Who Should Be In 2XKO?

[@deku4517]

24:09 Gekko: you know what this cast is missing? a villain Mordekaiser: am i a joke to you?

[@nolanclay5104]

Okay but what about Jhin as well?

[@johancito16345]

​@@nolanclay5104he is only the vilian of zed and shen

[@johancito16345]

Well, mordekaiser hadant have a rekevance for a while, unlike viego

[@kamentine]

@@johancito16345 ...He's literally a serial killer. What.

[@johancito16345]

@@kamentine he is obiosly refering to a bigger scale of villian, jhin is literaly coffe shop level compared to morde and viego

[@minzofg7868]

BRO BLITZCRANK AS MY GRAPPLER PLEASE THE FULL SCREEN COMMAND GRABS WOULD BE SO GOOD

[@peterambers]

Could even have an air version to mix it up.

[@edhaine]

Oh hell nah.

[@-drey-202]

thisss, just do blitz as a grappler and grappler mains will be happy. not sure about the full screen command grab tho. a full screen hit grab sounds cool tho

[@mrobull]

I think a "hookshot" type of grab Reactable a far not close up

[@user-kun2147]

I've been playing GGS' Baiken recently and I think her Kabari would be a great move for Blitz

[@peterambers]

Azir is almost like made for a puppet character. Bringing the soldiers to fight for him or shield him. Similar to strives Jack-O

[@BrotherShev]

or yorrick

[@GhengisJohn]

"We're calling it 'project L' because we need time to think up the worst name we can."

[@hentacletentai2160]

Viego in league actually don't work like he would in the lore, he's supposed to take over your mind and control you like a puppet, not body swap and turn into you. So i would make it so if he can kill or do something one of the opponent's character, he can use them for assist attack, so you would have Viego, your other character and the opponent's character that you got as an assist.

[@3vlive227]

Kinda like how baby plays in dbfz

[@Skull_Kingg]

HE GOT HIS CHANNEL BACK, THANK GOD!!!! Glad to see you back Gekko

[@YoTerrako]

He got his 2nd channel back?

[@thatguy8841]

What happened

[@YoTerrako]

@@thatguy8841 his 2nd channel got banned he talked about it on twitter

[@gogocrazycocoa]

Wait, what happened???

[@yugodealer]

we will not be calling it 2xko 🔥

[@immumeii]

I just call it double knockout

[@yorickvlt1021]

Who's we? give it a month and a half and everyone's out here saying 2XKO

[@yj9795]

@@yorickvlt1021 even so its still a pretty shitty name tbh

[@Sappysappster]

ProjectL is literally much catchier and people already liked it Dunno why they did that name change :T

[@3rdstrikestan930]

Damn it's the twitter name change all over again

[@ninjaroku3247]

Gekko really went for the Connect 4 joke when explaining 4 things about Jin. I give you one short burst of golf claps of respect.

[@dededepression2628]

GOLF claps? like the-

[@keinen.0824]

Jhin

[@Boobusmcscoobus]

I’m just glad I can experience league in some capacity without sacrificing half my life span

[@bmroyals7065]

“Technically didn’t even have a yordle”, gnar is a yordle my dude

[@GCWeber]

That's why he said technically. Gnar is only a yordle half the time (plus he's technically an evolutionary precursor to yordles. A proto-yordle of sorts)

[@beanybombguy7847]

bro said they needed a villian when he added the best villain at number 2

[@mozzy9412]

He don't play lol he called sett a grappler he would be a rush down or a tank ish charater

[@katunu6030]

@@mozzy9412idk man that looks like a big grab to me

[@raekwonchambers2297]

@@mozzy9412I think he would be a pseudo grappler like mostly brawler but in combos he would have various grabs and maybe some armor grapple moves I’m thinking like z broly or super broly in fighterz

[@Le0_0-]

And number 4

[@mydrillasanjay5397]

​@@katunu6030just bc a character has a command grab doesn't make them a grappler

[@Pianohnonono]

6:04 how did you not bring up the power of magnetism

[@happymagician1699]

BY THE NAME OF TAGER. yoink

[@eldarbirulin9128]

PLEASE FIDDLESTICKS, i want a normal based zoner who is squimshy pwease may i have the horror incarnate. Also making Samir a style based Susano'o is fucking based as fuck

[@player21w2]

Bro just play test

[@m0ejo324]

I feel like Fiddlesticks wouldn't be a zoner, more like a rush down mix up character since lore wise he kills his victims up close and personal. Plus he has a teleport ability which could help close in on zoners.

[@justaguy1304]

My dumbass thought you meant susano’o from naruto, took me like a solid two minutes to revise and come back with a more sensible answer

[@MC.Tengu00]

Fiddle would be the equivalent of Faust from Guilty gear

[@m0ejo324]

@@MC.Tengu00 that's what I am saying! Dab me up

[@SleepyEmissary]

I think vex would be a more interesting puppet character but thats cus i'm biased with almost a million mastery 💀

[@morganpriest7726]

A smige biased

[@realgoose4246]

Literally just zato but small

[@runahyee3833]

no i agree

[@SleepyEmissary]

@@morganpriest7726 just a wee bit

[@LuisLopez-in1re]

@@runahyee3833 I disagree. I think Kindred is better.

[@ProitoOk]

This roaster needs a clunky character. And the best one is Fiddlesticks. With weird hitboxes (using his scythe and his long arm) and uncanny animations, his gameplay would revolve around scarecrows: He would have a movement in which he throws a scarecrow (that the opponent can break by hitting it), and he would have the ability to switch places with it. He would be a character that needs a lot of setup, but in the right conditions, he has the ability to do crazy shanenigans, changing places with multiple scarecrows and doing terrifying mixups, while providing a nice ammount of control by summoning crows, like in League

[@franciscoOrellana29]

Zac

[@avix7843]

Faust

[@mojolito]

you are just describing faust lol

[@darkskyxgames]

Yes! I always play weird characters with weird movements in fighting games.

[@tjhunter9787]

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of build the roster... wait a minute

[@3rdstrikestan930]

Wrong channel bro

[@player21w2]

2:13 - you hear it too? *ALPHA BLADE*

[@zinfuldreams1709]

mordekaiser is...Not the size of a castle, but he's pretty huge

[@korben0001]

I've been saying kindred puppet character since Project L was revealed to be in development. Thx for confirming my thoughs (also put Gnar in the game)

[@MsGabilo]

I don't care about everyone (well maybe Mordekaiser) I just want Yorick as a puppet/minions character

[@altnova6643]

This game is the only place where he would actually gets picked lol

[@MsGabilo]

@@altnova6643I can definitely see that happening if he's in the game

[@descafeinado_4678]

udyr would be a funny stance character, with 4 stances for each posture in league

[@thosebloodybadgers8499]

Jhin is a very valid choice. He's pretty versatile in his kit, actually. He used knives before being gifted a gun by a mysterious patron and he really did primarily employ traps to evade the extended Kusho family. Not even particularly "artistic" traps ever, just using his environment and whatnot. I could straight up see him being inspired by Hol Horse from Heritage but with some knife normals and more varied setup.

[@4JOLOT3]

i love your ggs videos and im flatered to see my "GGS guy" talk about another game i love. keep it up mate

[@themightygoose329]

Mord is a huge villain in the league lore and with the ability to take away assists and force 1v1s would be a great boss mechanic

[@Slavic_Hooker]

Those were all good guesses, but I can’t see a league game without Miss Fortune.

[@SenpaiYuriYT]

How is LEE SIN not on the list? Do you understand how SICK it would be to do combos where you add his q on the opponent, ult kick them then continue the combo by connecting the q?

[@kazuo2887]

Fiddlesticks, just Fiddlesticks, I need my boi, my clown deamon of fear boi

[@joaowitorcoelho9201]

I am a League player and i know nothing about fighting games, but i really loved this video. Definitly subscribing.

[@KillaCheeto56]

I don't really have much League knowledge, but there are 5 characters I desperately want. Those being Vi, Lee Sin, Talon, Samira, and Fiora. Even if they aren't base roster, I'll be happy if they show up at all.

[@maxwellgojo1949]

LETS GOO NEW GEKKO DROP 🎉

[@sherloch8297]

No Garen nor Lux nor Lee Sin is criminal. Riot will 100% add one of these.

[@p0sh77]

Garen is boring

[@ΚρανίΩ]

bro said garen lmao

[@buggypc9753]

I like calling it 2 hugs knockout :3

[@logantaylor1834]

doesn't "X" mean kisses?

[@johnnywakeup5515]

@@logantaylor1834 XOXO means Hugs & Kisses, don't it?

[@mydrillasanjay5397]

​@@johnnywakeup5515yeah but the x is to refer to the kiss and the o is to refer to the hug

[@johnnywakeup5515]

@@mydrillasanjay5397 Does anyone say Kisses & Hugs? I've only ever heard it said Hugs & Kisses, XOXO.

[@SmotheryAxe1414]

If Vi is in it with Jinx she should be an echo fighter of Sol.

[@Eskimofo13]

IRON STANDS ETERNAL Also no Pantheon is a crime against all men

[@blooddumpster3427]

I can't wait to play The Project Formerly Known as L

[@HolyHadou]

I was waiting for Vi and this close to commenting. You did not disappoint. Well played and thank you.

[@reillocb]

You gotta call it double knockout

[@Taizen_Chisou]

yoinking the style meter idea for my fighter lmao cheers!

[@Flailmorpho]

jhin's trap also reveals the enemy for 4 seconds

[@specificocean4176]

His name contains 4 letters and typing it out on a keyboard spells out the number 4

[@natethebad]

I'm already having nightmares about a Jhin super based on his LOL ultimate that you can tag out of so you can run mixups with your other character while he locks the enemy down with the 4 shots.

[@koopakape]

I just want some of my weird freaks like Blitzcrank, Zac or Fiddlesticks, or some Yordle action like Veigar, Poppy or Rumble. So far everyone's basically normal-ish humans (even if Illaoi has some unusual aspects for sure and Ahri is like 10% fox) and my only worry is that they stick almost exclusively to human chars to appeal mostly to normies lmao

[@Nparalelo]

*to appeal mostly to China

[@Ramsey276one]

Where's the Krillin function? XD

[@altnova6643]

@@Nparalelolegit they changed the cool skull guy that is Thresh to a twink in Wild Rift just to appeal to those cry babies.

[@catoblepas8697]

The devs said they want a diverse cast in visual and gameplay, so its very possible for a non human character appear in the future

[@LeatherBacon]

Rumble just visually is similar to the likes of Tron in mvc so could be a cool way to revisit that character

[@br4tuna576]

Well... shet, you, mister, got me hyped for the 2xko with this roster. Basically, as a league player and fighting player, i agree with every pick.

[@screeno42]

I love how everyone heard the new name and was like "that kinda sucks."

[@derpybreads2212]

For the Jhin suggestion, you used Junpei as an example for a complex combo tracker, when 1. Junpei's system is intuitive because it's just a real life sport, and 2. Margaret in the SAME GAME has a super that does basically the exact same thing that you described, Hassou Tobi does a fuck ton more damage if you combo into it when the combo counter is at a multiple of 8. (It's 8 because in P4 Hassou Tobi hits 8 times)

[@Ramsey276one]

I didn't know THAT about Margaret Hassoutobi... 0_o

[@Cherry-xp9xz]

There is actually a character in KI that is a Stance Zoner Bruiser character, his name is Eyedol

[@TheDesknight]

Mordekaiser Ult disabling assist here is genius re-use of an abilituy , great game design there.

[@Arassar]

Characters I would like to see: Akali - one of my fave characters, regular old zippy ninja type Alistar - probably not super popular, but could be a good Hulk-type with armor moves Orianna - setup zoner with area control Thresh - get over here, Axl-type normals zoner Trundle - big body, could make walls like Aganos in KI Annie - the puppet character Udyr - the stance master Jax - I hit things with fence post Shyvana - I dunno I just like Shyvana

[@dirk-aranjuez1512]

tbh shyvanna is like another character that can do installs

[@justaguy1304]

@@dirk-aranjuez1512”dragon inst-“ no. No install, just dragon.

[@basicdumb1444]

udyr my love

[@mr.g1672]

I believe Sett's code name during his development was literally "grappler"

[@olianims]

I think a better implementation of mordekaiser's ultimate would be to lock the screen in place so that people cant run away and zone him out

[@sevaneken3461]

Solid but assist will combo break him

[@Goodheartless]

For viego, I feel like the body snatching would be best served by him being able to steal the assists of killed characters. As for characters not mentioned here that I would wanna see, Fiddlesticks is the biggest monster champ I wanna see. He’s such a weirdo and the idea of being able to jump scare the enemy with scarecrows sounds amazing.

[@zatup1chse]

3:30 the biggest mistake is trying to give RIOT games characters archetypes. They doesn't know what is this. They literally have tank assassin in their game, what are you talking about?

[@haiju324]

I believe that Azir or Naafiri will fill "puppet character" archetype

[@runahyee3833]

i feel like zed or vex are more likely cuz zed is popular and vex is like the only yordle that can be translated well in the game idk

[@d00mkaiser]

@@runahyee3833 nah, plenty of yordles could work fizz, heimer (if you want pure setplay), kennen is literally just cringier sasuke that might actually end up being cool with a fleshed out moveset, poppy, even rumble as a mecha-type character, and still more would work

[@Kaya_1209]

Happy Chaos comes in my mine when you said Jhin

[@ezraho8449]

Sett’s special moves would give him super armor and if he takes a hit during the super armor it gives the move more damage/combo extensions.

[@Rocketblast0]

I imagine Morde playing like Vaseraga from GBFVSR with the "Walks towards you menacingly" type move

[@meh3997]

Vi as a boxer(my fav type) would be straight forward and nice but imagine someone like Jayce which can stance change from all in mode to zoner mode

[@Nelsathis]

I want to play a game with that video in the background, but that avatars dance is too hypnotizing, häälp D: edit: Oof he stopped, thank dog. Oh right, put Nasus in.

[@DylanGosseye]

Dr. Mundo should be in there. His league passive could count as hyper-armor.

[@tangowithjango]

If Sett isn't on the main roster, We Riot. Homie's entire lore base is him running an fight club, and being the Pit Boss.

[@pedrohenrique-db3xd]

About a character that completely swiches playstyles with stances, there's Izayoi from BlazBlue. She has a normal mode, where she plays a keepaway and neutral control style, and in that mode, she farms stocks when the opponent blocks or gets hit by a special move. Then, she can freely switch to her Gain Arts mode, where she becames a super agressive rushdown character with flying movement, and can use her stocks she previously farmed for combo extensions, fullscreen neutral skips, instant overhead mixups and pressure resets.

[@fakepotato4875]

hopefully the starting roster is 18-26 characters

[@JBasilix]

Gekko casually finding huge revelations in our mathematical system. Truly a genius of our time. As for a character that could be interesting is Ryze as a midrange fighter with some teleport shenanigans. Another character that I would love to see is Shyvanna just so she can finally get the visual redesign she deserves

[@darfosproducion]

In my opinion Ryze should be in the base roster, back in 2016 he got his most recent rework his abilities had synergy with each other, making q combo into e have a small buff on damage or e into w save a resource to spend it into defense or damage... unafortunaly they removed that for simple q e rorations, so maybe in 2xko he gets the skill ceiling he deserves

[@PedroMiguel-zv3fj]

I love how gekko said "we need villains in this roster, everyone so far is neutral at best" while having the biggest noxus villain of all time and one of the biggest Ionia villains too in his list

[@Luigi8277]

when i heard perfect puppet i was thinking more of orianna since all of her spell are attached to the ball but i guess she can also be a zoner.

[@misterspoo7068]

imma be honest im biased so kindred as some weird af puppet / some other archetype character like i could see them as a puppet + zoner, a puppet + pixie or a puppet + gimmick character

[@GeodudeSpitsFacts]

Briar is a perfect for a fighting game. I can imagine her having a moveset when she's restrained and a ability where she can break free, giving her access to more combos and a small life regen for a limited amount of time

[@Grux_ASG]

She feels too new to me

[@wildman456]

I’m mainly FGC and only got LoL back in 6th grade because my friend asked me. After middle school I never decided to redownload it until somewhat recently when they reworked my old main, Udyr. OG Udyr would probably be a stance character more focused on rush down but his rework put that man on a BULK! His body proportions are now in a similar vein as SF6 Zangief so now he’d probably be a stance brawler - grappler with hard hitting combos and deviating command grabs. I would play Udyr regardless but I really hope they make him a grappler

[@justnojustn3036]

*adds the death lord and arguable one of the most evil characters in the entire story of league of legends as one of your first characters, a character* "We need a villain"

[@unluckyjynx]

I pray Fiddlesticks somehow makes it into this game, I think he would be pretty fun to play in a fighting game format

[@EzKay_PX]

For the puppet spot, I think another character that would be really cool and iconic would be Anne. she plays even closer to an actual puppet character than Kindred while also adding some interesting mechanics to overwhelm your opponent (Imagine having to hold pressure against a cracked Ekko and Anne Team with rewind and the bear just smaking she shit out of you from behind)

[@casycable884]

Feel like we're still missing some kind of scary monster with wierd disjoints, Fiddle anyone?

[@MC.Tengu00]

Speaking of Vi and Jinx, I believe Yone being added to the game would be a funny addition because of his possession ability and huge knock-up potential. Probably the only change he will have is the shield ability giving when landing the blade swing.

[@righteouself9928]

I can not put into words just how much I want Mordekaiser in this. I would commit unspeakable things

[@blastfire21]

The masses yearn for teemo, he is a certified little guy

[@nikhilbhavani981]

While he’d probably be DLC due to his inherent kit, Twisted Fate seems perfect as a guy who can change his specials to fit the situation and lead to combo routes or setups. Maybe a high burst damage card throw that needs to recharge slowly, or a lower damage throw that recharges so much faster, or even a very low damage card with a middling recharge but a weird debuff, like delayed inputs or poison or even a stun state to extend combos.

[@BirdThatEatsPrometheussLiver]

Bye bye gecko, I love you

[@captaincookie5042]

Xayha would honestly make a rlly cool combo game with her returning feathers

[@artoriasalter5700]

Just a quick note about Riven. She was created with fighting games in mind. In fact, all of her gameplay is centered around animation cancels to maximize her DPS.

[@Ledgewax_]

although, the animation cancels were unintentional by rito.

[@carterwogoman5421]

My dream for kindred would be for her to play kinda like eagle from KI. He is also a puppet character with a bow, but is rushdown/mixup based. The robot bird is there to help him apply his pressure. This also fits kindred's playstyle in league, as they are fairly aggressive invading the enemy jungle and chasing down those who flle death's call.

[@mai_1.]

19:30 you just invented susano'o blazblue!

[@chickensalad3535]

I think that Kindred has the potential to be super fun and interesting. I’d love to see how they would implement wolf.

[@s.b.e._9692]

Gnar, is perfect joke character. When you want it to make it work you change from mega to normal and zoner is next to enemy

[@AshTheBananaLad]

The style meter character just kinda sounds like susanno'o from BBCF. (also I see the dmc inspiration cuz in dmc3 when Dante gets higher style meter moves called "crazy combos" will either get more hits or change properties which is rlly cool and rewards you for stylish play)

[@aidanmeli3898]

Gwen, we need this girl in a fighting game.

[@irasac1]

brother are you doing the Sakura and Ino dance from OG Naruto ending 2?

[@chilly8742]

Glad to find a fellow gnar enjoyer🤝

[@RescuedBoss97]

I just want either a robot character being blitzcrank or a freak fighter being fiddlesticks

[@SirPotato43]

"This game needs a villain" my man you already showed Mordekaiser, but viego's idea was sick

[@gtoktas83]

I would add AZIR as the puppet char. he can conjure sand soldier as he likes, he can either dash to them or have them dash, attack from them and even summon soldiers with shields to block the enemy, he also has a cool laser spear that I want to be able to use.

[@zenitsukamado8595]

by the puppet charakters my idea was annie or ivern they fit so much more i think

[@mataburt]

I have an idea that i haven't seen anywhere else: Kindred as a duo set. If you choose Kindred you tag between Wolf/Lamb. Wolf is rushdown, Lamb is a zoner. they could have a unique mechanic like shared meter/ quicker tags or you could have two different versions where the second vers. is your puppet character idea etc. Or Riven, where her sword gains range/ power depending on her meter level, which creates the decision between maintaining high meter without using it for better damage or trading that damage for meter usage. That is exactly how using her ult in league feels like. (Oh, I just got to the Riven part of the video.) This is a really good list and I agree with 80% of it. But knowing Riot, they probably want to put more "marketable" characters in 2XKO. Caitlyn does the same things as Jhin (ranged zoner with traps) + has the Arcane popularity Akali. Because Riot loves shoving Akali into everything they make. (she's in TWO bands, and why was she even in the coven skin line?) but she is a cool choice for a fighting game tbh. Gnar is a cool choice, but I thought you were going to put in Braum who the community loves, he's a big tanky shield guy give him a shield block that destroys projectiles or even let his push block reflect projectiles.

[@Clever0]

Briar should be in the game, she takes health from her opponent based on a bleed attack her heal increases at lower (so middle fingers up to your opponent), but a lot of moves require her using her health. Briar also has her Blood Frenzy where you lose control of movement and your attack (have the Briar cycle through a few random combos, still not sure taking away attack control would be fine), but ability activation is still possible. She also would have short range while not in Blood Frenzy because of her pillory making getting in close very important, and she has a lot of move that are about jumping and flipping around. Her assists can include Certain Death (hit the enemy where every they are on screen combo filler or make moves safe) and/or Chilling Scream (slowing enemies down). She would be a Glass Cannon/ Zoner Breaker character with plenty of helpful assist to keep your teammate in the fight and keeping on pressure but would have to be careful because of her health reliance and Bloody Frenzy making you lose control. [Not about character instead of calling it 2XKO call it Double-Cross Knockout]

[@Josefuumii]

sett and briar, these are my needs.

[@Spartantag676]

Imagine you get a hard knockdown on GP and now he has Barrel Oki and you just cant wake up woth buttons or he blows you up. Or he uses his oranges as a lvl 1 super to heal/break out of a combo instantly.

[@nanodose]

Honestly we could have a game mode of just big characters with Mordekaiser, Galio, Cho'Gath, Nautilus, Malphite, Aurelion Sol, Ornn, Volibear, and of course, the Poro King

[@MC.Tengu00]

Blitzs being in the game would be more interesting to see than possibly sett

[@VegaVibing]

style is like manon medals mixed with jamie drinks

[@cuack7413]

when you said puppet characters i was thinking more of Vex and Ivern

[@alfredogonzalez419]

All the damn top laners and Jax as the god damn master of arms who solos all of leagues roster in lore