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Videntis

Videntis

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@RomanPickle
@RomanPickle Жыл бұрын
I loved the part where a 1918 Italian diplomat walked in the discussion room and requested permission to “let me cook”. Truly ahead of his time
@cuh5018
@cuh5018 Жыл бұрын
Time stamp please 😭
@moxxierathe
@moxxierathe Жыл бұрын
@@cuh5018 37:58
@corneliusmcmuffin3256
@corneliusmcmuffin3256 Жыл бұрын
It’s what the Italians do best after all. Their food is legendary.
@JustAToiletSmoking
@JustAToiletSmoking Жыл бұрын
Im italian. That is a huge relate
@leoprimed3556
@leoprimed3556 Жыл бұрын
I came to the comments for this
@kingofgringos1007
@kingofgringos1007 Жыл бұрын
"What about the Bulgarian minority in Macedonia? What about that?" "You lost the war!" Average Balkans debate
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
yeah bulgaria was wrecked here, they got no support
@robinruppert1554
@robinruppert1554 Жыл бұрын
Bulgaria should join either sebia or Rome
@petrupiscoi921
@petrupiscoi921 Жыл бұрын
funny that this ideea wasnt implied to an austroungarian empire than still wished for Transivlanya fully- im Romanian
@Kannot2023
@Kannot2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@petrupiscoi921before 1914 Bulgarian wanted Romanian king to be theirs, and in 1919 the Hungarians wanted Ferdinand Hohenzollern as their king
@QuinnMillner
@QuinnMillner 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be Bulgaria if they didn’t try to gain more territory from losing a war
@indomitablesloth2437
@indomitablesloth2437 Жыл бұрын
I agree -- they definitely secured peace in Europe for at least the next three months.
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Жыл бұрын
It also Europe to create a some what more proper balance in Europe and creation of multiple more nations to help maintain that balance.
@francescoparisi1081
@francescoparisi1081 Жыл бұрын
@@eidoneverchoosen1171 ‘Cause of course since the introduction of nation-states Europe has been more peaceful 🙄
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 Жыл бұрын
@@francescoparisi1081 Clearly more peacefull than at the time of small lords ruling morbillions of little counties constantly at war with each other
@Albanian1government
@Albanian1government Жыл бұрын
No it will probably will start insurgents wars in Greece and if ww2 happens it would be a 3 front war for greece
@Otterdisappointment
@Otterdisappointment Жыл бұрын
Well you never know there could be some actual dialogue before people fight over territory now that Germany is out of the picture
@romanrepublic
@romanrepublic Жыл бұрын
Greece: 5k losses, fucking triples in size Italy: 1 million losses, doesn't even gain lands that were promised to her 3 years prior
@TylerB17
@TylerB17 Жыл бұрын
Ya but Greece probably lost some extra people taking the land with the British
@andreamarino6010
@andreamarino6010 Жыл бұрын
Plus Greece qill become like 50% turk like that
@PizzaEXP
@PizzaEXP Жыл бұрын
​@@andreamarino6010Not that much probably 20-40% at this time these lands still had Greeks in them
@andreamarino6010
@andreamarino6010 Жыл бұрын
@@PizzaEXP if you took only coastal cities it would ptobably be only 10%, but if yoy take the entire regions... Check on wikipedia the census of 1914, you will see that muslims were the majority in the region, except for Smyrne maybe
@omerkaanmoral5759
@omerkaanmoral5759 Жыл бұрын
true
@TheMasonK
@TheMasonK Жыл бұрын
“This is not peace, this is an armistice of 20 days” 😂
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Жыл бұрын
Try 10. I am sure their are plenty of unhappy civilians among the these nations lol.
@TheMasonK
@TheMasonK Жыл бұрын
@@eidoneverchoosen1171 lol it was really just a play on the actual quote “this is not peace, this is an armistice of 20 years.”
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheMasonKyep
@mysterioushomoguy
@mysterioushomoguy 3 ай бұрын
matve 20 minutes😅
@theshoe1391
@theshoe1391 Жыл бұрын
47:50 "we have definitely secured peace in Europe for at least the next 3 months" Seems about right
@Polskie573
@Polskie573 Жыл бұрын
more like 2 weeks
@theshoe1391
@theshoe1391 Жыл бұрын
@@Polskie573 nah the ppl need time to process how ingenuous this is. It's like the stages of greif. First month is denial, second is acceptance, third is war
@Polskie573
@Polskie573 Жыл бұрын
@@theshoe1391 makes sense :L
@Albanian1government
@Albanian1government Жыл бұрын
Nah Europa would have so many insurgents in their claimed lands so much that they will get in a civil war 💀
@themakebelieverproductions6342
@themakebelieverproductions6342 Жыл бұрын
Ferdinand Foch would've still said his "This is only a 20 year armistice" thing, but now all I can imagine is Karl the 1st saying this quote now.
@theChaosKe
@theChaosKe Жыл бұрын
Germany in the next five minutes: "So when are we uniting with Austria?"
@specil-k
@specil-k Жыл бұрын
Assyrian player here, Turkey got robbed but I'm very satisfied with what we were able to accomplish and this is a grand video
@elite4702
@elite4702 Жыл бұрын
actually impressed you got accurate borders ngl
@bdawgrise6961
@bdawgrise6961 Жыл бұрын
She achieved her natural borders! 😂
@omerkaanmoral5759
@omerkaanmoral5759 Жыл бұрын
yea other than greek part its pretty good
@Khajiidaro
@Khajiidaro Жыл бұрын
Imo Turkey will most likely join what ever alliance promises them land in the next war considering their heavy loss of territory and thus makes them a major issue for more wars.
@raiantonnyferreiraoliveira8198
@raiantonnyferreiraoliveira8198 Жыл бұрын
​@@Khajiidaro well, i think turkey can just only fund rebelious turks organizations in anatolia, it's just greece, they can try to defend itself, and i think they can even maintain thrace and constantinople, but any holding in anatolia is just asking to be robbed
@devinconyers6430
@devinconyers6430 Жыл бұрын
I was both the Luxembourg & Hungarian player. It’s a shame the new Kingdom of Jerusalem didn’t come into fruition, but the Habsburg’s came out on top in the end! Peace for at least 3 months indeed!
@phoenixlegion8736
@phoenixlegion8736 Жыл бұрын
Oooga booga
@frozenpea1848
@frozenpea1848 Жыл бұрын
you definetly made this video 10x funnier than it already was haha
@Kevin-cc7eq
@Kevin-cc7eq Жыл бұрын
Glory to the Kingdom of Jerusalem of Luxembourg
@KartingRules
@KartingRules Жыл бұрын
Legend
@Tony-zi9qg
@Tony-zi9qg Жыл бұрын
It's so impressive how unstable this result looks
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
nah its looks so stable, the most stable europe ever lol
@eukgiergios
@eukgiergios Жыл бұрын
@@Videntis.HistoryAs a greek, I approve.
@DontKnow-hr5my
@DontKnow-hr5my Жыл бұрын
Austria just sipping Beer whilst the world around them burns, can see them just waiting for everyone around them to weaken and then have Germany join them for a german superstate
@starhalv2427
@starhalv2427 Жыл бұрын
​@@eukgiergios Greece straight up being a majority muslim country in this reality 😂 Turkey won't even need to invade, separatism will do it's work as soon as British start going home.
@roiwelboren9302
@roiwelboren9302 Жыл бұрын
​@@starhalv2427 yeah lmao
@kaiserconnorproductions3067
@kaiserconnorproductions3067 Жыл бұрын
Turkey was DEFINITELY the nation that got the worst deal compared to our timeline. They lost practically every important city expect Ankara as well as over half their land. Turkey is defiantly going to go fascist or ultra nationalist in the future.
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
Maybe they go communist
@ricardogomes3820
@ricardogomes3820 Жыл бұрын
What about Bulgaria?
@StalkerX426
@StalkerX426 Жыл бұрын
This is the main reason of Why you's shouldn't make overly harsh treaties.
@isaacskinner5565
@isaacskinner5565 Жыл бұрын
@@ricardogomes3820the difference is how much weaker Bulgaria would be, they just wouldn’t pose a threat to any of their neighbours in a one on one battle
@checkmate590
@checkmate590 Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT, ALEXANDER, THERE'S A METAL GEAR RISING FROM THE WATER. Wait, why is it shaped like a kebab? OH, SHIT ITS RUNNING TOWARDS US, FUCK... (they were never heard from again)
@bonjourianben
@bonjourianben Жыл бұрын
Luxemburg wanting a Catholic crusader state in Israel is great 😂
@darkii4978
@darkii4978 Жыл бұрын
As a Luxembourger I apprrove of these visions.
@Jester343
@Jester343 Жыл бұрын
​@@darkii4978 You're not a luxembourger, you're a luxury burger.
@pumgee
@pumgee Жыл бұрын
As a luxembourger too i also approve@@darkii4978
@goodguyben6716
@goodguyben6716 Жыл бұрын
Based Luxembourg
@roiwelboren9302
@roiwelboren9302 Жыл бұрын
​@@darkii4978 as an israeli I invite you to invade (I'm not catholic)
@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235
@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235 Жыл бұрын
Austria didn't even really lose that much in the treaty! It was still fun to be apart even if I was a nervous wreck.
@kaiserconnorproductions3067
@kaiserconnorproductions3067 Жыл бұрын
I’m proud that the catholic Habsburgs will continue their rule over the Danube under a more democratic and autonomous rule. You guys did great and I hope the Habsburg realms and Germany will stabilize Central Europe under constitutional monarchism for the far future.
@ricardogomes3820
@ricardogomes3820 Жыл бұрын
I think they even got out stronger then they were somehow.
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
@@ricardogomes3820 austria losing the world war and expanding🧠
@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235
@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235 Жыл бұрын
@@Videntis.History they pitied the bad performance of Austria lmao
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
@@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235austria was so bad everyone decided they needed more germans for stability and still gave them all of central europe while reviving the roman empire🤣
@flyingfortress15
@flyingfortress15 Жыл бұрын
"Poland demands some small concessions from the Germans" *Asks for 1/3 of their remaining land
@Amicable29
@Amicable29 Жыл бұрын
We'll discuss. Let's go back 123 years, then Poland also had the entire Greater Poland and Pomerania with an undeniable majority. In 1918, the majority of Poles still ruled these lands, especially Greater Poland
@Amicable29
@Amicable29 Жыл бұрын
This number of the Polish population decreased due to Germanization. Galicia was also Polish for 600 years
@Yanxve
@Yanxve 11 ай бұрын
@@Amicable29 What do you mean "123 years"? Greater Poland, even as far back as 1450, was germanized in the upper prussian lands (With no exception for the polish corridor). Silesia was slavic, but not polish. 123 years ago, however, would be 1901, and by that time the ethnic composition was already pretty much the same as the time the treaty is being done, even if less german.
@Yanxve
@Yanxve 11 ай бұрын
@@Amicable29 Regarding the claim that galicia was polish for 600 years, it was only the western parts, not the eastern ones.
@paulinalevina9690
@paulinalevina9690 8 ай бұрын
@@Yanxve He means 123 years ago from 1918 perspective, so that would be 1795, not 1901
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Жыл бұрын
Most realistic senario are the peace talks between Israel and the Arabs
@Mr_OogaBooga
@Mr_OogaBooga Жыл бұрын
Ong
@zyanego3170
@zyanego3170 Жыл бұрын
I guess the Faisal-Weizmann agreement succeeded here
@Idontlikethebritish
@Idontlikethebritish Жыл бұрын
They were so simple with it too 😂 imagine if thats how it was in real life
@fakeskyler2305
@fakeskyler2305 Жыл бұрын
@@Idontlikethebritish Israel player here: Turns out all you need to do is talk to them 🤷
@Idontlikethebritish
@Idontlikethebritish Жыл бұрын
@@fakeskyler2305 thats what they do irl tho lol
@liamfarrell2215
@liamfarrell2215 Жыл бұрын
"We've definitely secured peace in europe for at least the next 3 months" sums up the entire video well
@Heath580
@Heath580 Жыл бұрын
I love how it immediately got more uncivilized when they got to the Balkans. Very realistic
@Lord_Of_Aether
@Lord_Of_Aether Жыл бұрын
As the China player, I can confirm that this is a decisive Chinese victory
@mrsillytacos
@mrsillytacos Жыл бұрын
Hi aether
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 Жыл бұрын
aether moment
@roiwelboren9302
@roiwelboren9302 Жыл бұрын
Live aether reaction
@englishpolishmememan8892
@englishpolishmememan8892 Жыл бұрын
"Peace in Europe is secured for at least the next three months" Couldn't say it better myself
@LaneCorbett
@LaneCorbett Жыл бұрын
"Gentlemen we have achieved peace in Europe for at least 3 months!" They would get home from the war and have to turn around and go back at it again. Seriously though that Map would make a good HOI4 Mod
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
that would be cool, i would love to see it
@barsukascool
@barsukascool Жыл бұрын
@@Videntis.Historyhi, man, i’m new here. I signed up to the game like 4 days ago… What do I do? Do I wait for a personal message in Discord? And from who? How will I know if I apply and how will I join? Will there be some link? Thanks bro
@zacharymcgivern551
@zacharymcgivern551 Жыл бұрын
Never let discord mods into office 💀💀
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
this treaty is WORSE
@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235
@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235 Жыл бұрын
Way worse for my glorious Romania 😭
@williambroad9
@williambroad9 Жыл бұрын
Guaranteed to explode into conflict in a year, also not demilitarizing the losers of the war and letting them get bigger definitely means a few governments are about to get overthrown for the "victors"
@losisansgaming2628
@losisansgaming2628 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the dalmatian debate was pretty heated. What I think would be a fond compromise is Istria goes to Italy with a dalmatian republic going from Zara south to Dubrovnik(ragusa) as those lands were historically ruled by the Italians of Venice and ragusa
@MG_Mapper
@MG_Mapper Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we’re getting a part
@dealyzz1558
@dealyzz1558 Жыл бұрын
@@theunspokenwarsoffiction2235 you think it looks bad for you ? I am Bulgarian ...can you imagine the amount of war crimes we do commit the next time we are given the chance ?
@DynastyMapping
@DynastyMapping Жыл бұрын
As the Arabian player, this was tons of fun to do. Looking forward to whats next.
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@roiwelboren9302
@roiwelboren9302 Жыл бұрын
I think you and the other actually did better than the actual treaty
@flygon6997
@flygon6997 10 ай бұрын
​@@roiwelboren9302I agree
@buttersurge8047
@buttersurge8047 Жыл бұрын
Germany and Austria Hungary definitely got off easy, and Greeces foreign policy bordered on the insane 😂
@diegoyqulki
@diegoyqulki Жыл бұрын
Not even a Greek Otto von Bismarck would have achieved such a diplomatic feat 😅
@wilsonriley1856
@wilsonriley1856 Жыл бұрын
They did have the unconditional support of the British though, so it is reasonable with that taken into consideration
@juanitoarcoiris5824
@juanitoarcoiris5824 Жыл бұрын
Greece be literally like: I like land
@Tabako-san
@Tabako-san Жыл бұрын
​@@wilsonriley1856 Considering Greece couldn't even hold on to Western Thrace or Ionia given to it in the real life Treaty of Sèvres, I think the British were beyond bordering insanity handing the territory to Greece, her military, and very notably incompetent officers who were described as delusional by most military scholars during the embarrassing Greco-Turkish war where they lost to an opponent of equal number fighting using a lot of donated privately owned rifles and a uniform half made up of sandals and underclothes requisitioned from random Turkish households across Anatolia and a couple Soviet loans. If the real life Entente's major powers couldn't hold on to a divided Turkey irl it just wasn't going to happen at all.
@samuraidom6542
@samuraidom6542 Жыл бұрын
Hungary deserves to get off easy, even in our timeline they were against war but still got punished the harshest out of all the Axis. The monarchy is a questionable move in this alternate universe but at least Hunagry got its rightful lands
@Machiavellistyczny
@Machiavellistyczny Жыл бұрын
Austria and Italy being Real friends for the first time
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
🎵for the first time forever 🎵
@Machiavellistyczny
@Machiavellistyczny Жыл бұрын
@@Videntis.History we will Get continuation Yes?
@blobona4810
@blobona4810 Жыл бұрын
Poland betted it all and lost it all RIP
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
Go big or go home, they want home 😂
@9000k4
@9000k4 Жыл бұрын
Homie should have been more humble
@flygon6997
@flygon6997 10 ай бұрын
Poland wasn't even trying to go big
@limeliciousmapping4652
@limeliciousmapping4652 Жыл бұрын
Amazing idea for a video, and what high quality it is at the same time. You basically recreated the PH streams with way more members, and made it actually a lot more easy to follow, Kudos!
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I hope this video does well so I can do more of these in the future
@konnoroesterblad8398
@konnoroesterblad8398 Жыл бұрын
​@@Videntis.HistoryCan't wait for part 2! Also I'd love to see a ww2 peace deal like this with the treaty of paris.
@ThatEzekielGuy
@ThatEzekielGuy Жыл бұрын
I was playing as Estonia and I must say that Poland trying to be ultra expansionist was dumb and actually never planned nor recognized by the other Intermarium players
@taffingtonboathouse5754
@taffingtonboathouse5754 Жыл бұрын
Ayup ukraine from 2023 here I think I had a bad time
@tom_demarco
@tom_demarco 7 ай бұрын
No it wasn't. Uk and france are at fault for not being historically accurate and supporting polish claims
@morganvikings_
@morganvikings_ Жыл бұрын
Germany and Austria the whole video: “THERES ALSO GERMANS THERE”
@DontKnow-hr5my
@DontKnow-hr5my Жыл бұрын
Austria honestly only really made net bonuses, gaining the southern German states, strengthened their core and more importantly losing the instability of having to deal with the Balkans. This almost looks like they fought on the side of the Allies and won.
@MrArth13
@MrArth13 Жыл бұрын
Least effective Austrian diplomat:
@Draktand01
@Draktand01 Жыл бұрын
The German Austrian Alliance essentially got off scott free, even if they internally redistributed some land some land. Realistically, nobody would accept these terms without some of their land being ceded to the allies, or to some neutral country.
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
france got more land here and the austrians lost croatia
@ShaunTripp
@ShaunTripp Жыл бұрын
@amliko8381the fact that Czechoslovakia wasn’t given all of historical Bohemia was annoying.
@Melonspawn
@Melonspawn Жыл бұрын
Luxembourg had some GOALS for Jerusalem 😂😂😂😂
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Жыл бұрын
Dat ass gutt!
@fard6703
@fard6703 Жыл бұрын
Wish it happened in real life.
@bigbo1764
@bigbo1764 Жыл бұрын
“Um what about the Bulgarian minority in makedonia🤓 “You lost the war🗿”
@thebottlewithoutalix2806
@thebottlewithoutalix2806 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like the premise of getting with a few people and rewriting a historical treaty. I saw the collab you did with Possible History and a few others a while back and that's when I started looking out for your channel, glad I did!
@iansmokoski9788
@iansmokoski9788 Жыл бұрын
This is legitamately one of the best "(blank) treaty redone" videos I've seen. A WWII would be aces
@clymaaax
@clymaaax Жыл бұрын
i loved the italian player "let me cook" or "well never say never because the roman empire once owned the suez", incredibly based
@jeffthebovine4158
@jeffthebovine4158 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love how Austria comes out with more ethnically homogeneous land than they started with
@lawden210
@lawden210 Жыл бұрын
"Let me cook" -Italian diplomat, 1919
@givemeawand
@givemeawand Жыл бұрын
I was the Armenian player. The treaty was really fun, even though I think Greece got away with too much. I like that I was able to achieve all my major strategic goals. Can’t wait for the medieval rp to start!
@thebalkanhistorian.3205
@thebalkanhistorian.3205 Жыл бұрын
🇬🇷 on top of
@roiwelboren9302
@roiwelboren9302 Жыл бұрын
​​@@thebalkanhistorian.3205 yes Greece is on top of
@EternalZoroark
@EternalZoroark Жыл бұрын
wow that's ironic for the one who got completely decimated by the Turks lmao, but yeah I definitely agree too
@fard6703
@fard6703 Жыл бұрын
@@thebalkanhistorian.3205Amen
@tom_demarco
@tom_demarco 7 ай бұрын
You were really dumb for not being historically accurate and not supporting the state of czechia as well as not supporting the separation of the catholic countries.
@hargoxd9558
@hargoxd9558 Жыл бұрын
"we've secured peace for at least 3 months" 💀💀💀
@ant_cosacco1306
@ant_cosacco1306 Жыл бұрын
We we absolutely need of the part 2!!! I want to see the newly reunited Roman Empire between Italy and Greece
@ryanmoelker1688
@ryanmoelker1688 Жыл бұрын
As the greece player this was hella fun. Byzantine restored 💪
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 Жыл бұрын
Greeces ‘wet’ dreams
@achaeanmapping4408
@achaeanmapping4408 Жыл бұрын
You made us proud 🇬🇷 🇬🇷 🇬🇷
@pucci405
@pucci405 Жыл бұрын
Constantine XI o7
@starhalv2427
@starhalv2427 Жыл бұрын
Byzantium straight up being a majority muslim country in that reality 😂😂😂
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 Жыл бұрын
@@starhalv2427 And Greece gets this for barely participating in the war and even had many who didn’t want to join the war.
@Mr_OogaBooga
@Mr_OogaBooga Жыл бұрын
Bro this treaty is fucking wild XD, I love the Eastern Roman Empire! Roma Est Invicta! Long live the Baselios!
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Жыл бұрын
This treaty us more fair and it maintain and restores the balance of Europe as has been done for centuries.
@Mr_OogaBooga
@Mr_OogaBooga Жыл бұрын
@@eidoneverchoosen1171 real
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 Жыл бұрын
@@eidoneverchoosen1171Restoring that balance and peace to Europe as it had been during the war
@emilianohermosilla3996
@emilianohermosilla3996 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!!
@OstlandReichkomissariat
@OstlandReichkomissariat 3 ай бұрын
I’m actually convinced this entire peace deal was a rage bait
@sottourr
@sottourr 7 ай бұрын
The fact that you manage to make the Versailles treaty look good, has got to be some sort of achievement
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
The rest of Asia was added to the Medieval Game. So sign up if you want to play in Europe or Asia. discord: discord.gg/aKttKmVtvc sign up sheet: forms.gle/etrHSjtNGTJNwvW59
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Youre awesome man! Always look forward to your content!
@LoganverseS1
@LoganverseS1 Жыл бұрын
Will there be another one of these
@JoshuaBrown14
@JoshuaBrown14 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Videntis for letting me speak as the United Kingdom now listening to the audio it is a little obvious that I wasn’t with the others 😅 again thanks so much for allowing me to fill in
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
For sure
@sos5275
@sos5275 Жыл бұрын
I loved your role as the UK! You did great
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji Жыл бұрын
You played perfectly accurate UK of that time
@solo_leo4454
@solo_leo4454 Жыл бұрын
bro I was saying so much stuff during the proposals but none of it recorded. Most of the stuff you said though did cover what I was thinking so it worked out in the end (I was the original UK diplomat)
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji Жыл бұрын
@@solo_leo4454 How would you consider Bulgaria's situation
@livethefuture2492
@livethefuture2492 Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! Love to see more like this.
@CamFViz11
@CamFViz11 Жыл бұрын
I’d join the medieval one but I don’t have the time and don’t really wanna hold anyone back on their things
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
all good
@ruasonid8407
@ruasonid8407 Жыл бұрын
Italy player here! The peace treaty was a lot of fun! 😃
@warcriminalgaming2359
@warcriminalgaming2359 Жыл бұрын
Greetings as Portugal
@brabius2695
@brabius2695 Жыл бұрын
@@warcriminalgaming2359 cool
@GustavoHenrique-ml1xf
@GustavoHenrique-ml1xf Жыл бұрын
Glory to us Brazil says
@solo_leo4454
@solo_leo4454 Жыл бұрын
Dalmatia moment
@brabius2695
@brabius2695 Жыл бұрын
@@GustavoHenrique-ml1xf opa um br aí ó
@thephotoshopper5908
@thephotoshopper5908 Жыл бұрын
As a Greek I approve. Greece definitely got way too good a deal.
@kiesarisunny13
@kiesarisunny13 Жыл бұрын
WE RETAKING CONSTANTINOPLE WITH THIS ONE BOYS!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@raven_1133
@raven_1133 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a sequel to this with the Paris Peace Treaties, which would include Italy, Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, and Poland, even possibly Russia, as the Axis Powers, trying to gain the lands which they consider are rightfully theirs. I just think it would be cool.
@fyrf0x8910
@fyrf0x8910 11 ай бұрын
PLEASE REDO THIS WITH ANOTHER HISTORIC TREATY PLEASE! THIS WAS SOOO ENTERTAINING
@Minilla-td3lv
@Minilla-td3lv 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@Mr_OogaBooga
@Mr_OogaBooga Жыл бұрын
I am the Lithuania player and it's been a pleasure
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel with being betrayed and annexed by White Ruthenia (Belarus) tho?
@flygon6997
@flygon6997 10 ай бұрын
​@@Pigraider268it's sad but hey Poland made that decision
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Love your content man! thanks for all your hardwork! Suggestion: What if Henry the Young King (Son and heir of Henry II of england) survived and he managed to maintain the Angevin Empire?
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Жыл бұрын
He may have won the hundred years war much earlier and annex france into England.
@warcriminalgaming2359
@warcriminalgaming2359 Жыл бұрын
Portugal here, this was fun (even if I missed some of it 💀)
@GustavoHenrique-ml1xf
@GustavoHenrique-ml1xf Жыл бұрын
At least we got it friend (Brazil)
@indomitablesloth2437
@indomitablesloth2437 Жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when you included the F1 radio sound effect 🤣🤣
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
5 sec penalty for ocon
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 Жыл бұрын
Pity I wasnt able to join in as the brazilian player, since I couldnt use my Discord at the time, though I think my compatriot did a good job Awesome vid and looking forward to see if there will be a sequel to this scenario
@zlboyle90
@zlboyle90 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this continue, we all can tell that this outcome will definitely lead to so many wars breaking out in the future.
@vicrai578
@vicrai578 Жыл бұрын
As a French with Polish heritage I find this thumbnail quite appealing
@DimitrisKalliantasis
@DimitrisKalliantasis 11 ай бұрын
Greece with 5k casualties becoming the Roman Empire while Italy with 1 million loses gets only South Tyrol, Istria and half of Albania, that is wild, fair play to Britain
@CosmicDalmatian
@CosmicDalmatian Жыл бұрын
Turkey and Bulgaria got unreasonably harsh peace treaties as it will turn out that almost half of their populations lives outside than inside of their respective countries. Also Italians were around 5% of dalamtian population at highest and not higher than 20% in cities, and in Istra Italians were never over 50% of population, and in 1900. were just ⅓ of total Istrian population. And on theme about Zadar (Zara), Rijeka (Fiume), Pula (Pola) and Trst (Trieste) Italians there made up maybe a little above 50% but never were absolute majority expecially cities like Trst and Rijeka who were multicultural and never had any majority.
@rubiksspil
@rubiksspil Жыл бұрын
where did you get that map from? i kinda wanna use it
@eduardowalsh9418
@eduardowalsh9418 Жыл бұрын
This is totally interrsting, i would love more videos like this. I'm gonna subscribe now
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Dougoul
@Dougoul Жыл бұрын
The people who were roleplaying this really did a good job at this!
@gamergodeighty1686
@gamergodeighty1686 Жыл бұрын
Having Ukraine and Russia in the same room wasn’t the best idea
@thecolorblue9609
@thecolorblue9609 Жыл бұрын
peace has truly been accomplished
@KhalilMurray-ei1rd
@KhalilMurray-ei1rd Жыл бұрын
Yep I can't see in anyway this could end in war in a couple of days 😅
@amir_iceking
@amir_iceking Жыл бұрын
Croatia player here, i got myself a bit of state but damn we lost our slovenia
@bosanski_Cevap
@bosanski_Cevap Жыл бұрын
That divided Bosnia hurts my Bosnian ass
@amir_iceking
@amir_iceking Жыл бұрын
@@bosanski_Cevap sorry bro, you're now part of two states
@Boretheory
@Boretheory Жыл бұрын
@@amir_icekingas an Italian who’s ancestors used to inhabit dalmatia, u didn’t deserve an inch of land
@amir_iceking
@amir_iceking Жыл бұрын
@@Boretheory cope and seethe :trollface:
@xymyan
@xymyan Жыл бұрын
This is something I would actually love to participate in, either as Czechia or Armenia. Great idea to make such an event!
@anvos658
@anvos658 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and better than many I've seen, though I think the Poland delegate went a bit off the rails instead of being willing to counter propose something more reasonable from their primary demand, when they did have sea access through Lithuania being united into Poland. Also I don't get how Germany giving Austria lands is a concession worth not losing other stuff, when Austria was on the German side.
@sirturtleII
@sirturtleII Жыл бұрын
5:45 (If I were the Croatian representative): Yes, Italians do live on the Istrian and Dalmatian coasts. Venice did at one time control these territories, but ethnically, the two are drastically different. According to the Austro-Hungarian census of 1910, Italians are a relative majority of 356,000, or 40%, of the population of the Austrian Littoral, most of whom live along the Adriatic coast. In Dalmatia, however, of its 635,000 people, only 18,000 identify as Italian. Zadar, the capital of the Dalmatian kingdom and the city with the most ethnic Italians, were only shown to represent about 18.6% of its population. If we, the representatives here today, were to give the Dalmatian coast to Italy, it would only heighten ethnic tensions in the region and possibly bring about another ethnic conflict in the Balkans. Let this meeting remind ourselves that the Habsburg Empire, under its domain over numerous ethnic and linguistically separate territories, became both one of the main contributing factors to its downfall and what ultimately started the Great War. What we believe would be in the best interest of the Croatian and Italian peoples would be to draw Istria under ethnic lines and give their respective territory to the nations of their proper tongue, ceding the Italian-majority city of Fiume to Italy and giving the territory once belonging to the Kingdom of Dalmatia to the Croatian state.
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
damn
@sirturtleII
@sirturtleII Жыл бұрын
@@Videntis.History I have a problem
@chuckluck846
@chuckluck846 Жыл бұрын
Aint reading allat
@Noddiz
@Noddiz Жыл бұрын
« Never ask the British to draw borders » has never been as true as with Greece 😂
@solo_leo4454
@solo_leo4454 Жыл бұрын
hey i didnt want this lol
@whitezombie10
@whitezombie10 8 ай бұрын
“This is not a peace, this is a 20 seconds armistice”
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 Жыл бұрын
If there is a WWII in this timeline, I can see the Turks being more involved with the Axis. Also, there was no mention of Japan, therefore the Empire of Japan still rises. Also, what about the Irish? Do they still get the Irish Free State or will Indian Independence mean full independence for the entirety of Ireland?
@cdcdrr
@cdcdrr 8 ай бұрын
*Britain:* Looking for backs to put knives into. *Germany:* Ranting about ethnic germans belonging in a german nation, and playing the victim. *Russia:* Claims to be protecting russian-speakers in what is definately not an invasion. *Italy:* Tries to recreate the Roman Empire. *Greece:* Recreates the Roman Empire. *Austria:* Recreates the Holy Roman Empire. *America:* Helps to make a mess of things, proudly declares "mission accomplished" and buggers off to let the natives deal with the consequences. Why does this all seem so familiar?
@MrLightonyx
@MrLightonyx Жыл бұрын
So the idea of this project is really really good and i love it. The only issue for me is cleary those players just love alternate history but have 0 geopolitical knowledge, like the british just act as the all powerfull mediator in every theatre with 0 opposition of other great power. And it's a bit sad that the political situation of the state does nothing for the negotiations. Like austria Hungary was a crumbling state way before 1918 and i really think not a single political figure in any old hasburgian land would say that they are good at multi ethnic empire. And the Kayser just couldnt stay in power with spartakyst uprising in Germany. And finaly i dont understant how the wars during négociations would happend that easily and end up in thoses results. Like IRL Turkey fought and won against a fairer treaty against Greece, Britain and France. And you want me to belive they got crush instant against just Britain and greece ? Wile Britain would also be involved in the russian civil War ?
@dehtyarUA
@dehtyarUA Жыл бұрын
"Poland, this is bonkers." (c) Lloyd George, Treaty of Versailles, 1919.
@Tonybob12
@Tonybob12 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Germany or Austria will be as aggressive as they where in our timeline, fascism won’t rise in those countries. But just like in our timeline, you have gifted Italy to fascism, and possibly Spain later.
@guderianunderlsd
@guderianunderlsd Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Italy got even less land of irl, Mussolini will have an easy time gaining support from the veterans
@Tonybob12
@Tonybob12 Жыл бұрын
@@guderianunderlsd here’s another question, was Japan included in this? Because if it was and there was a player, and he didn’t get a say, then japan also falls to fascism.
@guderianunderlsd
@guderianunderlsd Жыл бұрын
@@Tonybob12 well It wasn't technicaly fascism but you have a point
@grelkie
@grelkie 7 ай бұрын
Turkey probably too
@invisible7719
@invisible7719 Жыл бұрын
I am Caflic and usual when I watch videos about history almost no one even touches on the Caflic religion so you have no idea how happy I am just to hear them talking about it
@Videntis.History
@Videntis.History Жыл бұрын
cool
@joeboah6040
@joeboah6040 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean, Catholic?
@hsgame4088
@hsgame4088 Жыл бұрын
​@@joeboah6040bruh
@invisible7719
@invisible7719 Жыл бұрын
@@joeboah6040 Yes
@iskanderaga-ali3353
@iskanderaga-ali3353 Жыл бұрын
💀
@konnosx1213
@konnosx1213 Жыл бұрын
As a Greek I approve of this
@rmartinson19
@rmartinson19 Жыл бұрын
Greece, Belarus, Serbia and India are probably the biggest winners. Britain gets honorable mention for acquiring so many new important port cities, but the loss of India outweighed all of their gains by a wide margin. Not to mention how India successfully defeating the Empire might have triggered other nationalist uprisings down the line. That move alone probably shaved 10-15 years off of the life-span of the British Empire. Aside from the territorial losses, it sounds like Germany got off with basically a slap on the wrist. No armament restrictions, no reparations, just the cession of land to France and Austria and the loss of their rather meager colonial possessions in Africa. I'd bet the Hohenzollerns wouldn't have too much trouble holding onto power in this scenario, since they probably wouldn't have the same kind of extreme economic depression that the Weimar Republic had to contend with in the '20s. The Kaiserreich has lost the majority of its navy, but has maintained the majority of its population and industry and hasn't been disarmed at all. I think it was an interesting play by Britain to lean so hard into more lenient terms for Germany, probably with the goal of being able to counter the French on the Continent in anticipation of conflict with them in the future. Interestingly, I also heard no mention of Tsingtao, Kaiser-Wilhelmsland or Germany's other Pacific holdings. Did everyone just forget about them, or was Germany allowed to keep it's Asiatic colonies? And as an aside, I find it hilarious and completely justified how basically everyone said "Yeah, screw the Bolsheviks" and just started stripping land away from them 😂
@solo_leo4454
@solo_leo4454 Жыл бұрын
UK player here, the odds were super stacked against the Indians but the mechanic allowed them to win the war somehow they got super lucky. Also, the British empire in this scenario would likely live longer I believe, or maintain a strong maritime presence, as I secured every choke point of the Mediterranean, and off screen I was intending to form some imperial federation kind of thing. I also co owned Cyprus with Greece in exchange for the Gallipoli treaty port. Persia will be good for resources, and I don’t have to worry about middle eastern colonies as much. Although you are probably right, it would inspire other rebellions, India itself tho will be unstable with the Muslim minorities and other ethnicities. Also we didn’t really do armaments and reparations just land exchange
@rmartinson19
@rmartinson19 Жыл бұрын
@@solo_leo4454 Ah, interesting. Yeah, if the Empire transitioned into a more federated structure, that would probably buy it quite a bit more life. What about the German East Asian colonies? Did those get parceled out as well off-screen, or were they left in tact?
@solo_leo4454
@solo_leo4454 Жыл бұрын
@@rmartinson19 yea we dealt with them off screen
@JonathanGoedeke
@JonathanGoedeke Жыл бұрын
So, who got which pacific colonies@@solo_leo4454
@starhalv2427
@starhalv2427 Жыл бұрын
An important thing about the end of WW1 for Poland, was that with the exception of Danzig being semi-independent and Pomerania going to them, the rest of territorial changes happened not because of Versailles, but because of one of the following: a) Wars with Ukraine, Lithuania and Soviets in the east b) A number of small scale military conflicts between Polish freedom fighters and Germany c) The Polish people of Russia and Austro-Hungary self-organising into a country (Polish people of Germany are under the "b" cathegory) Treaty of Versailles only served to legitimise and set in stone changes that happened mostly on their own. P.S: Man, Greek viewer was just a greedy larper. Historically accurate I guess.
@starhalv2427
@starhalv2427 Жыл бұрын
Alright, here's what'd most likely happen if that version of Versailles was executed: - The Polish uprising in Greater Poland, Silesia, and since in this version of events Poland wasn't given it peacefully Galicia and Pomerania as well. These areas were already full of military conflict at the end of our war, but here with Polish army not tied up fighting the Soviets and Germans being the ones supported by Versailles, I predict a full scale Polish-German war by 1920. - There is no way, absolutely 0 chance Greece can hold the territories they got in this deal. In this reality they've pretty much become a muslim majority population, and I predict they'll implode due to Turkish separatist movement even without Turkish military invasion. They're also likely to be invaded by Bulgaria. Also, if they feel too confident in their national might due to such great territorial gains, they might start a war with Serbia over Northern Macedonia. - Small thing, but I'm 95% sure there's gonna be an Albanian uprising against Italy by 1925. Since the year 1900 they had over 3 uprisings against Ottomans despite being majority muslims, ain't no way they'll accept Italian rule without a fight. - Romania is definitely gonna be dissatisfied and continue the war against Austria-Hungary, much like in history they fought against Hungary over Transylvania. The crucial difference is that this time they hold Bulgarian and Ukrainian territories, so I predict that Austro-Hungary, Ukraine and Bulgaria will join together in a war against them. - Speaking of Austria-Hungary, Czechs and Slovaks are very unlikely to accept to stay in this country, as they were already rising up as a nation by the time Versailles was made. Considering that, maybe with Romanian and Czechs and Slovaks and Polish working together they'll lead to Austro-Hungarian collapse. - Israel will fall. Straight up. - Lithuania/Belarus/Whatever monstrocity was created here controls territories with huge minority populations, especially Polish minority- who'd actually be the second or third biggest ethnicity in that country. Historically there was a conflict between Poland and Lithuania over the city of Vilno itself. Not to mention Estonian and Latvian minority also unlikely to accept that kinda deal. My prediction is that both Poland and Soviets will refuse to recognise that state's very existence, and with high popularity that Soviets had in these territories, especially in Latvia and Belarus, I don't see them surviving. - Israel will not survive a year of existing, unless it renames itself to "Palestine" and adopts Islam as official religion. Until late 1920's AT LEAST there weren't nearly enought Jews in the area compared to how many Arabs there were to constitute a realistic formation of their country. There are tons of examples like those above, but I focused on areas I have enough knowledge about to give an informed opinion.
@mikkelhjorthansen5121
@mikkelhjorthansen5121 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I really liked the video. And I know this is a very small thing but if you do this again can you incloude the descuisson about Slesvig and Holstein?
@gstotty
@gstotty Жыл бұрын
I really love this format! Great job! However, I do think that neither Russia nor Turkey should have been punished this hard
@JonathanGoedeke
@JonathanGoedeke Жыл бұрын
I feel like, with all the additional conflicts rising from the negotiations, this is more of a history of the late 1910s to the 1930s
@joaqvim
@joaqvim Жыл бұрын
the russia part is crazy, that would never happen
@KhalilMurray-ei1rd
@KhalilMurray-ei1rd Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Russians would never and I mean never agree to that
@GregMcNeish
@GregMcNeish Жыл бұрын
I love that "we have solved the Middle East" was an UNCONTESTED statement. What confused me was the entrenchment of the German & Austrian monarchies. Didn't both of those dissolve BEFORE the end of the war?
@samdaman2939
@samdaman2939 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly believe Turkey did not deserve what they got, giving Greece Constantinople basically made a new Great Power in Europe, which could seriously be a threat to countries with interest in the region such as Italy and Britain. Britain should of never backed the Greeks, as it basically gave them a challenger in the Mediterranean. Same goes for Italy.
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Жыл бұрын
Getting Constantinople would had made more sense but even in real life the Greeks wanted all of Asia minor taken back from the turks.
@solo_leo4454
@solo_leo4454 4 ай бұрын
I wanted to strengthen Turkey and puppet them but unfortunately my audio didn’t record so videntis took some free will
@JJLGamingNL
@JJLGamingNL Жыл бұрын
With all the minor wars over the various concessions, this peace treaty managed to prolong the war if anything lol
@JustJ_KK
@JustJ_KK Жыл бұрын
Hey I love your content I have a scenario For you what if Johnathan Swift Declared Independence for Ireland And Ireland becomes the United States Version in Europe
@nacelnikprosiak1260
@nacelnikprosiak1260 Жыл бұрын
This peace treaty secured peace in europe for long enough so that everyone could reload their guns
@denverray7672
@denverray7672 Жыл бұрын
That was wild I hope the medieval game is as fun
@amlking
@amlking Жыл бұрын
Gonna be like EU IV and CK lll but on crack lmao
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 Жыл бұрын
@@amlking On more crack, let's be honest here
@ozanmrcan
@ozanmrcan 3 ай бұрын
germany and austria acting like they didnt just lose the war
@DontKnow-hr5my
@DontKnow-hr5my Жыл бұрын
Man i wish you could have gotten people from the actual nationalities doing this and not just one but like 5 for each Nation duking it out
@Randomboi863
@Randomboi863 Жыл бұрын
True it would have been way better as it would make more sense
@Ktosexe-uz8oq
@Ktosexe-uz8oq Жыл бұрын
I think that Turkey, Bulgaria and Poland got the worst deal out of this like bro, this is so fricking unrealisting, like he left a too strong Germany and he created two new major powers of Greece and Belarus
@kdawg2446
@kdawg2446 Жыл бұрын
This timline is cursed and i love it lol.
@legitmusicgaming4749
@legitmusicgaming4749 Жыл бұрын
As a Greek, this is beyond any ethnic fever dream ever dreamed 😂
@zigamz243
@zigamz243 Жыл бұрын
As a Slovenian nationalist i have nightmares every night knowing we didnt get carantania back in the peace conference
@philismenko
@philismenko Жыл бұрын
"There are no disputes here, we have solved the middle east"
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