My Supercharged 3800 GT Fiero - ALL ENGINE and BODY MODS + IDLING WALK AROUND!

[@roberttiffany3322]

I've been contemplating finding a Fiero to build and do a 3800 swap in, and now I'm seeing all kinds of videos lately on KZbin on them! I'm not sure if I want to mess with the supercharger or not, I guess it depends on how much money I want to throw at this thing. Looks like you might be a good source for information when it comes time for my build though, I'm definitely subscribing to your channel!

[@FieroAustin]

well you can slap one of these in as-is and it's amazing. and then slap an easy smaller pulley on and it's even better. took me a month to do a drop in swap, no mods. check out the instructions: www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/139530.html

[@co1bateman]

Please don't stop making your videos

[@FieroAustin]

not planning on it :)

[@Friedbrain11]

I used to repair the tachs and speedos from Fieros. A long time ago though LOL. Always wanted a Fiero with a supercharged engine.

[@FieroAustin]

Really... do you know where i can get a replacement coil this day and age?

[@michaelshanewilcher634]

Always enjoy

[@FieroAustin]

Thanks!

[@rangerjones5531]

Way more style and class than any hellcat hood ride 🍺🇺🇸

[@FieroAustin]

lol right on

[@relaxwithme786]

nice build

[@FieroAustin]

thanks!!

[@sp33dracerx2]

Thank you for the content

[@FieroAustin]

You bet!

[@rangerjones5531]

Very cool ride, looks like you did an amazing job on this build. I haven’t seen one in the wild since way before the covid lock downs.🇺🇸

[@FieroAustin]

thanks man! Could always be better! they're rare to see. getting rarer too.

[@freeasabird6019]

GREAT Video! Thank you! I am looking forward to your next one!

[@FieroAustin]

Thank you!

[@zibafairchild6185]

I just bought an 87 with the 3800 na, runs like a turd at the moment. I came here looking for a good idea of setting up an air box. Not many solutions out there, but yours looks the cleanest so far.

[@FieroAustin]

Thanks & congrats! Mine is far from the cleanest; most people just don't videotape theirs. Check this out kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHmUo2djZalmfrs Also, I do have a cold air intake, parts: amzn.to/3AQOpfR & amzn.to/3PdVoUu

[@Toys4Life]

Nice vid - tons of GREAT info!

[@FieroAustin]

Thanks!

[@Templeman420]

I love it

[@FieroAustin]

Thank you!

[@bryco32]

Need to fab up an equal length headpipe setup on it! The best thing I ever did for my 3800 L67 swap. (other than the a/c) Sounds so much better! My YT page has the sound clips. You already have the trunk cut out. Go for it!

[@FieroAustin]

yeahhhh... i'm not too worried about it though. not a whole lot of room in there. Do you have pics? that does sound a LOT better.

[@bryco32]

@@FieroAustin yeah I have pics on the 3800 fiero swap fb page. It uses the same amount of room as your current setup. All fit in lower half of trunk area. I have. Floor panel I fabbed up to be able to utilize the upper portion of the trunk if I want. It worked out great.

[@FieroAustin]

@@bryco32 Could you send a link?

[@CarputingYT]

Great video this is a topic I was really hoping for. I love seeing any & all Fiero Content. I feel like Toys4Life C5 is the father of 3800 Fieros on KZbin and you're the son lol. You guys both have some awesome content on this stuff. I would love to see some videos of it just driving around town and whatnot or on the highway. Does it get many reactions from people? Where I live in Canada cars like Fiero's are rare so I want to preserve mine (mine's been in the shop forever.... almost done) Thanks for the in depth video on the car keep up the content

[@FieroAustin]

Thanks! I watch Toys4Life too. The past few weeks I've been back surprisingly not getting that many views. My older fiero videos have a ton though. Seems like KZbin is back at squashing smaller channels or something. Almost 100% of my feedback is overwhelmingly positive though.

[@Toys4Life]

Hey, are trying to say I look older than FieroAustin? J.K. Thanks for the kind words- I like checking out FieroAustin vids as well because he is OCD about the details and is a good guy!

[@FieroAustin]

@@Toys4Life a blessing and a curse lol. thanks!

[@chiwalker7325]

Those Doors though.

[@FieroAustin]

lol. thanks man

[@christopherzimmerman1623]

I don't know if you will respond to this or not, but I want to go on a little rant just to see what you think... So I'm still new to owning and being part of the fiero community and was wondering where the best place to buy aftermarket parts or would most of them being need to be made by myself and what's the first thing that should be change/upgrade to with the stock setup.... Anything engine wise I was going to maybe start looking in to putting a b16a. but other that that I really don't know what to truly do other than wanting to make it street spec with I was thinking of pushing around 250-350 out of the honda engine with a turbo... and wanting to do body stuff as well but don't really have a look that I want to go for

[@FieroAustin]

You've come to the right place. This video is a good starting point and you can find all parts in the description or here:www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/139530.html#p16 also Check out these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIC2mpWdaM98abM facebook.com/profile.php?id=100054604623435 facebook.com/fierofiberconcepts/

[@GR8gt07]

Austin I have a VS cam and wanting to add 1.65 roller rockers. What length pushrods would I need. Currently running stock length. Thanks

[@FieroAustin]

I really can't tell you because you NEED to measure them yourself. Every setup is different. Please see this video and its description - kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWWeaqbbbhnjpY and see this product from ZZP: zzperformance.com/products/zzp-pushrod-length-checker?_pos=1&_sid=b9d18327f&_ss=r

[@beaumontracer1640]

Love that you're back making content on this car! I'm following along as I do one of my own. Is it necessary to upgrade the torque convertor with the cam you're using? And how street-friendly is that cam? I was thinking of choosing a slightly less radical one as mine will be mostly street driven. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

[@FieroAustin]

Thanks! For the torque converter, it totally depends on what you want out of your car. I had a converter from a Bonneville (heavier car) and it was terrible for the fiero (20mph idle speed, without changing camshaft). If you want to drag race it, you really need the highest stall aftermarket torque converter you can find. Since I drive mine daily, I put the highest stall OEM converter in there. It's not that high stall but it definitely works good for dailying it around. Converter is in the build thread (JXFM). Honestly the XPZ camshaft is not bad on the street. It doesn't have a stupid lobey idle (116 LSA). Check out my modification selection chart in the build thread. It does shift the peak power band up into the 7,000 RPM range though, so it doesn't REALLY make sense for street driving relative to other camshafts. If you want to street drive, try a camshaft with higher torque at a lower RPM (ZZP VS?) or just forget it and put 1.9 rockers with the stock camshaft and call it a day, which is much cheaper and 1/10th the work.

[@beaumontracer1640]

@@FieroAustin Thanks for the reply. I was considering the XP-RPM. I don't really want to do much to the heads other than port match perhaps. I'm intrigued by the 1.9 rocker idea. What sort of gain would one expect from that mod? It sure does sound a lot easier. I'd like to get 350-375hp. The plan is cam, e85, pulley, injectors. Following along with your build specs minus head work (my engine doesn't have 50000 miles-so I want to leave it alone) I'll check out your convertor in the thread. I was eyeing the ZZP ones, but they're kinda pricey.

[@FieroAustin]

​@@beaumontracer1640 XP would be a great choice. Best cam you can get with no machining required or anything. It is VERY similar to XPZ, almost identical except slightly less intake lift. It does require quite a lot of $$ supporting mods though. Rockers are so easy though. With 1.9 rockers you could easily maintain emissions compliance if that is important in your state. They are bolt-on and could be done in an hour if you know what you are doing. I am not sure what gains you would pick up but i suspect it would be slightly under a VS cam or an Intense IS1X cam, as it has similar lift. Your choice man! If you want to casually mess around go for the rockers... too easy to pass up and no headache at all.

[@MercedesE63S-AMG]

Am i missing the link for the two vent side panels?

[@FieroAustin]

Hey my exact ones aren't really made anymore, I think I mentioned that, but here is what I could find: www.fierosidescoops.com/

[@emmettpelzer314]

Where did you find the replacement gt lenses

[@FieroAustin]

Keith Goodyear... They are no in production any longer. See You can probably find a pair for sale here though. ebay.us/hPyHD6

[@sp33dracerx2]

How do you delete the balance shaft..

[@FieroAustin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2ivZmuQoJKJitE

[@eeepeeep5206]

Nice, Is there anywhere I can find a parts cost to do all this or a best guess. I have a 1987 Fiero in very good original condition bought from 1 owner.

[@FieroAustin]

Are you talking about the engine? Depends... I think what you see in the car was about $7000 but i did my first swap for $1850 without changing the camshaft (build 1 in here - www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/139530.html#p5)

[@eeepeeep5206]

@@FieroAustin Hi, yes the engine. Thanks for that price. Helps me with decision making for sure.

[@johnnybaker3751]

Please help me find a engine wiring harness I have a 2001 GTP SC 3800. I have exhausted all my resources. If you can help I can’t thank you enough . This has been a nightmare for me. Thanks for anything you might could help me with

[@FieroAustin]

Hey I would advise you search for engines instead of harness, and then call the junkyard and ask if they have the harness on the engine still. You will get a lot more hits Here is a search every engine in the country that is non-interchangeable (2001 only, skim through here until you find a supercharged 3.8 2001 GTP), distance is from Chicago. - car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?userSearch=exact&userPID=1000&userLocation=USA&userIMS=&userInterchange=%5B%7C%7Br&userSide=&userDate=2001&userDate2=2001&dbModel=61.11.1&userModel=Pontiac%20Grand%20Prix&dbPart=300.1&userPart=Engine&sessionID=13000000491454403&sURL=car-part.com&userPreference=miles&userZip=60007&userLat=42.0131000&userLong=-87.9972000&userIntSelect=1248175&userUID=0&userBroker=&userPage=1&iKey= Keep checking in on this page too, it is year specific harnesses, not engines, but I don't see any right now. - car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?userSearch=exact&userPID=1000&userLocation=USA&userIMS=&userInterchange=%5B%7C%7Br&userSide=&userDate=2001&userDate2=2001&dbModel=61.11&userModel=Pontiac%20Grand%20Prix&dbPart=648.1&userPart=Wiring%20Harness%20(Engine)&sessionID=13000000491453076&sURL=car-part.com&userPreference=price&userZip=60007&userLat=42.0131000&userLong=-87.9972000&userUID=0&userBroker=&userPage=1&iKey= As a last resort, this would take more time to search through to find a GTP, but this is every interchangeable harness (might not be the exact same, so beware, but I believe a 1998-2002 GTP harness would fit with little to no issues) - car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?userSearch=int&userPID=1000&userLocation=USA&userIMS=&userInterchange=%3EAC%40EN&userSide=&userDate=2001&userDate2=2001&dbModel=61.11.1.1&userModel=Pontiac%20Grand%20Prix&dbPart=300.1&userPart=Engine&sessionID=13000000491455076&sURL=car-part.com&userPreference=grade&userZip=60007&userLat=42.0131000&userLong=-87.9972000&userIntSelect=1248175&userUID=0&userBroker=&userPage=1&iKey=

[@FieroAustin]

PARTS IN THIS VIDEO: NOTE: I do run the build 2 list at www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/139530.html#p7, with the below in addition: 5% Overdrive Balancer Supercharger 8-rib amzn.to/3QzWBFp AC Compressor Bypass Pulley amzn.to/3RUQtZA Pulley vid - SEE DESCRIPTION FOR PARTS kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5TTd4F7Yrmhers Chin spoiler vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5nNf5Rtf9SIg80 Slim popup headlights kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpakhmmeps-gerc 1988 Headlight Rebuild Kit www.fierostore.com/Product/Detail.aspx?s=88220%20%20%20%20%20PAIR&d=273&p=1 Radiator [URL=amzn.to/3bIcprb]amzn.to/3bIcprb[/URL] Radiator install vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/ronJd4urj8eHrK8 Brake Booster vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2mcl4edhJykbNE Stainless brake hoses www.fierostore.com/Product/Detail.aspx?s=56098&d=379&p=1 Wiper Arm amzn.to/3K2h19K Wiper Arm amzn.to/3YbUbT3 Wiper Arm vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5jEaX-IaN-CY7M 22-24" Drivers wiper on 20" Passengers wiper Front Tires amzn.to/3o9kgRg Tire Paint Vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKuThp-arbV3aLs Tire paint amzn.to/3PEeSS3 88 stiffer shocks (could understeer) amzn.to/3RIEQ8x 84-87 stiffer shocks (could understeer) amzn.to/3Y0sX1z KYB Excel-G Rear Struts amzn.to/3oahsTQ KYB Strut Boot/Bump Stop amzn.to/3zizTMs Strut install vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3e4mKV4iZZ-i8U Front Suspension install vid TBD! 1988 1" Lowering Ball Joints rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=158 88 1" (closer to 7/8") longer sway bar end links for amzn.to/3RFAfUJ Poly Front Sway Bar Bushings amzn.to/3odTC9O Poly Rear Sway Bar Bushings amzn.to/3yLhgQ5 Vertical Door vid - SEE DESCRIPTION FOR PARTS kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp6rf5WAgsSpb5I Steering wheel vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXeqm4hvm8-GadE Turbo Tachometer from sunbird vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp3LYXV6hsSFh5I Speakers rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=300 Brighter Lighbulbs rodneydickman.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=brighter Side scoops (not exact in video) - www.fierosidescoops.com/ Rear Tires 235/60r15 amzn.to/3PfLkKL Sail Panel ebay.us/BYGak0 Foxbody mustang hood scoop ebay.us/hCT4Js Trunk Shock Kit rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=113 Shifter Cable Repair Kit rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=338 Not mentioned in video: NEW Drag race modification vid - SEE DESCRIPTION FOR PARTS kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmHFaKSbmp6CpJI EGR Delete Removed engine bay insulation ZZP Aluminum Vented Cooling Transmission Oil Pan ebay.us/DoQ4Jh Coilovers groundcontrolstore.com/products/coilover-conversion-kit-84-87-pontiac-fiero-rear?_pos=1&_sid=a822b8a18&_ss=r Battery Quick Disconnect amzn.to/3kOGXfF Armrest www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/fiero/showThread.cgi?forum=4&thread=055991 Poly tie rod boots www.fierostore.com/Product/Detail.aspx?s=57209%20%20%20%20%20RED&d=324&p=1 Modular Pulley System smoothflowpulleys.com/3800_MPS.html]smoothflowpulleys.com/3800_MPS.html Aluminum 8-rib Pulley Set smoothflowpulleys.com/8_rib_L67_idlers.html]smoothflowpulleys.com/8_rib_L67_idlers.html NOTE: CHANGING TIRE DIAMATER REQUIRES CHANGING PULSES PER MILE IN COMPUTER! 3800sc Instructions www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/139530.html 3800sc Instructions MOBILE drive.google.com/file/d/1wqUJdMZ1XqcKJzC-2ZzbvLYMYE3QbmVqAmazon Recommendation Store for 3800s/Fieros/Tools amzn.to/3hNViaa eBay affiliate (use & I get paid) ebay.us/4gTj2A Donate to me www.paypal.com/donate/?business=8AFWKBTBVSKTJ Join channel membership kzbin.infojoin Subscribe kzbin.info Consulting on Facebook facebook.com/FieroAustin/

[@jimmyjordan9628]

What was the cost of the swap

[@FieroAustin]

Totally depends. Can be $2500 bare minimum if you make everything yourself, or upwards of $3500 if you buy a lot, $4500 for light mods, or after heavy mods up to $7000-14000. Check out my new customizable build sheet and play around with the options - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1woHLYVX3I_bH5SfzKmlZAEX-ujQ9ylTN5AZgkhn7-pU/edit#gid=0