My wife is overly clean and decides everything on her own. [Hello Counselor/ENG, THA/2019.01.28]

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Hello Counselor EP.397
- Guests : Shin Bongsun, Hwang Chiyeul, Shin Ayoung, Din Din
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[@csoniah4432]

I think some people here don't watch the full episode. Is pretty clear that the women has a psychological disorder and the husband already said THEY VISITED A PSYCHIATRIST AND COUNSELOR when the host ADVISED them to look for professional help. Some people don't understand that the purpose of this show is just to bring awareness and make people think about it and help them a bit is not a treatment or anything like that , please watch again.

[@Lorena-bc7ew]

finally someone smart! thank you!

[@aimansyahmi7124]

finally the one who are really understand the purpose of this show... thank you 🙏

[@scapesdream513]

but some episodes, people laugh and joke about their own problems and mental illness, is this necessary?

[@user-ss5je2pw3j]

@@scapesdream513 No, it is not. However, it is not a program designed to show them giving professional help. Since it is broadcasted nationally, it brings a lot of awareness and exposure. E.g. the episode with the blue-eyed child. The mother spoke about how her situation changed; and the episode itself gave strength and hope to other mothers with children with that disorder. Apparently, they do refer participants to professional help, though. But it is kept light-hearted so people watch, and thus offers more exposure. I'm sure people that come here know this already, that it's primarily about exposure and not to give professional advice. It's been running for so long that I'm sure participants who send in concerns are aware of this. And these are well known comedians. Comedians. I don't know a great deal about what goes on behind the scenes, but I remember a post on Korean forum where a participant shared her experience, and she shared that the show did refer her and her family to professional help at the conclusion of the show.

[@ntzkyh95-27]

@@user-ss5je2pw3j Finally someone said something that always in my mind whenever people complain about this show. Like you said, people who come here thay said their concerns was the one willingly did. Not the other around, like some entertainment company who cast people on the street to say their concern on the show. It's not like that.

[@maryam-yk7tl]

I really appreciate the dad for taking care of his kid and actually take the effort to take their kid to the psychiatrist and let her get treatments

[@martine440]

If the wife doesn't keep her word to change after the treatment, the husband, unfortunately, will have to divorce her and take the children for his own sanity, health and happiness and theirs as well. I mean... $200K?!?! And she's too prideful to apologize for something he has to pay back when he hand nothing to do with it in the first place?!?! Throughout the entire thing she kept this incredulous expression on her face like everyone else was the problem and she was perfectly fine. God bless that man for lasting this long. I, personally, could not and would not have stayed.

[@subakkk1760]

I think about ocd we cant judging her but 200k without apologize i lost my words

[@nope4528]

this is an awareness program, not a "we'll solve the problem for you" program. those that need serious care get it after appearing on this program of needed. why would they cancel the show 🙄 when its actually shedding light on so many things

[@user-ss5je2pw3j]

Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[@Amblin80s]

I'm glad that the husband has tried to do so much for his wife and their kids, getting them the help that they need, not dismissing therapy or visiting psychiatrists. Really a guy who just wants things to be resolved in a way that is sensitive to finding out the root of a problem vs just being forceful about it.

[@reidesuga]

Why those selfish people get married if they dont bother to discuss important things with their spouses? Just live alone then so that you can do anything you want.

[@huongvo128]

reiyuuri tsubasa so true!!!

[@spongejin4531]

So true

[@Jana_7]

This is also a prime example of the need to use condoms when dating. Only knew each other for 7 months and had to marry because of pregnancy. If he used a condom he could have dated her longer and got to see this side of her BEFORE deciding whether or not to marry her.

[@hasaneatif9386]

well it seems that she changed after birth not even after marriage so i think it is more of the idea that she needs to protect the baby from germs ....

[@Jana_7]

@@hasaneatif9386 She said on the show that she was like that since her 20's. I think it got worst after she gave birth.

[@wonhoscake1214]

I think you’re stretching it a bit much but ok

[@jadaalston8899]

Sorry but Korean culture and western culture are different. I’m half Korean and half black. Koreans have this weird habit of saying I love you on day three of dating. It’s not just about him marrying her for the baby. In the Korean culture people get married as little as three months. I was born in Korea but than moved to the us when I was three and went back and forth my whole life. One time I went on a date and this guy confessed his love for me after a week. I was confused and found out that’s normal. Also Koreans are known for not using condoms. But they also have one of the highest abortion rates.

[@tingle2323]

Well i, don't believe ppl get to know ppl that much... Everyone show their good side at first.. and also in the name of love ppl dont mind this...

[@sdldubu]

the husband is an amazing guy. i'm glad he's seeked help from doctors and psychiatrists since mental health is considered a stigma in korean society. his wife is lucky to have someone like him and i hope that her treatment goes well.

[@blackikkai]

I am watching this right now, during covid19 pandemic. Really curious about how she is doing.

[@missarofi6120]

The husband deserve way more better than his selfish wife

[@alekxx713]

kukukk kk what does ocd have to do about spending 200k dollars?

[@callaflorist4315]

Wife has OCD 😷😷😷😷😷😷

[@callaflorist4315]

남편이 너무 착하고 좋은 사람같은데 와이프가 이걸 이용해 남편 알기를 개똥밭 으로 생각하네 ,,, 미안한 것도 모르고 가족들만 괴롭 히는 ,,?? 남편 분 이혼 하시고 편히 사세요 사람 은 안 변 해요 !!!!!

[@christinejones1772]

I wonder out of 200 audience members 34 did not think it was a concern🤷🏻‍♀️. They must have a similar problem. This episode made me tear up as I felt so sorry for the husband and kids. 😥

[@cappucino356]

It's not just the OCD thing, but also the financial thing!!!! She has many issues that she's clearly not accepting. The first step is always acceptance, no matter if you go to a psychiatrist or not. SMH. The husband is way too nice. He's even now suffering from depression and panic disorder and she still doesn't get it! He's one of the few that actually reached out for professional help. She just has no will to change her ways.

[@kolokayla4899]

There are seriously not many men like the one in this video. He seems so caring and trying to get her some help from psychiatrists, I hope she is willing to change soon so that they won't divorce and be happy together.

[@chuupichuu]

I understand that she is afraid, but on top of constantly making her family go through that, she also invested in crap without telling her husband. I would get if its a couple hundred or even a few thousands but $200,000????? I'm surprised he hasn't left her and taken the kids already.

[@foreverANDalways1106]

I hate how they try and calm the panel down. Like no let them tell these people how unfair they are being. That wife is selfish. He needs to leave her and take his kids with him

[@bluedna2403]

When no one raises their hand Her mind: "how can y'all live like this" 😮😮 My mind: "no lady, how can YOU live like this" Like seriously ma'am, do you think everyone lives like this cuz I don't

[@lovemyselfloveyourself856]

"Clean with Passion for now"Real life version😄😄😄😄

[@tingle2323]

Easy to say divorce.. at least he has a guts to try.. Otherwise ppl only see one solution that is divorce.. Something happens then divorce. Divorce , divorce

[@chuupichuu]

Also, watch the show before commenting dumb crap. This show is about showing the issues not being the main source of help and resolving for the ppl that come on. Most that come on here have already tried professional help, like this lady , but haven't gotten to resolving the issue with the person who needs help. This show also shows ppl who can't see the problem with what they are constantly doing SEE that they're putting others in a hard position. Bc guess what? You need to see that you have a problem before being able to get professional help or it's not going to work.

[@user-ss5je2pw3j]

Can- can we boost this to first place? Like you, I'm sick of seeing people get riled up at the show itself without understanding it's purpose, or only spewing crap from a single episode.

[@anthoniaoffor3873]

No matter how clean you are, you aren't germ free. Yes, she has OCD but at the same time she needs to learn to communicate with her husband and understand him. You have caused your family to go into debt, understand that it is an issue and learn to be a supporting hand to your husband in paying it off. Don't be a couch and not move. The fact that she acted like it was no big issue is sad. You are lucky to have him. Like they say, you don't know what you have until its gone. Ps. who knows if there was any news from the previous sexual child abuse episode?

[@winniethepooh8353]

Most likely not

[@user-ss5je2pw3j]

The episode got taken down because people kept reporting it.

[@cee_el]

Wow I can totally relate. I can’t let my partner get on the bed without taking a shower. And after showering, he can’t touch anything that’s not wiped down with alcohol wipes. I know it’s a bit excessive but I never saw it as a big problem until I read these comments. Lol I need help but wow she’s on another level

[@HKim0072]

Wait, you have a problem with invisible germs, but you buy take-out food? Oh boy. Germs are good for the immune system. She needs to take some science classes.

[@Anailujrb]

I think it's the first time I heard people say they looked for professional help. The program should encourage this kind of thing.

[@somegirl6075]

They usually do at least once every episode or tell them what the professionals thought. They ask professionals for advice in some cases.

[@Kikurrrrr]

THIS REMIND ME OF THE DRAMA"CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW" NEVER THOUGH THIS TYPE OF PERSON EXIST....NO HATE, JUST... OUR WORLD SO UNIQUE

[@peko7446]

Divorce her. Aside from her being a germaphobe, the rest of her behavior is deplorable. Why put up with her? Take the kids and leave her to live with her pride.

[@tingle2323]

Well it is easy for some ppl as they dont have attachment so much.. But he wants to try hard.. If it doesn't work he will leave.. He doesn't want to live a bit effort not to use

[@fearnes.5272]

She’s sick, obviously she had some phobia which need treatment, for the sake of their children at least. On the loan and stocks thingy, she’s clearly at fault, she shouldn’t have done that. I thought my mom was bad for cleaning our bedrooms multiple times a day and she checks every corner for dust....this is another level.

[@jellyyuyu8260]

I think it’s kind of understandable since he did say it started after their eldest was born so I think she was being cautious with the first born which eventually turned into a bad habit

[@redqueen_97]

honestly all things aside cleaning too much has its own disadvantages people often tend to think ALL germs are harmful but in fact there are 2 types of germs good and bad, if you clean the way she does even the beneficial ones die and that could result in serious health problems esp regarding children. hope she gets better

[@qtpiejk]

shes gonna survive during this pandemic

[@iheartukevinwoojc]

She's lucky to have a very understanding husband. Din din is right, if it she had marry another guy not as good as his husband was I can only imagine what would've happened. She must have the will to change, I know she can, she just does'nt want to yet.

[@aenkamal5572]

we call it OCD..not just her...i also been there..have a same depression..all i can do is keep fighting but just think about hygene,it make me uncomfortable to just sit down and relax

[@mahalima8222]

This is similar to kdrama clean for passion for now... Love that drama..

[@dutchessdioji9368]

Din Din was calm. The regular hosts act like they're the only ones who can get upset at the guests.

[@JoJud-ov7eb]

What do you mean 🤔????

[@jacametalltda6733]

She really has problem, but I feel more for him, because the whole weight is above him.

[@socotrocoway]

Wow and this was recorded months before COVID19. The wife really was ahead of her time lol

[@bunnielines]

why are they so embarrassed in the beginning? i dont think of anything but they make me think it now 😂

[@elirsee_uwu6892]

this is a real concern. she can't help but be afraid of germs, and they've even visited a psychiatrist AND counselor. she is aware that this isn't good for her lifestyle and family, but it's a phobia she can't control. I know that it's a fear and she's now living in the mindset of 'it MUST be clean', but she should be understanding about her husband's point of view. since i don't know what it's like to have a big phobia, i won't say anything else but: people reading this, be aware that she can't control her phobia of germs, but she does understand the impact this has on her family.

[@tantandepzai]

Well it makes sense now due to the corona virus lol :')

[@huongvo128]

Is he an angel or what???

[@itxy4283]

“Your chance of pregnancy was 99.9% too.” 😂😂😂😂 On a more serious note I really hope the wife starts thinking more about others. She has really affected her whole family. Her husband has depression and panic disorder and her oldest daughter had to receive treatment too. I hope she really changes but if she doesn’t I hope the husband divorces her and takes the children. They will suffer a lot alone with their mother. I really respect the husband for being so strong and I hope he recovers.

[@darahatipritama4195]

and now his concern is something we must do to deal with this pandemic (covid19). who knows the habits of his wife are a must the following year: 2020.

[@marieparrott7944]

Suffering from OCD is not a nice condition to live with, my Son has OCD at 35yrs old ( had problems since he was about 5 yrs old) she needs professional help. As it certainly is not fair to out all this stress and her conditions onto her husband and children….

[@mld3526]

only read this kinda story on webtoon lol xD can't believe it's happening in real life

[@bkggera]

My mother was like that before but now she is not like this anymore. Now I can come home from outside and sit on sofa without changing the clothes and taking shower. I am so relieved.

[@snowbyul]

im curious what made her change. my mother is like this also. Also very controlling and both me and my father had to get therapy. I couldn't take it and moved out. She hasn't changed to this date and thinks everyone else is wrong and only she is right.

[@bkggera]

@@snowbyul after my sister's marriage when she came home for the first time. My sister asked my mother "you would change bedsheets and clean house after I leave". That changed my mother and she didn't change bedsheets and didn't clean the house. After that slowly she allowed us all to sit on the sofa after coming home without changing clothes.

[@alishalimbu2762]

Those divorce papers look so good right now

[@bodkimalone]

"raise your hand if you only use the bathroom at home" me: *almost puts up hand but remembers time I was too urgent not to go in public...I try my best not to...*

[@apriljoyaleligay936]

Save your children and your sanity Sir.

[@bluemonarch9346]

I really hate how she was able to maintain a straight face despite all the things she had done to her husband. If she wants to clean so bad she should work as a janitor or something. $200K is not a small amount of money. She should work for what she owes, her husband had nothing to do with her pride. If you're going to be prideful, don't let other people suffer because of it. My blood is boiling at this point.

[@sitinurumairah3207]

Reminds me of *Clean With Passion For Now* 😅

[@weird1phoenix690]

if she really had pride like she said, why she let her husband alone to pay the debt she made? this is not pride, it's called selfish

[@yn209]

i feel like this is me in the future 😂😂

[@rumahsierraperdana2090]

The wife is just super selfish!!!

[@taeggukvlog]

The wife knew Covid was on the way😂

[@bellekim6202]

Who’s here before 500views?

[@mexicanjesus8482]

She has germophobia, not OCD. If she doesn't have a pattern about how she cleans, it's not OCD.

[@namikizuna4530]

Idk if you are a psychologist, psychiatrist, or psych student so if you are I defer to that knowledge! but if not I can tell you as someone with OCD that OCD is not *just* about specific obvious patterns so she may very well have OCD. It CAN be like that - wiping everything down 5 times diagonally or she has to start again - but it's not always like that. It could also, as you say, be germophobia- a severe case of either one of them either way. That could be treated if she was willing to get treated. Because her husband is right, she needs to have the will to change if. All the doctors in the world can't help her unless she chooses to trust at least one person. I'm mainly curious as to where this all came from, if there was something at home that happened to make her fear so much and need so much control. Pregnancy and childbirth clearly exacerbated it but if she was like this before....it's curious.

[@sunnysunshine9210]

Ocd contamination isn't always rituals when cleaning as in other types of ocd there isn't always rituals in doing things and there are alot of types of ocd. I don't always have a certain pattern when I clean certain things or rooms but I do clean until I feel like it's clean and my anxiety goes down.

[@allyntan3038]

This is so wrong im so heartbroken. What she is doing is so unsustainable because wet wipes cant be recycled. This is a real concern

[@claudi1636]

i wonder how both of the husband and wife doing rn. i mean with covid and the pandemic :)

[@andiuptown1711]

Can u imagine omg 🥴

[@andiooop5674]

Just divorce your ungrateful wife already!

[@aline21o85]

I wonder how they are handling the situation with coved19 now😂

[@Jana_7]

Coming on this show is not going to solve her problems since it seems like OCD and that's not something that talking about it with non medical people/ staff will help.

[@hasaneatif9386]

she went to specialists but they all told them that she doesn't have the will to change and if she doesn't have it,it would be hard to help that's why he came on the show so that she finds that will to change and then keep up with the treatment

[@reallyadawn4869]

She needs will for her to be able to change. I would think that knowing her family is suffering would hopefully help her find that.

[@juliusceaser1861]

They usually send them to get help afterwards anyways this is just for awareness

[@Jana_7]

@@juliusceaser1861 I'm happy to hear that. Because some cases really need professional help. Makes me happy to know they provide that after the show.

[@upekshad5765]

All of us live like her now. cleaning everything we touch 😣

[@clairepilatin7373]

In the beginning they are so dirty minded but it took me a couple of seconds to figure it out😝

[@sakura20ify]

This is insane, she definitely has OCD, I hope she can realize she's hurting her family and works hard in her treatment otherwise the husband will have to divorce and take the children with him

[@nadiyaz8431]

Some people are obsess of cleaning because it is a way for them to reduce stress. Just saying...

[@ikadamia6865]

She should be with the patriachal husband. This guy is too nice for her

[@Scxrlettmoon99]

Now it's really related due to Covid 19 😂 damn

[@HoneySoifon]

Im half way through the video but at this point its not only a problem its an obsession and a disease O_o She needs to be treated

[@yarib6479]

I dislike when the hosts tell the guests to calm down when they are bringing up a good point and are being honest. Unless I’m missing the context, Din Din wasn’t being rude and maybe if the hosts took this a little more seriously instead of cracking jokes every 2 minutes, the show would be better.

[@nicholastan3243]

The worst concern i ever seen in this show.

[@bluedna2403]

trust me I seen worst

[@vlogswithjojo876]

The one about the dad touching he's son is the worst I've see

[@bluedna2403]

kayla jae yea that guy was one pervert

[@winniethepooh8353]

@@bluedna2403 no, that's pedophilia

[@reallyadawn4869]

This is my first time in a while that I've gotten angry at HC 😤 That poor husband has to deal with a selfish woman like that. I feel so bad for him and their children, that it would honestly be better for them to divorce, because it's evident that the lady really doesn't believe this is a concern...

[@JoJud-ov7eb]

What do you mean HC

[@ycbumblebee3533]

Sent her to kim jungkook for using tissue

[@oliveoil5435]

Have yall noticed the format of the show is weird? Like if the person gets the most number of votes at the end for being a concern, then they take the prize money home. Doesn't that mean the person would try and act as terrible as they can so that they can win money?

[@Aj-zj4ji]

Well that is not fair!!😡😡 Isn't that too much!!

[@joanolgakeine6971]

This woman is a crazy

[@ItsBrittanyLajoyce]

Guess everyone forgot about the abuse episode....

[@ATA-yl6lk]

EXACTLY I said the same thing I was like...oh so the show not cancelled RN?

[@HNB02]

youyou It isn’t just that one thing though. That one girl in the past definitely had a eating disorder as well. These are real life issues that are being treated as though an hour episode with some celebrities will fix their problems. It’s not how that works. They need medical help! Laughing about a father kissing his sons penis is disgusting as well. That’s sexual assault no matter what country somebody is in!

[@winniethepooh8353]

You should watch DKDKTV, they talked about it

[@HNB02]

youyou I just think laughing at it is inappropriate.

[@user-ss5je2pw3j]

@@HNB02 They are comedians. This is their job. Lightheartedness=viewership. Believe me when I say that participants are aware that they are not going to receive professional help here, and submit concerns for the awareness and exposure. It's only on KZbin internationally but it's on NATIONAL TV in Korea. It's a platform to bring awareness to issues．If it was serious, nobody would watch it. They apparently refer serious cases to professional help, from a post I read on a Korean platform, but the main aim of the show is not to offer professional help.

[@DestinationCupcakeX]

why does the husband remind me of a mid-age version of cnblue's minhyuk? xd even his voice, i swear!

[@yen5409]

I am so angry for the husband, he deserve someone better.

[@iknowfacebutidontknowname3428]

Has the like/dislike always been disabled? 🤔

[@Tophuu_]

I thought the channel is canceled or the episode is deleted???

[@domesticbanana6766]

the episode is deleted

[@Fruitystyleangel]

i would have been divorced from her ass if i were him. goddamn how do people have the guts to just stay in a broken relationship??

[@katien1174]

Why does the mom remind me of an Asian Jennifer Coolidge (Paulette from legally blonde)

[@apollojakenwill]

Katie N it’s her eyes. The shape and narrow nose are similar

[@siafasi]

23:00 *WHAT IS THIS SONG/INSTRUMENTAL OMG*

[@wonhoscake1214]

She really shouldn’t have invested in bitcoin. The stocks been going down for a few months now

[@tadikata]

bongsun 😂

[@buggld]

Somewhat unrelated from the original concern, but I bet they're doing well if they kept those Bitcoins LOL.

[@irfahafifa8190]

My conclusion for all this , she doesn't respect her husband at all, poor the husband

[@jenicamadilis5459]

Scary.. 😯

[@easyrecipe8874]

남편이 보살이시네. 힘들다 아픈 사람과 살면 ...아이들 생각해서라도 아내분 꼭 병이 호전되셨길.

[@catherinechawe6530]

This woman is the most selfish person I have ever seen or heard in my entire life...she is sooo unlogical. She is really lucky to have such a good and understanding person as her husband that man is simply an anjel.....it’s rarely to see someone who can tolerate that bullshit to that extent, Tanzanians men can’t even tolerate your period mood swings lol 😂

[@mellodino6140]

Dindin is me

[@csoniah4432]

She is not a good wife. If it were me I would get a divorce.

[@Lebpride85]

I feel sorry for the wife, she needs help

[@MsSHINeeTVXQSuju]

...WHO IN GOD'S NAME WIPES PAPER??? LIKE??

[@dzejlav1324]

Wait..why they disabled likes and dislikes 😂

[@atinjho5814]

Germs are everywhere, Even you are a 100% clean. But this wife is very toxic.

[@ashleyajayi3510]

She clearly has mysophobia

[@moonchildknj4860]

can she just live alone?

[@mhrosehb]

그건 깔끔한게 아녜요. 강박증이지.병이니까 치료받으세요

[@shidarosli6296]

The most ridiculous concern i had ever heard 😥

[@gwajadanji]

내가 아무리 물티슈 한 장도 안 쓰고 살면 뭐해. 극성스럽고 게으른 아기 엄마들이나 저런 결벽증들이 환경 오염 다 시키는데.....앞으로 물티슈에 환경파괴금 부과해서 더 비싸게 판매해야 된다고 봅니다. 저런 사람들은 차라리 세상에 없는게 지구에 도움이 되겠다 진짜....

[@MsSHINeeTVXQSuju]

also, i'm shocked...hand wash? one would think she'd use something more hard core, like bleach, lmao

[@miritomoe7523]

I'm surprised she hasn't burned down the house yet. To get rid of the 0.01% germs.