Mysterio Becomes Venom! | Symbiote Spider-Man

Buy Symbiote Spider-Man right now! amzn.to/2E4i3Tv Back to black! Everyone knows that the infamous living costume that Spider-Man accidentally brought back from the Secret Wars would someday become the wicked web-slinger known as Venom - but what happened before Peter Parker discovered the suit's sinister symbiotic secret? Find out in this dynamic tale from comics legends Peter David and Greg Land! Set during the original "Alien Costume Saga," this all-new story pits the black-suited wall-crawling wonder against that most mystifying of menaces: Mysterio! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #spiderman
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[@austinf7201]

3 men in plaid and jeans talk about jigsaw puzzles, why do I love this

[@headshotmasters17]

😮post 0

[@Allean_Adkins]

😂🤣😂

[@HollowGolem]

That Tangents-worthy puzzle digression had me cracking up less than 5 minutes in. You guys really do have the best chemistry on KZbin.

[@MWhaleK]

Let's just hope they don't summon any Cenobites!

[@davisstudios1376]

i li said oooo

[@grantnewton4230]

2:50 the tragic moment that led to the Comic Pop Civil War

[@ibecommentingfrnocap]

it "puzzles" me this argument even happend

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

“You know, the maitre d’? I don’t know. The guy who works there. I don’t know what you Call the guy who works there...” *Tiffany (steps out from the darkness):* “Why, it’s the host, of course.” *steps back into the shadows* “Ah yes.”

[@jonathanshaw9704]

19:35 Funny enough, in Spider-Man PS4, on the JJJ podcast, he is constantly trying to say that it wasn’t his fault that the experiment made Scorpion crazy, and that the idea was to create a not threatening anti Spider-Man. But it was totally his fault.

[@benhramiak8781]

42:07 i love the image of electro sitting in the audience and slowly getting more and more pissed. he goes outside and just starts blasting away while shouting 'what the hell did i just watch? there's no plot to any of it!'

[@mitchellregan21]

I definitely would be interested in the Beniverse. Callous meeting the Jizzler or Baristo would be a sight to behold.

[@dannyhoffman3635]

And dont forget The Bear!

[@sergioruiz733]

"Hey Uncle Ben check out this piece!" 🤣 omg that was too much. 58:31

[@ChristopherZubin]

Mysterio is honestly one of the more interesting villains in Spider-Man's rogues gallery to me; conceptually, the master of illusion and subterfuge guys are just my favorite archetype. It's too bad he doesn't seem to get many good stories to shine in. I guess like my favorite Batman villain, Riddler, they're just more difficult to write for. The most interesting Mysterio story they've done on Back Issues was a Daredevil book for crying out loud....

[@lexofpower2822]

@Christopher Zubin I wholeheartedly agree. I’m also glad someone else kinda drew the parallels of Riddler and Mysterio be cool and having so much potential as villains. Also what Daredevil story was Mysterio in again?

[@ChristopherZubin]

@@lexofpower2822 Daredevil: Guardian Devil Like Sal says whenever the Riddler comes up, you need to either, be a genius, or you need enough time to write as one, and neither are common in comics.

[@lexofpower2822]

@@ChristopherZubin personally if I were doing a Batman story where he fights the Riddler, I would make Batman have to fight his way out of a Saw like escape room scenario. That was an idea for a Batman movie I had a couple years back.

[@brianadkins3880]

Coincidentally,saw this on Peter David's Facebook page a few hours ago: A question for the hive mind: We are going to be doing another Symbiote Spider-Man limited series. I was contemplating doing a story set during the Joe Fixit era, bringing Symbiote Spider-Man to Vegas. But then I realized that the times don't match up; that Spidey was no longer wearing the Symbiote suit when the Hulk reigned as Joe Fixit. So the continuity wouldn't match up. On the other hand, it was forty years ago. Do you think we should adhere strictly to continuity or just say "Screw it" and go ahead with it. PAD

[@MisterKetch]

Oh my god, shut up and take my money. Joe Fixit is the best hulk.

[@sundered_ant]

Tons of fantastic conversations in this episode! I especially loved the Ben-i-verse, the opening with Ethan, and the whole "pity sex" convo.

[@brianadkins3880]

Peter David is indeed a great writer. For those who may not know he not only wrote comic books like The Incredible Hulk,X-Factor,Young Justice,etc but also quite a few Star Trek novels. Before becoming The Undertaker in the -then WWF, he was known as "Mean" Mark Callous in WCW.

[@dn22pkkdd476]

This got me thinking, Peter David may be the only person on earth who may be able to create a coherent story using all the peices of Undertaker and Kane lore (including all the Journey Into Darkness and 90's comic stuff) if given a chance.

[@adamquenano8563]

To be fair Spiderman 30 years ago is better than he was 5 years ago.

[@pikapal91]

Agreed 100%. I miss the 80’s Spider-Man.

[@adamquenano8563]

Tony Stark The Spencer, And Zsadarsky are good but the development is gone.

[@DigitalRag3X]

2020-30=1990......I think you’re lying

[@adamquenano8563]

DigitalRag3X As a Character Peter was better developed then than he is now

[@levidu99]

adam quenano hell no, 90s Peter was far from being a developed character, dude kept going nuts and history was constantly getting erased, things are far better with Zdarsky or Taylor than it was with most writers in the 90s

[@pikapal91]

Fun fact, the guy who drew this series is notorious for tracing pornographic images for his characters expressions. Also the series has to take place sometime in the late 80’s because Spider-Man fights at Shea Stadium, and based on how it was drawn it had to have been the late 80’s.

[@caliph95]

It's really obvious sometimes which faces or poses come from porn too

[@prestonyates8003]

Felicia's face at 23:40 is classic Greg Land

[@Shoub-kb9sk]

Weird how they put that story or Symbiote Spider-Man into this episode about puzzles...

[@gerasandoval8649]

The amount of math going on in Sal's head deducing Peters first bang, Sherlockian mental palaces fall short

[@Martin_TheCollector]

Sal mentioning Kratos made my day. I love those games. Peter David is also awesome!

[@batfreeze56]

Had to pause this video at 0:16 because I heard the name "Greg Land." This is sure to be another home run of an episode.

[@TheGreatDevlin]

So DC movies came out in the Marvel universe...? Batman is just a media character to Mysterio?? Don't tell Grant Morrison!

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Grant Morrion: How deep can I make this rabbit hole go further?

[@alexandrumarin8981]

Fun story from my pov: I watched the Back Issues episode of the 90s' Symbiote Spider-Man, then I saw this book at the local game and nerdy stuff shop. First comic book I ever bought. Looking forward to what you say in this episode.

[@Trtevoorryu]

"Hey Uncle Ben, check out this piece".

[@bradwatkins7564]

I'm all in on the Beniverse...with Ethan as "The Puzzler"

[@jmail1984]

the Cats non sequitur at 41:45 is insanely funny! I've re-watched it 5 times!

[@donniehiland7000]

I think this story would be placed sometime during August or September of 1984 (though no clue where in the Marvel sliding timeline). The symbiote suit debuted in ASM #252 in May '84, as did Felicia's bad luck powers (PPSSM #90), and Reed Richards determined the suit was a living symbiote trying to bond with Peter in ASM#258 (Nov '84), so it's definitely somewhere in that interval. I say August or September because PPSSM #93 (Aug '84) is where Spidey and Cat argue over her disinterest in his Peter Parker identity and her almost revealing his secret to his landlady by going in and out of the apartment window. I doubt it would be October because visually nothing in this book looks like October in NYC--which again, the sliding timeline kind of makes irrelevant anyway--but it is Greg Land so ya never know haha. Also, it might be a fun little nod if David was pegging the canonical date of Uncle Ben's death to August 10th, the date that Amazing Fantasy #15 was published in 1962. In any event, it definitely takes place before PPSSM #98 (Jan '85), when Jonathan "Johnny" Ohnn becomes Spider-Man's greatest foe, the Spot! :P

[@Raain87]

The first name that comes to mind for a Venom Mysterio Mash-up is Ven-terio, but that just sounds like an STI.

[@Plyrrrr]

Puzzle talk is singlehandedly my favorite tangent ever thanks guys this video was part of my morning routine appreciate y'all starting my day with laughter that made my family ask if I was okay mentally

[@jeshuaavila1620]

Damn Aunt May sounds as harsh as my mom in this story

[@EmperorsVenetians]

Should've called it Spiderman: Eurotrip. That would've been funny to see the reaction to

[@comixproviderftw_02]

🎶Spidey doesn't know, that I'm not a hero, from another universe. I tell him I'm saving this world, except I'm destroying Starks legacy, still it doubles the damage. Spidey doesn't know. Ohhh, Spidey doesn't knooooow. So don't tell Spidey. Spidey doesn't know. Spidey doesn't know. So don't tell Spidey!🎶 -Mysterio

[@bensneb360]

Now I can’t get “Spidy doesn’t know, that Fiona and me, do it in my van every Sunday” out of my head 😂

[@comixproviderftw_02]

🎶Cause Spidey doesn't know. Spidey doesn't know. Spidey doesn't know. Spidey doesn't know. So don't tell Spidey. Spidey doesn’t knooooooow.... So don’t tell Spidey!🎶

[@KillerPredator900]

Such an underrated channel, you guys should be the most followed comic book channel

[@joshcormick5807]

I've been watching these to help me fall asleep for years now. Thanks for the new episode.

[@marleytalbot7991]

The first five minutes of this episode are glorious.

[@kessonga]

yo, i ain't even halfway thru and the punchlines in this episode are a plenty and hitting like TRAINS 💀 legitimately on track to being my favorite back issues, can't even exaggerate that lol edit: is for a fact my favorite episode took me about 2 hours to watch this hour 15 from the constant rewinding lmao amazing job, y'all 🤞 also my new rap name is "the callous"

[@olexiiy]

"Hey uncle Ben, check out this piece!" 😭

[@adamsos]

REALLY? Nobody on that couch thought to joke about flipping Hard Rock's name? Where are you at Ben!?

[@levidu99]

This book was a lot better than I expected and was reading it at the same time as I was reading the Alien Costume Saga and he really knew his continuity, still gotta check out the sequel though, but yeah sucks that Land is in this, the colorist is pretty good though and helps me stomach the art

[@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993.]

I also like the idea of Mysterio's plan was just to outright kill Mr. Mistoffelees.

[@goldbondisgod]

If only HardRock was in a different film industry his name would’ve changed by one letter

[@liamhemstock2286]

Will we see a Blue Marvel Back Issues similar to the Spawn Back Issues last year?

[@mighty_mattman]

ComicPop puts out a 74 minute Back Issues right before bed.. screw it! I don't need sleep

[@mikesetzer9379]

Comicpop consistently puts out content! Very addicting and I am always very excited

[@210nights6]

This episode was quintessential back issues ,love it !

[@sonicjr53]

Less than 3 minutes into the episode, and it's already hilarious

[@FifthHorseman23]

I stopped watching Back Issues to come watch Back Issues.

[@edmaldonado8207]

Same

[@Plyrrrr]

I used the stones to destroy the stones

[@captainvimes6079]

Favorite Back Issues to rewatch while waiting for a new ep? Mine: Court of Owls Mask in the Iron Man The one where Ben says "For England, Frankenstein?"

[@dinosaurusmaximus8506]

@@captainvimes6079 I GOTTA know when does Ben say "For England, Frankenstein"

[@SpiralSine6]

Captain Vimes In no particular order: Young Justice This episode All of the Star Wars episodes Batman: Universe Illuminati Most of the Bat Issues The Ultimate Spider-Man series The Crisis series It’s hard to remember all of them, because they’re constantly being replaced by more favorites.

[@riceman5641]

I’m excited to see you guys tear into Absolute Carnage and react to all the crazy moments 😂

[@ultimate_lance]

10:56 There's a dirty joke here but I'm not smart enough to think of one

[@coreydelaforce6560]

Now I have a New Favourite episode. Great work Everyone

[@kourtneyr.scruggs0988]

I’ve been sitting on this video waiting for when I had to work late... and alas, that day has come.

[@davidr6563]

“Fuck you” *disappears into the ether* hahahaha.

[@Revanxbone]

this feels like a story sal enjoyed, which is always a treat!!!

[@connorhanley5355]

Very quip heavy episode fitting for a Spiderman comic

[@dylanlewis5113]

Mysterio: Don't try to eat it. Kingpin: I don't want it.

[@EdoItachiAnbu]

Just finished reading it and unlocked this video as a reward for completion. Nice

[@landonny]

Symberio? Mysteriote? Mysymberiote? Whatever it's rad!

[@cray-seacoral]

Black Cat's surgery for bad luck powers have to be done underneath a ladder while Doctor opened an umbrella indoors.

[@kanborne]

the puzzle bit was so fucking funny

[@montbraestudios]

These videos are always a blast, can't wait for the next one!

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Ethan, the puzzle expert over here.

[@jesselion915]

Watching a random back issues episode during the election because I’m so anxious of the results and this is my comfort show

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

I've listened to the Puzzle part so many times now. Comedy gold!

[@taylorsachs5779]

“I was a big deal in the twenties” @comicpop that had me crying at work! 😂

[@Mrmikehoncho1992]

47:33 lol I was bummed Sal forgot the puking in helmet scene from earlier. Nice save!

[@haasztamas]

I actually really like Callus/Callous as a comic-book character name.

[@willcrouch2359]

Sal- He Zaps him Ethan with obvious disdain- With what? 😅 something about that made him look like he was judging someone through gossip he heard second hand

[@benhramiak8781]

i remember human fly being a villain in the flash thompson venom run

[@Sicod79]

I am watching this video from the past...so the time of when this happened in Marvel comics....oh no, I have gone cross-eyed.

[@mewmewodonnel5500]

Alternate title, the one where the guys talk about puzzles😂

[@coreydelaforce6560]

I had to double back for Ethans Fuck Yooooouuuu 🤣 so God damn funny. Love you guys

[@Night221Shadow]

I liked puzzles when I was younger. I guess I became less patient when I grew up.

[@shreeanshrajsharma8328]

thanks for making fun content for this international student away from home during these times

[@artman9000x]

Glad we got some puzzle talk from Ethan this episode 💀

[@danielaguirre901]

Love these episodes with 15 minutes of casual riffing at the start 👌 such a great way to start the discussion 😂

[@zoinks-man]

Shoutout to Noobmaster69 lol

[@goblinking382]

Loved the Hilarious tangents this episode!

[@chriskiser4143]

Omg a Back Issues on my birthday? This is the best present ever!!

[@Cubelarooso]

4:28 "Here's a puzzle. Try putting it back together. It's your horse." 20:19 Fun fact: Bluebird _is_ a Spider-Man character that coincidentally also first appeared in a retconned story that took place in Peter's highschool days. She was the alter-ego of one of Peter's friends. He got her killed. It'd've been cool if symbiote Mysterio had white wigglers flowing up from his head, evocative of flames, implying that's where the idea for Ultimate Mysterio originated.

[@padrehernandez188]

Hmm...Mysterio+Venom...could it bee Venere- Nope!

[@Iwoply]

Great Ep! I wasn't expecting the puzzle talk but I definitely needed it!

[@ctl6985]

Gotta have my Wednesday morning ComicPop. Ok now that's done I have to watch like 5 other episodes of Back Issues

[@MrFtpforlife]

I’m not a big fan of J. Michael Straczynski’s Spider-Man but I loved his arc issues when aunt May finally found out Peter’s secret. I think it’s one of the most and much needed significant changes to the Spider-Man mythos. It’s actually my head cannon. Love the chennel. Love the content. Big fan

[@johnensel6295]

Black Cat got her bad luck abilities from the dollar store brand Unlucky Harms vaguely not card board sort of cereal with hints of gluten.

[@djlionheart2791]

Shots fired and an endgame reference this is going be an episode

[@lordofthereels6790]

Despite how played out I find the symbiote I've always been curious what Black Cat would have done with the symbiote given her grey morality seems between Peter a d Eddie's. Plus being a thief the chameleon clothes changes seem more practical to her like shifting into a guard uniform to rob a major diamond and what not?

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

Yes! I've been waiting for a Symbiote Spider-Man issue review. I had no idea what the series was about, having picked it up around the time of Absolute Carnage. Glad to have this information.

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

I would love to see Kingpin in a symbiote. The only thing better would be Felicia wearing it. Imagine her not being able to be picked up by Spider-Man's spider sense and using its mimic features. Instead of looking like Spider-man I assume it would take on her normal costume, and the white cuffs on her hands or the white fluff around the color would be where the "eyes" are located.

[@AV01]

2:04 Best of ComicPop puzzle

[@fritschxf]

You guys are so great! Thanks for the great content as always 👍🏾 👍🏾

[@pipedreamer9781]

While I don't believe in redrawing other peoples art, it would be pretty cool for Greg Land to come back to and take the time to touch up his more awkward frames. He can genuinely be a good artist when he really takes his time.

[@Jay-dg5vo]

3:27 "FOK UUU"

[@blackzaxh384]

Some spicy Comicpop puzzle takes on this episode

[@andrewlewis2123]

Another Back Issues Classic! Thanks all! One pet peeve I have whenever Venom comes up, is how is he stronger than Spider-Man? I get that Eddie Brock is a bodybuilder and is physically larger than Peter Parker. But if Regular Human Man Eddie Brock were to arm-wrestle Radioactive Spider Guy Peter Parker (nebbish bookworm notwithstanding), Peter is way, way stronger than baseline Eddie. So when the symbiote enhances Brock’s “peak human conditioning” or whatever, how is Venom stronger than Spider-Man, who was already superhumanly strong? Is the symbiote just that big of a multiplier? Or should I just accept that it’s comic logic and Venom is stronger because he’s bigger?

[@loganshirley9058]

I think the longest running Broadway show at the time this book is set was A Chorus Line which is basically Cats but about human dancers

[@willrandolphv1588]

The Population demands a Beniverse Tee

[@jacobramos3473]

53:35 I think this is the explanation of the symbiote being in the MCU, even tho not really explained here I feel like they used this as reference

[@benhramiak8781]

love the opening

[@racc4716]

Birthday Back Issues! Great episode as always

[@oddysixl]

Spider-man gets into too many altercations because of graveyard interaction

[@fredrikgranstrom6743]

what an awesome idea

[@lukang2804]

4 minutes in and you all are cracking me up 😂😂😂

[@JoshMunroe]

Sal: Fun story that matches the tone of a comic from the era for which it was written! Me: Yay! Sal: Also art by Greg Land. Me: Oh.

[@rayvenkman2087]

If only the artist of Dan Slott’s ASM had done the art.

[@NewPhoneWhoThis52]

I just started college again I needed this 👍🏽

[@coryfountain4638]

“Now be PJs” 😭🤣😭

[@coryfountain4638]

Hard rock 🤣😂🤣 bro this episode got me dying!