My Problem With Japan (and why it's not Japan's fault)

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The Hayze

The Hayze

Күн бұрын

I have a problem with Japan. It's not Japan's fault, it's the CCP, but then nobody would care. China is big but not influential besides its economy, and it's due to censorship by the Chinese government. A ton of Japanese stuff, like Kimonos, Ramen, and Kotos originally came from China. Most people don't know this, since China has no soft power and no cultural exports, so they just assume it's a purely Japanese thing. And so, nobody thinks China's culture is cool.
Music credit:
China's Atomic Theme from Civilization VI
Xiao Ping Guo by the Chopstick Brothers, cover by T-Ara
Naatu Naatu from RRR
Giorno's Theme from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Piano cover of Red Sun in the Sky
And the Sun Rises by Darren Curtis
我期待的不是雪 by Zhang Miaoge
Love Confession by Jay Chou
Kai's Theme and Agni Kai remix by Samuel Kim
我期待的不是雪 piano cover by Sky Music
0:00 Intro
1:26 China doesn't have free speech, and so Japan gets credit
3:32 Authoritarian governments are bad at making movies
8:57 China used to be a god of influence
12:30 China's slow, painful decline
13:55 World War II and the Chinese Civil War
15:59 Why Taiwan friggin' rocks
20:17 Chinese Immigrants and American Movies
21:11 Final Thoughts
22:35 Outro

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@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Jeez, did this get posted to a Chinese nationalist subreddit or something? Why are there so many goddam CCP defenders in my comments section?
@yifanruan192
@yifanruan192 3 ай бұрын
You claim to love China's culture, yet you still approach China's modern history from a colonist's point of view. Listen to what the current Chinese people say and think. Don't just love our culture but dismiss our voices. You attract these voices because you touch upon a subject very close to our hearts - for that I am grateful.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I CAN'T listen to what current Chinese people think, because every time they try to speak their mind, they get fucking black bagged by the CCP. I would LOVE to learn what Chinese people think of the government, but I either have to get it through the lens of censored speech from China, or from people who chose to leave the country.
@yifanruan192
@yifanruan192 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 The lack of inter-cultural internet is a large part of why the discussion on China here in the West is so limited. People in China don't get "fucking black bagged" anymore. Your comment seems to suggest that this video is attracting people like me who may be pointing out the biases and misunderstandings you have about China's recent history. I am encouraging you to listen to what we have to say. I only spend time on this video instead of so many others because I was touched by how you understand China's historical heights. Also - within China, people shit on the government all the time - though the government is still generally popular. If you ever go back to visit, over a couple of beers, most people are happy to talk about their opinions on current politics. Just no challenging party legitimacy publicly.
@alanfriesen9837
@alanfriesen9837 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 Most people who choose to leave the country have a beef with the country. This is not just true of China. One should always approach an expat with a certain degree of skepticism. The vast majority of Chinese do not feel oppressed. That's not to say that the government cannot be oppressive if you really piss them off, but the government understands that it is in their best interest to take care of their people, and for the most part, that's what they try to do, and the vast majority of Chinese appreciate that. You should visit China if you can. I think you'll discover that your preconceived notions about freedom within China are off the mark. Also, western media hates China because the Chinese don't let them do whatever the hell they want. China has censors, and western media hates them because of that, and they pillory the country relentlessly as a general act of vengeance. Censorship does mean restricted speech, but China is not nearly the hellscape that our journalists like to claim. I can't comment on whether or not Chinese media treats the west similarly, because I don't speak Chinese.
@freemanol
@freemanol 3 ай бұрын
because you jump to a naive conclusion like most westerners do, separating everything into simple "good vs bad". china bad, taiwan good. you have a shallow understanding of the political and cultural situation in china, yet you made a very quick conclusion which is just naive. you've barely scratched the surface. there are many many many nuances to be had when it comes to mainland china. it's not left vs right like in the west. what you lack is humility and the willingness to learn more, especially from actual mainland chinese peoeple.
@LennoxKornelis
@LennoxKornelis 4 ай бұрын
I was expecting a much angrier video with that title lol
@yxmxxn
@yxmxxn 3 ай бұрын
The monkey king story that dragon ball and goku are inspired by is actually a Chinese thing
@kaiserfranzjoseph9311
@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 3 ай бұрын
not really chinese, more generally continental Asia. Its as much a thing of areas like Nepal, Tibet and northern India as China
@coolorochi
@coolorochi 3 ай бұрын
​@@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 "journey to the west" is Chinese.
@DubboU
@DubboU 3 ай бұрын
@@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 that is because the story of "Journey to the West", where the inspiration of Dragon Ball originally came from, is a Buddhist folklore.
@kaiserfranzjoseph9311
@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 3 ай бұрын
@@coolorochi its not only Chinese, its Buddhist and from the entire region. exclusively giving the credit to China is just wrong
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
It was written entirely by a Chinese guy, takes place in China for half the plot, and for the rest of the plot it was in Central Asia and India. It's an intentional fictionalization of a historical event, where a Chinese monk named Xuanzang went to India and brought buddhist scripture back to China. Not to be pedantic, but it's not a religious text, and Japan and Korea literally never show up in the plot. They've created a lot of the best media adaptations, like Dragon Ball, but the original story is Chinese.
@plethodon1575
@plethodon1575 3 ай бұрын
The katana originated from the chinese dao
@thirion1850
@thirion1850 4 ай бұрын
This reeks of "tea culture isn't British". One culture adopting the tenets of another is commonplace throughout history. Japan, much like any other said culture, adopted and then warped those cultural artifacts to suit their own native view thereof, such as Buddhism and its many natively diverging sects. The kimono, ramen (and its many predecessors), the koto, are all very much Japanese, in the same way as the hanfu, lamian and the guzheng are all very much Chinese. Korean immigrants during the 600's brought in a wealth of poetry, helping create the native yamato-uta. The many embassies to the Tang brought back religious works and indeed the alphabet that would later morph through a long series of complicated fashion trends into hiragana and katakana. Indeed, these embassies stopped during the middle Heian period, during the Tang's precipitous decline, *allowing* for Japan to more easily "Japanify" everything it had absorbed. The notion that China was a wonderland and only "declined in the 1750's" is frankly a denigration of its massively turbulent history, and the sheer amount of culture *it too* absorbed from say, the Manchu people (who ruled them), the Mongols (who also ruled them) and the selfsame Koreans (who they warred against on several occasions). That's not even looking at Buddhism, which coming from India, at first overturned the local theology of Confucianism and Dao, and was then melded into them. In short, it was an exchange of ideas, and is a lot more complicated than "lol China invented everything".
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I was hoping it wouldn't come off that way. Kimonos, Ramen, etc. are just as much Japanese as they are Chinese, of course. They've developed there for a long time, and they have their own versions of all of the things I mentioned. And of course, Buddhism originally came from India, which was also quite an influential country. My point wasn't that China was the only influential nation around, just that it was by far the most influential in East Asia. I wasn't trying to degrade Japan, Vietnam, and Korea at all, just to mention that a lot of the cool stuff they have is also present in China.
@thirion1850
@thirion1850 4 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 That's certainly a lot more reasonable. China was indeed the epicenter of cultural development and the model under which many of its neighbors based themselves. Hell, the very idea of the Japanese emperor ("tenno", heavenly sovereign) having a "mandate of heaven" stems directly from that Chinese theology. There's a good reason they (the Chinese) treated with foreign powers as "sovereign vs subject" rather than equals, to the point where Japan even daring to refer to itself as an equal (ruler of the land where the sun rises) almost broke down diplomatic talks entirely. They were the undisputed top dogs of the Asian old world.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 4 ай бұрын
That's what I was trying to get at, like with the line at 12:03, "I'm not trying to understate the impact Japanese, Vietnamese, and Koreans had, they created a lot of stuff too, but China was such a cultural powerhouse for such a long time that it's just not that comparable." Like, of course China got inspired in return, and other powers could affect China, it's just that China was easily the most influential of the countries in East Asia.
@trebatthetop
@trebatthetop 3 ай бұрын
One of the most reasonable comment I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you so much!
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
I am unsure about China being easily the most influential, since influence is always a two-way road. For me, Tibet is the most influential. For some, Indian was more (Shinto of Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, laos, and others as well) It's better to not claim who was the 'most' influential. When in this world, everyone influences everyone.
@jimmyrustles358
@jimmyrustles358 4 ай бұрын
Agree. Can't understate how important China was in influencing the culture of East Asia. Biggest fall off of all time right up there with Kanye.
@Ocelot835
@Ocelot835 2 ай бұрын
Well, Greece was also influential long ago but centuries later its cultural legacy is holding by former barbarians of the periphery. The decline of once great major powers and pass of their "civilization" tourches to once considered lesser neighbors happens all the time in history of mankind, it's not somethings unique to China.
@tpsam
@tpsam 2 ай бұрын
Except Kanye literally has the biggest song of the year with carnival for now
@victorn5870
@victorn5870 3 ай бұрын
WellJapan didn't copy and plagiarize giant robots
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Of course not! Well, not entirely, they were a thing in American animation first, but Japan was really the pioneer in that sort of thing. It's not like Japan hasn't innovated artistically, in the last 50 years they've done it a ton! It's mostly that China, the historically more influential country right next door, hasn't had the same opportunity.
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
​@@thehayze259Do you have a superiority complex? China was the most influential... The China I see now is all because of America and Japan's help. Please be more humble. Every country is influential. If I say that Japan conquered China because it is a superior race, how will it feel? Please be a little more mindful.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Well, we know that Japan only conquered China because they were a stable industrialized nation at a time when China was undeveloped and in civil war. Not only would it be racist and incorrect, it would also be completely irrelevant.
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 That is why I said, 'If I say'. Similarly, unfortunately, China also wasn't the most influential.
@tpsam
@tpsam 2 ай бұрын
​@@thehayze259China is just waiting Luffy to punch xi jinping down off his throne and liberate them but Luffy is too busy fighting his own marine world govt to be fixing china now that's going to be in 2 piece
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
Reading the comments after listening to the video again, the creator does have a good take, an open mind and progressive outlook. However, I still don't agree with China being the most influential. For me, by my readings of historical documents and travelligues, each country was just as influential. Each shared the better parts of their culture, and that was how I feel that the culture of Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Indonesian, Laos, Vietnam, Phillipines and others are so interconnected.
@afanisthedolphin
@afanisthedolphin 2 ай бұрын
Super informative video about a topic I hadn't really thought about before. I did have the occasional "Huh, kinda strange how Japan and South Korea seem much more representetive to the west of what Asia is instead of its biggest country," but I never put much thought into it. Amazing content man, I gotta check out your channel.
@deanzaZZR
@deanzaZZR 3 ай бұрын
Angry man because China doesn't export "good" TV series and movies. 笑
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretty much.
@Metalseadraking
@Metalseadraking 3 ай бұрын
Came for the Korra Video and stayed for Videos like this or the Pedro II video I like the way you do your videos and talk about topics. Now for the actual topic lol I totally agree with you, there is so much potential in chinese Artist that gets repressed by the government and its really sad that China is crippling itself like that. I have known 2 chinese Artists that I used to follow actively, that had to shut down their online activities because of censorship And on a random note, I'm vietnamnese and I don't really know if our cultural impact (as in stuff people talk about) even comes close to places like Japan or South Korea lol
@ShinSheel
@ShinSheel 3 ай бұрын
Dunno, i think taking seriously the fight over origin place is just a question where you draw a line, especially over things that so directly come from local agriculture like noodles
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Sorry if it came across that way. My point was not that those things weren't also Japanese, just that they also exist in China, and that that often seems to go unacknowledged since the CCP is so repressive. Ramen is Japanese of course, it's just Chinese too.
@ShinSheel
@ShinSheel 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 I didn't mean to criticize you as well. I actually like your video
@PrehistoricMeatEater
@PrehistoricMeatEater 3 ай бұрын
I really want to share this, but the title would bring a bit of negativity down on my head en masse. The content is fantastic. The PRC is not developed. Only on the surface. I've lived there.
@GL-iv4rw
@GL-iv4rw 3 ай бұрын
No such thing as "developed" that is a fake status to make western countries look good. There is really only developing and de-developing, and China have always stressed the former.
@GL-iv4rw
@GL-iv4rw 3 ай бұрын
No such thing as "developed" that status is not real and only to make western countries look good. There is really only developing and de-developing, and China have always stressed the former.
@GL-iv4rw
@GL-iv4rw 3 ай бұрын
No such thing as "developed" that is only a status to make western countries look good. There is really only developing and de-developing, and China have always stressed the former.
@PrehistoricMeatEater
@PrehistoricMeatEater 3 ай бұрын
Tofu construction and actual construction is a clear example if the overall BS factor in PRC 'development '. The PRC even requires JICA and Peace Corps volunteers in its rural risk areas. Yet they spend money on space tech .
@GL-iv4rw
@GL-iv4rw 3 ай бұрын
Unregulatory unsanctioned construction projects make up less than five percent of the actual construction out there, everyone can use abit more space tech which is only .06% annual budget.
@chronos2893
@chronos2893 4 ай бұрын
A very well written piece. Great work.
@overlordartorius6688
@overlordartorius6688 3 ай бұрын
Has thinking this about online communities like those in Japan, it often leads down a rabbit hole where discussions end up either veering towards Nazi ideologies or defending Imperial Japan.
@otaviodelucca3573
@otaviodelucca3573 3 ай бұрын
Soft power depends on hard power and depends on having the money to spread the culture, otherwise it won't spread as much as it has the capacity You either had a hard power past history, or you have a hard power backing you Don't you think Korea or Japan have a huge soft power "naturally". They have huge sponsors behind, and big reasons why these sponsors want those particular cultures to spread. We must question what we see, otherwise we will accept the things that are shown to us as "natural", and in the sphere of industrial culture it is always planned and chosen for a particular reason that serves the money and the political aspirations of those thay pay for it
@otaviodelucca3573
@otaviodelucca3573 3 ай бұрын
If soft power didn't depend on hard power, than many large countries with beautiful cultures, old history, and weak hard power would be known as a beacons of culture The majority of those culture are unknown, because they don't have the hard power to impose the culture, nor the money the foster it And usually, for big countries, money and hard power come together. Because hard power is there to protect the money needed to sponsor the culture
@RyuNoZero
@RyuNoZero 2 ай бұрын
funnily, everyone thinks the Fortune Cookie is chinese. but in reality it's japanese^^
@RaiJolt2
@RaiJolt2 19 күн бұрын
Wasn’t it created in San Francisco?
@heavenbright2342
@heavenbright2342 3 ай бұрын
Good video, but I cannot help but feel like only 50% is to blame the CCP, the other 50% is audience choosing to be ignorant.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I mean, some of it, but a lot of it really does come down to the distribution of products in the west. It's super easy to find Japanese and South Korean media, they appear in all sorts of places, but finding good english dubs, subs, or translations for Chinese stuff is a lot harder.
@Nittle69420
@Nittle69420 3 ай бұрын
How do you make this and at the same time an undertale song ranking
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I am interested in both
@user-jk9mp7ug3x
@user-jk9mp7ug3x 19 күн бұрын
怎么说呢?这个视频真的绝,让我很好的反思且了解了一下为什么外国人对我们的文化这么的误解甚至厌恶,即使我觉得很多元且大而广,也有可能是因为我在四川。自己没有好好宣传就别对他人的无知抱有偏见,我还是憎恶大英博物馆窃取我们圆明园的文物,但我的确看到了反贼们说的“我们的文物在那里得到了更好地宣传推广。”无奈呀,但也没办法,希望黑神话:悟空能火,并把西游记好好的做出来。 What should I say? This video is truly a masterpiece, made me understood and actually thought about why do foreigners have so much misunderstanding and even hatred over our culture, which I actually think are very diverse, big and wide, or maybe I just live in, Si Chuan(四川). If you didn’t advertise well enough then don’t despise others ignorant, I still hate the British museum because they stole our cultural artifacts from “old summer place?”(圆明园!Yuan Ming Yuan! Stupid garbage name). But now I do see the “our artifacts are shown to the world better there” that the radical anti-CCP people say. Very hopeless, but there is nothing I can do, just hope that black myth : Wu Kong can go viral, and make good work out of the journey to the west.
@edelgard.hresvelg
@edelgard.hresvelg 2 ай бұрын
At 14:37, you said that the Republic of China signed a peace treaty with Mao because they had a common enemy. However, this not exactly the case. Chiang's strategy was to defeat the Communists first and then fight the Japanese, because the Japanese forces were too strong to take head on and China needed time to build itself up with foreign support before fighting the Japanese. The Xi'an Incident in 1936 is one of the most pivotal points in Mao's rise to power. The Republic of China was forced into an alliance with Mao and the Communists after the top two generals of the Republic of China conspired with the Communists and captured Chiang. With this new alliance, the Communists hid away in Yan'an while the Republic of China army was suffering heavy casualties against the Japanese forces. After World War 2 ended, the Chinese army was left decimated while the Communist army was building up in hiding during the war against the Japanese. With increased political influence and military power, Mao usurped the Mainland from the Republic of China. This video is overall a really well done and accurate presentation of the negative effects of the CCP on Chinese cultural globalisation with historical context. Also, do you have any socials?
@kevinthehouse2445
@kevinthehouse2445 3 ай бұрын
100% agreed. I found my love for Chinese culture thru Japan first and then Taiwan which is a country that doesn't want to be associated with China. 😵‍💫 in a parallel universe China is the leader of the free world. ❤️
@Rotellini-9809
@Rotellini-9809 3 ай бұрын
fantastic video, best speculation about china i have evere seen.
@alanfriesen9837
@alanfriesen9837 3 ай бұрын
One thing that you really need to acknowledge is that things that come from Hong Kong are Chinese. In fact, China uses Hong Kong to promote Chinese culture abroad because it can get around some of its own restrictions that way, and it has done so, going back even before the handover in 1997.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Oh for sure! It's been the only real way for cultural products to get out of China for ages now.
@ZethTheGoat666
@ZethTheGoat666 2 ай бұрын
I have the same sentiment with north korea... So much culture lost through the authoritative regime
@matarratas7206
@matarratas7206 Ай бұрын
Hello, one problem I have noticed in your video is that you didn't express the authoritarinism of Chang kai seik. Because he put taiwan in martial law until his death (more or less). So maybe if chank kai seik was in power it could have been similar to other autoritarian capitalist nations. Moreover Sun yat sen, the founder of the ROC was for the integration of the CCP in the koumintang umbrella. In conclusion, it is a very good video, but some historical takes are a little bit bad. Thank you :)
@ProjectMirai64
@ProjectMirai64 Ай бұрын
Nice!
@Anglebropez
@Anglebropez Ай бұрын
Incredibly westoid video holy moly
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 Ай бұрын
What's wrong with it?
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 3 ай бұрын
I kinda disagree.Here is the analogy. “Japanese” stuff is really Chinese, in the same way lots of “English” is really from Rome. The “Latin” alphabet English uses is from Rome, and 50%-70% of English words come directly from Latin or indirectly through a Romance language like French which evolved from Latin. But so what? English is not “stealing” or hiding the heritage of Rome at all.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I understand, but this isn't a perfect analogy. What's going on right now would be like if Rome still existed, but they couldn't produce any media for the outside world.
@NO1xANIMExFAN
@NO1xANIMExFAN 3 ай бұрын
nobody is saying they're "stealing" their heritage. as he said in the video, this is due to no fault of the people in japan. its just that most westerners don't know that so many things they think are exclusively japanese are actually of chinese origin
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 3 ай бұрын
@@NO1xANIMExFAN similarly the vast majority of people don’t known how much English or western culture we owe to Rome. It’s like that recent fad where people are shocked that people think about Rome so often. Actually considering the amount of culture left to us by Rome you would expect to think about Rome everyday. It’s actually the people who say they never think about Rome are very ignorant
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I mean... yeah? But Italy has free speech, and there's plenty of easily accessible info and media in the west about the Roman Empire. Also, the Roman Empire doesn't exist anymore
@halleyconjecture
@halleyconjecture 3 ай бұрын
thats not a good analogy, roman empire doesnt exist anymore and latin is a dead language. so its understandable that people dont rlly think about rome despite its massive influences, people think rome as an ancient civilization. meanwhile china is still a major civilization to this day yet people(not just westerners) kinda forget how big their influences to the asian culture because of the communist party
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
中国没有lunar new year. 农历新年是lunisolar new year. lunar new year是阿拉伯人过的
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
对不起,我说得错。我说得是关于春节。
@yifanruan192
@yifanruan192 3 ай бұрын
As a Chinese, I am happy that you appreciate the grandness of Chinese history. I share your sadness that China's culture is so isolated from the West as an American citizen and someone who primarily engages with Western media. I must say, though, that your understanding of the PRC is heavily biased which is not your fault. I also get the impression you haven't actually properly visited. My government spent 1.5 billion dollars over 3 years to fund media that covers the CPC negatively. I will raise some points that you will instinctively recoil from. Keep in mind that I was raised in an American education system and went to an American university. I have been exposed to all the media you have on China from the West. I used to share your views in this video almost exactly. I also have family in China and have lived there for 7 years. I hope that if you do profess to love China, that you'll be open minded in trying to understand what it is today - it's a difficult learning journey. For instance, you probably don't know that minorities in China receive preferential treatment. Mao notably made great strides in minority and womens rights, as well as literacy rates and workers rights. They were exempt from the one-child policy and receive benefits when applying to college and jobs. There is a small faction of Han Chinese that harbor resentment towards this. The Chinese government has raised the standards of living of the population many times over, with orders of magnitude of difference over the past 2 generations in productivity and income. The government is quite popular among Chinese people. As such, your attitude towards the Chinese government is a colonial one since you assert that your opinion on it is more important the Chinese people's opinions on it. Again, I don't blame you - this is something that even I had to unlearn. You must also understand that South Korea and Japan were essentially vassal states of the USA upon their creation. You mention correctly that China was the regional superpower in history. This changed with the industrial revolution as you mentioned also. At the highest level, what we see now is China losing its regional influence and sovereignty to the West, and a gradual reclamation. When looking at it from this perspective, it is pretty clear why China is not like Japan or South Korea or Taiwan who are friendly with the West. To fully understand modern China, you must understand the Washington consensus, and the relationship between capitalism, neoliberalism, and colonialism in the Global South. Also - do visit. It's genuinely the safest country I've ever lived in, and the people are friendly. Here's to more mutual understanding and learning between cultures in the future.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I've already visited China twice, for well over a month total, and stayed with a Chinese host family for a week. I've seen Xi'an, Shanghai, Beijing, and a bunch of other cities. And what was notable about those trips was how I had to install a VPN to access any non-chinese media, and how doing so is illegal in the PROC. It isn't just an issue of other countries talking bad about China... it's a problem with the government itself.
@yifanruan192
@yifanruan192 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 Perhaps next time you visit, you can ask people what they think of Mao, or the current government, or of socialism. Again, I emphasize that your judgement on the government is a colonial one. The Chinese do not think about American domestic policy or use differences between the systems to claim some moral superiority. We are conditioned in the West to believe in American exceptionalism which is in my opinion, a vestige of white supremacy. Perhaps ask to understand why people in China support their government. Regarding the censorship issue, I refer to my original comment - learn about the Washington consensus and the CIA's role in this. Daniel Dumbrill, an independent journalist, has some more China-specific content on the subject.
@DubboU
@DubboU 3 ай бұрын
As a Chinese who lives in Canada, who also was primarily engaged in Western media, I too, share the same sentiment as you do. Many people talk about China how they are this and that, but what they completely failed to do, is to learn HOW China and the Chinese people exercises their life philosophies in their daily and long term lives. One must see it through the eyes of China and local Chinese to understand why they choose to do things a certain way. Most people uses their Western capitalistic values to evaluate the Chinese economy and lifestyle, and that is why they will never understand it.
@yifanruan192
@yifanruan192 3 ай бұрын
@@DubboU Yes - I can only hope that China will develop and maintain its currently low levels of capital influence in government and that, in time, we can engage in more meaningful discussion about China in the mainstream here in the West. Aside from culture, there is much about China's economy that is important to learn from.
@DubboU
@DubboU 3 ай бұрын
@@yifanruan192 wholeheartedly agreed with you. Reading the OP's reply to you and to others in the comments, he pretty much confirmed that he is indeed judging with his Western views. Somehow he thinks that visiting China a couple times for over a month makes him more credible, and implying that he knows what's going on just from doing so. Then he talks about the use of a VPN, without fully understanding why China has a "wall", nor the meaning behind it. Which by the way, yes it is said to be illegal, but not a single person has been prosecuted for using a VPN in China, and there's 1.4 billion people. Where/what is the problem then? There really isn't one if we actually understand the history and reason for China's cyber wall.
@NO1xANIMExFAN
@NO1xANIMExFAN 3 ай бұрын
as much as i enjoyed the video, i do think you have an incredibly incorrect take that the chinese government repressing free speech is the reason why chinese culture isn't well known. people knowing and enjoying chinese culture is a form of soft power that the government would be more than happy to endorse. the reason why we hear so little about china in the west is because our news and sources of information in the west always have a political agenda attached to it, and therefore paints anything chinese as evil. as such, there is no incentive for any organic exposure to chinese culture through a westerner's daily life. even from your own use of langauge, it seems clear to me that you've never been to china, and have been influenced by anti-chinese propaganda that you have seen in the media. i highly suggest you visit china for yourself and see if life there is truly as repressive as they say. back to my main point, i think the biggest issue is that there are political reasons why westerners want to distance themselves from anything chinese due to what they are fed in the news, and its really is just an extension of the red scare. in addition, the political rivalry of western nations makes sure that huge chinese movies and entertainment doesn't enter the country, due to protectionism. this is true for entertainment, but also cellular technology, automobiles, among other things. there is a reason why while BYD is the biggest EV seller on the planet, the US refuses to let them enter the US market. it's because they are chinese. and according to western governments, anything chinese is evil. all other reasons you mentioned for chinese culture being not popular are only secondary, if not tertiary to the big elephant in the room. (such as not as many translators translating content for a western audience. which explains why you knew nothing about zhang miaoge even though there is SO MUCH information about her written in chinese on the internet)
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
The CCP wants to promote soft power, that's true, but it's not been very effective BECAUSE of government censorship. I have been to China on two separate occasions, each time for several weeks, and stayed with a Chinese host family for a week. Yes, a lot of western media is anti-chinese government, but 1. if the CCP was less horrible, they wouldn't be as against it, and 2. That likely wouldn't even effect the transfer of media much. Like, it wasn't the USA that banned Twitter in China, that was the CCP. Also about this "anything Chinese is evil" thing... that only applies to things from modern China. While I also think it's excessive, there's nowhere near as big of a negative reaction to say, movies from Hong Kong, or Chinese stuff from before 1950.
@badheartedb0ytrap
@badheartedb0ytrap 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 Uh...western media was cool with China until it started becoming more powerful. They don't actually care what the government does, look at what Israel is doing and everyone's still crine about Hamas. You visited China twice and you think you understand Chinese culture or China? You won't even listen to Chinese critiques, you're the one with the censorship mind lol
@alanfriesen9837
@alanfriesen9837 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 And that's because of anti-Chinese politics. I'm truly surprised that you've been to China and walked away with this perspective. I haven't been to Xi'an (I do hope to go at some point), but I've been to Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Beijing, Chengdu and Deyang (a much smaller town). It's frustrating being unable to use anything related to Google because of Google's dominance in western computer function, but they didn't want to follow the rules, and in China corporations answer to the government, not the other way around. I hope that if you go again that the challenges of transitioning from western platforms to Chinese platforms doesn't irritate you so much that you again fail to see the satisfaction that the Chinese have in their lives, and even the freedom that they exercise regularly. It's a vibrant society with a promising future. If you tap into that feeling, it's truly exhilarating.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
Corporations answering to the government isn't any better, especially with an undemocratic government. All that does is concentrate more and more power into a small handful of people.
@alanfriesen9837
@alanfriesen9837 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 It's a hell of a lot better to have corps answering to gov. Governments have problems, but the purpose of government is to take care of the people. The purpose of a corporation is to produce a profit. Perhaps a very good corporation is a better master than a very bad government, but I'm not so sure about that even.
@user-hb2eq1sk7n
@user-hb2eq1sk7n 3 ай бұрын
they dont allow migrants, but thought many don't want to go there due to CCP? I agree and enjoy mostly with your video, but that I don't get.
@austinwaldrop2849
@austinwaldrop2849 3 ай бұрын
Hey man, first time seeing your content. You really made an emotional rollercoaster here. As someone who has studied both Japanese and Chinese since I was 12 years old, the video started off a little..... Racist or xenophobic. I dont know the word. Anti-Chinese? It started off feeling weird but the ending was amazing. I would love to see a world where Chinese culture and media could be shared worldwide without out it being a military related thing. I think you have a nice way of making videos and I am sorry some of the comments are so negative (maybe they didn't finish the video)
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
How was it anti-chinese? Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just wondering what you thought. I figured it was fine since my criticisms in the first half were just about the government, never the people.
@georgeinjapan6583
@georgeinjapan6583 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 The CCP wants to have you believe that uniquely they care for their people of any country in the world and any insult to the CCP is an insult to every man,woman and child in China !
@alfaeco15
@alfaeco15 3 ай бұрын
Not peoples, not rexpublica, not chinese.
@jayasuriyas2604
@jayasuriyas2604 4 ай бұрын
You love East Asian countries, but totally dismiss Indian art because it's "poor".
@jayasuriyas2604
@jayasuriyas2604 4 ай бұрын
There are a fuck ton of beautiful and amazing Indian movies and music but people never explore it and make a surface level meme and dismiss the entire culture in general. Reminds me of the place, place Japan meme.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 4 ай бұрын
What?! The whole point of that section of the video is that I LOVE Indian movies, and that I think it's a shame that we don't see more of them. My point was that although the Indian Government is clearly allowing more passion and heart to go into their movies, the country is generally poorer, meaning we unfortunately can't get as many of them.
@una3450
@una3450 3 ай бұрын
2 points tangential to your video: Isn't it funny how some percieve Japan as bearing the fruits of isolationism despite these cultural imports? It's disheartening to see some in Japan refusing to acknowledge the atrocities in WW2. Some of which were arguably worse than their western counterparts
@iamLI3
@iamLI3 2 ай бұрын
the chinies don't get to have monkia? so that means they're left with just noithng , how sad :c .....
@chankane
@chankane 3 ай бұрын
More research on China's authoritarianism is needed.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
How am I wrong?
@chankane
@chankane 3 ай бұрын
You are not wrong. Great video in fact. Your time and research into it is top notch. Just wanted to know if you can do more research on China's authoritarianism. I'm wondering how true this narrative is. @@thehayze259
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
Well, I don't think it's a problem in the first place, when you consider China was culturally dominated by India (Bharat) for over a millenia. Even the present culture is hands down from either India or Russia (communism/socialism). China always had a borrowed culture. I wonder if the creator has a problem with that as well.
@yifanruan192
@yifanruan192 3 ай бұрын
This is the dumbest take I've ever heard 😅 While it's true that Buddhism originated in India and was highly influential in China, Confucianism and Taoism certainly originated in China and had huge influence on the rest of East Asia. China was more efficiently centralized than India ever was. Unsure how India "culturally dominated" China in any sense. China's current economic model has elements from both the Soviets and the Americans, and some of its own innovations.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
I explicitly state less than a minute into the video that every country on Earth borrows culture. The difference is that China doesn't have free speech. Also, China was absolutely not dominated by Indian culture. Sure, they adopted Buddhism and Pagodas, but that's about it. Socialism originated from the UK, where Karl Marx lived, and isn't a culture, it's a political system.
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
@@yifanruan192 This is the dumbest reply I've ever heard, certainly when the crux of my comment doesn't rely on the India dominated China Culturally. It was just a play of words. Certainly says that you are yet to mature. Read the comment again before answering. The creator is claiming everything as a 'Chinese' origin. Well, the commentators/replies being chinese doesn't provide a valuable answer. Chinese claims of tibet, taiwan, Russian territory, Indian territory, and territory of 9 other countries at least. What do you want. Next Chinese citizen will claim the Olympics was a Chinese startup? I can only see that happening in the future. And people like you and creator, who doesn't happen to dig deeper on shared culture and values throughout the various parts of Earth, can't acknowledge the simple fact that nothing is Chinese or Japanese to start with. The creator should have mentioned what the japanese wore before 'Chinese kimono' came there. I mean, surely they weren't naked. Given Chinese is a closed territory. I guess, the history is also closed and dedicated to accept the Chinese hegemony.
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
@thehayze259 please relearn the term called dominate. The matter that you adopted it already means you accepted it. Also, the main crux of my comment doesn't lie on India dominating China culturally. I mean, I don't need proof when one of your ministers accepted the fact that on air. The main crux of my comment is the 'chinese' culture. Japan has borrowed everything that is Japanese today. Similarly Chinese also borrowed everything which is Chinese today. A culture adopts the better practice of another culture, that is how a culture evolves. Is this video to sate the Chinese Ego? Or is it to sate your own ego? Problem with Japanese culture and it's not Japanese fault. I wonder if any culture can blame other culture in any given time at that. I guess the Chinese, who wants to claim everything as their's can.
@arka6846
@arka6846 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately one of my comments got deleted. well, facts do get deleted easily, since it's hard to digest it.
@Zeyede_Siyum
@Zeyede_Siyum 3 ай бұрын
ጪናውያን✊⚒️🇨🇳
@thatoneidiotcurrentlyliving
@thatoneidiotcurrentlyliving 4 ай бұрын
that title was crazy lmao
@ishangadekar798
@ishangadekar798 3 ай бұрын
80% of Indian population lives in poverty ?! India is the fifth biggest economy in the world. Who are you kidding ?
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
It also has 1.4 billion people. It's called GDP per capita lol, here's the wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
还有中华文化的特质重来就是不需要去博取他人的承认, 在历史上也重来没有将中华文化强加给汉民族以外的种族, 而都是汉民族以外的种族或多或少地吸收中华文化(同时汉民族也擅长将其他民族文化融入中华文化). 不知道你在这边惋惜个什么劲. 中国人重来不觉得要让你们喜欢上中华文化有多么重要, 你们喜欢就喜欢, 不喜欢我们也无所谓, 因为这个文化辐射的人口体量已经足够大, 我们不认为多么需要推销他来让他彰显自己的存在感. 西方人看起来很爱好东方文化, 实际上只是腻烦自己熟悉的文化, 猎奇罢了. 还有台湾现在居住的大部分人已经不认为自己是中华文化的继承人了, 我们也不屑于他们继承中华文化, 我们只需要土地回归罢了. 如果以色列接受台湾人民, 我们很高兴他们去加沙建立福摩萨国, 把台湾土地归还中国.
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
阿,所以你只是一个中国民族主义者。对不起,台湾有自己的政府,你们不能入侵他们。
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 中国人从几千年前就是民族主义者, 和以色列人一样. 民族主义者怎么了么? 戳痛你什么痛处了? 中国人如果不是民族主义者, 日本人早就征服全中国了. 题外话, 韩国人, 日本人多数也是民族主义者. 印度人多数也是民族主义者. MAGA红脖子也是民族主义者. 你是不是觉得你被民族主义者世界包围了呢小宝贝儿
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 达赖喇嘛也是民族主义者. 甘地也是民族主义者. 窃格瓦拉也是民族主义者. 你为什么喜欢用民族主义者来攻击别人? 显得你学识高深么
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 中国和台湾是走两岸关系条例的, 台湾的宪法是包含中国大陆作为领土范围的, 中国和台湾的战争不是入侵关系而是内战. 中国和台湾到现在还处于内战状态没有签署停战协议. 所以说你是门外汉一点儿也不假. 多读书
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
因为印度的政府不是种族灭绝的。和我也不喜欢他们
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
欢迎大家看我的留言, 可以看出这个作者有多么的幼稚和无知
@thehayze259
@thehayze259 3 ай бұрын
哈哈,这个中国民族主义者写了四页,他认为我不懂中国文化。This actual chinese nationalist wrote a four page word document assuming that I didn't know my stuff
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 你确实不懂, 你懂的只是你自认为你懂的而已
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 你的"ha ha"是真的觉得发自内心的开心, 还是嘲笑, 然后用键盘打出来的? 我看到的只是你的心虚罢了
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 还有为什么要强调"民族主义者"呢? 中国的民族主义就是中华民族(56个民族)主义, 在我看来比起大韩民族主义, 大和民族主义(大和民族主义甚至排斥琉球民族和阿依努民族),可是高明多了
@AmuroAznable
@AmuroAznable 3 ай бұрын
@@thehayze259 说到琉球, 你可能不知道日本只是在二战后"代为管理"冲绳的吧? 日本对冲绳可没有主权哦
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