My Thoughts: Jeffree Star and James Charles *a rant*

[@smokey_glow]

Hi friends! I just really want to reiterate that I 100% understand the speculation regarding these texts! I don't want anyone to feel like I'm trying to force you to believe they are real because in reality this situation is incredibly sketchy and it comes down to opinions because the facts are so weird. I hope that makes sense and I so appreciate the civil debates that have been happening so far! Love you guys always 💕

[@DesertMermaid]

James Charles was 9! When Marlena started in the beauty industry #NoShadeNoTeaJustFacts

[@smokey_glow]

Right!

[@EllieBellie_111]

#prosbeforehoes

[@orangecloud8820]

Sister was still figuring his sexuality out when Marlena took off the beauty world by her famous MAC eyeshadow dupes, everybody on KZbin had her eyeshadows. James probably didn’t even know what eyeshadows are back then and now he’s just being disrespectful like he’s the pioneer. I gotta be honest, I had some similar documentary ideas about the beauty community as well, and I’m sure a lot of others do, but Netflix REACHED out TO MARLENA, they didn’t reach out to James it means they don’t recognize him or thinks he’s too dramatic, they probably reached out to Shane as well but Shane denied, James is acting as if he’s so unique special and talented. BS, can’t even do a proper eyebrow.

[@cynthiaisako]

Facts !!! I can't stand him.

[@hi29189]

James screams so much about being business savvy but publicly explodes online about everything! Literally so unprofessional and if I did that at my job I’m sure I’d be fired.

[@lindseybailes9558]

You would be. I used to work in nursing. You can get assaulted by a patient and if you try to protect yourself you can get fired. Yeah....I wish I could scream online all day and make half what they make.

[@AFFTFOMSICHTS]

Right!!! But had the nerve to tell Jeffree to stop going on Snapchat/twitter rants!!! When he said that to jeffree I was like are you serious dude?? You go on unprofessional rants all the time. He’s one of those super young kids who think they know everything but actually doesn’t know shit

[@krystalfukinmarie757]

Exactly. We'd be fired before we even finished our overly emotional entitled ranting, and I work for my husband 😂

[@stacischuck3844]

@@krystalfukinmarie757 lmao-!-

[@my_oh_my]

I'm just so tired of James and other "top beauty gurus" thinking that they alone are the beauty community. Give me a break. I don't watch any of the "big gurus" that I guess would come to mind when a random hears the term. From my perspective the beauty community isn't crumbling. The thing that's crumbling is the "boujie, fake woke, I'm so relatable" facade these "big youtubers" try to put on.

[@d0ubl3]

Myisha Bradham it says a lot that he’s so pissed with Marlena, you have to wonder why? Maybe because she touch on some sensitive issues like revealing the level of entitlement and fakery, and specially how many of them are exclusively in it for the money.

[@ohjalapeno]

Myisha Bradham yes! Preach!

[@AnikoVargaMakeup]

They are not even the ‘big gurus’. There are a surprising number of people doing makeup/beauty videos with the same amount of followers but they are just not part of the drama, not going to Bora Bora with Tarte and not doing videos with other KZbinrs to grow

[@judneg06]

Myisha Bradham I’m just tired of boys wearing makeup with drama channels pretending to be beauty channels. If you are a company owner like Jeffrey then sell your brand like he does. But if you are selling products for another company through sponsorship than disclose you are getting paid. We are also consumers who watched product suggestions along with tutorials. No one wants to be fooled into buying crappy products because influencers are not being transparent.

[@suk4honesty]

My handbag costs more than your rent but I’m just like you sis! Come on relatability! I’m getting paid your yearly salary to review this product so of course I’m being 100% honest! Wig snatched!

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

James was being so vocal about not being paid the $60K For sponsorships, so, he’s more than likely being paid that and more. Maybe that’s why he said it’s no ones business to know what we are being paid! So, he’s probably being paid that and more! He came off as an entitled brat!🌺🌺🌺

[@sparkleite]

Ughhh what gets me about the James Charles situation is that he assumes that Marlena is out spilling tea on the beauty community how much people are getting paid in this documentary 🙄 like it could be as simple as building a brand from being an influencer

[@soaringangel5316]

Also what you said about James is so true he can’t take any form of constructive criticism or any form of criticism without lashing out on social media. Like watching his collab videos he easily calls out like other gurus for their mistakes or behavior but once the tables turn he becomes so defensive and the fact that he thinks Netflix stole the idea is ridiculous it takes months to a year to produce a documentary when he literally told everyone about his documentary a week or two ago there’s no way that could have been stolen and the way Marlena handled the situation it kind of just shows that there are so few influencers and members of the beauty community who behave like actual adults

[@nicole_4939]

Everyone is somewhat biased, we all have our own personal perception of the world, that’s psychology 101 🙄 James is beyond disrespectful and I’m disgusted by all the influencers who were agreeing with him bashing Marlena on twitter

[@whoisthisapril5672]

Nicole Rodgers PREACH!!!!!💯💯💯

[@blueeyedbeauty2496]

Nicole Rodgers SAME! They all have no respect for Marlena who paved the way for people like them! It’s so gross!

[@purtykatz]

Nicole Rodgers Shane Dawson charmed in too. he is becoming a mean girl after spending So much time with Jeffrey

[@judneg06]

The comments were down right nasty even other influencers jumped in on the James bandwagon. It was disgraceful.

[@cloud_lost_in_thought]

I was sooo disappointed about the other influencers too....mykie from glam&gore, for one, I did not expect ro actually comment on his post and agree with him....also, I’ve only seen really big influencers (1M+ subs) having issues with marlena....or was that just me?

[@mommajay911]

I'm not usually active on Twitter but this James vs Marlena drama got me going a little. James is acting like an entitled spoiled brat. He is disrespectful and rude. I'm sorry but that's just not acceptable no matter who you are. I like how you pointed out that Marlena might have a 2 minute cameo in a Netflix doc. One tweet I put out was how does anyone know when someone at Netflix decided to do this type of doc? How long has it been in the works? Yes Marlena said they approached her weeks ago but I'm pretty sure it's been a lot longer than that since the concept was made. Second, I don't think a Netflix employee has been spying on James or watching KZbin channels trying to get the next big idea and get it going before some influencer could. And finally ... James is showing his age and immaturity in that he is tweeting repeatedly to Netflix and bashing Marlena. Maybe I'm too old to know this but if you want to approach a company don't you do it in writing like an email or letter?? And at least in my mind if someone wanted to work with my company and I see them disrespecting someone so much, I would think twice about putting their name on anything with mine.

[@nicelydone4846]

James is getting so annoying. What am I saying? He was always annoying.

[@jamiestewart1223]

Completely agree with you!

[@judneg06]

Erin Boyd He did apologize to Marlena he admitted it on Twitter he also said he was immature and wrong.

[@mommajay911]

@@judneg06 he did after this video and this part of the conversation happened. Further down I have another comment mentioning his Twitter apology.

[@spookymu1der]

i kno marlena kind of came out of left field lately but if we’re gonna have the OG great makeup influencers coming out of the woodwork i’m gonna NEED michelle phan to make a dramatic comeback as well

[@smokey_glow]

Oh my god YESSSSS!!!!

[@vanessarayfox]

James gets WAY more than $60,000 for sponsored videos.

[@orangecloud8820]

vanessa ray sister was eager to buy a house and decorating his house LMAO, gotta secure the bag as DJ khalid would say 😂

[@cloud_lost_in_thought]

Right?! It’s a known fact that Morphe throws money at influencers like him to push their products and codes and shit. To say nothing of other brand sponsorships he’s done...

[@neshapr]

Come on, we all knew that deep down he was still a racist. To confront racism you need therapy and education, and a change of attitude. And he has never changed his attitude along the years. When you where raised by racist people and a racist environment is hard to stop it. If he really wants to stop it, he needs professional guidance. And to this date, I doubt he will change. I don't think he hates POC, I think he just uses racist slangs when he had issues with POC.

[@blueeyedbeauty2496]

And what’s funny is Marlena tweeted that he actually makes more than $60k! I guess that why he was so defensive!

[@MsHappypeanut]

Kimberly Thorne I was shooketh! Like waaaauw

[@janeway7953]

He also called it Product Placement which I think means you don’t have to disclose . Is that how he skirts the law

[@sydneym6222]

what you said about james is everything i feel but i couldn’t put into words. he and i are the same age and i had to stop watching him because i just feel like he is incredibly entitled. and if it doesn’t go his way than it’s just wrong. if your views don’t line up with his than he just sees it as wrong, not a differing opinion.

[@Miiriiss88]

James Charles is just a mess and I don’t care if people put that on his age because it’s not about age it’s about his state of mind and just thinking he is so entitled and that he can’t do no wrong.

[@kurodimites2568]

You know. I think the reason I have such a hard.time liking James is because... we are the same age. But have completely different maturity levels. I am not knocking down his success but damn. He was 9 years old when makeupgeek was created( or Marlena influencer wise) was started. Compared to Marlena on the beauty influencer time line he is basically such a new influencer if that makes sense.

[@TvNetJunkie]

I do believe that Daved scissor hands is a sleazy opportunistic snake; and I dislike Jackie Aina however if the text messages turn out to be real Jeffree is not to be trusted ever again. And yes; I can imagine him going that low

[@suk4honesty]

He calls women rats on twitter at the drop of a hat, he’s definitely that low.

[@mikoism]

James is a child and he continuously reveals that. That video of James telling Jeffree that he's in too much drama was so rich. Totally pot meet kettle. From the totally overrated singing to the entitlement to the Baby Jaclyn Morphe-pushing to the kissing Kylie's ass to the bitterness about not being fawned over by Fenty Beauty to the ebola tweets to the nonstop childish competitiveness with others, James has revealed himself to be quite the petulant little diva. When James put on that prosthetic makeup and was shocked to discover that people were mean to people not considered conventionally beautiful but never took the time to really address discrimination, I knew he was fake woke. I'm hoping Queen Antonio isn't fazed by James stealing his editing style and continues thriving and eventually snatches his wig right the heck off. Time for new blood in the beauty community.

[@marthagmc]

James Charles' pettiness was distasteful enough that I unsubbed. Love your take on it, as usual. You're a smart, well spoken woman and I love it when you get ranty because I usually feel the same. Hope you're having a great weekend Hannah.

[@nicelydone4846]

James charles thinks ariana grande's God is a woman song is written about him. Hes so full of himself. I tried to like him. He bothers me. So I guess I'm biased on james 😋

[@kikismiley11]

Wow... 😂 how do you know that? Sounds just like him

[@hi29189]

James literally thinks every thing is owed to him. Sooo entitled

[@mysterygirl777]

GIRL HOW UR HAIR SO LUSCIOUS IM JEALOUS SITTING WITH MY WEAVE

[@UnpleasantSim]

I wish Jeffree would just.. be a decent person. He has some incredible makeup products (which I stopped purchasing after his past came to light), but he’s such an awful person. I genuinely believe that. His history is grim, and it seems like that hasn’t left him. It’s unfortunate. * I also do want to say this.. I don’t agree with what his ex stylist has done. I think he’s an awful person as well. Clearly Jeffree trusted this man. He trusted him enough to say these things via text.. that’s a lot of trust. Let’s be honest. Jeffree isn’t stupid, so he must have put a lot of faith into this person.

[@croshaide3168]

James is truly showing his age he had a freakin temper tantrum on Twitter because a brand owner is part of a documentary if he thinks he can do better maybe he should use his brand deal money to fund his own documentary. The beauty industry is big enough that they probably wouldn’t even have that much overlap. Seems like he’s sister salty.

[@croshaide3168]

Ps love your eye look

[@mommy2rae586]

Oh my Lord someone with the same first name as me! Lmfao sorry I've never seen someone with my first name! Hello fellow Shai! ❤️

[@dretheestallion7602]

Given by how much inconsistencies there are and by how easy the texts can be manipulated im not inclined to believe the texts are real. I can't just damn someone for something that i'm not sure of. But i can understand why someone wouldnt want to support him.

[@UnpleasantSim]

I’m coming back for comment #2 for the second half of this video 😂 Who does James think he is?! She’s been around since.. oh my God. Forever. I think she was the first beauty guru I ever watched. Whoever is handling this documentary did their research because that woman has been around for years. I suppose she was forgotten over time, but it doesn’t change the fact that she has had a long and overall successful career. She obviously knows what she’s talking about. The fact that he would even come for her is shocking. My God, he sounds ignorant. She was around before he even knew how to apply concealer.

[@peacheslenoir6862]

Black women TOLD you this guys was still racist but we kept getting shouted down, finally people can see he’s a racist and has not changed

[@serenitysbubble2384]

Black women are the most disrespected woman in the world that's why people don't care when we speak out 😑

[@hayleylongster4698]

Don't worry some of us pale asses still had your back

[@peacheslenoir6862]

Evan Gregory not as many who didn’t buy it, however this doesn’t negate what I said.

[@suk4honesty]

I’m Mexican and I was like damn I really can’t trust any of you freaks once everyone started to like him*

[@logic7753]

Hayley Longster ❤❤

[@taylorpreston2527]

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE TATI VIDEO! I haven’t seen much about it but I was like huhh??? 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@bradleonn]

Ugh my skin gets so gross when I'm sick to the point where I'm like ok cool I just look like this now, great. 😂

[@aprilromanek7548]

Omg so I actually just unsubscribed to James, because he had Nikita on his channel today. He pinned a comment that said something about an apology being accepted from them and to move on.... um no. Nikita never apologized to children that were victim/survivors of rape. I was a victim of rape, and a kidnapping, had to say that to clarify it was not my parents that abused me, and she did not apologize for her tweets in any way that I can ever forgive her. Am I the only one here in the social community that is still triggered by Nikita’s freaking pedophilia tweet! If I am God help me.

[@serenitysbubble2384]

You are brave and strong. I hope you're living your best life🤗

[@lindseybailes9558]

Does anyone wish Shane Dawson would have done the docuseries on Jeffree the way that he has approached the Jake Paul docuseries? Just me? I dunno, if he keeps w these docuseries, he needs to start in a place of neutrality w all of the people he is featuring. Yeah I'm a huge fan of documentaries, and I was saddened by how he approached the docuseries w Jeffree Star. And also w Graveyard Girl. Or maybe it's just me? Like I could tell Bunny had a huge closet and budget when she had her creepy closet as a film room and it was as big as my bedroom. Maybe it's just me being older, but come on. So I was disappointed in those two docuseries. I didn't watch the one on Tana Mongeau.

[@bfaerie1]

Oh he knows who Jake Paul is, I just think maybe he doesn’t know Jake personally.

[@AnikoVargaMakeup]

I didn’t watch the ones with Tana either. I couldn’t care less about her, even if it’s coming from Shane

[@farahkhan9827]

Aniko Varga Sameee!!!

[@zoeys1078]

Yes that would have been perfect especially because I think Jeffree is a master manipulator. He’s not what he seems to people that fan over him

[@cloud_lost_in_thought]

Zo Saboor right?! When the psychiatrist was talking about the traits of a sociopath, it made me think of jeffree a lil bit....I don’t think he really is a sociopath, but he his completely narcissistic...

[@sparkleite]

I love it when you do a grwm and talk about beauty drama!! Feels like I’m just chatting with one of my friends. Plus I always love your input and opinions of things. Feel better!

[@Heyitskrystal]

I have been so ready for a my thoughts video from you, I love them! People can think what they want about JS but I’m done. I was buying that he was sorry/ had changed but after ex-friend after ex-friend has said he’s racist I get it now, he doesn’t like me so I’ll support those who do. Every time you say documentary I giggle.

[@lauchzwiebel]

I can’t support people anymore. How call them self business savvy but actually they cheated and lied, that is what James Charles did. For example the black lipstick, the Ellen Show. I can’t support people anymore who put women down, that is what he did, refereeing to Marlena as “this woman“ she has a name and he knows her name pretty well. His twitts imply she has actively stolen his, idea. That is wrong He is crashing every conversation when it comes to, how much does influencer make. He did that on pretty pastel video. I can’t support people anymore who say, they are against drama and creating it. The video with Tati and James Charles was savages, preaching water drinking wine. There was no need for the topic but I knew something was going on and bam couple of days later the show down. Marlena is the enemy and the consumer. This is too much manipulation for my taste. Those influencer have a in person relation with the companies that they don’t have with there audience. That’s why they are biased. I don’t support people anymore who think they are above the law, they have to disclose sponsorship. James doesn’t what to do that. Because everyone is self explanatory in his mind. He doesn’t help the cause. I can’t support people who are money hungry, he fits all those criterias. I wanna support people who have character and integrity.

[@suk4honesty]

lauchzwiebel A lot of gay men think they somehow get a pass to be misogynistic

[@maggy_tv]

"Not thriving"... finally some relatable content!!

[@lG-gh3py]

And I think James is missing a big point in the whole “watch a whole bunch of reviews if you were tricked it’s cause you were a lazy consumer” bs. You know that brands make campaigns and multiple beauty gurus make videos for them, so if I watch a bunch of reviews and all of them say positive things cause they were sponsored and I don’t know that, it’s literally negates the whole “watch lots of reviews”

[@smokey_glow]

Yes!!! So true!!

[@TvNetJunkie]

Thomas Halbert mentioned that the P Louise eye shadow base saved the Jaclyn Hill Vault.

[@destiniiiii]

I have followed Jeffree since the MySpace days, I think he does a lot in the public eye to save face. But no one really knows who he really is. I never really thought of myself as a fan. Just kinda in the middle. I can see the texts as real, but the Scissorhand guy is really shady for the way he brought these texts to light. James Charles is just being petty. He’s jealous so he is discrediting her. Just like you said.

[@minamorgul]

“Maybe being friends with Shane *will help him be better*...” This didn’t age well lol

[@mariam.a.]

LOL wasn't James Charles still wearing diapers when Marlena already had a name on youtube, way before MUG was even founded! He may be successful, but he's still a child....and acting like one really won't help his cause.

[@divalicious4888]

In regards to the texts, I don't believe them cause of how sanders asked him to go through and show him the receipts on video chat and show step by step getting to those texts. Also, I don't think someone who at that point was screwed over by so many close friends by that point, would send those kinds of texts to someone where they will follow him forever. He might be outspoken and says things before he thinks about it, but he wouldn't say something like that where it will ruin his career. In regards to james, this is the person who got famous from editing his photo so it was fake. This is the person who sang in a video and got so butt hurt to go on on a snap chat rant to let us all know he didn't sing a wrong note because he edited his voice to be perfect. This person has proven he can't do makeup makeup as God as he can edit photos and can't sing. I can sing rings around him and I don't need to edit my voice. James is average trying to be more then, and it just isn't a thing. You're a basic human being like the rest of us, deal with it.

[@purtykatz]

Vincent Esposito in order to do that he will be sharing Jeffreys phone numbers . it's live so I don't know how he will block the number from showing. plus Sanders is asking to see the numbers. regardless of Sanders saying he has a connection with Jeffrey it could be different numbers that Celebrities reveal to different people. many of them have different lines to connect for privacy reasons. there could be legal problems here. Sanders should know this.

[@divalicious4888]

@@purtykatz true, but it still doesn't make sense to trust someone to say something like that so bluntly. I don't think he would say that to someone when he was screwed over so much already.

[@smokey_glow]

He's had a relationship with this person for a long time though. It seems like years of working together. Maybe he thought he could trust him?

[@divalicious4888]

@@smokey_glow yeah but look what happened with kat...that's ten years, a decade of friendship destroyed publically.

[@smokey_glow]

That's a good point too but do you think that would actually make someone never trust anyone ever again? Wouldn't that be difficult?

[@emilyb1333]

This literally made me cry i honestly thought he changed and i feel betrayed and I’m sad bc i feel like i can’t support him anymore

[@kristinaerickson2353]

Is it just me or did the Drama community go crazy. Dustin Daily and Peter Monn. I think Paige picked a side. TeaSpill and Here for the Tea with their big Jaclyn collab drama. Literally I want to stay subbed to these people but Im wanting to unsub.

[@rachelgrinnell]

Honestly, I have times where I like Jeffree and I have times where I think his terrible and insane... but that shit about Laura Lee hiring that stylist was such a stretch I bet he pulled every damn muscle in both his arms. I could see them being real, I could see them being fake. I dont really care, they are all shady when it comes down to it. I view the big "gurus" like I do politicians, I don't want any part of it.

[@hayleylongster4698]

Amen. All this shit is doing is confirming to me what I've thought for like the past five years: 90% of big YT influencers are trash.

[@emmapotts7128]

I feel like when it comes to Jeffree, ppl are very blinded by the makeup and the cars and the clothes. I think all the material things blind ppl from his past and from his mistakes and comments

[@BiggerBear]

“It’s on them to be smart consumers” sounds a lot like “manage your expectations”…. I’m noticing a theme.

[@NoName-rw5hj]

I agree with everything said in this video I'm in the middle leaning towards thinking the text are real because if david wanted to create doctored text, he could have made it look like what Jeffrey said In those conversations alot worse to completely fit his narrative. But realistically it does seem like things Jeffrey would say because he has a recent history of such (not just 10 yrs ago) and the time line of the dates fits in with what ever was going on at the time. it's like they could definitely be real but it doesn't help that David obviously has his own personal motives

[@zoeys1078]

UNBIASED GOD OF KZbin Hahahaha I burst out laughing. For once I don’t have anything to add because I agree with everything you said! James frustrates me so much. And I’m on the side of “I dislike Jeffree so much” hah. Also why is everyone assuming the documentary is about KZbin...the beauty industry is much bigger than KZbin aNd influencers and James’ ego is so gross.

[@cailin5309]

James Charles is such a child. All his collabs he shoots with other people he acts like he’s above them, bored, too good to be there, talks condescendingly. He always acts like he knows it all. He is showing signs of a corporate executive that doesn’t do shit besides sit in his office all day ontop of everyone else & act like he’s the only one there.

[@nicole_4939]

Either James is lying about never receiving $60,000 for a paid sponsorship or he’s getting scammed, he has 8.5 million subscribers and if only 1% of people buy the product he’s promoting and he gets $1 per sale, that’s $85,000 🐸☕️

[@kikyoufans]

New sub here! I've being watching your contents on and off for a while! Love your way of analyzing things! Let's make the subscriber number 10 thousand~~

[@DearSkylark]

i love hearing your opinions and thoughts on these types of situations, you're fair and kind and clear-headed about it and that's exactly what youtube needs more of lmao. otherwise, very glad to hear you're feeling better and this makeup look is stunning!!!

[@nunpho]

James Charles needs to watch this video

[@laurenshubert8284]

I can imagine Jeffree saying these things BUT I can’t imagine him being stupid enough to say those things after making his apology video. Regardless of whether or not Jeffree thinks these things, I just think he is too smart to say these things to people in writing, knowing that people are shady and fake. I just don’t think he is dumb enough, not that he doesn’t think that way.

[@Beebeebee111]

I just discovered this channel and I’m already OBSESSED I LOVE U QUEEN

[@mommajay911]

This cold/flu bug has been hitting everywhere. I had it last week. You are one of the best commentary channels that provide a fair platform.

[@awkwardliketrace]

Sorry you’ve not been well Hannah, and thanks for continuing to give us fab content :) 9k is literally round the corner! So excited for you🙆🏾 you deserve all the success you’ve had and much more, glad to be along for the ride

[@smokey_glow]

💕💕

[@kristinaerickson2353]

Dude the bug just hit and I do my makeup when Im sick. Its like this weird thing where I make myself look as good as possible to compensate for not feeling as good as possible

[@_joxlyn_]

The thing about the Jeffree situation that pisses me off is that he told Shane that the only time he used the N word was towards a white girl and he never used the word again. But (suppose the text are 100% real) it is obvious that he lied and came off a bit innocent. I was actually starting to like him and trust him (even purchased something from him) and now I feel disappointed and let down. And as far as the James situation goes, you practically said everything I was thinking. I lost a lot of respect for him, and that’s disappointing too.

[@jules9232]

I believe Jeffree could have said those things but I also think the situation is incredibly sketchy. I'll withhold too much judgement until the whole story unfolds. I don't understand the James Charles situation entirely but his tweets come across as condescending and arrogant.

[@rueroxanne972]

I’ve never liked Jeffree Star. I can’t believe the entitlement of James Charles.

[@Iheardyoulikeplants]

Mmm your drama videos are basically a soap opera recap to me and I love it! It is fascinating to see these players do things that aren't always great. Of course I feel bad for them when they mess up, but I really appreciate all the publicity and awareness they bring to issues that actually matter, like racism and scams and taking advantage of people.

[@nicelydone4846]

I'm one of those people in the middle. Jeffree seems like he has such a great vibe to him. At the time I was deciding I had Laura Lee's tweets in mind so in comparison maybe I felt jeffree wasnt as bad? Yet I totally see how all this can be true! Idk I'm not supporting him through views or buying makeup right now.

[@AnikoVargaMakeup]

I just found your channel, love your personality, keep up the good job 👌🏼

[@lianovic1187]

watching this in 2021.. all the things you said about James ruining his own career, shooting himself in the foot, and having an ego are true

[@celestecelestial90]

I really don’t care for any large influencers. I do think Christen Dominique is a nice lady, but other than that I think most of them are super boring to watch, they do boring looks and are entitled. Unless I really dislike them, I’ll watch some of them on occasion for the entertainment. I think Jaclyn Hill gives good makeup technique tips. I’m open to buying their makeup if it’s good and unique to my collection, but I’m not jumping up and down to purchase through affiliate links, their makeup if it’s not unique or watch all of their videos. I tried giving James a chance but had to unsubscribe after 2 weeks because he was coming off like he was better than other people his age because he’s already successful and wealthy. I don’t like how he put small influencers down and what he says didn’t make any sense to me. If I was a small influencer and had a channel, I would definitely unsubscribe. People think these influencers are so sweet, but they don’t see the shit they say and do on Twitter and Snapchat.

[@rachelmckeever9049]

I feel like Jeffree may have kept quiet initially because he’s trying to change... he talked a lot in Shane’s video about trying not to be so aggressive anymore and how that can make people think he’s too much

[@smokey_glow]

That's a good point. I just wonder if that was the approach, why try and drag Laura into it?

[@rachelmckeever9049]

Smokey Glow to be honest every if Jeffree is trying to change... he’s still got the fly off the handle aspect to him. In the wake of Laura coming back with that video and this happening I think he had kept it in and when someone asked he said something nasty because he was upset over everything. I don’t think that is right and I don’t think it has anything to do with Laura. I just sympathize with the fact that all these people live there lives under such scrutiny and knee jerk reactions often are used to characterize who they are as a person.

[@smokey_glow]

That's a totally fair opinion to have and that would make sense. I actually agree with you about the scrutinty thing too. That's why I try to only talk about bigger things. I couldn't imagine every tweet and snap being analyzed like that.

[@livestes]

I have always had hot/cold (cold now) emotions about Jeffree; James Charles is an entitled little kid who thinks he’s experienced the “struggle.” MORE IMPORTANTLY - How have I not seen your channel before? I actually love you. You’re so mature and well-spoken. Subbed 😊

[@cassiecastillo1980]

Honestly Shane should do a series about the beauty community. Now THAT would be an unbiased side.

[@smokey_glow]

Yes!!!

[@cynthiaisako]

You're extremely sensible. It's always funny for me to use "sensible" cause french is my first language and sensible means sensitive in french lol. I love listening to you. New subbie ! Love from Belgium x

[@BrookeCrochetsForU]

I am glad you have such an open mind about the JS situation as well. I would really be interested in what the ex-employee has on him. I want to know what type of person he is when the camera is off because that is the person that a mass of people is really supporting.

[@Heyitskrystal]

I find it unusual that people are calling the guy his ex-employee, I’m friends with my hairdresser (like JS was) and I never have nor ever would consider her my employee.

[@smokey_glow]

I think it's only because he was technically on his pay roll. Even if you're besties with someone, if you're paying them there is also a sort of "working relationship" too

[@BrookeCrochetsForU]

@@Heyitskrystal exactly. This guy was probably was on his pay roll. We don't know that for sure, but people suspect this because that's generally how it works when you expect that person to travel with you.

[@Heyitskrystal]

I totally agree they had a business relationship maybe its just semantics but something about calling his hairdresser an “ex-employee” when from the texts they seem like friends rubs me wrong. It sounds like “don’t listen to him he’s just the help” or something. Probably just my quirk.

[@smokey_glow]

No, that's a totally valid persepctive and also super interesting! I didn't even think about it that way but it could totally be being used to subconsciously make people trust him less.

[@naomilasby7744]

Girl, I'm kinda old at 41 but one good thing about it is that my skin is pretty break out free all the time no matter what since my thirties, but when I was in my twenties my skin went to shit as soon as I was sick too. And when you are fevery and sweaty and not feeling like taking care of it, it makes it even worse. You don't look too rough from my view. I always try to remind younger to not totally dismay about their skin, it will most likely get much better, mine went from very acne prone to pretty damn nice imo. 😘

[@farahkhan9827]

Naomi Lasby 41 is very young!!! I’m 15 but I don’t even really consider people in their 60’s old anymore. But that might have to do with who my favorite artists are 😂😂 But yeah, you’re young and I’m very jealous because you got to live through the 80s and 90s which are my favorite decades in term of everything!!! Lmao this has nothing to do with skin but I just had to reply 💞

[@sibel3158]

you literally make me so happy, your mind is so amazing I love listening to you!😩💗

[@cocomarie1870]

*reports james Charles to the ftc because petty* JK but someone please help that child

[@janeway7953]

Coco Marie love this idea/tweet

[@janeway7953]

He also called it Product Placement in the Tati video which I think means you don’t have to disclose . Is that how he skirts the law?

[@Cesia_B]

This aged beautifully 😂

[@rachelgrinnell]

Girl I am super sick too! My god I've been going thru it! Sitting around with tissues jammed up my damn nose all day long and can't sleep because I've been coughing. Do you have something similar? Feel better soon!

[@smokey_glow]

Yes!!! 😭😭 It's been the worst!

[@lm3828]

Love the vid, please tell us which products and brushes you’re using during storytime! ❤️💙🔥

[@kaisnook5512]

The fact her prediction was so right

[@lwalker8384]

Yes I agree with EVERYTHING. At last, someone talking sense. Love ya and hope u feeling better xxx❤️❤️

[@kimbasciano_]

Hope you’re feeling better! I’ve been sick too! Love your videos xoxo

[@zoehodges9198]

Just found your channel and I love how honest and candid you are!

[@whosfordinner216]

i started screaming when i saw my notification for this "biiiitch waaaiiit i gotta go finish getting my laundry" lol Edit: what's pissing me off, are drama channels and fans who are pissed at David bc of the unprofessional way to "expose" ...so people should just stay silent. And are shamed for speaking out. Like this is why victims don't speak out.

[@maga_om]

James Charles it’s very immature and childish really, I think it’s not a good combination with having so much following and that personality

[@marcwyant1217]

Oh my gosh, your videos are always so entertaining! You are a perfect example of how it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, it's the personality on the inside that counts! 😊

[@KourttneyL]

I’ve had to step back from KZbin because all this drama is affecting my personal life and causing my mental health to go to crap. I really appreciate your update on it so I don’t have to watch everyone’s side.

[@kiingalysha]

Love the hilarious editing on your videos!

[@farahkhan9827]

Preach!!! I’m confused on the Jeffree Star situation and than James has been disappointing me recently.

[@jillianwilson7567]

I'm late to the game for this one video, but I looooooove your 'my thoughts' videos. It's the reason I started following you. Then I fell in love with your other vids 😍

[@ellieclow1500]

Just found your channel from this vid popping up in my feed - love it! Subscribed :)

[@marissach]

I've been sick the last few days too. I can't seem to get past it. I also had a fresh breakout yesterday because why not. I'm right there with you on the misery.

[@Poppy_00]

I literally was ready to leave my house to go to a cottage for a bacholette weekend.... But I'm dropping everything to watch this. Lol

[@smokey_glow]

♥️♥️♥️

[@123rosebuds]

"Here we go"--that voice is so funny!

[@Codename_Dino]

So agree with you on all points regarding James Charles!

[@doloresofcourse]

I vaguely know who these people are since I don't follow them. I'm just here because I enjoy how you pour the tea.

[@leahsnow1962]

I absolutely love the way you say documentary ☺️

[@hannahshea712]

“he’s going to ruin his own career with his ego” she spoke it into existence

[@EllieBellie_111]

James has stated multiple times that he has a team. He has content creators, writers, editors, stylists, managers, media professionals, and more helping him with everything. His makeup skills are fine. But really he is only famous because he lied on the Ellen show and social media found an open space for a Beauty Boy.

[@LaniMilan]

Another great video! I am slowly becoming obsessed with you

[@alovelyburn]

With you on Jeffree's tweets. And I'm one of the "never did like him anyway" people, although I mean I really wavered for a minute after the Shane series. Because I'm a sucker for a sob story. But... yeah. As for James, I'm very forgiving with him because he's so young, honestly. It can be tempting to be like, well pick a side, bro, either take lumps like an adult because you want to be treated as one or own your youth and accept your flaws... but I keep thinking that thinking/acting like you know everything when you don't is just kind of what young people do. But I'm old, so I come from that perspective. ETA: TEXTS, OH MY GOD i caught your wording bug

[@farahkhan9827]

Arigottoes I’m younger than James and I understand and respect your pov. He is really young but I just hope he starts being less entitled. Again, I know he’s young but idk. And idk how to feel about Jeffree still.

[@whatevgirlie]

This is the first video of yours that I have watched. You pretty much said everything I have been thinking. I feel like an idiot for sitting here talking back to you on my screen 😂 I am subscribing to you just because of this video! 💖 😍