My thoughts on Riots Fighting Game after 2 Days of Hands on time

[@megafliege7170]

He: explaining every detail about overhead, airdash, cancel etc. Me who has never played a fighting game: Hell yeah brother whatever you say

[@saltyfry4328]

IKR im a guy looking to get into fighting games and every video I watch on stuff like Proj L and SF6 are just technical jargon XD I need to see if there are videos that catch newbs up to a point we can follow along.

[@FALCONLICK]

Speaking for everybody here. I was too afraid to say it lol

[@zoerosedunk4548]

​@@saltyfry4328I've got you homie. Go start with the Polygon video about starting out in fighting games by Patrick.

[@chiyue5676]

if youve played league, think abt airdash as a gap close and cancelling as basically animation cancelling (like in a riven combo)

[@PixelKey]

I feel seen 😆😆🤣🤣!!!!

[@LetsTryNotToScrewUp]

This game's looking INSAAANE I can't wait for Project Leffen content

[@bassheadgg]

I'm not even a huge fighting game fan but I respect Leffen's SSB career. The fact that he's this passionate about it has me super hyped to get into myself

[@mildsome9713]

what is SSB and what does it have to do with fighting games

[@Myst1c_OW]

@@mildsome9713 super smash brothers and its a fighting game

[@xxSSexyveganxx]

This game will have a TON of noobs when it comes out :D a lot easier to get into than SSB lol

[@rarecrom]

stop feeding into leffens ego man, nothing to respect about leffens smash career. every time he wins he talks shit, and every time he loses he johns, even tried to talk about port priority one time

[@Myst1c_OW]

@@rarecrom u act like if u cared about something this much u wouldnt be that upset whenever u lost, he takes it very seriously, and port priority did infact matter about 6 times in the set he complained about it... somebody analyzed it. and he only talks shit if somebody was being an asshole to him and saying he couldnt do it and he felt like he need to prove something, u should see him have a genuine expression of happiness after winning some games. but hey haters will be haters, u do u bruh.

[@mithias1]

What really excites me about Project L is the lineup potential, that and all the different stages/skins as well. Never really played anything but melee competitively but this is looking like it might change

[@treymtz]

Yeah, the roster is going to be nutty as a "forever" game model. Also the lore is already so fleshed out, its easy to get invested in characters and stages, and whatnot. Im so looking forward to seeing Fiddlesticks and Warwick as two likely monster characters.

[@thugbutter]

none of that matters if the gameplay isnt there

[@nrolling7192]

Project L has been my most anticipated FG for a while. So glad we got this update.

[@brentos78]

commenting for the algorithm and to say this game legit looks dope af

[@stephensterling1874]

As a league player it is fun to see how much overlap there is with LoL as he's explaining the characters

[@farthestaway9610]

So excited for this game and I'm so glad you enjoyed it! I think I trust Leff with his takes since he lines up pretty well with my opinions

[@DankMeme_Osu]

i really like the look of darius. As someone who is inexperienced with traditional 2-d fighters, he seems simple enough to have fun with right away & focus on fundamentals.

[@GSPV33]

Yes, and I like how much stun/freeze framing there is when he hits. They really feel impactful.

[@jonteguy]

People thought this game was going to be easy because no motion inputs... well, they were wrong. It is stacked with mechanics to make up for it that makes your decision making the big factor, which is truly what seperates players and even people who do team-based sports from the rest.

[@dakys3660]

Well if you're talking about team based sports, mechanics (skills) are a huge part of them too. Maybe the main reason why fighting games are not emulating well real life sports is because they are often quite limited on mechanics and are more focused on decision making. Footsies, option select, oki, mixups, etc. are really the core of the game while combos are just learnt in a few hundred of hours (which is ridiculously low if you compare it with real life sports or rocket league for example)

[@BurnettGaming]

This is what I'm so excited about. I've always hated motion inputs, they feel like an artificial barrier to what should be the interesting part of fighting games, the decision making and the strategy and reactions and creativity. Motion inputs have always felt like they're an unnecessary barrier between a new player and the fun parts of the game.

[@dakys3660]

@@BurnettGaming motions inputs are a way to balance your game actually. The more complex is the motion the more frame you need to make your move and the less you can use it in reaction. Like if you got your super that is invincible at starting frames and you can use it without motion inputs your opponent is literally blocked bcs at the first move he makes you can react to it instantly and counter hit. And from my experience motion inputs are a bit hard to learn and represent 30-40 hours to execute them properly in game but they arent the most difficult part of combos. It's much harder to time your hits bcs it is not just chaining your buttons at the exact same pace but it's about having the proper rythm for sometimes a 13-15 hit combo, and this game seems to have some long combo. For example I had harder time doing combos on dbfz that has almost no motion input than in sf6 that has heavy motion inputs combos

[@power50001562]

@@BurnettGaming using a mouse is mechanically difficult for someone who doesn't game on PC should we allow aim assist for people who aren't used to a mouse?

[@thembaphiri1528]

Giving invincible moves no motion inputs is a really bad idea almost makes some characters gameplans useless thar means anything with the slightest gap can be punished without any draw back of messing up the panic move 😢

[@Trowoverl0rd]

Riot taking it to the next level for pro's or new people who want to enjoy more fighting games like this! Good Job Riot

[@bardvt4492]

im super excited for this game it seems like there so much depth and i fear it might discourage newer players from it but i think a fighting game thats backed by riot coming into the community will be HUGE

[@mrlion8834]

I'll just say as someone who's not a huge fgc person, this game aesthetically and look wise is really intriguing. I played League and so having an interest in the characters and the world makes me super interested in the game. If you tell me the game is free to play, and I can log in practice time without feeling like I'm losing anything and in the age of KZbin, people start releasing guides to learn the game, I'm very interested and definitely want to give it a strong try.

[@TherealZR]

Can you cross up in the corner? Can you bait burst by blocking or does it have to whiff? How reliable were anti airs? How viable was charging a heavy into dash as pressure off heavy normals for example Glad I watched this, definitely the most concise video so far. Thanks for this semi deep dive, make the 3 hour video!

[@TruthAndReconciliation]

8:40 looks like a corner crossup (out of a full jump at least lol)

[@thomasnorin8145]

You can bait burst by blocking like in GGST

[@OriginalJumpman]

Humungous Leff X Riot gonna be insane

[@murky16]

Riot really got tired of dominating the moba market and said “let’s just take over every other genre as well”😂😂 ie. (Valorant, this, and whatever their mmo is gonna be called)

[@checknow1235163]

They had to release more games to truly become Riot Games

[@RuneMamba]

they dont dominate moba, league is garbage

[@JoaoPedro-hc3vw]

@@RuneMamba but is still the most popular

[@MegaShiney99]

@@RuneMamba best moba though lol, mobas as a whole are garbage.

[@kami97754]

They have Moba (LoL & WR) Card game (LoR) Strategy game (TFT) FPS(Valorant) Fighting game (project L) MMORPG (idk)

[@timothyhigglesworth9841]

This content is good Good seeing long form in depth complex content Like 53 min video titled “Project L - FULL BREAKDOWN - My Thoughts

[@RiffRaffish]

Leffen to become dangerously large after winning a major in another fighting game.

[@LS-td4yf]

The thing I’m the most excited about with this game is the fact it’s gonna be ftp. I find them the most fun when they first release and everyone is improving but after that I kinda get bored and it gets harder to find matches which makes me feel like I wasted my money. Since this is ftp there’s always gonna be new players rolling in and I don’t have to pay for anything

[@danoshu]

Yep it sounds fantastic. F2P means more players playing fighting games which is so incredible for the industry. Riot means huge prize money which is generally also unheard of in the community.

[@LS-td4yf]

@DANOSHDesignsD yeah capcom cup is gonna look like nothing

[@TheDarkShadow931]

And the fact that the lore is related to LoL makes the roster almost infinite, they will never catch up to the LoL roster which will make Project L always get new (and FREE) characters. We can also expect patches and balances very often as they are used to with TFT/LoL/Valorant so that's another great point.

[@marchaoz9649]

​@@danoshu Riot doesn't give big prize money but more on giving stable income for the pro players in league and valorant

[@danoshu]

@@marchaoz9649 Wait until League chars will start appearing in other fighting games as guest characters

[@cowblast_]

this game looks great I’m so excited

[@matheuspadz]

I'm just excited to see the growth of the FGC in my country. Brasil has little to none competitive scene, limited to some areas, I guess it will be the same for you, I've seen you complain about the non existent Melee scene in Europe as well. This game is going global baby.

[@asdfasdfadsfasdf]

0:34 I did not expect to see Maximilian Dood's friends and Leffen playing each other lmfao

[@Amaling]

The photos at the start are a super cute touch, thanks for that

[@JoshDoes]

THIS IS EXTREMELY AWESOME

[@Yeliad]

Great analysis Leff! Cant wait to hear more about this game from you

[@JoziWOW]

hell yeah this game looks amazing

[@lagaffe91]

So happy to see the game for real this time

[@locketmasterprod]

Playing with 2 players in the same team will probably become interesting when the meta of the different characters will be deep enough to require a full dedication to 1 character to master it and know his matchups.

[@FG011]

That's what I was thinking, duos might become more and more prominent as the game expands and the meta evolves

[@msuper7626]

I’m so excited for this game ! Imma be playing it 24/7

[@lilgohan]

this looks dope! Want to see more!

[@mrnobody9147]

Do more pls this game looks fun! 2v2 sounds like a lot of fun tag team :D

[@malikzenon]

That mixup with Ekko reminded me of how people delay tagouts in Battle for the Grid

[@gordonfreeman1700]

They made a Project for the Big Leff himself! Epic!

[@scarvello]

I does look very clean. I like how responsive the characters are looking.

[@VanceWeebin]

Damn first video in 7 months, I miss the SSBU hate days 🥺

[@Alienrun]

I think we all...its a shame most of that "content" is lost to twitch vods of the past... Maybe its for the best tho that that's behind us! (Even leffen himself said he doesn't like who he becomes when he plays too much Ult) lol :P

[@Lioni177]

Love the content thanks Big Leff

[@Yerrrzen]

I think this is the only game from Riot that I might actually play

[@LupusAdNoctem]

This + SF6 will be a sick FG rotation for the next several years 👍🏼

[@chiyue5676]

cant forget abt mk and t8

[@LupusAdNoctem]

@@chiyue5676 personally not interested in those, but do you

[@benjaminacosta4947]

Would it be nice to implement a temporary small shield when switching between players to encourage switching?

[@ranmaster27]

Gosh, it reminds me soo much of MvC3! Hype!

[@stalker-p7z]

Where is my chaos queen jinx ?!!!? 😢

[@WaffleOnTheRun]

So what exactly is the combo structure, is it gatlings like light-medium-heavy into special

[@Polopollo75]

How do you super dash though? :D

[@mariobat3540]

What fighting games can I play now to prepare for when this game comes out is what I am interested in!

[@JoshDoes]

maybe street fighter or mortal combat

[@kerokeropoonito]

street fighter 6 is the best game rn for beginners

[@Bovaz85]

I really hope the main competitive mode will be 2v2. I feel it's going to be more hype to watch, and add the level of having two people synchronize. An issue I could see with that mode is that if Player 1 is stomping with a character, there may be no reason for Player 2 to tag in: however from the little I've see it looks like the reward from assists is important to an effective gameplay. We'll see. Anyway, this game is on track to be a massive earthquake in the scene

[@EsperSpirit]

Looks a lot like MvC3. Would love a comparison to that one specifically.

[@kikiswip]

We want more of this content :)

[@SolonarTM]

Awesome of riot to invite you and other peeps in the scene to check this out

[@ethanpoe4823]

Cant wait for Evo 2035 where Leffen wins in grand finals playing Azir

[@ImmaTigerBro]

Great breakdown big Leff, but this is NOT the first tag fighting game with two round matches. Street Fighter X Tekken had that.

[@tremil2]

biggest leff of all time

[@TKanoWrites]

Could honestly bring back tag fighters in a resurgence 🎉

[@bdestlostworn3603]

really like the game is focused on movement and cool mix

[@BeardedTech]

We want more my dude

[@StefanTrifunovic]

What I really hate is that it freezes once you hit someone, like in street fighter. It should be at all time fluent like in Tekken...

[@lingus1382]

Big leff is gonna go insane in this game

[@NoHeros247]

Aside from smash this is probably the first fighting game ima really go hard in. I enjoyed street fighter and mortal kombat but i love the vusuals of this and the complexity.

[@polettiayala]

Does the game have custom control configuration or only 1 by default ?

[@vidfreak727]

Push block shouldn’t cost meter, though, that’s ridiculous.

[@EricGiby]

looks amazingly good

[@lorddeecee]

Idk any of these characters but for sure picking up the fox waifu first

[@UbaZy]

Give us more please !! its too good

[@tjlewis7868]

Small observation but looks like each character has their own separate meter bar

[@ethan..-_]

how do you feel about the ui/did they say how final it is?

[@mrmarkius4855]

you can tell this UI is VERY early and they dont care about it yet

[@idirbouchdoug1567]

UI is one of the ladt things that get done. so im guessing it is a placeholder.

[@kenshinuesugi2454]

That player name was 1234x4 Jhin confirmed

[@Nerex7]

It looks really good. I hope they don't fuck up the online experience. Some fighting games live and die with their netcode.

[@sadaba43]

gods i wanna play this so bad

[@werenostrangerstolove7739]

You can always count on rito when it comes to sweaty games

[@cre8tivemediavault72]

I`ve been waiting for this one, but I`m stoked about the 2v2! Can`t wait to get my hands on it, but I`m also wondering how they`re going to balance out the 2v2 player where every player gets enough on-screen time. I`m thinking about if you have a team up where one team member is super skilled and the other member is a novice (that scenario will probably happen a lot with families and friends). Can the skilled team player "hog" the screen time? I`m really curious about how they`re going to handle that scenario (otherwise little brother will never get a chance to play🤣)!

[@xsmoelf]

it would not suprise me that they will introduce a mechanic or a "keystone" like the 2 different ones they are using in each team in this video. That will allow you to swap the opponents character and continue pressure / combo

[@Rat_Noise]

Please keep talking about this awesome game

[@fieryspy6414]

I always felt like fighting games are my thing but never got around to playing it. If this launches here then this might just be the only game Ill play. But I wanted to ask one thing, does everyone feel like there is visual clutter or is this just how games in this style are supposed to be?

[@lucawendel7644]

its all fine. you got all the indicators you need once you know how to read them. yeah this game is a bit flashy but its not that bad ^^ there are way worse games out there with huge gfx & flashing colors. just look for some 2d anime fighters and your eyes might burn.

[@jarvicarrasquero7074]

It is cluttered because of the nature of the game. You need all that information. Other games with a different style are less cluttered. I would recommend to try Street fighter 6 if you are trying to get into fighting games

[@lucawendel7644]

@@jarvicarrasquero7074 stop bullshitting. you dont need those huge flashes for any button you hit. every damn move has a full screen effect. as i said you got everything you need but exaggerated.

[@umaysalife]

Street Fighter is the simpliest fg right there it will introduce you to a lot of fg mechanics

[@pedrogoncalves4585]

Im curious, is this gona be PC only?

[@Supernir]

Honestly looks sick, am hype

[@TheChocolatBlanc]

Looks great

[@ryujinflow]

What are the best games to play as a player new to FG?

[@jarvicarrasquero7074]

Whichever looks cooler. At the moment SF6 is great and designed to help new players. Tekken 8 and Mortal Kombat 1 are also coming out soon. At last Guilty Great Strive is a little older but it is "anime" style (like this game). Anime style games are very jumpy, fast moving, with a lot of air play. I would recommend Dragon Ball Fighterz but it is a laggy game. I love it but haven't fixed the lag (even though they promised they will)

[@somsnosa.]

whichever game you think is coolest. the thing that will keep you playing fighting games wont be ease of access itll be interest. its the same with picking a character. dont be afraid of picking a hard game/character as long as you like them. if you pick a game or character because they're beginner friendly but dont really care for them there wont be that motivation to improve. it takes time to learn fighting games like it does with everything, so having that motivation is important.

[@IfWhatYes]

Strive or sf6 for sure. Strive might have less new players but there are many characters with simpler gameplans. Sf6 low ranks are very fun for beginners and if people know how to play fgs they will make silver or gold quickly so it should feel fair to you

[@chiyue5676]

guilty gear strive is definitely a super good one to start on. The game is eye candy (if you’re fine with the anime fighter aesthetic), pretty low skill floor, a lot of online resources/tutorials to learn the game fairly quickly, flashy and beautiful supers (it’s hand-drawn 30 fps, which is basically Mappa quality), easy combos, and a roster that appeals to a wide range of playstyles. Definitely my #1 rec if you wanna learn the handles of a fighting game. Since Project L is set to be a tag fighter, if u wanna familiarize yourself with tag mechanics, go check out bbtag, mvc3, or skullgirls

[@Alienrun]

I'm gonna give you the best answer here: If your just starting out this is what you do... 1. Start with the game that gets your attention the most. This can be cause the graphics are cool, you like the characters, its been on your mind recently, or you like the playstyle (think Smash vs normal FGCs) 2. After you familiarize yourself with the mechanics and possibly get bored of the game (which might happen if the game isn't that well designed or you've yet to discover a game you ACTUALLY want to play) try something that's similar but that you think you'll like better...or if your more adventurous...try something new. (don't over do this...unless you perfer to be a fighting game archivist rather than someone trying to get good at one game lol) 3. The main reason to get into "new games" (with the exception of Melee cause that game ain't ever dying out lol) is to play the same game as a bigger scene...as leffen himself put it, he's more interested in mainstream FGs cause they have more money involved...as operating soley on "raw passion" isn't feasible in the long run. If you don't care about any of that just play literately whatever you want. Make a custom mugen build and play that with your friends and mess around with anything that looks interesting if that sounds interesting to you. FGs can be just as much a single player experience (as in, you go on a journey playing a game, replay it if you enjoy it, then move on to something else when you feel like it) as it is a social experience. It doesn't become "try to become the best in the world" unless you make it that...granted...a lot of the appeal in fighting games is self improvement, so naturally when you first start getting good that thought will be in your head...at least the idea of trying to do that...but it can be taxing if real life stuff starts to interfere (or the other way around), so do be cautious of that...take a step back if you feel you need to is all I'm saying...perspective is important ya know! 4. If you want to ignore step one and want to make sure your first game is "the best one" then do some reasearch and see which game has mechanics you think you'll like the most long term. If you find the advance mechanics too...hard to parse instinctually...then just look at the basic mechanics and how the relate to each other. Also...don't be afraid of the game seeming "too hard" or "too complicated"...generally speaking these mechanics won't get in the way of you finding the fun in the minutia of learning. (at first anyways...later on the more advanced stuff might gel with you more) 5. Just play Melee lol :P

[@juanbarrera1356]

How many characters will it have?

[@Infidel.]

4 right now, alot more overtime. The game won't be out anytime soon

[@Id-EXTRA]

Were you able to parry assists?

[@user6171]

I wouldn't have watched it, if Ahri wasn't in the thumbnail.

[@starbunyz]

as a melee player and league player I will watch 100% of Project Leffen

[@Awoo-]

Did it have stick motions or was it 1 button specials/platform fighter controls?

[@chiyue5676]

opting to convince the fgc to bag the first 2 months of the game’s release so that new players don’t immediately quit the game

[@HirokiPlays]

Good players don't fight new players outside of the first week. They quickly move on to higher ranks, and by the time new players reach those ranks, they've already moved even further ahead. So unless you go out of your way to look to match up with really good players, new players will be fine as long as they stick to ranked. You usually stay fighting people around your level.

[@mojolito]

This game is gonna have a massive influx of new players so they will all rejoice in noobness

[@tylerturner8466]

If this has zed yasuo or yone as a playable character I'm in

[@chiyue5676]

zed and yasuo were “confirmed” (leaked) as part of the base roster, according to a somewhat credible source. Definitely looking forward to zed tho, a lot of setplay and oki potential (if they make him a puppet character i’m gonna cry)

[@WaffleOnTheRun]

Basically the two most popular league characters, I can not imagine they don't make it.

[@stalker-p7z]

Imagine urgot or victor in that game ❤

[@mojolito]

Aurelion Sol or Singed

[@stalker-p7z]

@@mojolito singer more exepted than aurelion XD

[@mojolito]

@@stalker-p7z kled or teemo

[@stalker-p7z]

@@mojolito sett or aphelios

[@mojolito]

@@stalker-p7z amumu, velkoz

[@tokisuno]

huge leff.

[@kstixx7575]

i do want more.

[@theluckylux]

Leffen, you need to get Mang0 to be on your team. :)

[@JusRed48]

One thing I hope they consider looking at early is the HUD/UI in matches. The top HUD stuff seems a bit low and intrusive by fighting game standards and even the little popups like interrupt/handshake tag having like a whole box that it sits in that goes over the characters seems like it can take away from some visual clarity depending on how much can happen on-screen at once.

[@Weirddude25]

Commenting in hopes of the algorithm giving me more project L content

[@zoerosedunk4548]

Please do talk for many many hours about this game

[@datboishiz3474]

HOLY SHIT HE FOUND THE PASSWORD TO THE ACCOUNT

[@KeezySerr]

Let's go

[@cxstarfan]

looks amazing man

[@witmilk6527]

Really looks like this game is going to be THE general fighting game that a lot of players will start of with from when it's getting released and widespread in the public and maybe even default to Like shooters have csgo/cod Football has fifa And fighting games will have ProjectL (For anyone wondering, no I don't mean it's the best or anything like that but it will be the fighting game that will start to get picked up the most by new people)

[@EthanALS]

I think it could be a widespread fighting game but only because it’s free unlike tekken 8 and SF6 which are like $70 or so. If project L was also $70 I’m not so sure it would compete with established titles. Are league players gonna play a fighting game or are they gonna just keep playing league, answer is clear to me

[@Yoyomo124]

This game looks awesome

[@woozi29]

This looks so sick!

[@whitekj03]

This actually looks like the skeleton for MvC3.. Tatsunoko vs Capcom. My first experience grinding a 2-D fighting game as a kid. Exciting times, good job big Leff love to see quality content like this.

[@battlericky17]

Your video got recommended to me and then your scandal video also got recommended to me lmao. “Before you like this person, know that he is evil” gotta love youtube

[@Dark_Tesla]

I can’t wait to absolutely MOLLYWHOMP League players in this game.

[@HopeRunsDeep22]

Funny Leffen even explains that he wouldnt have a one sided opinion based on being paid for the testing. Anyone who knows Leffen or has followed him for a minute know that would never be the case haha. But I know people who don't know him will find this video. This guy is the realist dude ever. Sometimes toooooo real haha.

[@VanteNxtDoor]

Me seing Kenny and Steve is amazing if you know them we are one with MAX

[@alexanderjimenez2231]

pero pasa link para jugarlo men