My Wife Watches *THE WALKING DEAD* For The First Time | 2x7 Reaction | Pretty Much Dead Already

[@PhilipManzano]

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[@Tossedtie]

I think Dale knew what Shane was gonna do and that is why he tried to hide the guns

[@PhilipManzano]

Yeah, that made sense. I think our outrage in that moment was that he was taking away the entire camp's ability to defend itself, and made that decision on his own.

[@dravenquinn264]

This episode was extremely heartbreaking for so many people it was a lot of people’s first moments realizing that The Walking Dead does not mess around.

[@natecloe8535]

Im heartbroken at how these two irrationally hate Dale.

[@abubakarahmed3891]

I dont think they hate him, its more like he is kinda annoying for them, I felt the same for me but they for sure understand that Dale is uncle of the group

[@dravenquinn264]

Heartbreaking episode But notice how Rick was the one to step up in the end and show he’s the real leader.

[@Hahvok]

"Why is Dale doing this? Just Dale being Dale" Followed immediately by Shane showing why Dale was doing it lol

[@PhilipManzano]

Dale being Dale as in.. unilaterally making a decision based on what he thinks is best, taking a holier than thou approach, and putting others in danger by taking away their choice. In this case.. taking away their guns without saying anything.

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

​@@PhilipManzanoI've watched a TON of TWD reactors and you two are the very first people that didn't like Dale. He's such a beloved character. It's not like the group was in immediate danger, Dale always has the guns...he just moved them to keep them away from Shane. Hershel doesn't even allow them to have guns on his property anyway.

[@dravenquinn264]

This is when Rick becomes the official leader Shane couldn’t step up when he saw Sophia and Rick did.

[@dravenquinn264]

Definitely still one of the most groundbreaking twists in TWD history.

[@natecloe8535]

Now if only we could twist these two around on their stupid hate for Dale.

[@erikamanzano338]

@@natecloe8535😂

[@lindapowers8592]

Dale took those guns because he knew Shane’s next move. He was trying to stop Shane from losing it and causing mass trauma to everyone. Shane’s methods are always wrong and over the top! He lost it when Rick returned and went psycho in the process of killing Otis and beyond!

[@Iisa_potato_girl]

well explained 👏🏻

[@Finn-fm2tw]

Shane was right

[@lindapowers8592]

@@Finn-fm2tw of course he was right 😏 He was right: When he immediately got with Lori When he was jealous when Rick found them and aimed a gun at him in the woods When he tried to force himself on Lori at the CDC When he killed Otis When he gave Carl a gun When he took all the guns from Dale When he went against Hershel’s rules on his farm breaking in the barn to kill all the family and friend walkers even knowing they all could get kicked of the farm When he stole the kid, killed him and faked an attack on himself When he lured Rick through the woods after murdering the kid to kill Rick When he told Rick he was better and stronger in every way before attempting to kill Rick NOT

[@omokoyejoakinfenwa4453]

Shane was right in regards to the whole barn situation sure how he acted was quite overdramatic but he was right. Rick and Dale were the ones that were making a terrible descision that would have gotten everybody killed.

[@mageeaaron2624]

16:50 Despite Shane's outburst, I'm glad Hershel realized how dangerous the walkers are

[@natecloe8535]

I will be glad when these two stop irrationally hating Dale.

[@Ayooo0o]

@@natecloe8535 "you're pretty much dead already" is true, dale isn't build for this world. On the other hand we have shane doing the right decisions aka protecting the group by killing the walker and also being firm because the world is now more dangerous than ever.. I'm glad Phil and Erika have also aknowleged that shane isn't wrong in what he's doing but rather wrong in HOW he is doing it.

[@malacaimarbas2048]

The Sophia killing being foreshadowed by the kill of the Walker girl in the gas station at the beginning of the series is soooooo good and gut wrenching

[@bassorellichiara3983]

About your questions on why they don´t just leave, i get it, but think about it, this is the first place they´ve felt they were safe, the farm is away from the cities and it is not just a camp (like the one they were in which was attacked). After the camp attack, they were on the road which is the most dangerous place, so it is obvious that once they found a safe place like the farm, leaving is not such an easy option, specially taking into account that Hershel is a doctor, and Lori is pregnant, they need him. But yes, totally true they should respect Hershel´s way of doing things

[@kennycooper294]

Sophia was the first big gut punches like Sarah in the last of us. when rick was talking to Herschel about staying it felt like john belushi talking to carrie fisher in the blues brothers lol

[@doorattachment6926]

This is the point Carol grew to be the bad ass she becomes in the rest of the show. She's my favorite and strongest and saves a lot of people. She's the Queen in TWD

[@panashe5268]

It goes deeper than just “they own the farm” clearly Hershel doesn’t understand the state of the world. Hershel and his family haven’t endured or witnessed what Rick and the group have. Maggie couldn’t even fight for herself against one walker. They’re so naive to the apocalypse and are wasting resources feeding zombies.

[@PhilipManzano]

I've heard this argument a few times, and I guess I understand where you're coming from.. But at the same time, its not Rick's group's obligation or responsibility to educate them about that. Unless this is a hostile takeover of the Greene's property, then the group always have the option of leaving if they don't like what's being done. It's the entitlement to the farm/property/resources/meds that I never understood. One of the rare times I agreed with Shane when he suggested that they just leave haha.

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

Completely and totally agree 150%. It's not like this is the real world, these aren't normal circumstances. Anyone in Rick's and the group's situation would not only want to stay, but expect to stay. If Hershel had a clue about anything, he'd want them to stay too.

[@stephwest1382]

I feel for Carol and Rick. Shane was wrong. They didn't even know the walkers were in the barn. Great reaction and ready for more

[@dravenquinn264]

I love this episode the ending is so important because it’s the struggle of leadership between Rick and Shane as Shane says Rick isn’t build for this world but then by the end of the episode Rick takes full leadership of the group by killing Sophia and doing what no one else in the group could do not even Shane Awesome reactions Phil and Erika can’t wait for the next one.

[@dravenquinn264]

Jon Bernthal (Shane) stole the show in this episode Incredible acting.

[@PhilipManzano]

As much as his character irks me.. He's so good. haha.Adds such a great dynamic to the story.

[@KermitDaGrung]

28:50 lmao Fr tho, Shane remembers 😂 you guys have great post episode discussions, love the moral debates 🔥

[@melissagilby3959]

One of my favourite episodes of the whole series! Amazing acting and I actually love the “enough” scene with Shane 😅 RIP Sophia 😢

[@eys1996]

Once Shane held the gun up to Rick in the forest he lost me from there on out.

[@spacebetween42]

04:05 "are you shipping them?" yes sir, since 6th Nov 2011 :D But I love Erika's confusion at the question.

[@onetallpheeesh]

Sophia was Rick Grimes's First Major Mistake. His first Failure. He failed Sophia. No one else. He was the last person she was alive with. He knew that. He had everyone risking their lives for HIS MISTAKE. Rick HAD to step up. And it's insane because Sophia is one of the survivors of the whole comic series. She is THAT big. Keeping Shane alive was the first big change to the comics, killing Sophia was the second.

[@PhilipManzano]

Whoaaaa. I did not know that! That must have been so wild watching it the first time.

[@onetallpheeesh]

@@PhilipManzano it doesn't matter much now 😅 lol I love this show so much. I highly recommend reading the comics at some point too. There's rumors of there being a Comic Accurate Animated Series soon after the success of Invincible. Robert Kirkman wants it anyways.

[@panashe5268]

I don’t agree with this at all. Rick failed Sophia? By saving her and telling her to run back to the group when the coast was clear? Weird way of looking at it.

[@onetallpheeesh]

@@panashe5268 He failed Sophia. He could have taken them out right in front of her while she was hiding. He abandoned her. I hate that they deleted the scene where Sophia's last words "no don't leave me" were haunting Rick the day they found her in the barn. Rick was the last adult that saw her alive. She was his responsibility in that moment.

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

​@@onetallpheeeshtotally disagree. He hid her and told her to stay put, and she didn't. He gave her clear instructions. I've never seen anyone blame Rick for Sophia 🙄

[@dravenquinn264]

And this is where everyone started to see Rick as the leader Shane broke the doors but wouldn’t raise his gun to Sophia Rick did He took that responsibility so no one else would have to have that guilt In my opinion anyway Shane was a necessary evil yes but he made a situation and then couldn’t follow through on it Rick cleaned up the mess caused by Shane’s actions.

[@RayEvans-j1q]

The sad episodes have always been my favourite!

[@nh9894]

Ok, so i just have to say, you both keep saying the group need to listen to Hershel or leave the farm. Hershel from the start straight up said he didn't want the group to have/use gun's on his land. Dale knew what Shane was going to do which is why he hid the gun's and because he knew that Hershel would want them to leave if they used gun's. Dale actually did what you both said the group should do by listening to what Hershel said. Also when Dale was talking to Hershel about the walkers in the barn, Hershel asked Dale if he was sure he could trust everyone in their group and obviously Dale doesn't trust shane, which is why he hid the guns.

[@PhilipManzano]

Yeah, that’s fair. The issue we have with Dale in this situation is that he did this without consulting anyone. He thought he knew what was best and did it without a word. A theme we noticed with him and dislike. A very real scenario here is that a herd comes through and no one knows where those guns are because they didn’t consent to that decision. Or it happens and then they have to run to some random spot in the forest to play hide and seek with walkers while looking for weapons. If they all talked about it and agreed, then sure. But he’s far from being the leader of the group and that was a huuuge (and potentially dangerous) move to make.

[@nh9894]

@@PhilipManzano ok, he did make a decision without consulting the group which I do agree was wrong but he's human and made a mistake. He was only thinking of the fact that Shane couldn't be trusted with the guns at that point. I do believe he would have told Rick where he hid the guns but obviously Shane tracked him down before he could hide them. I think Dale was just hiding them until the problem with the walkers in the barn was discussed properly with Hershel. Also tbh, if anything was gonna cause a walker herd to come through the farm, it would be all that gun fire as we know sound attracts them. Anyway we can agree to disagree about some things but I still love your reactions and will keep watching for sure. I also love Dale and even though he makes mistakes and is a little nosey, it definitely all comes from a good place, he's the kindest person imo. ❤️👍🏻

[@PhilipManzano]

All good! No harm. I agree with your points haha. Really appreciate you watching with us! 🙏

[@Raikas]

20:37 this is the first episode all over again

[@PhilipManzano]

Ouuu. Good point.

[@dravenquinn264]

This was the episode in TWD that viewers realized that this was not a horror show about killing zombies This was a drama show about human struggles even in the Apocalypse.

[@PhilipManzano]

So good. Exactly what I love about the show.

[@mageeaaron2624]

I've been looking forward to this episode! 🙏🏽💪

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

They're not leaving after this. This whole ordeal woke Hershel up. He wants Shane gone, but that's it.

[@OwenC08]

What bugs me is why the group never talked about the CDC, it would’ve made things so much more clear

[@natecloe8535]

What bugs me is how much these two irrationally hate Dale.

[@PhilipManzano]

haha you're really going on a Dale PR tour in these comments. Maaan, I respect the consistency.

[@studentofthesaviors.o.s]

I’m such a walking dead fan I’m going to be watching ANOTHER react channel react to it lmao 😂. Good thing Yall got a playlist

[@PhilipManzano]

haha appreciate you! It's gonna be a fun ride!

[@Myaccount923]

6:57 think about it again! Lmaooo Rick gave him no choice

[@PhilipManzano]

haha right?

[@BryanMcdonough-gl9hm]

Rip Sophia from season 1 episode 3 to season 2 episode 7 gone way too soon

[@onetallpheeesh]

The first MAJOR death if you read the comics fr fr

[@Kolbeck64]

@@onetallpheeesh she doesn't die in the comics

[@onetallpheeesh]

@@Kolbeck64 re read what I said lol. It was the first MAJOR DEATH for people if they read the comics.

[@LoriFernandez-v5x]

Watch Baby Reindeer!!! lol

[@mageeaaron2624]

19:27 😔🙏🏽

[@vegetasama3098]

Hello again👋it's been a while since we talked about the future of the walking dead on your channel, i hope your wife is enjoying the walking dead so far. i know its still kinda early, the channel barely dipped it toes in the water as the saying goes with the walking dead universe.But i have to ask how serious are y'all taking the walking dead? im asking because i have been around on KZbin for a nearly a decade I've seen lots of walking dead reactors come and go without finishing the walking dead show, if you're in it from start to finish i have another option on the table, this option is big enough to cover the whole table like Thanksgiving dinner. i was hesitant on bringing this idea forward because i don't want you to feel overwhelmed, i don't know your schedule or how much free time ya'll have but i ultimately decided it can be early to do something now but it's never to early to think about it or to take it into consideration. I want to know if you're all in for the walking dead, are ya'll going to react to the spinoff show "Fear the walking dead"? It's an intergal part of the overall story that sets into the same universe as the walking dead, i highly recommend ya'll start reacting to fear the walking dead when y'all begin the 5th season of the walking dead. The reason im bringing this to you now because there will be a crossover episode between fear the walking dead and the walking dead in the timeline after season 8 and right before season 9 of the walking dead show there is a little prequel section because season 9 of the walking dead will go through a time jump, certain characters will dissappear from the main show to crossover into fear the walking dead so you are going to be confused about the whereabouts of specific characters if you're only sticking to the main show. Seaon 4 episode 1 of fear of the walking dead is the crossover episode, so you should postpone season 4 of fear the walking dead until you finish the 8th season of the main show. if y'all decided at any point to discontinue fear the walking dead after the 4th of its season, then that's totally fine. There are other spinoffs but that is a discussion at a later date. i think bringing this option is enough option for today, i hope you and your wife have a wonderful day.

[@mageeaaron2624]

8:44 Amen! 🙏🏽💪

[@sabrinawalker1421]

Yeeeeesssssss fuckit I’m watching this at work lol

[@PhilipManzano]

haha your boss will understand. This episode is a big one.

[@patmcconnell9956]

I don’t know how you guys think it’s so easy for the survivors to just leave the farm. Cause where are they supposed to go? Just because Shane had a theory that Fort Benning is safe doesn’t mean they would risk that and leave the only safe haven they’ve been able to find. So of course they’d be critical of Hershel’s delusional and dangerous ways and try to change them instead of leaving and being forced back onto the road again IMO.

[@PhilipManzano]

Nothing about it is easy -- But it's not theirs. Just because it's hard -- and extremely dangerous-- doesn't give them a right to tell someone else how to use their resources or what rules should or should not be followed, at least not if they want to play nice about it. They can be critical all they want of the Greene's beliefs. It still doesn't give them claim to something that is literally not theirs. To act as entitled as they have is weird; even in this world. Either play by the rules of the house, leave, or turn heel and take it from them. But to think it's okay to guilt a family into doing things the way you want them done, especially after they have been so generous already. That's delusional too.

[@patmcconnell9956]

@@PhilipManzano I get that but we all know how wrong Hershel was about the walkers and how unsafe he was making his farm and family. If Rick’s group left then Hershel’s family would have no doubt been screwed cause they’d keep trying to spare/lock up walkers since they have not seen the world for what it became. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect that everyone from Rick’s group would prioritize manners and courtesy to Hershel “owning” the farm over their own safety. The fact that the farm isn’t “theirs” is irrelevant. It’s the apocalypse now and their lives are on the line. And considering the fact that other groups would have just killed Hershel’s family to take over the farm for themselves, Rick’s been entirely reasonable, at least IMO. I get what you mean and obviously the show is trying to portray both sides of the Rick/Hershel debate in a manner that viewers can empathize with both. It just seems like you only side with Hershel’s perspective and both groan and roll your eyes whenever anyone from Rick’s group expresses the completely reasonable desire to protect the farm better than Hershel has. But to each their own and we’re all obviously entitled to our opinions. I love your reactions and hope this doesn’t come off as me being a provoking dick.

[@PhilipManzano]

No no -- not at all! I love the discussion haha. It's fun to dive into these dilemmas. I think it's part of what makes TWD so great. But you're right, we can agree to disagree on this one. No harm done!

[@nh9894]

I ❤ Dale, that's all i have to say 😁👍🏼

[@PhilipManzano]

Haha you have friends in this comment section for sure 😅

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

Most people do. He's a fan favorite among the fandom, that's for sure.

[@captainsid2096]

This ep 😢

[@mageeaaron2624]

9:05 💪

[@zachbrown210]

So you guys think another farm would have chickens cows horses etcetera plus a power generator gas Wells around the property. You have to adapt to this world that you're watching. Also Herschel is completely delusional about the walkers so if you can just change his mind a tad then you can all live together and help each other

[@PhilipManzano]

Yeah, I can understand that perspective -- but it kinda underlines why I feel the way that I do. They are taking/using A LOT of resource that do not belong to them. Purely from the generosity of this family. They are taking advantage of them because of that "delusion". You're right, there might not be another place with all these resources -- so play ball and follow the rules of the house. Or leave and take your chances..Or just be straight up about it and forcefully take it over. I feel like those options all make more sense than believing you're entitled to this space/can make decisions about how it's run just because you don't have any other options.

[@MaarkAlvarez]

Blud is not ready for 7x1😢

[@mageeaaron2624]

5:28 Yikes! 😂

[@Marvel_vs_Capcom84]

It's a weird thing to say that you guys are several episodes ahead or even 1 season ahead of this video makes it seem like more then likely the both of you watched this entire series before and are only doing a rewatch

[@PhilipManzano]

Interesting. Never actually heard that take. I think it’s actually quite a common thing amongst KZbin reactors. But maybe it’s just the ones I watch. Regardless, genuine first time watch for my wife. And a rewatch from me (after only seeing it once during its live run years back).

[@Marvel_vs_Capcom84]

@@PhilipManzano I mean think about it for a second, If you are watching any kind of TV series and you upload a video of a season 1 episode whatever and claim in that video that you are further ahead on another account, Call me dumb but doesn't that make it seem like you have watched the show before and are only doing a rewatch?

[@PhilipManzano]

It’s pretty simple. We watch and edit a video, post it to Patreon and then that same video comes to KZbin a month or so later. And because we have calendars, we know exactly how far ahead we’ll be whenever we watch a particular episode (so yeah, we say it every video haha). That’s literally it 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don’t know what else to tell you haha.

[@Marvel_vs_Capcom84]

@@PhilipManzano oh okay 👍

[@mageeaaron2624]

12:44 👀

[@kahluta]

if u dont remeber what happens why not jus put we instead of wife

[@PhilipManzano]

Just for accuracy, really. I've watched it all the way through to at least season 7 or 8. But it was a whiiile back. If we say that it's a first time watch, then we'd just keep getting called out about how it isn't a first time watch for me. The KZbin comment section is a funny place haha. You can never win.

[@elenadehaan6549]

I will NEVER understand the Dale hate.

[@PhilipManzano]

Haha that’s fine.

[@elenadehaan6549]

@@PhilipManzano i think its refreshing having someone in the group who thinks differently than the others, he brings a perspective that no one else does, some sort of voice of reason. Doesn’t have to mean hes always right, but it does bring some other perspectives to think about.

[@PhilipManzano]

@@elenadehaan6549 Yeah, that's fair. I don't have an issue with Dale's heart. He's kind and moral, and offers a different opinion. And if that's all he did, I think he would be one of my favorite characters. My issue with him in this world is his decision-making, and his willingness to take other people's choice away by acting selfishly -- or doing things that he thinks is right without consulting others. The Andrea scenario was self-explanatory, and he had no right to force her hand like that. This hiding of the guns (without telling a soul) puts everyone in danger, and also takes away people's own right to protect themselves. He can have an ideal way of thinking people should act, but he can't force that on people. And I think people tend to give him a pass because he's nice. But those are serious character flaws and can really harm a group. A group that he is not the leader of. But agree to disagree. One thing that I can say is that the character is brilliantly acted. His performances are great and always carry a ton of weight. Love that.

[@elenadehaan6549]

@@PhilipManzano Well said 👍

[@Myaccount923]

31:20 😂 in this economy??

[@Lord_Levana]

Moreee

[@PhilipManzano]

We are still ramping up, but nearly there. Will be doing double-episodes every other week until season 2 is done. Starting season 3, doubles every week!

[@jamescantwell9988]

Those that agree with Hershal. Cant say you're pro life... lol MY PROPERTY!! of walkers... or give a Prego women a chance to survive. What a drug...

[@PhilipManzano]

Haha I still don’t get why this opinion has triggered so many people. I feel like it’s pretty simple. Either stay and respect the rules of the man who has literally sacrificed resources (medical supplies, shelter, food, water, extra clothes, etc), comfort, time and effort for these complete strangers.. or leave if they don’t like it/don’t feel safe around the barn. Even the option of just forcefully taking the farm from Herschel is better than what they are doing - at least then they’re being honest about their intentions. We agree that it’s better for the group to stay on the farm. But they happened upon this place. It doesn’t mean they’re entitled to it.

[@jamescantwell9988]

@@PhilipManzano I think because of a real life situation you both weren't wrong in feeing that way. Also in reality it's a scary to take humans in you don't know as much as hiding your zombie family you think is just sick. Part of it was religion confusion. They were closed off to the real world. Now that the real world was gone. They didn't see it for what it was or is. I think this episode showed that well at the end. Especially the girl at the end who they'd been searching for.

[@PhilipManzano]

All good! I can see everyone's point too. Different world, different social context. Just really couldn't shake it in the moment haha.

[@natecloe8535]

Your Dale hate is so ugly. He is the kindest, wisest person thus far. Until Herschel quits being the person you act like Dale is....but isnt.

[@PhilipManzano]

Aw, it's really not that deep. We just think he's made some really selfish choices in the past, and unfortunately, he gets the butt of those jokes. You're right, he is probably the kindest. This is probably why it feels like he's an outsider in this group/world -- and by extension, to us who are immersed in it. At the end of the day, we're just having some fun. If you've been watching with us all the way to 2x7, hopefully you can see through that and notice that it's just our style. We love the show and the character progression. Dale is just.. Dale.

[@liljackypaper]

I can't stand Dale. Way too over bearing. Thinks he's everyone's father.

[@PhilipManzano]

Oh, don’t let them catch you saying that about Dale in these comments. 😂😂

[@liljackypaper]

@@PhilipManzano he was right though, he's not built for this world 👍