My Review of the forgotten V12 Twin Turbo Mercedes CL600 that should be on everyone's list!!

I review my 2003 Mercedes CL600 and dish out my impressions on maintenance, ownership and depreciation. Thi is the twin turbo 12 cylinder car that has been overlooked too long!! We go for a drive and I make the case for the luxury GT cruiser to gain more prominence in the car world!! Gotta love this engine!!

[@-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-]

My grandfather was a big CL guy. He had two that I know of, one being a 2001 CL600 and a 2010 CL550 4matic. He sold the CL600 to the guy who took care of his cars at his Vegas condo for $10 (he was based in Nashville and didn’t get to go out there as much in his later years so did it as a thank you to the guy). I inherited the CL550 from him after he passed last year. At the time it only had 43k miles and it has been an amazing car. I’ve only had it for the summer but have managed to 7k on the car and it makes long road trips a joy to drive. Great car and you don’t see too many of them on the road. Only even seen 3, a CL63 AMG, a CL600 “AMG”, and a CL550.

[@vahebaldemian]

You are 100% correct on everything. Enjoy it brotha! I had the 55. In hindsight I wish I had gotten the 600. I just can't stand when people swap out the ABC for the coilovers. Complete disrespect to the car and it's designers and engineers. It is a major part or what makes the his car and its ride special. Too many people want to be the boss without paying the cost. -Vee, ('09 CL63)

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks for watching and commenting!! Love your car...CL63 IS the boss!! One in my future for sure.

[@tomasexteriors]

Vahe Baldemian 110% with you 👊🙌

[@mrGW]

Na thats just called being dumb

[@ryandorn7831]

10 - 4 on the sun-roof! Thought that was only me! The M275 engine is just magic, nothing like it. Thanks!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I love electric cars, but it’s a shame that these are probably the last V12 engines that will ever be made. So smooth and powerful :-) thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@mikegreenburg1127]

I bought a 2004 CL600 4 days before this video was posted. Just found this video and your channel. I cannot stress enough how much I love this car and everything you say is true and more. It is a blast to drive around in. The one I bought had the suspension replaced with coilovers (to which I am actually happy about) and it still rides and handles great. The car not only looks timeless but is very comfortable to ride in. It is a rare car as well and I have yet to see another CL600 where I am. I have seen the Cl500's and even the CL55's but the 600 is elusive even while owning one. I am currently doing a tuneup on it and as you have stated it is not hard at all to work on. The only issues I have seen is the trunks failing which most are under recall, the suspension and the coilpacks failing. Other than that not too much. However, do not expect to own/drive this car and not pay to enjoy it. You will pay the Mercedes Tax. You have found an additional subscriber. Also I buy all my parts from FCP Euro with their lifetime warranty on most all their parts (I am not endorsed by them)

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks so much!! These cars are so great but like I said in the Cars and Bids auction they are like that hot person you date who breaks your heart but you always take them back!! The V12 is that addictive. Good luck with yours - there's so much repair information out there on the common issues that they are wonderful cars if you don't mind turning a few wrenches on them every once in a while!!

[@uzzle21]

has anything went wrong with your trunk?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@uzzle21 automatic pull down on mine (and most of them) was broken...I never tried to fix....

[@uzzle21]

@@cassidycarcave2781 you need to check the hydraulic fluid beside the battery in the trunk it might be dirty and needa to be changed

[@mumblety96]

Drive one with ABC vs. coilovers and you'll kick yourself.

[@KevinJones-ef5hy]

I've had mine for 4 years it the best car Ive ever owned 2007 cl600.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I know right?!? They are incredible machines. Severely underrated in the car community. I can't think of anything that even comes close at it's price point. Thanks for watching!!!

[@thiggmayo117]

i dreamed about the 600 series since i was little and now i have an 07 s600 and an 04 cl600

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Awesome!!! Congratulations! Great cars enjoy…and thanks for watching!!

[@aomar9449]

Such a great review, not many people truly get the beauty of these cars but you certainly do.

[@garyrains5996]

Bought my 2003 CL600 almost 3 years ago. ABC suspension is flawless. When the Mercedes DEALER service department tells you nothing is amiss with any part of the car, you believe them! Best car I've ever owned. I take friends and family for rides and most agree it is the best car they've been in. Thank you for the video.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks Gary! Once sorted they can actually be pretty reliable vehicles. ABC system is not that bad and when it's functioning man does it provide an awesome ride. I consider it to be routine maintenance on the ABC which I don't mind. What I do mind are the design flaws like the cheap plastic timing guides on my Range Rover! Mercedes seems to have the least amount of these of the European brands. Enjoy the car. This one I'm sure will not be my last!!

[@garyrains5996]

@@cassidycarcave2781 Hi again. I have two Jaguars where the timing guides have been replaced. I've been a car buff all my life but never liked rough-riding, noisy "muscle cars" at all. Very nice to hear you explain to folks that comfort is a factor to some of us. I love going fast, really love it (when safe) but a person can do that in quiet cars with tons of power. My next project is restoring a 1970 Mercedes 280 SE which I've owned for 35 years, but wanted to have something to do in my "golden years". I had no idea they would be here so quickly!! Been a fan of youtube car guys forever, but this is actually my very first (now second) comment to any site. Good luck and I wish you continued success with your site.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@garyrains5996 I love the 280SE!!! If you don't mind, send a picture to [e-mail]. There will be one of those in my future for the channel!! Value is only going up as well!!

[@jakubsvoboda9134]

Thanks for this vid bought mine CL600 5.8 V12(no biturbo) and love it ever since. Starting the car is always the orchestra and anytime I drive it I feel really special. Its definitely best car I ever drove and I drove many brand new cars including S class 7 series etc. The design of this car is so timeless and still looks really fresh and attracts alot of attention when on nice wheels. Abslutely love the quality of the interior and probably 1 of the best steering wheels oh man and that audio is insane quality. It can be quiet while cruising but when u floor it it has great roar to it. Basicaly absolutely love this car to bits est car I ever owned!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

These cars deserve to have more of a following!! I love a car that is awesome but you don't see five of them every time you go out to dinner. Congratulations and enjoy!!

[@danbainbridge5920]

I just got one it’s a 2004 with 103k miles and I absolutely love it

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Congratulations Dan you're going to love it :-) rare car with true sleeper performance! Thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@davejohnson3860]

I was close to purchasing a 03' CL 600 w/110K on the dial back in 2014. The owner wanted a bit more than I was willing to offer, So I walked away. The CL body is the best looking style Ive seen in the last 20 -25 yrs, and I call myself a "Car guy".

[@tomdilly3088]

Fantastic Video! Very informative and really makes one want to put their foot on it with class and luxury. Thanks for posting and keep them coming

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks Tom!! They really are wonderful cars and definitely underappreciated. I would be curious to read in the comments here what other people think would compete with the CL600. The only other V12's I can think of in this range would be a BMW 850i but your not touching one of those under $10k and not a modern engine and for sure no turbos. Same think with a Jaguar XJ 12 cylinder...What cars am I missing?

[@tomdilly3088]

@@cassidycarcave2781 How about the 2002/ 03 's Aston Martin DB 7 Vanatge GT sporting the V12 and 6 speed manual.... Maybe not in the same price range... but not too far off. I am sure others have more cars we have not yet mentioned ....Any more candidates to consider?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@tomdilly3088 Man those are beautiful cars aren't they? They are too often overlooked as well. I don't know that anyone makes a higher quality interior than the British!!

[@jakubsvoboda9134]

Exactly DB7 are awesome provlem is they are double the price of CL 600 and maintenance is even bigger nightmare than CL way bigger.

[@Dodger2879]

@@tomdilly3088 BMW 850i.

[@robertchautardjensen6846]

I purchased mine in the UAE as a survival vehicle for my two daughters, wife and myself. Anyone coming up fast behind you is no problem and a slight press on the accelerator and you are suddenly a kilometre in front of the speeders behind you. It blows the doors off almost all other cars on the road in the UAE, where people don't read speed signs. I wish I could have taken it home to Australia with me... The airconditioned seats also massage your back... Darn, I really miss my CL600.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Hey Robert thanks for watching and commenting! I could not agree with you more. There's just not many cars that come out of the factory with this kind of power that are attainable for most people. In fact, there's one on Craigslist here in Nashville right now that's a fixer upper that I am so tempted to take a chance on! Is it hard to import a car into Australia?

[@robertchautardjensen6846]

@@cassidycarcave2781 I suspect fixer uppers are often not worth the trouble, however they can be good as sacrificial parts for other better condition vehicles. For my money, I would go after vehicles that have been well looked after by its owner, negotiate a deal and then go over it in fine detail. My CL600 in the UAE had a defective water line somewhere in the engine and it blew four water pumps in two years. Then after fixing that problem, I parked in the new Dubai Mall and the concrete block at the front of the car park was just high enough to crimp the ABC hydraulic line and this cost me a new hydraulic pump which ended up costing me USD$5,500.00. I loved the ABC suspension system and would definitely own another Bi Turbo CL600 2005 to 2009 model if I can find one at the right price in right hand drive.

[@lakeminnetonkaoutdoors7532]

Well it’s kind of funny because I’m purchasing I just purchased a 2005 CL 636,000 miles on it very clean and it looks like the price didn’t go up since your video ‘ cause I paid about 23,000 but I agree with you and I think this is the best review I’ve seen on this car yet everything you said was very informative I subscribe and look forward to watching your videos thank you for the information

[@machtanfinancial9902]

36k miles lol ( voice text)

[@jaketysmajr2826]

The CL600 is a beautiful car I have a 2002 CL600 non turbo car and it does have a lot of power

[@twilson1973]

Nice video. I have always been a fan of the CL. I agree, the CL is somewhat underrated. The 2000-2006 still looks modern in my opinion. It has ages very well. Thanks for sharing the info.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks Tim!! I'm a sucker for any V12 but strap a couple of turbos to it and it's "Take my money please"!!

[@uzzle21]

i love how you did your car ! it looks astonishing, im pushing a 03 s600 now and its amazing ! car just cant get outdated

[@cassidycarcave2781]

It's timeless!!! Hope you find one they're amazing - Thanks!

[@uzzle21]

@@cassidycarcave2781 I have the 03 s600 w220 just got it at the end of august and i love it

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@uzzle21 oh yea right sorry! Love that car - 12 cylinders of bad ass comfort!!!

[@swamistevie4711]

I have owned the 2003 CL 600 since 2005. Great car with timeless styling. It is my understanding that in 2003 Mercedes only made 500 Cars worldwide. That is rare!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Love the V12TT. Can't believe more people aren't joining the fun with these. Problems yes but massive smiles per dollar! Thx for watching!!

[@lmanier42]

I picked up my one-owner 2003 CL600 (amg pckg) in August, which was literally owned by "a little old lady from Pasadena" with scratched rims and a cracked fender with 81k miles. Well maintained and always garaged, except she probably never realized it needed motor mounts. MB dealer installed the mounts for $1,692. Surprisingly, the independent guys wanted nearly twice that much. I love the car. I can relate to your appreciation for this great automobile, so, I think I will become a subscriber to your very informative and easy to watch videos.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks so much - you got a great car! So much torque and smiles per dollar with the V12 twin turbo. I'll always have a V12 to feature on the channel. Thanks for subscribing and commenting!

[@1995RangeRover]

Good vid for a great auto! Subscribed :)

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks!!! These are such quality vehicles wrapped around an amazing drivetrain that the higher maintenance costs are worth every penny!!!!

[@erichknodel4334]

I have the SL65 and CL65 and I love them both. Once you’ve been bitten by the V12 bug you won’t want anything else.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Could not agree more Erich!! Just the sound of a V12 starting is enough to make me forget a V8...but the torque...man it's fun. I just bought a 03 S600 Twin Turbo for The Cave. Should be a video on it this weekend. Thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@Rizkic509]

Awesome video.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks Rizo! I'll have a similar review video for its big brother, the 2003 S600 twin turbo that I recently added out this week. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@richardcroll3]

Center console and dash structure underneath is carbon fiber

[@jhonsmith2150]

This was a good vid, 👍! I found a 03 cl600 V12 Twin Turbo on Craigslist, for only $5000 with 140k miles! It jus needs new shocks an abs module fix! Still a good buy, but it already sold Damn! Ill keep my eye out for this beauty 👏😎

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Awesome good luck thanks for watching and commenting!

[@jaybekele5160]

Great video with great insight. I just bought an 02 CL- 600 with 50k original miles.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Congratulations!!!! From initial startup to cruising at 80 there’s nothing like a V12:-) You will love it!! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@annahopp]

I would love to have this much space in a warehouse. I would fill it with cars. :-)

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Yep and I did!! Cars, boats, trailers and an Airstream!! New content coming soon from the new "Cave". Not as big but much closer to my house. Thanks for watching!!

[@felawes]

Super video. I run a CL500. If you take the time to fix the ABC professionally the ride is better than any car you could name. Country roads are swallowed up effortlessly as if you are on a magic carpet.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Exactly!! I understand why people do it but I cringe when they switch to coil overs. The ABC system is awesome. It's why I'm spending a fortune to rehab the pre - ABC hydraulic suspension in the R129 SL600. I know you love your CL500 - Sleeper car!!!

[@petermuurman7624]

Absolute fantástic car. I remember in one of my bike trips I saw one in Batumi in the European country of Georgia, also the 600. It was the ultimate maffia car I always dreames of ever since. I am a v12 junkie by heart pure by the beauty of the mechanically inherently balanced nature. I love my x300 XJ12 Jag for that reason. But dream of one of the CL600' s ass well. Very nice video.. thanx for sharing👍

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Hey Peter thanks for watching. V12's in general are so underappreciated. They can be had for fairly modest money if you don't mind turning a few wrenches. Was Jaguar the first mainstream V12? One day I will have a mid-90s XJS V12 convertible. More videos to come on the 1994 SL600 V12 I just bought!

[@petermuurman7624]

@@cassidycarcave2781 Nice! And yes I agree, the V12 is under appreciated. And and yes i guess the Jag was the first relatively accessible V12. Ofcourse there have been much earlier ones. Packards, Duesenburg' s etc but they were not mainstream. Think Mercedes made it very much more available to a wider audiënce later as well👍

[@onbross121]

What a beautiful car. They're rising in price in the UK in the past year. I have an Audi S8 V10 but can't stop thinking about a Cl600. It just looks so much more comfortable/beautiful. Might go with the later model though as they're same price now as older model.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Yeah I think the newer models have a much better ABC system as well. Eventually they dumped ABC and went with a pneumatic system. Get one! They are the ultimate sleeper and so much fun to drive! And extremely quiet and comfortable when your not using all that power...Thanks for watching :-)

[@750coda]

Great Video 👍 Recently purchased one and done my research and fixed many of the faults including the PSE fault (New compressor motor spline) And the near side front strut was dropping over night so fixed that too.. Just about to do a full ABC flush in the next week or so 💪

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Great job! These cars reward maintenance with massive amounts of power! They are worth it :-)

[@BorisBidjanSaberi11]

How has DIY been? I own a W203 RennTech and work on it with my dad, looking for a CL600 and would love to do work with my pops

[@markjones-vx3kp]

I’ve had many Merc’s I have a rare bi turbo in my little Collection They really are amazing to drive And such sleepers it great to watch people’s faces . If you get them right nothing comes close Maybe an XJ12 for refinement Very underrated Good video

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Yes! Others have suggested a Bentley V12 coupe as similar but agree that it costs more and is even MORE expensive to maintain. So fun to have something that you don't see on every corner as well. I see more Bentley's than CL's..

[@Dodger2879]

@@cassidycarcave2781 XJ12 is a wallet breaker! Bentley is a W12 and quite a physically small engine....21" deep??? I believe. My old school friend had a Continental GT and I was sat in it terrified, as he "beat" speed cameras at 186 mph at 0300 on the M4 from London to Bristol. Foolish to be sure. He got a flat tyre sometime later. Yokohama, towing and fitting by Bentley ? >5000 pounds! >$9000 in 2007. Love the CL series. I have had S class, but the CL is so easy on the eyes as well as delivering all that MB has to offer. Great honest video. Thanks.

[@Pennychaser1]

Enjoy the vid! I agree Cl600/65's are ultra rare. I own CL55k which I find it rare already. I can't remember last time I saw a 600/65. I ditched ABC in favor of coilovers and no regrets here. I wrench on mine myself I think I saved $10k in labor cost in the last 3 months

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I'm sure you saved at least that. Plus it's pretty fun! Satisfying to have something wrong and at the end of the day it's right :-) thanks for watching!

[@gregs8685]

Very cool car, although I like the sedan you have more. My friend has this car in the AMG 65 version, oh my that is a fast car. Also drove in an S55 AMG sedan (V8 kompressor) which was nice but not nearly as smooth and quiet as the V12. I do think a different set of smaller diameter wheels would make this one look better. Just subscribed.

[@billrbca]

enjoy your videos ..normal car guy perspective.....love your warehouse!... these V12's will last if not abused....look at the rev's a 60 on your drive are < 2k.....

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks Bill!!! Everyone quotes 0-60 which I could care less about. It's all about smiles per dollar. These are amazing engines...so much power they can deliver anywhere in the RPM band. Thanks for watching and especially for joining in the conversation.

[@igorkoske8376]

When this CL-600 was sold as new it didn’t have the AMG badge on it even on the “AMG SPORTS Pkg” only on True AMG CL has a AMG badge and this CL-600 is a regular CL-600 with just an option of sports Pkg and it didn’t come with “AMG” badging from the factory when it was built and then sold new at the dealership. Whoever bought it placed “AMG” badge themselves on the back of the trunk. Only CL-55 AMG V8 and CL-65 V12 AMG came with AMG badging. Your plain CL-600 doesn’t even have original grill and it has aftermarket rims that weren’t sold on this car back in 2003 or on any CL period not even AMG models from that era. Another thing: this era cars didn’t hold up well because of rust and air suspension issues that leaked and caused the car lowering. Previous generation CL was the state of the art cars that are still in high demand and generation after the 2000’s was a good one but this generation you are displaying is the worst generation of Mercedes cars ever made. And you’re are not a car guy, dude you are not even sure that Mercedes models did come with W12 engines, you had to guess about SL and S class.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Hey man! Good points!! Take a look at some of my other videos - I can turn a wrench - may not be the best Mercedes historian but I do love them!! Your right about the AMG stuff for sure. Thanks for watching!!

[@TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead]

I have a CL 500 from this era, not as quick as the 600 Bi Turbo but it's still every much as nice to drive and 300hp is never actually that slow.

[@hhy2k]

Actuall they are a bit quicker off the line and lighter in the corners....

[@chaunceyhannibaljr.5954]

I own a Cl500 01 first car for me love it but time on getting a new one 08 Cl600 test drove it love it over the 09 amg 63!! V12 are sleepers in those Mercedes fr!!!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Chauncey you are so right!!! V12 are so addictive from the first time you turn the key:-) Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@OatesSteve]

I’m dying to know what you paid in Nashville for your CL 600? How many miles on it, you did a great job love the wheels and love the tint, overkill nor at all, it’s what the car deserves a little extra touches you did are perfect. It could use a lowering kit doesn’t affect the ride at all. And they’re very inexpensive.Absolutely beautiful car I’m jealous, enjoy.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Hey thanks so much for the great feedback! I bought the car about 5 years ago for $9,000. Put 20,000 miles on it and a lot of sweat equity and sold it for I think $9,000 about 6 months ago. It had around 115k miles on it when I sold it. It was such a great car but it was time for it to move on. The people that bought it have done some amazing things to it with a lowering kit and ECU flash. I have the four-door version now with the 03 S600. Also a beast to drive :-) thanks again!

[@sergioramirez8222]

Hello, how you doing. First I want to say that I really like your video and I agree 110% about the car. I have one myself with just a Lil over 60000 original miles on it and recently I been having trouble with it going into limp mode .. it's giving me 7 codes all misfires. Can you help?

[@profoundgenius9726]

I want one so bad, but my wife won’t let me have one. 😔😔😔

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Tell her they are safe!! Stout car...lots of airbags...crumple zones...great road trip car - you could take her to fancy weekend car shows:-) easy to drive - she can impress her friends driving them on "girls night"...true room for two kids in the back...it's an investment!!! These cars are trending up, not down, in value:-) Good luck!!!! Thanks for watching!

[@trackingcalin1988]

Tell her that the car speed is limited at 250 km/h

[@Level_Up_Nation]

Bought a 02 CL600 v12 base from auto auction and still putting money into it lol, changed the expensive coil pack that was out, alternator that was out, battery, power steering pump (ABC) and now it wants to smoke off and on...lmao didn't smoke before, so might have a fuel issue. The thing about these cars is that if you don't drive it, you are going to have leaks. It will break traction super easy though, 700+ torque.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Yes they are Bad A** enough to make us put up wit the leaks and Christmas 365 dashboard!!

[@BoyishDriver]

Exercise your ABC valves. Raise and lower all heights. Especially keep ABC fluid fresh and filter changed. Keep viscosity up on that factory fluid, keep that pump happy. Mine opens up that sunroof shade. Spins to 50 60 mph from a 2nd gear start from 0mph. 275 40 18 rears. So much can be said. Cool video!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks for the kind words. You are so right these cars are incredible. I truly don't think they get the respect they should. Not many 12 cylinder twin turbos you can get for used Camry money. The headaches are worth the troubles especially if they're second cars. What you say about maintenance and upkeep is so true! Got to keep the ABC system clean. Thanks!

[@lakeminnetonkaoutdoors7532]

matt what’s your email or number, it seems that you have a ton of knowledge on these would love to tap your brain

[@petercabrera4999]

I have one, what’s the best route to get more 12V sound and maybe some increase in HP from the exhaust system. Best bang for the buck please.

[@davidbuchananmba5624]

Love your perspective on what you like about cars. People make a big deal of max speed of all cars. Here is my question to those people. Where can you drive a car 80 plus miles an hour with out losing control due to ok average road conditions. One dip or pot hole at high speed you are losing control. Don’t cart how good a driver you think you are. What’s you opinion on that statement. I do want a CL 600 V12 on my bucket list.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Could not agree more! People go insane over stats...0 to 60 and horsepower and all of that. The most important thing is the driving experience. Hoovies Garage says on his channel that being able to run through the gears without going into felony speeding ticket land is joy!! Our roads aren't capable of speeds over 90 mph. Give me a fun car that's great to drive over a stat sheet any day :-) thanks for watching and for great comments!!

[@gibsoneustermann9846]

I love mine

[@BoyishDriver]

I really enjoy my 2005 s600. ABC and m275 and RWD. Keep all drains spotless. Don't park under trees that chronically shed.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Preach brother! Thanks for watching and commenting :-)

[@lakeminnetonkaoutdoors7532]

when i bought my 2005 with 38k miles my drained were clogged, assume the amp or fiber optics took a dump when that happend but i’m waiting on a loop to see which system is faulty

[@joaquinsanchez7723]

You are totally right on what you say but tune your car I have it delete you will feel another beast

[@Veryperceptivecat]

The 215 and 216 CLs are spectacular vehicles. I'm currently looking for a 6.2 CL63 and recently drove a C216 600 just to see what it's like - and promptly fell in love. The V12 just felt much better suited for such a massive vehicle. While the 6.2 V8 was a monster, very aggresive, it felt like it wanted to shake off the heavy body and eject itself out of the engine bay. By comparison, the V12 felt more... dense, I think perhaps due to longer gearing and the twin turbochargers. I would take the 63 for the incredible sound and upgraded handling/brakes, but the 600 for the creamy smooth delivery and the special interior. At this moment I can't pick between them.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Can't go wrong, right?!? I see another CL in my future...Hopefully a V12 AMG. Good luck!!!

[@lakeminnetonkaoutdoors7532]

get both! i have the ML63 and CL600 and are 2 different vehicles. totally different power

[@Veryperceptivecat]

@@lakeminnetonkaoutdoors7532 I ended up with a 2007 CL600. Couldn't be happier, and the ML63 would be my first pick for a fast SUV :)

[@hhy2k]

I think that among these big coupes the V8s are always the sporty ones and the v12s are more like cruiser bosses.... Had an 850i, 740i and the CL500....

[@da900smoove1]

STRICTLY FOR DEEP POCKETS TO OWN AND MAINTAIN.....I had a 2002 CL600 Natural Aspirated.....Electrical Problems Galore.....Rear Tire Wear is Rapid even when driven like Old Lady from Pasadena....Find a Independent Mercedes Benz Mechanic and Buy OBD2 Code Reader....Buy Parts online

[@cassidycarcave2781]

True words spoken here! I tell people if you don't have a "Cave"...your going to hate these cars!! Thanks for watching!!!

[@gman5986]

I have a 2003 CL600 with the Renntech ECU upgrade and now putting out 625 HP and 745 Lbs. torque close to the CL65. Love this car but so scary to own as last year I took it to a recommended mechanic to fix the electric cooling fan not working. $4,000 later and the electric fan,radiator replaced. Only 55 k miles but the car is approaching 19 years old. Recently I started seeing some small drops of oil on the road/driveway but now its coming out much more and even in a small stream if I park in the driveway and then restart to move into the garage. Without lifting the car yet it looks to be coming from the passenger side front just behind the front bumper assembly or passenger side front of the engine. Does anyone have any Idea what this could be? Is there a separate engine oil cooler and where is it located? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Love this car.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Yes they are awesome but they're always one puddle away from a $6,000 repair :-) my guess is you have an ABC leak. The fluid for the hydraulic suspension. There's an ABC hose that goes from the pump on the driver side all the way across the front of the engine sort of underneath the radiator. It's a popular item to fail. That would definitely cause your leak. I'd start there. If it's that hose, it's a pain to take off but it can be repaired by a hydraulic hose shop if you're in a big city....good luck and thanks for watching!!!!

[@mikechan2044]

I need more updatessss

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Hey Mike you are so right! Sorry man there's been a few changes with The Cave. I'm finally settled into my new location and you should be seeing some updated and more consistent videos very very soon! Thanks so much for your interest!!!

[@tomasexteriors]

This guy is gold 🙌❤

[@doblen8043]

Heyy, can i ask you a question?? Where is the battery? I just found an old cl600 in an old garage and i cant start it, i think is the battery and i dont know What to do

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Passenger side of the trunk...good luck!! Thx for Watching!

[@isirius-constantingligorie4672]

Cl600 w215 v12Biturbo , this is CAR. i have it for 2 yrs now. MEC design exchaust and ecu tunned to 645hp and 950NM. And yes. Drives and sounds like no others.(exclude the M5 63 Ferrari etc)

[@cassidycarcave2781]

They are awesome and they can be found in every price range!!! Nice tune on yours - Thanks for watching!!

[@v12mercedes-benz72]

How do we turn our car? Thanks i have 220 s600 biturbo,

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@v12mercedes-benz72 I think you're asking how to tune these cars? Check out Renntech! They make some incredible mods for these cars as well as some ECU tunes that really boost the power! Thx for watching!!

[@v12mercedes-benz72]

@@cassidycarcave2781 i already done some remap, but always show load limited active, then cut the power, and i tried other brand tuning company, still the same, so i am no direct to check right now, new 2 Coil pack new ignition module, new plugs.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@v12mercedes-benz72 check the MAP sensor that measures boost on the intake. It's a plastic piece that actually attaches to the bracket for the ignition module. Has a small vacuum hose that runs into the manifold. The plastic connector on the sensor often brakes at the hose. Good luck!!

[@markmowbray1769]

Just bought one, 2003 model. Arrives next week. All the bits done, ABC and coil packs with fresh brakes and gearbox service. Let see what happens. Up against my Arrange Red Label....

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Awesome enjoy the car...SOOO much torque!! I'll be interested to see how you think it compares to your Bentley. Thanks!!

[@markmowbray1769]

​@@cassidycarcave2781 Well a month or so in, the CL600 is an amazing car, but we have a but. Once again, folks trying to fix on the cheap. I am having to retro repair all sorts, from cooling fan, gearbox, HVAC fan, entertainment amp, new tyres, snapped air filter boxes, it goes on and on. I have even repaired and reprogrammed keyless go, thats really good. But one thing I can not trace / sort is the RPM's wandering around when I drive at a contestant speed below 40 MPH. Not by much but enough to notice. RPM sensor, speed sensor, torque converter??? I just don't know. I have used the Mercedes service system, I have no drive train fault codes, except Air Intake Temp to high which I put down to broken air filter boxes, now fixed (improved turbo power as a result). Any ideas welcome. In comparison to the Bentley, no comparison. Two very different power houses delivering a brilliant drive in different ways. But they both suffer from poor quality maintenance and the headaches that come with that. Mercedes, not as hard waring as people think, Bentley same as ever. But both brilliant in their own way. My choice if I had to choose, today and right now, the Bentley (just). That might change tomorrow when something else drops off :-)

[@andrewmalajna7874]

Mark how is your experience with the car after one year? I think i want one!

[@markmowbray1769]

@@andrewmalajna7874 Just seen this, owning the CL600 is not for the faint hearted, they need lots of investment in quality care, parts and techs who actually know what they are talking about. I dont regret owning the CL at all.

[@donls1sscme]

I found a black locally for 11k but its black all my cars are white but the cl has always been favorite next to a 850 bmw guy says its got new coil packs and i believe new shocks and gas alot of maintenance records im just scared of it if the tranny goes out it will cost more than the car is worth lol

[@terrystratford1235]

Can the turbos be upgraded? Has anyone taken the engine to the tuning limit? Very cool car! I was thinking about getting the CL500 but maybe this v12 is cooler!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

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[@cassidycarcave2781]

I think the weak link would be the rest of the drivetrain if it had much more power. Transmissions and differentials might fall apart!

[@terrystratford1235]

@@cassidycarcave2781 hadn't thought of that! Plenty of power anyway, but I like to know incase I look at one that's had ' upgrades'! Many thku!

[@terrystratford1235]

@@cassidycarcave2781 well at least he admitted he is an idiot! Thku man!

[@BoyishDriver]

I love my wooden o sh*t bars!

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I've had a lot of cars I can't remember any of them having wooden grab handles. Pretty nice attention to detail and fit and finish on the w220's!! Thanks for joining in!

[@justintavella7043]

Hey all, Should I trade a 04 Vette with 21000 miles on it for a 2002 cl600 with 50 k on it

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I wouldn't... CL 600 didn't get the twin turbo V12 until 2003. I think you'd be disappointed... Your Corvette will go up in value. I doubt the non turbo CL will...thx!!!!

[@justintavella7043]

@@cassidycarcave2781 thanks for that response my buddy

[@trackingcalin1988]

I drove the CL55AMG in NFS and is much faster and easier to handle than the M5, better times on any circuit.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Love the real world feedback. It's just an underappreciated car. And they're fairly rare so the cool factor is nice with them :-) thanks for watching and commenting!

[@trackingcalin1988]

​@@cassidycarcave2781 The fact that I noticed that the CL is the most maneuverable car at cornering speed made me fall in love with it and wanted to buy one. Even if it's just a game, it's enough to form some opinions. I drove it in 2001, and 20 years later it looks like this car is exactly what I thought it was. The coolest Mercedes ever made, the most beautiful Coupe of all cars and as I said the fastest and most maneuverable of those times. And the most maneuverable Supercar from that period is Mercedes CLK GTR, not Ferrari, not Lambo, not McLaren F1. I notice that Mercedes has the best direction and maneuverability and with a manual gearshift the GTR can beat McLaren F1 on a public road.

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@trackingcalin1988 I think the game totally translates to these cars! They have so much torque they can pull through and out of a corner with massive power...and then the turbos or supercharger kicks in and blasts you down a straightaway...It certainly feels like video game acceleration - only thing comparable to me is a Telsa because these cars are SO quiet doing it...Thanks again!

[@jctecson]

which one is better and more reliable with less problem Mercedes Turbo or Mercedes supercharger? Thank you

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I'd love to hear what people say that have more experience with superchargers. Mine is mostly with the turbos...BUT...my guess is neither is "better" for reliability. It's not really the actual turbo or supercharger unit that will break, it will be all the sensors, electronics and vacuum or coolant lines that will fail. I know every V12 I have had has needed a MAP sensor replaced... I bet the V8 supercharged engines have the same failure. Hopefully others will give their experiences...great question and thanks for watching!!!

[@jctecson]

@@cassidycarcave2781 I really appreciate you response I’m on the fence between a 2001 s600 and 2004 s600 the former is suppose is an NA . I like the 2004 but im scared of it . I have a tiny slk 230 Kompressor not giving me trouble so far . What I saw on line in a dealership 2004 s600 74000 miles for 11k

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@jctecson you've probably seen my video on the s600. It's my daily driver. I love the car! I don't think the added turbos would increase the maintenance for a 2004 versus a 2001. Both models are incredibly complex and it will be the sensors and auxiliary systems that fail not the engine, transmission, turbos and such. Either car will definitely be orders of magnitude higher in maintenance cost than your 230. I would guess three or four times your annual expenses... Unless you can do some of it on your own and have access to Star Diagnostics. Don't want to be a bummer because I love the twin turbo V12 but they are time bombs and nothing is $500 to repair :-)

[@kalfoogaltmimi5043]

This evil hose There are from 2002 to 2006 Carries a spare parts number A2203205372 In the video you mentioned that it is not easy to disassemble and install This is the hose The problem you have is that you shorten the time in recording the video We do not want to shorten the video. We want to see everything done, disassemble and reconfigure so that we can learn from you how to disassemble and maintain Even if it lasts for several hours, there is no problem Important education and interest

[@nadk8886]

Great video? Is that the original grill. Also would you recommend anyone buying this as a daily driver?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Thanks so much! No the grill is from a cl55 AMG Mercedes. As much as I love these cars, unless you have all the tools and equipment they're really not daily drivers. They're just so expensive to maintain and they break a lot! I think the SL's are much better daily drivers. Particularly the SL500 that is normally aspirated.

[@nadk8886]

@@cassidycarcave2781 hi thanks so much for your reply. I've been watching your videos all day. Really informative. I currently own a 500SEC which I will never sell. But I've always wanted a CL. I guess I will stick to my Golf mk5 gti as my daily driver 😔

[@redrum2204]

@@cassidycarcave2781 I daily my modified CL55. About 200km a day. Over 300000km on the clock

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@redrum2204 that is amazing congratulations. I bet that's one enjoyable commute :-) thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@redrum2204]

@@cassidycarcave2781 repair bills are insane.

[@abdullahteke7886]

Can I put those turbos in my cl550 2007

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I don't see any way that's possible...to much electronics involved...thanks for watching!

[@uzzle21]

renntech has an unreal tune thats reliable for over 600hp and 800 torque, this car can easily terrorize cars on the road

[@cassidycarcave2781]

I've seen the renntech tuned models... Talk about the ultimate sleeper!

[@TheBlackbird22]

Were all of these cars AMG versions or just nominated AMG packages had to be included?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

They were not AMG cars

[@TheBlackbird22]

@@cassidycarcave2781 Thanks for the video, i found one that is inexpensive but needs a rear main seal replaced

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@TheBlackbird22 yep mine needed that as well. I had a shop here and Nashville do it for me for $1K. I was too lazy to pull the transmission and do it myself :-) my S600 needs the same thing now!

[@theradimalgames3773]

@@cassidycarcave2781My S600 needs the rear main seal replaced as well! Do you believe it’s worth doing it? Or just let it be since it is a 20 yer old car and it doesn’t really affect anything?

[@uzzle21]

u still got that car man? i want to get me a CL

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Sold it...bad ass car...love all the V12's!!!

[@uzzle21]

@@cassidycarcave2781 for sure im still the s600 id neva get rid of it

[@Uc9uE3pKsS6uQ]

what car this wheels taken of ?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Hey John! They are from a 2003 SL500...thx!!

[@tonistoned8565]

What about fuel consumption?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Not sure you could pour it out faster!! Horrible! Maybe 12-13 mpg...but who cares!! Maintenance bills are WAYY scarier than fuel costs on these. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@tonistoned8565]

@@cassidycarcave2781 I asked for environment, not for wallet reasons. Thx

[@cassidycarcave2781]

@@tonistoned8565 Awesome point! Almost any electric car is faster than this car and burns way less fossil fuels. Check out the video I did comparing this car to my wife's Tesla. Mercedes was no match!

[@joshmorris7131]

Are you the dad from cherdleys?

[@cassidycarcave2781]

Not too far from right!?!

[@brienmacgearailt7801]

super unreliable

[@cassidycarcave2781]

100% agree!! Worth it, but agree!!!

[@mmid8960]

Performances doesn’t matter then goes on to mention how it does🤣

[@joaquinsanchez7723]

You are totally right on what you say but tune your car I have it delete you will feel another beast