Here are 10 MORE sales flops for luxury and sports cars (1980-2005)

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@bombfog1
@bombfog1 Жыл бұрын
The Holden G8 was a real shame. It was an incredible car and the only non-Japanese vehicle I’ve ever owned.
@dmandman9
@dmandman9 Жыл бұрын
The GTO was likely a great car under the hood. But it looked like a Grand Am. I think that may have contributed to its lack of success.
@jamesmancuso3666
@jamesmancuso3666 Жыл бұрын
@@dmandman9 it was a very good handling car. Even the early 5.7 had decent power and would carve corners almost like the Vette. The 6.0 version was even better plus the rear seat was actually usable for real people.
@lucaspeden3727
@lucaspeden3727 Жыл бұрын
Owned or leased
@derpyllama1857
@derpyllama1857 Жыл бұрын
@@lucaspeden3727 It's almost like they specifically said owned 🤔
@Samacalia
@Samacalia Жыл бұрын
As an aussie i feel pain That it didn’t succeed as well
@headshotmaster138
@headshotmaster138 Жыл бұрын
I never understood the hate of the GTO and G8. They were such good and underrated cars.
@thanakonpraepanich4284
@thanakonpraepanich4284 Жыл бұрын
The botched US LHD conversion was partly to blame. Left hand side foot well was a lot smaller than the right side of the car, compromising comfort and pedal positions. And the requirement to raise the position of the gas tank above the bumper to meet California crash standard mean the size of the fuel tank had to be cut by half.
@headshotmaster138
@headshotmaster138 Жыл бұрын
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 That's a damn shame because they had a lot of potential.
@autochatter
@autochatter Жыл бұрын
They were cool cars and the Chevy SS was too. The GTO's styling didnt help it as they looked too much like 90s 2 door Cavaliers to me. The G8 and Chevy SS wasnt advertised well.
@mybigfatpolishlife
@mybigfatpolishlife Жыл бұрын
The G8 wasn't on sale long enough
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger Жыл бұрын
@@autochatter I remember knowing about the SS at the time, and saw exactly one advertisement run for it during a Fox broadcast of NASCAR. i.e. it aired a few times during that broadcast, and I never saw it again. I then later saw just ONE SS at a Chevrolet dealer parked off to the side, for about $49k while a completely optioned out Malibu was $37k, and they had every color combination and trim level. The average buyer would have wondered why this SS car was so much more expensive when it didn't look much different than a Malibu. It didn't have heated or ventilated seats, Android auto or adaptive cruse control, auto high beam, rear skylight, wireless phone charger and many other options. They had to know what the SS truly was to want to pay the extra $12k.
@chada75
@chada75 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that GM did ZERO advertising for the SS. Only known as a NASCAR body Style.
@Jeremy-c3x
@Jeremy-c3x Жыл бұрын
they could’ve had the platform of the camaro and the ss similar to the challenger and charger today, would’ve been amazing
@culcune
@culcune Жыл бұрын
The GTO actually started to pick up in sales in '06 when they dropped the car. They were actually drawing BMW buyers according to an article I read about the surprising bit of uptick in sales.
@mikemc330
@mikemc330 Жыл бұрын
The 2006 GTO was awesome. Get it with a manual transmission and you had a real sleeper. I wish I had bought one.
@padroooo
@padroooo Жыл бұрын
I never knew what CTS stood for. Thanks Pat.
@robertwoodpa6463
@robertwoodpa6463 Жыл бұрын
Me either
@emmcee476
@emmcee476 6 ай бұрын
Me either
@brettt8246
@brettt8246 Жыл бұрын
The Holden Monaro/Pontiac GTO was successful. General Motors Holden only got panel presses made that could only cope with 40,000 stampings before they were worn out. All were sold out before the end of the donor vehicle's lifespan (VT-VZ Commodore). A successor was designed and a concept was shown at the Australian Motor Show (Holden Coupe 60) based on the next generation V car (VE Commodore, Chevrolet SS) but the GFC, the termination of Pontiac and GM's bankruptcy killed it. But it did spawn the new generation Camaro!
@muppetb.lansing8374
@muppetb.lansing8374 Жыл бұрын
The Holden Commodores were great, sturdy, we;ll-engineered cars.
@brettt8246
@brettt8246 Жыл бұрын
@@muppetb.lansing8374 Yes, I agree. The VE chassis was also designed to have many variations like a Crewcab, a Cabchassis, Coupe 60 sharing the doors and front with a proper Sports Ute, and a decent SUV called The Nullabor
@DTD110865
@DTD110865 8 ай бұрын
FYI, GM was planning a retro-GTO concept to replace the rebadged Holden before the entire Pontiac Motor Division was scrapped during the Great Recession of the late-2000's.
@RustyShackleford42095
@RustyShackleford42095 Жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious how many of these were Bob Lutz’ creations, yet he’s so revered in the industry.
@grunkohlaktionar7474
@grunkohlaktionar7474 Жыл бұрын
Please do an episode on the Mitsubishi Diamante
@of_lion22
@of_lion22 Жыл бұрын
The SVX and the Reatta still look good. That side profile of the Black Reatta marketing looks so promising. It's always a shame it never came with a turbo v6 or manual transmission to live up to its very sporting looks.
@davestvwatching2408
@davestvwatching2408 Жыл бұрын
The Reatta will definitely get attention at car shows.
@ScrotieJohnson
@ScrotieJohnson Жыл бұрын
it was another mis step by gms management. it could have been a good cheap gt car with the right parts. heck that ill fated turbo quad 4 would have been a great option. SEE (motorweek oldsmobile Quad 4 Prototypes) a turbo quad for reportedly made 250-280 hp depending on tuning.
@thedocofgreen2018
@thedocofgreen2018 Жыл бұрын
The svx was a joke when it came out. Worse qc ever, it literally cane with leaks and gaps that needed to be sorted before delivery. Hardly subaru
@BoulevardPark
@BoulevardPark Жыл бұрын
Lack of a stick is why i gave Reatta a miss
@BigRedReatta
@BigRedReatta Жыл бұрын
I own a Reatta. Love the car, great attention at car meets and a surprising amount or tuning potential. Buick's 3.8L v6 is a strong asf motor.
@mbd501
@mbd501 Жыл бұрын
The Catera wasn’t that underpowered for its time, with a 200 hp V6. The BMW 528i only had 190 hp at the time.
@Locruid
@Locruid Жыл бұрын
But the 528 was almost 400 lbs lighter and had 17 more ft torque to get it off the line
@SinlowMusic
@SinlowMusic 11 ай бұрын
The 528i of the same era was lighter, nicer inside, and infinitely better in every other way. You’re kidding yourself.
@DJRicoche
@DJRicoche Жыл бұрын
Isuzu VehiCROSS needs to be on one of these lists. I had a friend who owned one and quirky - is an understatement
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs Жыл бұрын
Interesting car though, it was a rally homologation car featuring a bunch of Isuzu's highest tech AWD driveline technology and a longer travel suspension. They did find their niche at least. They were also pretty quick off the line and worked very well in terrain most SUV's weren't made for. Sad Isuzu, like SAAB and Suzuki were involved with GM in this country, for an importer, being tied to GM is the kiss of death.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Жыл бұрын
@@Oldbmwr100rs Probably the main reason the VehiCROSS never made it here to Australia!
@atlabama
@atlabama Жыл бұрын
I had a 9-7X Aero. Besides a wonky AC, it was a good SUV. Interior was much nicer than a Trailblazer and slightly better than an Envoy.
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын
the Trollblazer
@atlabama
@atlabama Жыл бұрын
@@audreyappliance It was. If I recall they took a Trailblazer SS and fine tuned it.
@ScrotieJohnson
@ScrotieJohnson Жыл бұрын
@@atlabama it was a bravada with ss traiblazer powertrain and stiffer suspension.
@joshklaver47
@joshklaver47 Жыл бұрын
Was it quick?
@atlabama
@atlabama Жыл бұрын
@@joshklaver47 Quick for an SUV of its day.
@tonyo3544
@tonyo3544 Жыл бұрын
The GTO could have survived but it looked too much like a grand am/prix. I personally liked the new GTO.
@brian5o
@brian5o Жыл бұрын
The Saab 9-7X was by far the best looking version of the Trailblazer, I called it the Saablazer and the Saab 9-2X the Saabaru. The Saab visual treatment made both cars look sooo much better. While the 9-7X never got a great deal of attention, I believe that the 9-2X is highly sought after today, even more so than the same year Impreza.
@carexpertandy
@carexpertandy Жыл бұрын
I like that you included that Price is Right clip for the Cimarron. Yes, definitely include the Aztek in a non-luxury flops episode!
@miekamariehodson1731
@miekamariehodson1731 Жыл бұрын
He did
@kilohotel6750
@kilohotel6750 Жыл бұрын
I liked the SVX and GTO and think the T Bird would’ve sold a little better with a V8 and manual option but then it would’ve competed with the Mustang. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Eagle Talon, that was definitely the lowest sold of the Eclipse, Laser and Talon clones.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 Жыл бұрын
Was it? It had a second generation, while the Laser didn’t.
@TooLooze
@TooLooze Жыл бұрын
I test drove a new Talon and it broke down. I felt sorry for the salesperson; he had to walk miles to get help (before cell phones).
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 Жыл бұрын
@@TooLooze I did the same with a NEON when they first came out. Someone had done something to drain the battery so it wouldn't start. I ended up buying a Dakota.
@culcune
@culcune Жыл бұрын
​@2 Corinthians 4:7-11 It was a 'weird' V8, but it WAS a V8.
@joshklaver47
@joshklaver47 Жыл бұрын
The Thunderbird did come with a V8, and they also had plenty of non-V8 performance heritage, such as the supercharged V6 and even turbo inline-4 models. In the 90s, the supercharged V6 models were faster than the V8s.
@randybentley2633
@randybentley2633 Жыл бұрын
When I was in high school in the 88/92 timeframe, I saw a Merkur double spoiler XR4Ti in a Doctor's office park as I walked home. I have to admit that I love the looks of it even nowadays.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 Жыл бұрын
Same experience, dude. Spotted one, said, "How cool is that?" and never forgot the car.
@felicetanka
@felicetanka Жыл бұрын
The time when we thought physicians were high priests.
@enginepy
@enginepy Жыл бұрын
I was a kid and thought I was cool when I saw one and I would say “that’s an XR4ti” like I was a badass
@CharlieGosh
@CharlieGosh Жыл бұрын
The first year of Cadillac Cimarron/Pontiac J-2000 had a carburetor. Winter in Detroit (the cars were made in tropical Brazil) caused the choke to flood the engine after it had been run and then turned off for about an hour (choke was set for a richer start caused by the cold, but the engine wasn't cold yet). The plugs fouled and the car had to be towed to the dealer for new plugs. Subsequent years featured fuel injection. It also had an electric motor that drove a pump that powered the power brakes. That pump wore out around 75,000 miles. The diminutive Pontiac T-1000 available about the same time had a starter relay that was so chintzy they would routinely fail, stranding the car. After replacing 2 or 3 of them, wiser owners kept a spare in the glovebox for a quick, simple replacement. You are unlikely to see either of these cars anywhere today. A buddy had a Volkswagen Fox in 1985 (also made in Brazil). The heater was so underpowered it produced more heat on Medium fan than on High speed. While driving on a very snowy day the driver's windshield wiper was so flimsy it fell off (making it very difficult to drive!).
@Valorius
@Valorius Жыл бұрын
I had a Catera (used, got a great deal on it). Actually a really fun good handling little machine.
@Snocone333
@Snocone333 Жыл бұрын
did it come with cartoon bird hallucinations
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын
@@Snocone333 One can hope.
@nadermansour7487
@nadermansour7487 Жыл бұрын
Fiat 128 as a flop in the USA?
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones Жыл бұрын
I ❤ the SVX but never considered buying one cuz it was automatic only.
@6ettinold
@6ettinold Жыл бұрын
The Pontiac GTO-Holden Monaro is an Opel Omega in disguise, much like the Cadillac Catera. The Monaro was based on the Holden Commodore that in turn was based on the Omega. The Omega essentially manages to appear in the failed countdown twice!
@JonNewquist
@JonNewquist Жыл бұрын
The Omega genes are also in the Saab 9⁵.
@pokest225
@pokest225 Жыл бұрын
@@JonNewquist If you mean the last gen 9-5, it wasn´t based on the omega. It was based on the Insignia/Regal.
@JonNewquist
@JonNewquist Жыл бұрын
@@pokest225 I meant the one prior. Sure wish the last wagon had made it to Colorado dealers. All we got was a visit from the Spyker folks. I've only ever seen 3 sedans in the wild.
@cadillac4100
@cadillac4100 Жыл бұрын
The GM brass pleaded to Cadillac president Ed Kennard to delay the introduction of the Cimarron until the 1983 model year so they could tweak it up to differentiate from the other J cars.
@tetchuma
@tetchuma Жыл бұрын
I loved the Subaru SVX. If they had offered it in a manual, it would have been a hit
@erikk1820
@erikk1820 Жыл бұрын
Yup. The lack of a manual was certainly an issue. As was the challenge of getting people to into a Subaru dealership to buy an expensive luxury car. The car itself was great.
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 5 ай бұрын
I honestly would buy one if a manual existed.
@bruh_machine
@bruh_machine Жыл бұрын
The dual plane wing on the XR4Ti is functional, (the design of the car was the result of the aerodynamic Probe III concept) but the style was polarizing for American buyers. Ford switched to the single plane wing in an attempt to attract buyers, even though it wasn't as efficient.
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 Жыл бұрын
Only above 300 miles an hour.
@JonNewquist
@JonNewquist Жыл бұрын
It mimiced the wing on the same era Mercury Capri GT. I seem to remember EXP GTs getting a double wing as well, though that may have been custom one-offs.
@averyparticularsetofskills
@averyparticularsetofskills Жыл бұрын
May have been functional but definitely unnecessary.
@brian5o
@brian5o Жыл бұрын
I'm an American. I absolutely loved the dual plane spoiler on both the XR4ti and the Mustang SVO. I'd love to have either car but I personally think the XR4ti is even more special than the Mustang. I actually almost bought one in about 1992 or 1993. I wish I would have.
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Жыл бұрын
@@brian5o I bought a used 87 in 1992 at a huge discount. The cars lost value quickly. Loved that car and it actually held up well. It’s demise for me was a move to Phoenix. Lacking an intercooler it didn’t do well in desert heat.
@OLDS98
@OLDS98 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! You did a great job with the list a the video footage as well. Well narrated too. I was smiling and laughing and was like yeah... that is true. Sadly, GM made some mistakes indeed. I loved how well put together the video is and all the information too. I am a GM fan, but facts or facts and truth is truth.
@mrlevhil
@mrlevhil Жыл бұрын
Those mid 2000's Caprice Cop cars were nice. I hate they didn't catch on. The detectives in St Ann, MO had a couple in black.
@ryanwashere21
@ryanwashere21 Жыл бұрын
The biggest reason the Chevy SS didn’t sell was GM. They never really advertise it. It was more on an agreement to import the newer Commodore after GM dropped Pontiac. It was supposed to be the LS3 powered G8 which they made less than 1100 I think.
@242HP
@242HP Жыл бұрын
It's high price didn't help either, or the fact that it basically looked like a rental car Chevy Malibu. It was also the first Chevy "SS" car that wasn't an offshoot of a particular model, like the Chevelle SS, the Impala SS or the Camaro SS. Just calling it a Chevy SS was sort of weird.
@LynxStarAuto
@LynxStarAuto 11 ай бұрын
@@242HPI agree they should have named it the Caprice SS, but that name was relegated to the commercial chassis Caprice PPV (which was another Holden import) only sold to law enforcement. Really strange times at GM the late 2010's were.
@davidcampbell4995
@davidcampbell4995 Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK the Cimarron was known as the Vauxhall Cavalier and in mainland Europe as the Opel Ascona , available as a 2/4 door saloon,5 door hatchback and a Holden designed estate car. All shared the GM (j platform) and were available with a wide variety of different engine's , this model was a great selling car and helped to severely topple Ford's dominance in the European market , the Omega model replaced 2 models (Senator Carlton/Omega (a) ) and this model sold reasonably well
@TheSleepingonit
@TheSleepingonit Жыл бұрын
One mechanic loved it when I called it the Cadillac Cavalier
@arieljones4595
@arieljones4595 Жыл бұрын
NEVER knew CTS stood for Catera Touring Sedan. Mind blown.
@BenTLador
@BenTLador Жыл бұрын
Subaru also made another flop after the SVX, the Tribeca. The Ascent wasn't Subaru's first attempt at making a three-row SUV. When the Tribeca first came out, people hated how the front end looked. So Subaru fixed it at the facelift but to a point that it looked too generic and was forgotten instantly by everyone. Heck, the facelifted Tribeca looks like the type of SUV you'd lose at a parking lot. Fun Fact: Right before GM sold their 20% share of Subaru to Toyota, there were plans of making another three-row Saab called the 9-6x. It was a facelifted Subaru Tribeca but with the usual Saab grille instead of the generic looking Subaru one.
@CassidyListon
@CassidyListon Жыл бұрын
Aw man. Still waiting for a VW Corrado episode.
@VitoC.
@VitoC. Жыл бұрын
With Scirocco!
@steven.l.patterson
@steven.l.patterson Жыл бұрын
I remember a cousin’s boyfriend/husband buying a new XR4Ti - I thought it was cool. I’ve had two Saabs and three Volvos - all pre-GM & pre-Ford, respectively.
@plap.
@plap. Жыл бұрын
T bird was sad. It was a good looking car The Reatta was good looking too but they developed it as both front and rear wheel drive to decide which to pick and went with the fronts. if it was rear wheel drive it probably would have done better
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
Ford's early 2000s T bird seemed to grasp hard at the brief trend 1998 to 2007 era for "retro" hip cars, convertible models.
@sevenflashowls
@sevenflashowls Жыл бұрын
I think you can add most any Geo to the next list, the Escort ZR2, and the VW Carrado.
@jeffking4176
@jeffking4176 Жыл бұрын
That Subaru was one bad-boy car, though. Worked at a detail shop, and just across the parking lot , another business owner had one. We did detail it . Subaru was extremely innovative. Albeit in a strange way. Very cool series. 🚗🙂
@nixboox
@nixboox Жыл бұрын
The Thunderbird reboot failed because Ford picked the wrong version of the brand to reboot. They picked the 55 and should have gone with the 60. People wanted the grills like were found on the PT Cruiser and the HHR. The 60 would have that but the 55 didn't. Also, how sure are you that there are 10 cars? You seem to jump from 3 to 1 so...where'd 2 go?
@estebanmorales6487
@estebanmorales6487 Жыл бұрын
All of these made me facepalm. 80% was "what were the makers thinking", 20% was "what were buyers thinking". The Subaru SVX and the Pontiac GTO were great cars, but nobody bought them because reasons.
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni Жыл бұрын
A non-luxury car that failed: the Subaru Tribeca. It had adequate power for a midsized crossover with a 6 cylinder engine. However, it was smaller than the crossovers it tried to compete with (Highlander, Pilot etc), and as a result it had a much smaller second and third row than the competition. Also, the styling was controversial in 2006 and 2007. Subaru redesigned it for the 2008 model year, but it didn't help much. Fuel economy wasn't great either compared to other 6 cylinder AWD crossovers in its segment. By 2014 Subaru pulled the plug on the Tribeca and didn't make another three row crossover until the Ascent in 2018.
@Noah_E
@Noah_E Жыл бұрын
There was a gold early Tribeca (still had B9 in the name) in the parking lot at Costco today. Still ugly.
@Foxonian
@Foxonian Жыл бұрын
Plus, they were actually very close to making a SAAB version of the Tribeca. Thank goodness GM's money trouble scotched that idea.
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones Жыл бұрын
The new gto failed cuz it looked like a grand prix coupe. If they gave it the g8 styling in 03 it woulda been a smash hit.
@Valorius
@Valorius Жыл бұрын
Yep
@UnknownGhostK
@UnknownGhostK 6 ай бұрын
GM is greddy, they hardly like to invest , the reason why they had so many rebadge car that look similar. Cheap corporation.
@ScrotieJohnson
@ScrotieJohnson Жыл бұрын
During Chryslers purchase of AMC the main things they wanted was jeep and all of the engineers Renault brought on. The eagle premier was reworked in to the lh cars and the lx platform. Also the bravada was the 1st gmt 360 truck introduced, and had its own distinctive body ,until it was rebadged as a Saab and Buick.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Жыл бұрын
I'm still fascinated by how, in one fell swoop, Chrysler's buyout of American Motors killed the last domestic competitor to the Big Three (until Tesla came along) and pushed Renault out of the U.S. market, clearing the way for Peugeot's exit in 1991. Now the only French car you can buy in America is the million-dollar Bugatti.
@ScrotieJohnson
@ScrotieJohnson Жыл бұрын
@@stevenmaginnis1965 depends on what u mean as french, nissan/ mitsubishi 50% french ownership wise and nissan and mitsubishi share platforms and engineering with renault. and with stellantis we will see french cars reworked as chryslers.
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
The 400hp GTO seems like a car you could buy cheaply these days, and have one of the sleeper muscle cars under $10K like you had on another episode.
@flaxseedoil1000
@flaxseedoil1000 Жыл бұрын
It's called a bi-plane spoiler, same as the SVO, which is where they got the engine, which was detuned a bit.
@killer13324
@killer13324 Жыл бұрын
Still hoping for a video on the Buick LeSabre
@alpaljl
@alpaljl Жыл бұрын
LeSabre, Park Avenue, or Regal. All would be cool!!
@edwardautrey3671
@edwardautrey3671 Жыл бұрын
The Saab version of the Trailblazer SS equipped with the LS must be super rare
@culcune
@culcune 8 ай бұрын
I saw one at a mechanic's shop a couple years ago, and I asked the mechanic if it had a transmission mounted ignition switch. It did.
@gregmorris2022
@gregmorris2022 Жыл бұрын
You videos are great.
@MultiTelan
@MultiTelan Жыл бұрын
I miss the X-90. I have a feeling something stupid like that would work more these days where everything HAS to be all wheel drive.
@P.Galore
@P.Galore Жыл бұрын
Find me a great condition XR4ti, and I'll buy it. The Thunderbird is now going UP in price with collectors as is the G8
@that_jamesguy
@that_jamesguy Жыл бұрын
So good! I wanted a GTO so bad when I was younger…
@davinp
@davinp Жыл бұрын
Chrysler bought AMC because they wanted Jeep. Eagle was an AMC brand, but Chrysler dropped it after a few years
@gigachadtjk1956
@gigachadtjk1956 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Pontiac Aztek would be good for a series on interesting cars from movies/TV.
@fredd410
@fredd410 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a rare one from the 80’s...Bertone X19 (formerly Fiat)
@johnfinnerty252
@johnfinnerty252 Жыл бұрын
I was dating a girl at the time the Merkur 1st came out, she thought XR4TI was actually a word which she pronounced: “zuh-RAH-tee” Like “Maserati” minus the “Ma”. True story!
@BradLancaster86
@BradLancaster86 Жыл бұрын
I bet if they badged the OMEGA as a buick, gave it like puke for a colour and made it fit two golf bags in the trunk they would have sold so many cars.
@JohannesSebastian
@JohannesSebastian Жыл бұрын
The Omega was indeed a luxury car, a sports limosine like BMW 5.
@TheShornak
@TheShornak Жыл бұрын
I always liked that Pontiac GTO from the Holden cars. Always thought it was a good sleeper. And yes also love the SS and PPV.
@saablazer
@saablazer Жыл бұрын
I owned a 2006 Saab 9-7x 4.2i for 7 years and absolutely loved it.
@tractordave475
@tractordave475 Жыл бұрын
Great episode can you do an episode for the flops of the Ford explorer sport Trac?
@Theogenerang
@Theogenerang Жыл бұрын
Australians were told the Pontiac failed because it didn't have enough vents, scoops, chrome and other useless panel decoration to suit the U.S market. We couldn't believe it.
@IsaacLoven
@IsaacLoven Жыл бұрын
Australia is still in morning for the passing of the Manoro/Commodore /G8.
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the last generation T-Bird, but Ford threw it together. It was underpowered, squeaky, rattled, etc. Ford had a last chance to make a high performance T-Bird and crapped all over it. The MSRP was $50K for a few months and then they dropped it to $35K. But in 1990, you could get a new Lexus LS for the same price.
@MF_ZOOM214
@MF_ZOOM214 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that T-Bird had a lot going against it with being overpriced and underpowered, but everyone hates on the design. I think it’s a pretty good looking car. I love coupes, though. Especially 2 seaters, obtainable 2 seaters. I liked the Cadillac Allante and the Buick Reatta, both cars that were total flops. I guarantee if the Allante and Reatta were RWD they’d have a bigger cult following.
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
@@MF_ZOOM214 I agree with you completely on all accounts
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of these had decent premises at the start but were poorly executed.
@oldshowfanatic77
@oldshowfanatic77 Жыл бұрын
I thought the Buick Ranier replaced the Oldsmobile Bravada? 🤔
@runoflife87
@runoflife87 Жыл бұрын
I think both cars replaced the Bravada in their own ways.
@oldshowfanatic77
@oldshowfanatic77 Жыл бұрын
@@runoflife87 I could see that. Kinda like the Buick Terraza and Saturn Relay filled the gap left by the Oldsmobile Silhouette.
@Rascofresco11
@Rascofresco11 Жыл бұрын
Between this and Motorweek I'm probably all set for this weekend.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Жыл бұрын
The Scorpio should have been marketed as a Lincoln.
@jimgerock9190
@jimgerock9190 Жыл бұрын
It’s been a very long time since I’ve seen any of these. So sad the development money that was wasted.
@jakethreesixty
@jakethreesixty Жыл бұрын
There must be something wrong with me, because I've wanted most of these cars for years
@djkenny1202
@djkenny1202 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend with a love for Scorpios. Bought another 4-5 yrs ago. I think the Merkur is beautiful. Always liked them.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 Жыл бұрын
I remember the Merkur Scorpio when you. I personally liked it. However I never remember seeing any advertisement for it. The only reason I knew it existed was I happen to see it in a dealership showroom. Ford did market the XR4Ti more. I like that one as well, although it basically was a mustang underneath.
@CarsandCats
@CarsandCats 7 ай бұрын
Do you remember the squeeze bulb attached to the seat to pump up the lumbar support?
@marcrussell5295
@marcrussell5295 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1983 Mercury LN7 that I truly enjoyed and truly miss. I'd love to see a video of this highly underappreciated vehicle. Mine has a ¹.9l 4 cylinder engine and a 5 speed. I could drive from McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey to Buffalo, New York on a tank of gas, which at the time(1987) cost me a total of $27.00!!!
@hunterphille1280
@hunterphille1280 Жыл бұрын
What about the Eagle Talon?
@anymancandoitwiththerightools
@anymancandoitwiththerightools Жыл бұрын
One of those SVXs is right down the street from me.. it had transmission issues last I heard.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 Жыл бұрын
Always felt that The Market let down Bob Lutz... instead of the other way 'round. He had brilliant ideas! Feel like the company delayed them and changed them just enough to miss the mark. The dude was an inch away from glory.
@brettbanta2100
@brettbanta2100 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the Chevy SS was a sweet car. They were grossly overpriced though
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
If I had the $$$, early 2000s I'd buy a new GM Impala SS sedan. It had On Star 🛰, powerful engine, XM radio 📻. Impalas were popular for years.
@joelvinson
@joelvinson 8 ай бұрын
Man, I loved the XR4TI. SOmeone put together a custom at SEMA this year ( or last?). Either way, it was GORGEOUS.
@arixant
@arixant Жыл бұрын
mr2 spyder should have made the cut. the cars only sold ~23k units for the entirety of north america (excluding canada since it was never sold there). the final year of production for the usa in 2005 only sold 780 units total and the final 2006 model year in mexico only moved a total of 5. other parts of the world these cars exploded in popularity, even with the lack of advertising toyota did across the board for them. but in the land where toyota makes 23k camrys in the span of 2 weeks it’s widely regarded as a commercial failure here.
@2majortwinz
@2majortwinz Жыл бұрын
The Caprice would have sold good in the mid 2000's if it was offered as a civilian version.
@Foxonian
@Foxonian Жыл бұрын
It was. The Chevrolet SS was essentially it. But, GM didn't know how to market it so many didn't even know it existed.
@williambone7724
@williambone7724 Жыл бұрын
That Subaru XT coupe was very sleek and sporty. One of the few Subaru cars I would ever own.
@FXDGRND
@FXDGRND Жыл бұрын
I remember the cadillac cimarron as a kid. I thought it was pathetic. We used to drive by Casa De Cadillac alot and there was a brown/yellow combo one sitting on the side of the main buidling. It was new. I think they were ashamed they had to sell them.
@carringtonpageiv6210
@carringtonpageiv6210 Жыл бұрын
The X90 is so cute! I saw one for sale but I didn’t have enough!
@tirebiter1680
@tirebiter1680 Жыл бұрын
When people buy luxury and sports cars, they want a car that is better than an ordinary car. These have a higher price than ordinary car, but their buyers feel they are getting a better car, so it's worth the extra money. Mercedes Benz could earn a much larger profit if they paid Hyundai to build cars for them that were disguised to look like a Mercedes, but most people who test drove these cars and then looked at the price on the window sticker would think the salesman was a con artist who was trying to sell them a Hyundai with a Mercedes price.
@NYCS19339
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
The SAAB 97x internal structure was substantially different from the others oddly enough. The GM bunch wasn't too happy when the SAAB engineers improved it, but obviously increased the cost.
@magikahn
@magikahn Жыл бұрын
1986 Pontiac Turbo Sunbird. That car was a bottle rocket. It was cool, and fun, and fast when it was new, then blew up in a spectacular way...
@1969Risky
@1969Risky Жыл бұрын
The reason why the Holden V2-VZ Monaro, VE & VF weren't selling to well in the US was due to the US car union UAW. They thought that these cars would rob the US manufacturing & a deal was struck between management & UAW on how many could be imported. Plus these cars weren't heavily advertised in the US. The US were happy to have Kia & Hyundai's over without fuss but when it came from Holden Australia which GM owns it, they were screwed.
@fernandobarajas3157
@fernandobarajas3157 Жыл бұрын
How about a 10 best and 10 worst engines
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 Жыл бұрын
Catera commercials used to urge folks to "Lease a Catera" it caught a tv script writer's fancy and some tv program had a character named "Lisa Catera".
@romanseano
@romanseano Жыл бұрын
It was actually a package of the commercials themselves that used the pun: The announcer would say "Lease a Catera from..." (insert regional Cadillac dealer network name, then a brief pause) "Who IS Lisa Catera??" - while the animated duck shrugs its wings.
@GeeEm1313
@GeeEm1313 Жыл бұрын
The X90 has to be one of the most foul looking vehicles on the road. Especially when ordered in pink.
@MATTY110981
@MATTY110981 Жыл бұрын
The Ford Sierra’s jelly mould design wasn’t that well received in Europe. Especially with owners of the model it replaced the Ford Cortina. It didn’t help that was initially sold it only as a hatchback.
@char1737
@char1737 Жыл бұрын
What GM should have inported from Holden was the ute it could have been a Chevrolet el camino imho i think they missed out especially after the avalanche was ended
@shamarcobarclay1991
@shamarcobarclay1991 Жыл бұрын
The late 80's Nova should have been number 1 on the list. Man that car was a big mistake and disappointment 😂
@Slideyslide
@Slideyslide Жыл бұрын
I think Ford should introduce a Thunderbird sports car to compete against the corvette. It would go great with the reintroduced Bronco.
@curtiswritt8474
@curtiswritt8474 Жыл бұрын
The 9-7x Aero was Kick Ass!
@stevendorris5713
@stevendorris5713 Жыл бұрын
GTO suffered from the Zarella marketing fiasco and the esteemed brand manager. Bob Kraut.
@NDC1115
@NDC1115 Жыл бұрын
Missed FoMoCos other flop! The Lincoln Blackwood! Totally forgot about thier existence until I saw one yesterday
@MyOldCar
@MyOldCar Жыл бұрын
Watch my first Flops episode
@jaka286
@jaka286 Жыл бұрын
That XR4TI looks like a glorified stretched 1989 Ford Escort
@AlaskanInsights
@AlaskanInsights Жыл бұрын
I had a merkur scorpio , it had the v6 koln engine... great car till you needed parts.
@averyparticularsetofskills
@averyparticularsetofskills Жыл бұрын
The issue with the GTO was IMO the same as the Chrysler TC by Maserati, it looked as much like a Grand Prix as the TC did a LeBaron.
@artdalby6108
@artdalby6108 Жыл бұрын
The le baron looked like the TC, but by the time Maserati got production going the Le Baron had hit the sales floor.
@averyparticularsetofskills
@averyparticularsetofskills 10 ай бұрын
True but what truly mattered was the perception of the buyer and to the buyer the TC looked like the lebaron that they've already seen. So plans to release one b4 the other didnt change what car was actually released first. So the newly released TC looked too much like the already released lebaron.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Жыл бұрын
Failed cars? Cadillac XLR, Chrysler Crossfire, Mazda RX-8, Lincoln MKZ, BMW 850,
@olegal11
@olegal11 Жыл бұрын
Please do the Chevy lumina
@A3A4Tom
@A3A4Tom Жыл бұрын
SVX was a great GT instead of a sports coupe. Its a pity, at the same price of an E36 325iS and 900 Turbo 16, it wasn't able to be the "halo car" for Subaru.
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