My Response to Metatron about Black Egyptians

[@LosGxd]

I believe debating/public discourse with these ppl and embarrassing them on a public scale would be beneficial for the education of our people, I included… Somebody tell SA to set it up!!

[@Infinite_Guide04]

He’d never do that, metatron wouldn’t risk that.

[@JayRBG.]

@@Infinite_Guide04 yeah I doubt it, I got the house on Smash though 🏹

[@joanstone6740]

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[@JackieAnderson17]

@@Infinite_Guide04 you want it? tweet it at him; enough people tweet and you will get your response

[@JackieAnderson17]

why don’t you tweet at him, set the stage to setting it up. I'm sure it will be embarrassing.

[@UKTunedIn]

Would love to see a formal debate between you guys. If it is kept civil it would be beneficial 💯🤙🏾

[@keitht24]

No it wouldn't. Metatron wouldn't debate, because he wouldn't be able to control the presentation. Both his videos on "were ancient Egyptians black" very strategically avoid any sense of credibility. He cherry picked wall paintings & sculptures.

[@CarloNassar]

I agree with it being beneficial. At least we'd see fewer responses made back and forth, which would mean more time to spend on videos with actual passion.

[@carlcarter_09]

That's what happens w/ fast talking & slow thinkinging....

[@MyAb111]

Thank you for exposing these clowns.

[@leroygreen6310]

Thank you my G. Dope video and shout out the whole Hieroglyphics crew ✌🏽

[@reggmabry2692]

Madjai Archers Up - Defenders of Africa!!!!!

[@jamescorvus6709]

Why don't we defend were Our Ancestors come from? When was Africa ever one culture throughout the entire continent? This is pseudo.

[@swimmingmantis22]

Thank you so much for responding to this man.

[@kylebourne6839]

Metatron is a pseudo-intellectual bullshit artist...and he only does this stuff for his fanboys. He's being exposed by a few other KZbin creators who are aware of his tricknology.

[@bayyinahzhaxx7620]

Thank you for providing sources

[@mr.mensch1557]

Hereditarily, she was Macedonian Greek & Iranian (Sogdian/Persian). Sources: "Cleopatra: a Biography", by Duane W. Roller "Cleopatra", by Michael Grant "Hellenistic Queens: a Study of Woman-Power in Macedonia, Seleucid Syria, and Ptolemaic Egypt.", by Grace H Macurdy

[@daviddash9947]

She is not Egyptian.She must be call a non Egyptian ruler of Egypt. Why are Greeks and others called Egyptian. The Potolemy kingdom was Greek, why is it called Egyptian. This is just to make Egypt some white invented land When she is described she is everything but Egyptian. The person you described should never be called an Egyptian . She is a daughter of successive colonial rulers. The lady has nothing to do with native Egyptians Egyptians should never be represented looking like her. From the biography you presented she has no Egyptian blood period. I am not adding anything it is what you have written. She represents all the non Egyptians living in Egypt. Thanks and please tell all those so call Egyptians calling her Egyptian to cut out the nonsense. If people call her Egyptian she should look like a native Egyptian. So if Egyptians were black she must be black. She is definitely Not Egyptian. So called Nubians living in Egypt for thousands of years are not Egyptian but the daughter of everything not Egyptian is called Egyptian. Nothing but racist bigotry.

[@EPUEPUEPUEPU]

first time seeing your channel , very interesting, I also did.a response video.. I think the Black land is one of the weakest arguments from Afrocentrics, especially since they depicted the nubians black and especially since the eastern lands were called the Red Land. There are some arguments that should not even be presented.

[@smashrockwell]

I can tell you are hear to learn. Great! Watch my next live

[@alextsomambet1311]

There is something you should know. The first people who got intersted about ancient egyptian skin color were white people, not black people, and it was during slavery and colonization. The first people saying egypt was black were white people. Why are you call black who say the same afrocentrics?

[@dru397]

@@EPUEPUEPUEPU 🤣🤣🤣 you’re all over the place hating on black ancient Egypt. It’s not up for debate that ancient Egypt was black. Give it up. This Black Land take is not the weakest point because as you can see, Metatron just got his azzzz handed to him. Please stop the hate.

[@dru397]

@@smashrockwell that guy above is a Eurocentrist. He makes racist videos against black people.

[@TONEYSTARR9]

With these people lying and deceiving and stealing from you...Should let you know how special you are And how Afraid of you waking up they are

[@Oppolo77]

Lol, Egyptians never looked like west africans or bantus from sub-saharan Africa which includes African Americans since they are related to west africans. Sl you were never Ancient Egyptians. 😂

[@TONEYSTARR9]

@Hotepscrying Nobody said West africans were modern egyptians🤣.... Don't nobody want that colonizer word egyptian... That's a greek term i'm talking ABOUT KEMET!!!! Do your research on the red crown pre state formation

[@Oppolo77]

@@TONEYSTARR9 Kemet/Egypt are not related to sub-saharan Africans 🤣

[@TONEYSTARR9]

@Hotepscrying There you go again using that Greek word egypt like I told you before You need to do deeper research... Start with researching the red crown.... Bro, all your people ever did was colonize lie and steal distorted truth. Mis information, that's your history... There's plenty of evidence of there's. There's evidence of people putting wigs on mummy's. I mean all kinds of scientifically disingenuous. You just don't want to know the truth. You just another misled Hawass agent 🤣🤣

[@TONEYSTARR9]

@Hotepscrying You can't use greek mythology as genealogy🤣🤣🤣 That's called trick knowledge naming places in egypt, based on greek mythology that's cheating...Aegyptus is a clue... Do a deeper dive i'm not going to do it for you

[@supercigar123]

KILLING IT AGAIN I SEE

[@nalinux]

what is the problem with your keyboard ?

[@walker1686]

No some of them were olive skinned.. the black and brown ones.. ain’t nobody green skinned

[@walker1686]

This is actually funny. Because the Egyptians themselves tell us where the language comes from.. which is the Great Lake region aka Africa!!

[@soundwavechmist]

Master class cas

[@soundwavechmist]

​@dominionphilosophy3698stop it

[@abelsenkge3883]

This response is eve better than Kualimika's response

[@Prestrev]

Good stuff Smash!

[@patrickstjean7646]

I always found this debate to be so interesting. My belief is that the first Egyptians were racially homogenous (two ethnicities, but both of them black skinned) until at least the bronze age collapse from 1200 and 1150 BC. The Egyptian accounts of the sea peoples are pretty detailed. They name and describe many different nations in some detail, never suggesting any cultural or ethnic ties to any of them. The fact that Egypt alone was able to defend her borders through the entire scourge of the maurauding sea people would suggest that Egypt's borders were tight despite being the geographical and economic hub of the bronze age economy. That probably didnt change much until the conquest of Alexander the great in 332 BC

[@sokopic]

oldest fossils of our dark friends are not even 7 000 years old

[@jam-fam]

Kemet fell culturally after Ashurbanipal's conquest.

[@sokopic]

@@jam-fam i would say it did fall ater they did deice to have "dark" women is something that will not demage the country around the 18th dynasty

[@jam-fam]

Oh lord, here we go again. You have an internet connection, do your own research. This is not preschool, no one is going to spoon feed you with information that is accessible to just about anyone. We know that the flora and fauna depicted in the hieroglyphs are indiginous to Southern Africa, not forgetting the Face Hieroglyph itself. Use your deduction skills, represent your school and education system, stop embarrasing yourself on the internet. Talk about being slow and proud 🤦‍♂@@sokopic

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

Egypt was aready multi-racial around 17000 BC, much BEFORE your ronze Age collapse. And all credible scholars will tell you that Egypt was NOT homogenous.

[@chiccngeorge3058]

How were a majority of Egyptians olive if black people weren’t already there originally? You gotta think cleopatra is closer to us on the time line than she is to the ancient Egyptians that built the pyramids so the other side to argue would be that for a group of people to become lighter in skin tone they had to originate from darker people which is just science. Which the second half to the argument would be how do a dark skin people settle a different part of what was then rainforest and become lighter in skin tone when we know through science the sun wouldn’t let that happen.

[@marxmarxi]

asselar man ...oldest of your people ..is 7 000 years old

[@AfricanMaverick]

@@marxmarxi Africans don't have one specific Morphology. Africans go back 300k while your people only 6k.

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

Egypt is country that was reated with Narmer's unification around 3000 years BC. By this point African and Asiatic popualtions already mixed and diversify. Yes, first NORTH AFRICANS were Black, but it was prehistory. It wasn't Egypt back then. Egypt was alwyas multi-racial nation when Two Lnads were unified. 😘

[@yangasidziya3245]

That makes no logical sense​@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

[@organix2158]

I've been doing the same thing since the 90's. I normally ask "them" how old are the pyramids and they'll get excited and go on and on about how mainstream media is wrong and that the pyramids are over 10K yrs old. Trap set.....after that I'll show them studies that show that the genetic mutation that occurred that lightened our ancestors skins occurred in Europe between 6-8K yrs ago and ask so how could the actual pyramid builders be YT people 🤔.......at that point they'll start talking about aliens or some ish lol

[@andrewb9409]

genetic mutation? lol you don’t know about the ice age?

[@andrewb9409]

“ They found that the sample set showed a strong connection with a cluster of ancient non-African populations based east of the Mediterranean Sea” Show me your research.

[@nalinux]

Nobody says the egyptians were europeans.. I don't understand.

[@marxmarxi]

"lightened our ancestors skins occurred in Europe between 6-8K yrs ago " actually among natufians 12 000 years ago ..Europeans like "lola" from danemark did not have them until 5 000 years ago and that they have been "lightened" before us does not make neolithic farmers(old egyptians) to our people..lola is one of my people regardless of her color

[@thevisitor1012]

@@nalinux Lol, many still do. You'd honestly be surprised.

[@kindnessfirst9670]

I don't understand what people are arguing about. What does "black" mean to the people using it now and what did it mean then? The time period being discussed is many centuries prior to the creation of the black and white races by Europeans in the 15th century. And when it comes to the debunked idea of physical so called "races" nothing ever makes sense- it can't.

[@CrowdPleeza]

Was the North African region ever majority black? If so what happened to this majority black population? Egypt seems to have a similar population as other North African countries. Non black people from the south on up. Black people largely in the south. Hasn't this always been the population pattern of most North African countries?

[@eastsidemuu]

I would agree but then you would have to ask yourself about America, Australia, South Africa, Mexico, New Zealand, Argentina, exc..

[@CrowdPleeza]

@@eastsidemuu Which Egyptologist and historians have highlighted a population change happening in North Africa that was similar to those countries?

[@charlesspeaksthetruth4334]

@@CrowdPleeza Africa is the birthplace of homo sapiens and we went to every corner of the continent, which includes North Africa.

[@charlesspeaksthetruth4334]

@@CrowdPleeza Look up Nazlet Khater 2 man. The oldest remains found in Egypt and he was a bIack African man.

[@CrowdPleeza]

@@charlesspeaksthetruth4334 Ok what happened to the black populations across North Africa? Black people aren't the majority in Algeria or Morocco. Why not?

[@jam-fam]

These guys can't even explain why Hieroglyphs are based on Southern African flora and fauna, not forgetting the face hieroglyph.

[@matamba6774]

People like metatron need to open their eyes and leave disney world alone.

[@baibureh3268]

@@matamba6774 he's blatantly a racist period that's what drives his agenda

[@Grant918Tulsa]

He doesn't think Black people couldn't survive in the climate Is the hottest part of the Mediterranean coastline

[@brentwaid4397]

I agree with points from you and some points from metatron enjoyed the video. Only thing I disagree with from you is the 3000year timeline you gave at the end. I believe pre dynastic Egypt and the before Kemet to be much much much older. I don’t follow the timeline laid down by mainstream scholars or the Bible. Check out Matt lecroix and billy Carson very good stuff to add that I can’t.

[@malcolmhill9320]

Bill Carson is a fraud. If you believe anything that man says then you may want to look into Sara seti

[@yangasidziya3245]

Damn how did I miss this😮

[@daoriginalpeople128]

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[@AKC357]

Should you EVER CHOSE TO DEBATE ME, I WOULD EXPOSE what you claim to have as “evidence”😡👍🏾❗️

[@jayp3687]

The beja people r the indigenous people of those areas, the multiracial society became a part of the region once the ancient civilization fell.

[@lwandisovelem682]

Just Subcribed

[@MrMetro-mt5qv]

That Christopher Ehret clip was a huge blow to Megatron’s argument.

[@tylermyers5062]

Robots in disguise!

[@nalinux]

Ehret speaks mainly about culture, not about skin color.

[@MrMetro-mt5qv]

@@tylermyers5062 🤖

[@MrMetro-mt5qv]

@@nalinux Yes.

[@ilayohana3150]

all the metatron bots must be coping so hard over this video right now

[@s.w1633]

👍👍

[@johnnywoods5549]

It would be easy to debunk your video but commenters don't have to since Metatron did thee most thorough debunking of you and your friends I have ever seen.

[@smashrockwell]

There is no way metatron could be debunked me my video was recorded after his. Is shows just how shallow you eurocentric Egypt supporters are. You will say anything to appear right.

[@johnnywoods5549]

@@smashrockwell First of all learn proper grammar, in case you didn't know I'm referring to his new video debunking you. And that poorly written racist nonsense shows how deluded you are. I could say more but won't, your reply or rather how it's written says everything.

[@johnnywoods5549]

@@smashrockwell Really? Already false flagging my reply like a child hiding your soiled sheets.

[@jamescummings6703]

What video did you watch? Kuelimika, and Mr. Imotep destroyed him.

[@johnnywoods5549]

How did they destroy him when he systematically dismantled their arguments and pointed out every instance of of them misquoting, mis-contextualizing and just lying about him?

[@MrBlacc88]

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[@justchilling704]

For the Hebrews Ham is the father of what we now call Africa, and Egyptians are said to be his descendants. Fun fact. Noah didn’t curse Ham, he cursed Canaan, Ham’s son. All of these figures would have been dark skinned so it couldn’t have been a matter of skin color.

[@marxmarxi]

schasu did consider political allegiances to be same with biological ..that is simply not the case habiru of canaan have been indo europeans .. 3 000 years ago schasu came and did end them for schasu that some hittite have been allies of ethiopians and egyptians did make them the same ..hittite have been indo europeans ..nothing to do with lesser people

[@justchilling704]

@@marxmarxi I’m confused Canaanites weren’t Indo-European?

[@ilayohana3150]

canaanites were surprisingly not indo europeans in an area dominated by semites.@@justchilling704

[@lawrenceandrews4367]

@@justchilling704 they are actually. Hittie means European

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

They are all fictional characters. They didn't exist 🤦🏻‍♂

[@sunlion55]

Keep Rock em, you got it because you got soullllllll lol

[@cathyniumana2310]

Ulala so enjoyed this history lessons. Preach brother.

[@JayRBG.]

@metatron

[@Geoffzilla]

This is all speculation and wishful thinking. There's nothing solid here.

[@1956gaba]

Sounds like your wishful thinking.

[@Geoffzilla]

@@1956gaba or maybe I just study history objectively.

[@Minptahhathor]

@@Geoffzilla give up bruhhhhh

[@Geoffzilla]

@@Minptahhathor like you did?

[@MajanDyabe]

Something to think about. No matter where whites are in the world you can find varied hair and eye color.....where is that variation in the hieroglyphs? Even Greek pottery from the same time periods reflect that variation...but not Egypt....hmmm.

[@juliepageau2094]

I think this seems true. It doesn’t seems to be a lot of variations. Most people look mixed, like as if this was mostly the norm back then.

[@nalinux]

Maybe they could not do pottery with colors. But paints have colors. And egyptians are ocher.

[@therealmicmountain]

Got him!!! lol

[@C.J...]

Egypt was what ever population was there when the LION was built a.k.a. the defaced Sphinx before 12,000 bc most likely the peoples before Nubians were on scene. The Lion was found later and settled by the newer Egyptian Dynasty's who built the Pyramids.

[@adaptivelearner6162]

Aren't there way more pyramids that have been burried in the saharan desert. There is now evidence the Arabs built or laid the ground work for most of the pyramids.

[@nalinux]

There's not a single proof the Sphinx was anything else before. And no proof it was carved 12.000 years ago.

[@nalinux]

@@adaptivelearner6162 Egyptians are not arabs.

[@chumajamesnxele106]

Olives are green or black! 😂

[@nalinux]

See the spanish olives ! Green or black. And delicious with anchovy inside.

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

Oil from olives is golden brown.

[@chumajamesnxele106]

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Yeah we come in that color too...

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

@@chumajamesnxele106 So do modern Egyptians. You are now picky and try fit world according your agenda. Egypt was MULTI-racial. Among Egyptians you could (and can) find both Meditteranean people with olive skin, just like Black olive-skinned.

[@chumajamesnxele106]

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 That's not true. Race is not skin color. And y'all ain't from Allah, you are not made from clay and black mud as Quran says. Charles Darwin has accurately depicted your origins. Only beings from the Animal Kingdom possess straight hair. You received sentience from US!

[@jayeverything]

Just ask him how old his race is and ask how old kemet is. Problem solved. No need for the back and forth. 😪

[@Grant918Tulsa]

I want to apologize. I was in my feelings. Most of western Asia is a desert. You don't think so, called Subs Aaron Africans could not survive in a desert condition?

[@erikmurray3661]

Ancient Egyptians were BLACK PEOPLE BRUH.

[@nalinux]

show real proof, instead of always repeating the same thing. What ? No proof ? :)

[@Aishatu511]

​@@nalinuxI've read books about it , it's not afrocentric books but Greek and Europeans who wrote them .(I will give you scientific proof next ) Hope you can traduce Strabon:"Les Égyptiens (kemet) sont plus noirs que les hindous " ,Géography ,Tome 1 ,Chapitre 3, p 20 à 21 Constantin François Chasse bœuf conte de Volney . Tome 3 , Voyage égyptien et Syrie ,60 " C'est-à-dire que les Egyptiens étaient de vrais nègres de l'espèce de tous les naturels de l'Afrique" . p 67 "Quel sujet de médiation de penser que cette race , d'hommes noirs , aujourd'hui notre esclave est l'objet de notre mépris ,est celle-là même à qui nous devons notre arts ,nos sciences et jusqu'à l'usage de la parole . Jean François Hiérarchie Champollion Habitant de kemet . " Je ne m'attendais certainement pas en arrivant à Biban-el Molouk ,d'y trouver des sculptures qui pourraient servir de vignettes à l'histoire des habitants primitifs de l'Europe (...). Leur vue a toutefois quelque chose de flatteur et de consolant ,puisqu'elle nous fait bien apprécier le chemin que nous avons parcouru depuis." "Ce peuple infortune qui 'a rien de commun avec les arabes ni par le langage , ni pour l'apparence physique ." Livre " Égypte Ancienne " p 60 1839 Eschyle " Je distingue l'équipage avec ses membres noirs (individus noirs ) sortant des tuniques blanches . Hérodote "La peau noire et les cheveux crépus Melacroe =peau noir Oulitric=cheveux crépus Aristote "excessivement noir " agan melanes You can search by yourself, I recommend some good author: Diodore de Sicile , Hérodote, Pythagore,Thalès ,Aristote . I can tell you some scientific proof if you don't believe me 😉.

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

No, they were not. NEVER. „It foolowed that those who lived and died by Egyptian custom within Egypt were Egyptians: the most blessed people on the world. 'Egyptianess', like 'Greekness', was very much matter of culture. Colour - both skin tone and racial heritage was am irrelevance. (…) Egypt had always been open to immigrants. Lybians 🧔🏻, Nubians 👨🏿‍🦱, Asiatics 🧔🏽 and others had settled beside the Nile and there had never been any problem with individual Egyptians marrying people who looked or spoke differently. As a result, the Egyptian people showed a diverse range of racial characteristics, with redheaded, light skinned Egyptians 👨🏻‍🦰👩🏻‍🦰 living alongside curly haired darker skinned neigbours👨🏾‍🦱👩🏾‍🦱”. - Joyce Tyldesley, „Cleopatra. Last Queen of Egypt”, p. 50, Profile Books, London 2009

[@pendragonsxskywalkers9518]

@saoham659 No, they weren't. Egyptians were mixed diverse group of both African and Asitic (from NORTH) ⬆+⬆ ancestry. Theye were multi-racial and shoving them to box "Black" is disingenous and r*****st.

[@rb9882]

Personally, as a fledging Kemite: I genuinely HATE metatron & ALL like him

[@kelsyerscluster7936]

The egyprian government disagrees. It is not some subjective matter where no truth can be had. What you are claiming is not debatable. It is not even a historical debate, its a faith based claim. Kinda like flat earth or religious views, it is not worth considering. Acting like all genetic tests, all scientific research into the shape of the body, the shape of the skull, all being different for each race is clear. What is not clear is why you believe this, when no fact other than a single report of a guy being racist. Let me put it this way, if i trusted your beliefe over the same evidence i must also accept the slaves looked like apes from above looking out on a field. Its documented at least once it being said. It must be true! Its not! In no way is it a fact. Objectively there is no evidence other than a single racist eye witness account with over 500 other sources claiming its not. Its like you walked into a court room as a jurrer, threw out 500 testimonies that the accused was innocent and you took the one guy who was racist against the accused and saying "yeah, thats the view. The one that called him the n word."

[@WindwardQuietist]

The predominantly colonial Arab Egyptians like to bolster their tourism and keep their historic Islamic slaveholding pride by denigrating the indigenous Nubian population that still resides in Egypt and its contributions to history, the people who are discriminated against even today; as the Arabs wait for the oppressed people group to slowly fade away. Mary Jane Byarm a well known traveler visited the Nubian villages of Egypt earlier this year. I do not trust the Arab Islamic people regarding the history of Egypt. They often have overt biases against darker races. *_"Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed."_* Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p.375

[@Ma1q444]

Metatron really doesn’t now much.

[@realitymatters8720]

Why not rely on genetics ? This focus on language will resolve nothing ! The elites have left plenty of genetics for us to investigate, the lower classes will be harder to classify, but genetics is the only way to actually know, who was what at what time. This entire vid is an interlectuall wankoff ! Why is this of importence anyway ?

[@mour1s91]

Since when does genetics determine skin color? Are you following the discussion or just sharing your opinion? If this is of no importance to you, why are you here? 🤣

[@realitymatters8720]

@@mour1s91 Skin colour is determined by levels of melanin, melanin levels are determined by your genetic code, your genetic code is determined by your etnic background. This is not hard ! But, the determination of what etnic groups egyptians derived from, has very little to do with skin colour, dark skin can be found on several continents. So, a genetic survey of egyptians must be based on many genetic markers, and the changes over both time and space ! How can you possibly not know this ? What im baffled over is why the etnic or racial background so importent to people 2000 years later, genetis will answer these questions eventually. Brawling over the finer points of the egyptian language, is the same as claiming black americans are etnicly euopean because they speak english. Its pointless, language is at best an indication, making both of the views presented in this vid, a f......g waste of time ! How stupid are you ?🙄

[@IsraelYoungLion]

@@mour1s91these guys want us to play their games on their terms, and they see it not working anymore

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

Really

[@Kascie]

Guess who is trip traipsing all over the earth defiling people's graves so they can control the narrative about acient cultures and propagate the trope that so called Blacks contributed nothing for all of hunan history. Anything they find to the contrary they destroy or secret away in the basements of their museums and universities.

[@Maakheru07]

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