Mysterious ANCIENT sites in Finland Part 2

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In today's video let's take a look at some pagan structures in Finland!
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[@pystykorva7114]

One interesting topic is the "sword grinding stones" - miekanhiontakivet. In Finland the only ones I think are found in Häme region and i would assume not all are not even found yet, some of them are also destroyed intentionally.

[@aleksirissanen9791]

It always amazes me how old some things are. Growing up around Nova Scotia Catholics for a long time gave me a sense of "nothing important happened before Jesus was born" and so now that I'm older and can do my own looking around it amazes me that there where people who stood on the same ground we stand on today with entirely different lives and total life experience than us, just living in the area in the woods they called home and praying and making offerings to gods that predate even the gods we already consider ancient.

[@IrishinFinland]

Right! One subscriber has told me about a fishing net found in Finland that dates back to 5000 BC! A fishing net, from 5000 bc.......

[@timoterava7108]

@@IrishinFinland en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antrea_Net The Antrea fishing net is even older. It's dated to 8.540 BCE - in other words it's 10.540 years old! It's one of the oldest known fishing nets in the World.

[@mantailuaa]

My grandmum always told me that if you wash your hand that has warts in a rain water cathered to cupstone the warts would dissappear after a while. Never had warts so have not been able to test the method.

[@vangariuss5429]

Theres also kukkarokivi in ruissalo turku that has intresting back story about two giants killi and nalli

[@FlyTyer1948]

Thank you for discussing this topic. It would be quite interesting if you could visit & make a video on these locations with commentary on what you see. I have to agree with the old Finns that undeveloped forests & the oceanside are fine places to worship & renew one’s spirit or soul, regardless of whether you worship a Judeo-Christian, Muslim or other god. To call someone pagans is to say they are wrong because they believe in different god, gods or other form of spiritual being.

[@Lupupu]

Wow, you work fast! This video turned out even better than I was expecting. Great work! Also thanks for the shout-out. :) Before Christianity arrived in Finland, hiisis were sacred places or cemetaries, but Christians, in their efforts to erradicate Finnish paganism, built their churches on top of these sacred places and labeled the rest of the hiisis as forbidden. So as time passed the remaining hiisis became these demonic places in folklore and the word hiisi started to mean also an evil mythological creature. If you want to check out the Hanikka glacial erratic, I can recommend the nature trail at Hanikka, which is close by. It has some cool prehistoric spots, like an ancient rock pile grave and some ancient sea shore, which is up on this hillside.

[@IrishinFinland]

I'm sorry I didn't include a screenshot of your comment! 😭 I'll remember for next time!

[@Lupupu]

@@IrishinFinland No worries. I'm not looking for internet fame or anything. xp But in general it might be a good idea to include screenshots of comments, if they give you video ideas, because it helps to grow a sense of community.

[@JuhaK71]

Strange, my comment is disappeared also. I told about the ancient sites called "jätinkirkko" , "the church of the giants" as translated... Cheers, Juha

[@billcollins9308]

I really enjoy your videos. Strangely my mother's mother is/was from Finland and her father was from Cork, Ireland. Thank you for your work. Bill Collins

[@nisaba5752]

Lol I'm 3rd generation Finnish-American, grew up hearing the language (Häme dialect/Tavast & Karjalainen also)...and am Northern Irish and Welsh on both sides of the family as well. I think British-Americans think Finnish immigrants are exotic 😁

[@oakstrong1]

There is one such stone on an island called Muuratsalo (now part of Jyväzkylä). When I was a kid I was given to understand it was holy and some people still paid tribute to it. Later it got a plaque (I think) explaining it to be a remnant from ice age. I haven't been there for decades, I don't know if it still stands there or has it been cleared out of the way from "progress".

[@romukauppias]

I live in Jyväskylä so I can go to check that place! I'll let you know if it is still there 👌😎

[@rustyspace900]

Too bad the Finnish nature is so unforgiving when it comes to keeping the man made structures in shape :/ Either the trees and vegetation destroy everything or ice and water.. Not to mention most of the structures were made of wood, unlike in the south. That's one reason Finland has thought to have so little history.

[@Sienisota]

I think the biggest reason must be that we built from wood, and in order to protect from water damage, everything was covered in substances that were so damn flammable. So many older buildings, villages and towns burned in every few centuries and were then rebuilt. Nothing old stayed old when a stray spark hit it.

[@JanneValkama]

It is possible that the kastellin jätinkirkko featured wooden structures on top of the stone foundations... You can imagine how that could have looked like a church, castle or mansion ;) of course now the foundation has eroded down to a vague pile, like you said, because the weathers are unforgiving.

[@romukauppias]

Thank you for making these videos and always speaking about my country with such a respect! 🙏 You make me feel proud again of my father's land!

[@romukauppias]

Plus, these are really educating videos and you are also teaching me a bunch of new stuff!

[@andreahelenbanach2635]

thought on kuppikivi: i know that native americans had places near water that you can find similar to the cupstones where that would grind wheat and corn and then and water to make a doe for bread and it have been a similar thing at kuppikivi and instead of being next to a river it also colected rainwater and and they may have used it for both the water and the grinding food...just a thought

[@gebus5633]

Just a bit of a nitpick of sorts. In the word hiidenkirnu that kirnu is not a kettle. It's a churn, and the smooth holes in the bedrock with round stones/rocks often found in them reflect it pretty well. They can be very deep when compared to the size of the opening. A lot of power in the glacial meltwaters. It's more than just a hole with water in it. The water actually obscures most of it, and the unexplainable properties (for the ancient people) like smoothness and the depth and the (kinda sorta perfectly) round stones in them are probably the reason they needed a fantastical explanation.

[@statostheman]

Look up about the Aumakivi in Lauhanvuori nationalpark in Isojoki (Means big river in finnish) where the park it self its an UNSECO geopark.

[@Son-of-Tyr]

Great job as usual. Impressive knowledge of your topic. Loved the video bud.

[@IrishinFinland]

Thank you very much and I really appreciate the support

[@ranacker]

I used to live near to the oldest two hiidenkirnus in Finland. Cool to find them in Helsinki, just casually in a neighbourhood. E: fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pihlajam%C3%A4en_hiidenkirnut

[@IrishinFinland]

Oh damn! That's awesome!

[@ranacker]

@@IrishinFinland yeah, pretty grazy and amazing. I added a link to Wikipedia (in Finnish)

[@SuSiMa1lu]

Hiisi vieköön is a saying in everyday language, a sort of deluded way of saying "goddamit".

[@dennislindqvist8443]

Jag skulle kunna tänka mig att flytta till Dublin. Kruxet är att jag saknar någon specifik utbildning. Kan man överleva där ändå? Deras ekonomi lär väl blomstra tack vare brexit.

[@WvsL]

Why is that my comment about The Antrea Net is erased, look it up it is a 11 000 year old fishing net found in Finland...

[@WvsL]

2 times I wrote about it and it was erased, someone doesn't want that net to be known. It was in display our national museum but now it is in storage, can you imagine that one of the most important finds in Finland and it is buried in storage somewhere.... We know who to blame for that, don't we?

[@IrishinFinland]

That's, odd, I have my comments filter turned off aswell!

[@WvsL]

@@IrishinFinland Like I said someone doesn't like that net to be known... Please make a video about it so it get more visibility....

[@WvsL]

Most Finns have never heard about it, I would say about 99%. You can ask your nearest and dearest there have they heard a 11 000 year old fishing net that was found in Finland, I bet they haven't.... Ty for your videos👍 awesome job you do....

[@WvsL]

Some say it is a seal net, but anyway it is not a small net, around 30 m or 100 ft long...

[@TheNismo777]

Cupstones can be found from rapola too if I remember right :)

[@MilenaAnnina]

All videos end up to Rapola (Rapolanharju). How about video of that place? Info could be found in Museovirasto muinais(muistomerkit). EDIT: First it was Rapola with ancients, Akaa at medieval times, and now Valkeakoski, but the name of the beautiful village surrounding that ancient castle is called Sääksmäki, if that helps.

[@avari6167]

I think those cupstones are just for crash grain etc

[@qwertyu600]

Finnish people had the skills to move a 1500 ton monolith from Finland to Russia in 1700s, they talked about this in Joe Rogan few weeks ago. Maybe you could find something about the subject?

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

It takes some time to realize it, but those boulders absolutely destroy the "cultural layer" idea.

[@Sissivanska]

Hiidenkirnu is really a Hell's Churn in English. ;)

[@5ratsastaja]

Dont forget The Temple of Lemminkäinen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYTEqmmemLmDnac

[@ivi7792]

hyvä kanava sulla

[@MilenaAnnina]

Every Finnish person knows " Vesihiisi sihisi hississä", but could someone please TRANSLATE that?🤣🤔

[@jussikuusela7345]

@Helzagore when I was young, my grandma warned me about the "kaivohiisi", well demon, that might take me if I went too close.

[@Haukka790]

You're somewhat limited to comment Finland, staying mainly in Oulu region, as I understand. There's a lot more. Kalevala i.e. brings along evidence of a major earth tremble in Carelia thousands of years ago, and those marks can still be found. The main point in this is, that stories carry along truths. Try to see what SEITA means!

[@Raccoon_A]

kuuleha sie youtube opettaja: Suomen alla on niin vanhaa peruskalliota, että täällä ei oo tapahtunu maanjäristyksiä satoihin tuhansiin vuosiin. Tää varmaa selviäis ku googlais ees kerran, mutta enpä taida jaksaa.

[@Rattock]

Googlaaminen olisi kannattanut, sillä lainaten Seismologian instituuttia: "Suomessa tapahtuvia maanjäristyksiä rekisteröidään vuosittain useita kymmeniä. Nämä järistykset ovat suhteellisen heikkoja, magnitudiltaan 0-4." Oulussa koin järistyksen 2017, tosin sekin oli suht pieni, kestäen muutaman sekunnin. 1626 sattui isompi maanjäristys, joka romahdutti Paltamon ensimmäisen kirkon.

[@Rattock]

@Helzagore Näin jälkiviisana on jotenkin hämmentävää, miten saatu päähän rakentaa yhtään mitään torppaa isompaa noin pehmeälle maalle, liekkö aikanaan rakennuspaikan valintaan vaikuttanut kirkkokansan paikalle saapumista helpottanut vesireitti. Mutjoo, kuvakirkko ja ympärillä oleva vanha hautuumaa on jänniä paikkoja.

[@acedemerald9893]

@@Raccoon_A Vaikka Fennoskandian kallioperä on aika yhtenäinen, sijaitsee esimerkiksi Perämeren alueella vanha siirroslinja, joka aiheuttaa näitä pieniä maanjäristyksiä.

[@reiper8419]

Bock saga

[@Peter-oh3pm]

People like to invent interesting stories. Truth is more simple; iceage.

[@IrishinFinland]

1, 2 or 3? Great movies, fun for all the family

[@tomihaili8756]

By the way caffeine addiction is a sign of poor diet. Not getting enough energy.

[@IrishinFinland]

Yes.