My Summerboard Progression Update After One Week

[@Shred1904]

The camera underneath the board really helps to see that you are essentially gliding on the two center wheels when balanced!

[@steveokay8810]

Yeah, that makes it clear it's a sort of holonomic drive. I was wondering about that.

[@razrfish]

Great video Kevin - I've been meaning to make a video similar of my progress. I am 59 yo, I'm an intermediate/advanced snowboarder, and I have owned several different esk8 boards. Including a monster All Terrain 4x4 Ecomobl M24. I love the Summerboard. I've owned mine for about 4 months, it exactly as you said, somewhat of a learning curve, but incredibly rewarding when you get the balance down, and begin linking slide turns. I love how you can manipulate the board to turn on a dime, 180 to switch, and back, and how much of the mechanics of riding it translate to snowboarding. Messing with the ESC control app gives you infinite access to how the motor accelerates and brakes. Also switching out wheels (softer/harder) and bushings (softer/harder) changes the feel of the slide and carve depending on the surfaces you frequently ride.

[@steveokay8810]

Awesome to hear that there is an older dude out there like me w/ one of these...I'm sorely tempted

[@razrfish]

@@steveokay8810 Give in to the temptation, You only live once, and this is a crazy cool tech!!

[@budthebusker]

I'm 59 in a month or 2.. similar background .. snowboard etc.. done some freebording but didn't progress much... the Summerboard is much better to learn on. Only had a few short runs so far but I love it. Stay safe.... I hope to be able to ride well into my 60's...

[@kenshin130]

Hello fellow board lover~ how did you find when you swap to smaller wheels with different materials? Does it allow for steeper angle braking and have you found a setting that mimics closer to snowboarding?

[@yorickiii]

How important is a smooth surface? What happens when there're small rocks or branches?

[@sanjayc74]

the footholds make such a difference...definitely helped my switch riding too.

[@razrfish]

Personally I think they should tell you to learn with the skyhooks on, instead of how they tell you to learn with them off. The instruction videos should just compel you to learn to bail properly from any direction of a fall.

[@steveokay8810]

@@razrfish learning bails is super-important for doing anything in the street.

[@donnyh3497]

I also think they should tell you to put on the bindings right away. I also took off the risers after unboxing.

[@cesarlin]

@@donnyh3497 they really should have the riser off on default. I had some much trouble getting started with the risers. Once I took off the risers everything just clicked.

[@elginpowersolutions1474]

dude! yes! i have been waiting for one of my fav snowboard vloggers to get into soem detail with this boards! thanks so much and keep it coming on the summer board for sure!

[@PeterMazur]

how do you feel about the saftey aspect, I remember learning to snowboard and all i can say is: I am glad it wasnt concrete I was learning on XD

[@crossup13]

you're not gonna die from taking a fall, wtf do you mean safety aspect. It's not a weapon, unless you're at risk of death from a hip break, in which case why tf would you ever ride these, or a moron who routinely goes into traffic without looking, there really isn't any danger outside a bruise or 2.

[@syundown6005]

@@crossup13 Chill out buddy it ain't that deep

[@SpinCrash]

@@crossup13 you need to chill.

[@Ellis01234567890]

@@crossup13 I doubt death is what he was thinking of. A broken bone can turn someones life upside down if they work or other commitments. Try to think before leaving idiotic comments.

[@desmondcroft3302]

@@crossup13 lmao are you kidding ? It goes 27 mph bro, if your going down hill and crash at 27 mph without a helmet your fucking dead ☠️ 😂.

[@AaronAders]

Nice progression! the foot holds really make all the difference in the world. I gotta work on my switch riding too, but I just love to bomb too much haha

[@Bad_Riders]

just missed the premier! kevs progression on the summer board is inspiring/infuriating haha. i tried the first iteration of this many years ago and struggled hard with adapting snow to street methodology but seeing kev pick it up like this, i need to give it another crack. edit: this is starting to feel like a potential sponsorship, when are we getting a discount code hahahaha

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Missed you in the Premier Adam! Get back on the horse! I’m going to try and take it through the city for the next vid. Will see about a potential code in the future!

[@Bad_Riders]

@@SnowboardProCamp we gotta talk about you got those under shots! Seeing the wheel slide in the axel makes me feel a little uncomfortable. Im keen to get back on it.

[@TallJakeW]

That thing looks like so much fun.

[@noaillikainen8762]

im thinking about buying it for the summer because LOVE snowboarding. do you think i should do it because its a pretty big investment

[@timw4161]

Started learning on my friends board. Going to be a blast once I have one 🔥

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Awesome Tim!

[@ethanhopp93]

Thanks for the video bro, just bought mine. Waiting on it to come in the mail

[@inmotion_snow]

really awesome progression dude! the gliding looks superb

[@steveokay8810]

Oh +1 for seeing some pads :) This street skater recommends wrist-guards to round out your protection collection :)

[@wyatt9841]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@kaiserzin]

Awesome video bro!! Keep it up

[@ianterry9675]

Just bought mine cant wait. Knew I should've gotten it long before the season started. Got a few weeks before we the season started here in utah.

[@natraniel]

Id like to see more vids of you on this kev! Ur progression was just so quick after a few sessions. I wanna see how you ride on it now

[@vorg_]

I throw sacrificial socks over the binding covers. They tear pretty easily when they hit the asphalt.

[@grigoriosvellios2739]

Hello Kevin, i started snowboarding at the age of 38 in Greece, it completely change my world in many levels. Pandemic hit us hard on the middle of the season in 2020 and no season at all 2021. u can imagine how i felt when you introduced me to summerboard , thanks dude. that being said it is a high risk investment from my part due to the overseas delivery and customs, but put that aside, i am reluctant to buy it , coz it reported to have micro macro issues that the customer support service of summerboard fixes, i cant afford to have the remote not working and have to send it back all the way to usa. Can u please update us in the maintance department. how does ur summerboard runs , if u faced any issues? i also saw a scracth on the battery ?? what happened. i will value your update on those stuff and if after a few months u deem it ok i might seriously thought about getting one.. we have a lot of sun here ... cheers thanks for the uploads

[@razrfish]

Their customer service has been amazingly helpful. No major issues, had a belt that was a little loose, and I had to try to adjust it, I ended up ruining a screw that holds the bracket that holds the belt. They sent me out a set of screws no problem. The scratch on the battery - I believe every one of these will have that. All it takes is to ride it without the sky hooks installed (they way they tell you to first learn) and you make a bail where the board turns over and voila' the damn battery gets scratched. with the hooks installed it's much harder to scratch the battery. I'm sure that's how Kevin scratched his.

[@shanegrant92]

Good point on switch I dint ride enough snow each year so something to help get that unlwarn to re learn feeling in the summer would be awesome!

[@elliotz15]

Kevin, man you're shreddin! I'm curious how the remote acceleration works when you go switch... wouldn't the remote want to accelerate you the other direction? Or does it just understand your momentum and adjust or something?!

[@AaronAders]

the mechanics automatically adjust going to switch - check out his shots under the board you can see the motor assembly going 180 degrees without changing motor direction!

[@elliotz15]

@@AaronAders Nice! I watched closely @ 4:00 a few times and now I understand better. What a cool design and product!

[@kiddclout]

Yeah but what if u pop off the ground a do a 180

[@cdbrown30]

Hey Kevin, How much do you think this has helped your snowboarding? Or did it help?

[@NewbTube69]

This is the exact reason I am watching these vids on the summer board. I watch Kev's snowboarding vids all the time and was curious if he felt it helped his riding.

[@bryanpak9314]

You think this would help with people that are only able to board once or twice a year? mainly learning switch during the off season and practice carving and such??

[@kenshin130]

Another awesome vid Kevin! 49yo Canuck living in Japan, lovin Japow, snowboarder, surfskates, Ripsurf... very tempted to get the Freeboard when it came out but hesitated as booking down a concrete slope at my age didn't feel like the smart thing to do. Stoked when I saw this and was wondering once you get the hang of it, how similar it feels to a snowboard? Stay safe and keep ridin~

[@rawmark]

It's seriously close to snowboarding!!!!

[@Sandolorian_official]

I got mine yesterday and I grew up wake boarding and snowboarding but this thing kicked my ass day one...ad to see how fast you progressed

[@VliegKunstenaar]

How well did you progress? And does it now actually feel similar to snowboarding?

[@Sandolorian_official]

@@VliegKunstenaar haven't had as much time as I'd like bc of my job. I will say I'm much better though now and when I hit a smooth rotation it really does feel like snowboarding

[@Sandolorian_official]

@@VliegKunstenaar still am very happy I bought it

[@MattAngiono]

Looks intriguing for sure... You might want to try "shark wheels" on it, because they are designed for smooth slides... And they look really cool, especially while filming! Personally, I'll probably stick with my Onewheel because of the serious off road capabilities, but this is definitely a cool concept for the street, and blows away a boosted board! Also wish you didn't need a hand controller... Great job on the progression!

[@janvoimojica3564]

Get it!!!

[@skoolynugenator1802]

This looks great for perfectly paved surfaces.

[@gillianmariepearce]

You're killin' it on that board!

[@peterpanda7506]

i feel like you would run through these wheels in about a month of serious riding. are they easily replaceable ?

[@gringoloco2000]

Looking good man.

[@jon-michaeldennis2689]

Any pro tips like accelerating through slides to maintain control and stability? These videos are great I've wanted a summerboard for months it's just so expensive lol

[@razrfish]

It's important to maintain balance over the board, knees bent, and good athletic position helps, much like snowboarding, you don't want to lean too much, and let the board slide out. Like snowboarding, you want to dig your toes, or heels in, but with this you have more 'ankle' flex movement to pull that off (no boots), but its also possible to do it just like you snowboard, like sitting into your heel side and pressing your front knee down into your toe side. You can vary the amount of pressure you're putting on the outrigger wheels to press more into a carve versus a slide. You can vary the speed control to extend the slide or slice to a stop by reducing speed. Being a larger rider 210lbs, I put harder orangatang nipple yellow bushings in mine to allow me to put more pressure on the edging, and not bottom out the wheel into the underside of the board. The trucks do work to enhance turning when your carving more than sliding. If you're interested, I bought 2 of these one for me, and one for my daughter who took up snowboarding. I've tricked mine out with the sky hook covers, yellow seismic landslide wheels, Kveni Ceramic Bearings, and the yellow Orangatang nipple bushings. It's amazing! My daughter on the other hand, she fell the first day first hour of trying it, and quit. She said she didn't wanna fall on concrete. She'll stick to snow. So it's got like an hour or so use. Paid $1600 plus tax, and plus bought an extra set of slide wheels. Looking to get $1200 cash and will ship CONUSA have original box and such. Ping me if actually interested. razrfish at gmail dot com.

[@HanaFilms1]

Yo Kevin, how does this board go with downhill riding? I'm not sure if you've tried yet so maybe a question better answered in the future. Since the freeboard (a non-electric summerboard essentially) is mostly a downhill type skateboard like snowboarding. I'm wondering if you'd just cut the power from the remote and let gravity take you down and you can adjust speed manually with the turns and slides?

[@razrfish]

Yes, works as you mention. You also use the remote to brake if you get going too fast. While you break the battery actually charges (like Tesla tech)

[@sawyerbeaudoin5834]

Good video dude. You're answering all the questions I had to begin with, and giving me confidence when it comes to the day I do finally get my hands on one of these bad boys. Keep posting videos of your progression. It's super helpful. Not to mention, I think we might speak the same language haha. Jus'sayin'🤷‍♂️. With no info, I would be doing EXACTLY what you're doing to learn how to get this board straight💯. Great minds, alike.... or somethin' gay (happy) n' corny like that, haha. Props brother, keep it up 🤙 Subscribed.

[@ellstackeradventures]

Dude! Ur out there let's gooooo

[@yanchen60]

the only thing need to be concerned for this machine is the maintenance. cleaning the SR360 and changing the centre wheels. i enjoyed my sb a lot.

[@FlareNee]

Very cool 😎 looking forward to getting one.

[@timothyxiong9409]

Hey Kevin! Would you say this board is good for getting around such as a scooter or a long board? Or would it be more of a for fun board on better surfaces?

[@sanjayc74]

I have one and I wouldn't recommend getting this as a commuter board especially in high traffic areas with traffic lights. Get a regular electric longboard or one wheel.

[@tobiasschubeis381]

wow. great progress! can you go down a hill with that? how would you even break?

[@sawyerbeaudoin5834]

There is a remote that controls every aspect of the board when it comes to acceleration and braking. It also controlls speed caps, braking intensity, safety features, and probably some other awesome shit that doesn't immediately seem relevant or important at first thought. This being said, the remote has a command to brake using the electric motors on the board itself. In addition, I believe that it utilizes the concept of "regenerative braking". This concept describes the process of the hubs in your electric wheels producing a very small electrical current for the purpose of slightly charging/tending the battery while you are braking. This process is very similar to that of an alternator (which has the purpose of slowly charging and maintaining voltage in a vehicle's battery while the motor is running). Another more relevant or similar comparison would be that of a wind or water turbine. These turbines use the forces of nature to rotate an electric motor in the opposing direction of when it is being fed electricity. This causes the electric motor(s) to produce a small current of electricity in the direction of the power source, as opposed to the vehicles primary function, which draws electricity from the power source to spin the motors (wheels). The force of nature that is providing regenerative electricity in this circumstance is gravity, in combination with the forward momentum produced solely by the force of your leg and foot pushing the board to maintain forward motion, thus keeping the wheels spinning without utilizing any electricity at all. Gravity and muscle are the only two providers of Labor in this situation. BTW...... Don't quote me on the regenerative braking feature, but I'm 90% confident that's what I have read in regards to the brakes on the SBX. SIDE NOTE: This regenerative braking concept isn't unique to the SBX. Regenerative braking is very very common amongst almost every current ESK8 available 💯🤙. Hope this covers your question, plus some lol.

[@donnyh3497]

Awesome video Kevin! You're crushing it on that thing. Your 180 and 360 slides are so smooth! Do you have the app? I'd like to know how many miles you have on your board. I just started going switch and doing 180 and 360s and my app says that I already have 48 miles on it!

[@BWT599]

Awesome vid, thank you brotha. Would you recommend having the foot bindings installed right away or ride without for a little bit? I've been snowboarding for 20 years and I esk8 and onewheel.

[@NewbTube69]

Hey BW, do you think the one wheel helps with your snowboarding in the off season?

[@BWT599]

@BeCoolHaveFun nah not at all. I prefer my Backfire Ranger X3 for road and light dirt or my Propel X4S2 with full suspension. Both are awesome for carving. If you want to really work on your snowboarding,.the Summerboard is the best to perfect riding fakie/switch. Granted, after a summer of heavy esk8, i still have to adjust myself to my actual snowboard as esk8 is still different from snowboarding. My OneWheel is my least favorite board. I've had way too many random nose dives and wrecked myself one time really bad on dirt with small rocks. Took me a month to recover. Also the one wheel isn't fast enough for me to keep up with my sons in the pits at motocross tracks. I end up losing them in the crowd of other bikes and scooters on the way to gate starts.

[@ReeferCheifer13]

I’ve never seen that camera angle from underneath the summerboard. Thats a sick POV

[@rawmark]

I really hope the company comes out with a better battery. Err, a higher mileage battery just like one wheel did with the pint x and gt models. A battery that gets 24 to 30 miles would be awesome!!!!!

[@rlcastaneda93]

Do you recommend putting M5 washers on the screws on top of the board to make sliding easier?

[@IzzyBittencourt]

That looks dope but hard lol i got a longboard for the summer so i dont lose my balance progress from snowboarding lol can’t wait to learn some longboard dancing haha

[@glub__blub]

If you really wanna bring steeze to the mountain next season try freeride. It helped me a lot with isolation the upper body from the lower body and just the speed you need for it is way more than on a snowboard to do basic maneuvers so once you’re on snow you can fly down the mountain busting eurocarves like it’s nothing cause snow hurts way less than asphalt

[@IzzyBittencourt]

@@glub__blub i tried to go down some small hills but i fell every time lmao i will keep trying, maybe i have the wrong deck for freeride, or probably im not good enough yet lol

[@ford24680]

This looks seriously sick. Do you have an affiliate link or anything like that? May very well pick one of these up in the next little bit.

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Thanks! There’s a link to the board in the description.

[@SpencerjConley]

Does it help your snowboarding?

[@luisg1653]

Looks like so much fun! Falling might get complicated with those holders but looks like they might release. Are you still skating too?

[@razrfish]

Kevin is spot on - the summerboard is easier to ride with the sky hooks, than without. They really give you good leverage and you feel locked in and in control, to bail, I just practiced without moving jumping off in all different directions, I've only had a couple falls where I slid out, but none where I was stuck in the binding/hooks and wiped. Basically very easy to bail, just practice jumping off bringing your feet toward the middle.

[@queeny5613]

This looks soo cool

[@pascalmom4956]

Amazing stuff Kevin, have you tried the onewheel? Do you have a preference for that summerboard?

[@rawmark]

I have a one wheel. In fact, I have a gt on order. The one wheel is a lot of fun but a different ride and nowhere as fun to ride as a summerboard! Just different. This board is truly as close as you will get to snowboarding if you don't have one!

[@Murdaoneproductions]

Does it give u the skills that cross over to snowboarding. just to keep u fresh and body balance consistent so 1st day back on the mountain u not totally stiff and gotta relearn everything ...lol

[@gre4tch]

Uhmm. I'd like to see you try onewheel, closest feel to snowboarding.. I feel like you'll enjoy carving more, especially on off-road.

[@vinsonspivey8749]

Dope. But how long till the wheels get flat spots on them??

[@JohnGrogans]

Awesome video man. Looks like a lot of fun to ride.😁

[@dericflairmultiverse4952]

did you use a GoPro for the under the board camera?

[@brianp8148]

So you have your main two drive wheels that provide the movement, would it make sense to tighten down the normal skateboard wheels to give you more of an edge type feeling? They should still spin, but with some restriction, like a brake.

[@razrfish]

I mentioned in response to another post - the edge wheels spin and slide, the trucks work like skateboard trucks, so when you press more on them (tilting the board like a normal skateboard) they enhance the 'carve' part of the turn versus the slide. The edge wheels and surface you're riding on depending on how rough or slick it is, and how hard your edge wheels are give you more or less 'sticky' in the slide or carve. I put a little softer wheel, and a faster bearing, and they feel great on texas roads as well as smooth paved parking lots and walkways. It's surprising how well the board does going over brick pavement or cobblestone, you can actually ride on most anything, not just on super smooth perfect asphalt roads.

[@aaalllen]

I got to try out a snowskate... given where the balance/tilt points are, wouldn't that be more comparable to a summerboard?

[@j.m.3643]

Love it!

[@buystuff9804]

Do you still ride if so is there a video? I used to have one few years ago ~

[@hansdampf1968]

Is there are big difference between freeboards and such summerboards when it comes to the construction? Thinking about DIY one myself out of an regular freeboard

[@GhostOfTheMtns]

Depends on the model of Freeboard.

[@quinnfoster1234]

You can try. I made a powered Castor design.

[@RocksNClocks]

Awesome, I heard these are notoriously unreliable. The premise is amazing though, let us know how it holds up. Looks like mad fun.

[@RavenSungOfficial]

I want one but availability is nay here in Japan sad.

[@Kun_Jutsu]

How long will it take for the tires to be worn down? I saw, you left quite a trail on that switch :D

[@Ghostyfrost9688]

not long lol

[@emoservedwithfries]

how was the ware and tare of of the standard wheels? the wing wheels

[@gleeknomatterwhat8958]

Hi ty for this, and second what is the point of the typical skate wheels is that for blacks like to not fall off of It?

[@juloojones5985]

Can you do manual with it ?

[@tj4938]

Hell yeah proper PPE will take you a long way kids.

[@titaniumghost6263]

How do you stop, especially when going down a hill?

[@budthebusker]

Really Great Video.. Thank You.

[@steveokay8810]

What's the wear like on the truck-mounted wheels ? Seems like they skid around a lot.

[@Ghostyfrost9688]

fast lol

[@babyspaghettio]

What determines how fast you go?

[@SnowboardProCamp]

There’s a remote control that you use to control the speed.

[@razrfish]

As Kevin responded, the remote has a wheel to vary your acceleration, but you also have an infinite number of settings using the IOS/ANDROID app. You bluetooth to the ESC (Electronic Speed Control) and you can completely vary the acceleration curve, breaking curve in an infinite number of ways. Very easy to set it up to not rocket itself right out from under you. Or when you're a 'pro' you can make it a bat out of hell.

[@iyawnis]

This looks cool! Then I clicked on the link and almost chocked at the price.

[@lillywolf5973]

Great video have you ever tried a onewheel? It's the closest thing to riding powder.

[@thedaveevans]

Whistler has nothing on that majestic parking lot.

[@ramensoup762]

Seems like a fun snowboarding alternative but expensive

[@Anthonylococo1]

bro i want it so bad for my birthday that's coming up, but its way to expensive

[@NashPrieur]

How fast is it?

[@chadhansen5057]

First time skateboarding?

[@PabloTheThinker]

How would this compare to the One Wheel?

[@razrfish]

A onewheel doesn't replicate the slide turn concept of a snowboard. You don't get the mechanics of snowboarding and the practice on a one wheel doesn't translate to snowboarding like a summerboard does.

[@JaiPandit1989]

Where to buy this

[@rickeyxiong3242]

I bought a summerboard too its so hard to ride it.

[@Summerboard]

summerboard.com/training go through our new training series - I guarantee you'll shred within 3 hours by following those instructions :D

[@donnyh3497]

Does anyone else feel like one of the wheels locks up for a second every now and then? It feels like about once every 10 minutes or so a wheel locks and skids for a second and it sounds just like when something goes under the wheel of a shopping cart only it happens with perfectly clean surfaces and nothing to go under the wheels. I'm thinking maybe I take too much weight off of the front wheel sometimes and it swivels sideways and then grabs traction again. It doesn't throw me but I bail out of instinct.

[@er1115]

Are you still riding this?

[@andersbodin1551]

so its an eletric freeboard?

[@bcmtb8652]

U should try a olly

[@Serena4226]

You can definitely tell he's not in the US. In the US some jerk would call the cops on him within five minutes of riding on that.

[@flisms]

I try not to hate, I really do...but if you are a snowboarder (which you are), looking for that snowboard feeling....Freebord, period.

[@MrAleB305]

This is a freebord except it does not require going downhill.

[@liamquigg4042]

Make a new video

[@eskipo]

So they paid you to review it?

[@howdyitsdavid]

100%

[@conniecutcliff9746]

Oh wow, big difference from the last video.

[@liamquigg4042]

When’s your Next Video

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Hi Liam!

[@WeTheNorth519]

👍🏽

[@MiguelSanchez-hy5wv]

Hey, I was thinking you should make a collab with all of the big snowboarding KZbinrs and make a video. Please like so he can see

[@SgtTonka]

U forgot the other half of the foot holds

[@lucacampigotto4775]

I'm looking for a second hand one, does anyone sell it? 😜😆

[@esogemz1375]

I thought this was cool and almost considered until I saw the hand held controller 🤦🏽‍♂️ I’ll stick to my OneWheel 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@julianfsg6966]

I really think you need to try the Onewheel. That actually feels like a snowboard! Cheers!

[@Ghostyfrost9688]

This is way closer to snowboarding lol

[@misar7]

Looks awesome but the price is outrageous.

[@axigon6904]

Actually on the cheaper end of high end electric boards.

[@misar7]

@@axigon6904 not really

[@axigon6904]

@@misar7 how much does a one wheel xr cost again? Lacroix? Kaly? Evolve gt?

[@AaronAders]

@@axigon6904 true that!

[@crossup13]

music comes in wayyyy too loud, it throws off the video. Just a small production comment. the music itself is okay but it should be background, you shouldn't even notice it unless you listen for it, not something that hits you in the face every time the presenter stops talking. It was irritating enough I almost shut the vid off a few times when it would come up, it's extremely jarring in my headset.