are finding? If they're mostly like mine, then what I like about my car far outweighs the issues

[@eddieair23]

Nipples are a great idea! I like Nipples 😅