Mystery of the Gobekli Tepe "Handbags"

[@tedbanning9090]

Actually, it was NOT the excavators who identified the Göbekli "handbags" as buildings, each marked with the animal symbol of a lineage or "house;" it was me, in a 2011 article published in Current Anthropology. I am gratified that my interpretation is gaining interest, including among the current excavators there.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Oh, sorry for not giving proper credit!

[@jamespigman3636]

Has their been any speculation or theory about the 3 Göbekli “handbags” possibly being viewed as a portrayal of caves? Possibly a bird and goat/ram as the animals in between? I know it’s far fetched but I have a theory that GT is a memorial (or prophecy) to the post flood world where Noah releases all of these animals who dwell among them for years. And as God gave Noah instructions and specific measurements on how to build the ark, he also gave instructions to build this area to record this new/refreshed world. Which is an explanation of how a Hunter/gather civilization with no previous stone work or carving skills would be able to create such detailed pieces. Sticking with the cave idea, could represent prophecies of Christ being born in a stable (some believe the stable was a built in cave on the side of a hill), Ein Geidi where David hid from Saul or possibly a prophesy that the Dead Sea Scrolls could be found in 11 caves. I have no evidence or basis on this theory. PURE conjecture and an alternate theory!

[@willempasterkamp862]

the solely opening at the top (not floor level) and the lack of space (unable to walk around these 'houses' ) let me suggest you it are graves (houses of the dead) . Migratory birds as cranes and storks as announcers of death and birth just below them plus a vulture like bird (symbolic for mortality) plus a setting or dawning sun ( cyclus of life and death ).

[@charlesgallagher1376]

@@willempasterkamp862 how do you know what they thought?

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

​@@willempasterkamp862they started without any cult why are you so sure these animal figures had any symbolic religious meaning at all they could be a simple map of territories around pointing out geography

[@coloneled2831]

Interesting and useful information. It's good to have someone haul me out of the rabbit hole every now and then.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thank you. I'm glad it proved useful!

[@coloneled2831]

@@WorldofAntiquity You are very welcome. Your style is engaging to say the least! However, I'm afraid your job is not yet done because half of me is still stuck in the Saqqara rabbit hole. I noted with interest your reference to the Serapeum boxes but I would like to know more. Have we any idea who, why, when and most of all, how? After watching UNchartedX's many enjoyable offerings on the subject one could be persuaded that mainstream academia is refraining from further investigation for fear of the inexplicable. I'm sure you disagree with this conclusion (!) and I hope you could refer me to some reading to further my understanding. If you had the time or inclination , a video on the subject would be most welcome and a further service to the real achievements of those marvellous Ancient Egyptians!

[@WorldofAntiquity]

I did a 3-part series on UnchartedX. Have you had a chance to see them yet? Lots of talk about Saqqara in Part 3. They are called Ancient High Technology, Ancient Advanced Machining, and Precision.

[@coloneled2831]

@@WorldofAntiquity Thank you. I'm now greatly looking forward to watching them and then checking out the rest of your videos. I'm almost free!

[@jamiehoran3901]

What did you think of AA's take on the expansion of the Great Pyramid? It was a long video which, owing to his previous work, I watched it with some trepidation. After about 35 minutes he was keeping my interest and in the end, i found his reasoning solid. Have you seen it? Also, in that video, he layed out some thoughts on the king's chamber which i found to be interesting and, in light of Hudin's work, actually plausible.

[@coryleeroesler]

The perfect blend of debunking pseudoscience, fascinating discussions with actual expert and presenting information with humility, expertise and passion for understanding the past. This channel is a massive breath of fresh air. When channels like this outnumber the charlatans and skulduggery, the world will be a much better place. Thank you so much for all of the work you do.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

I appreciate hearing that!

[@johnhough7738]

A balance is indeed good; but I still likes me cranks and stuff. (And sometimes the cranks make good points ... certainly often food for thought.) Anyway, without the odd crank or two we might still be keeping well clear of the edge of the world or enviously watching eagles soar whilst we hoof around on horses ... communicating by pigeon or tom-toms ...

[@E23Dav]

You're my go to channel for dispelling misinformation concerning antiquity. Credible work is invaluable. Well done. Thanks!

[@JonnoPlays]

So I've been watching Ancient Architects for a few years now. And I've gradually watched him get more in line with official archeology and stop making wild claims. Especially with regard to his Egypt content. I always wondered why this happened. I'm positive now that his interactions with you had a great influence on his content production style and the claims he makes in the videos. This was a real "head scratcher" to me for some time so I'm glad I found your content.

[@Phorquieu]

Once again, you have produced a video that is not only informative but a true voice of reason and sanity (so needed when others try to deliberately mislead, or, sadly, actually believe, the nonsense that springs from lack of understanding - or from some kind of psychological insecurity). Also, your knowledge of the cultures and archaeology of the ancient world is impressive. Thanks for your postings on KZbin!

[@joonzville]

The Australian myth of the entity carrying "children" around in a bag would maybe be inspired more by all the marsupial animals in Australia than a (not very similar) myth from Sumeria/Babylon/wherever in the ANE! I just found your channel…and subscribed! Thank you for taking the time to apply current historical/archeological/scientific understanding to some of these popular, but badly researched and formulated, hypotheses wrt aliens/super ancient advanced civilizations. Your work is greatly appreciated.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Welcome!

[@RhodeIslandWildlife]

They're not buckets or bags, they're car doors They were used for cooling, when it got hot out they rolled down the windows. Thanks for the videos.

[@rdwwdr3520]

To me they looked like the symbol for Android OS. Now THAT would be some youtube awesomeness! Linking THAT to the ancient Australians & Sumerians.

[@anunnakielohim2727]

Göbekli Tepe was a restaurant, those animals were just the menu. the figure of a man with his hands around his stomach means 'good eats', those "bags" are doggy bags and take outs.

[@GalactusOG]

@@rdwwdr3520 It was an ancient lost MEME meant to trigger the snowflake mainstream NPCs

[@redclayagain]

Im, thinking 1948 Hudson doors.

[@choosecarefully408]

_Damn_ that's funny. Actually, The Problem is kind of built into human nature. While children certainly _like_ the idea of some Great Force rewarding them, most aren't seriously married to the idea that Santa is or has to be real. It's just that before age eight, children can't separate the notion of their parents *lying* to them from contemplating that there could be a good reason *why* they lie. That's a bigger deal than it first appears for two reasons. First, if they can't separate those things, then knowing their parents lied for any reason would be too much for children to bear. There's No Possible Reason For the lie, so their emotional world is shattered. The *second reason is* that the vast majority of people do _NOT_ outgrow the desire to view Great Forces as being Perfect Entities who Protect Them. Thus when some people realize that *politicians* lie & can't separate politicians from their notion of what 'Government' is, then they start screaming inwardly like children. Then to them, they see _everything_ 'Government' says as a lie. Flat-Earthers are the best example of this. You can't have the sun rising over different parts of a flat surface at different times. The end, right? No. It's not _about_ facts. The urge to associate Truth with some Great Force that Provides It is greater than one's patience to figure things out. So much so in fact that most people can't live without ascribing this benevolence to some easily-identifiable *representation* of force, hence why politicians have become modern day's Unquestionable Priests. Also, the Unknown is a very disturbing concept to the insecure, which is most people. They have to fill any mental files marked 'Unknown,' I meant that exactly as said. They don't require Truth to fill those files: they require only that those files are filled. This is why ideas requiring little or no thought will always have more adherents to them. & once a notion fills a file previously marked 'Unknown, the subconscious, always uneasy with that term feels a wave of relief & endorphins, so it becomes very attached to that notion. Who do those people concerned about the effects lobbying have on the decisions of their decision-makers appeal to to end lobbying? The very politicians who take the lobbying $. The notion that 'politicians' = 'Government' & 'Government' = Benevolent Protector moved into those files of uncertainty, gave superficial comfort, & now supposedly rational adults approach politicians as if they are extensions of some Benevolent Being concerned for their welfare. _Not_ as funny.

[@tolentarpay5464]

This is a very tidy presentation of the Scientific Method, as applied to Historical & Anthropological research; kudos to you, Ser!

[@tedbanning9090]

Your videos are very impressive and extremely well argued. Thank you for injecting reason into these discussions. You explain some basic archaeological logic extremely well.

[@JonnoPlays]

Another great video. You should add chapters to this. Might help the algorithm pick it up and get it out there more. Great work I like your style.

[@tehbonehead]

I don't even understand how the concept of carrying seeds (or anything else) in bags should even be a "thing." We've been carrying crap in bags for teens of thousands of years... why would it be more than casually linked over all that time?

[@kp-legacy-5477]

if you are the first culture to develop agriculture than seeds will ofc be prominent

[@neva_nyx]

I have read something by Samuel Noah Kramer discussing the pine cones, dipped in water, sprinkled on those that enter the temple was what those are depicting. Why have folks at the door when you can have permanent deities doing it. Protection, fertility, and cleansing for worshippers both coming in and exiting. Its more believable than once living slave masters doing who knows what 🤷‍♀️

[@waynebow-gu7wr]

They've just found some cave art that links the Australian Aborigine's to the Sumerians.... it's a painting of a huge ' Sydney Harbour Bridge ', that spans across the ocean.

[@tolentarpay5464]

And evidence of that ancient Aboriginal spirit - "Kilroy-was-here"...

[@annawarren-sullivan7630]

🥴

[@GalactusOG]

There are literally tribes of people in South America that have been there since before it was called America that are related to the aboriginals. Proven with DNA. Joke that away.

[@garryferrington811]

Made by aliens. 👽 Or maybe Mexicans.

[@onbedoeldekut1515]

My simple answer to why depictions of bags look the same or similar over a great timespan is quite obvious to me. It's because with the same types of material (generally grasses), a standard pattern develops over a great timespan, determining what works and what doesn't, and eventually, the various designs all across the globe coalesce into a design which appears close to identical, without the requirement for cross-community knowledge transfer. It's the same way that tools become a standardised size for the same task, i.e. bronze chisels for carving caverns. Human biomechanics are roughly the same across the globe, meaning it takes most people the same effort to strike a chisel with an average strength, using a standardised mallet to be able to work for extended periods. A chisel with a wide edge won't work as efficiently as one that directs more force on a specific area, and so the chisels across the globe will eventually reach similar sizes and shapes to perform the same or similar function.

[@serhanaksak7517]

I was in Gobeklitepe a few months ago and it was stunning! It made me question everything we learnt about human history. Your video was helpful too, love from Belgium :)

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Sounds like a fantastic trip! I hope to visit there some day soon.

[@themaskedman5954]

@@WorldofAntiquity I have a doubt but not related to this video can you please respond?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@themaskedman5954 On what topic?

[@themaskedman5954]

@@WorldofAntiquity About Bell Beaker culture David Reich in an interview said something like skeletons from central european part of the beaker complex harbored 50% yamnaya ancestry but we have no evidence of yamnaya entering there (beaker complex) archaeologically Is that true? I don't know much about archaeology of bell beaker culture 50% of ancestry but no trace in archaeological records is strange So this is my question

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@themaskedman5954 This might be a good one to post on my Did Civilization Begin in India video.

[@damojames974]

I'm Maori from NZ and we have stories of the first man Tanenui-a-Rangi climbing a tree into the seven heavens and coming back with three baskets of knowledge

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Interesting! Yes, I expect baskets and bags can be found in many mythologies They are such universally useful items.

[@mgman6000]

Exactly how can other cultures have the same story if they weren't interconnected somehow

[@recursr1892]

Another explanation could be many cultures share a common set of narrations-Crecganfort‘ Channel searches this pathes with a scientific method, phylogenetics, to discover earlier versions of narrations. This 3Bag thing could be something for him. While 2 cultures might not be directly connected, they are all relatives. I expext similarities. I just wonder why some motives (like Snakes) are so dominant over other motives-I would expect more random differentiation over time. But may be the ancient cultures where in frequent exchange, that would explain it partially.

[@christina22able]

No conventional archaeologist admits that thousands of years ago, there might have been on earth some type of other beings, not necessarily humans. Relevant proofs can be seen on buildings, pictures and ancient artifacts. My view is that as long as this stereotype mindset is not changing and all are unwilling to see thinks on a broader horizon of existence then no body can claim that is aware of the truth. There are ancient buildings all around the world and mainly in uninhabited jungles and deserted areas. We are all aware that human beings could not be the architects of those structures. Mesopotamians Egyptians, Greeks etc are carriers of ancient oral knowledge considered by contemporary archaeologists as myths.

[@minnaspinna2070]

Just watched Parts 1 and 2. I appreciate both sides of the issues. More knowledge and opinion helps the realities of the ancient world to become clearer and clearer. The point is to keep searching and asking the questions. Thank you for your input.

[@truthseeker6116]

Excellent video. I learned a lot and will be looking at artifacts, carvings, etc from ancient history much more carefully from now on. Cheers.

[@danielwamsley779]

quite impressed with the explanation of the bags ........very helpful

[@1123thumper]

I'm really glad that both of you spoke.

[@erinmcgraw5208]

I love when you zoom out of the Sumarian prayer sculptures image, only to show he cropped out the Bird-looking one! 💙 lol. Your explanations are always revealing, whereas the "alternate theories" have to tread lightly through the facts & are always stronger with LESS information! Very interesting!!!

[@Shady-Shane]

@15:03 my grandson says it looks like the Easter Bunny and they are definitely baskets for the eggs. he also said the hands symbols are a mystery.

[@almor2445]

This is great, well done indeed. I've been down a week long rabbit hole of Pseudo Archeology videos and I'm now binge watching yours. I can't wait to see what you have to say about the Pyramids of Giza and the claims that they are power stations or something.

[@greatscott369]

You would think archaeologists were in a furious battle over it but it looks like it's just handbags

[@exittomenu]

As an artist with a weakness in representing musculature, Assyrian reliefs are especially gorgeous to me for their near immaculate detail

[@andypowell4538]

Enjoyed another great video, your clearing it all up, thanks

[@stefcui007]

Gobekli Tepe could have been a building developer selling estates in neighbouring settlements that mimic the master plan at Gobekli Tepe. No seriously, great video. I'm slowly working my way around your entire repertoire. It's been very helpful.

[@StoutProper]

You mean it was a show home?

[@stefcui007]

@@StoutProper, lol... Exactly! For the skull cult that existed there. Creepy arse home buyers.

[@booboolicoius]

Thank you!! Thank you!! This channel (I just discovered) is an oasis cool and bright flowing with rationality and gorgeous, clean, empirical data .. Thank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!! So awesome !!!!

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Welcome aboard!

[@MPLS_Andy]

You're doing great work man. You make great videos.

[@Plague_Archangel]

Excellent video. Next subject: the infamous wrist watches the 'Anunnaki' sport.

[@nathandavis5003]

I have enjoyed this series, I continue to enjoy your factual review of these items that are so often used by alternative researchers. The topic I would really like to hear is Cusco and other places in Peru being much older then Incans. Unchartedx and others have many videos on it. You have earned my sub.

[@johnruge1218]

Look up the sound chamber at Chavin, Peru. Everything is vibrational in nature, and that science is worldwide amongst the Ancients. Megalithomania 'Before the Olmec and Quetzalcoatl' sheds a lot of light on this. Also, energy lines of the earth, following mineral deposits was known in past times (@ 30 min).

[@AndyJ9]

Quality work, thank you 🙏🏼

[@WorldofAntiquity]

My pleasure!

[@RichardFletcher]

part 2 cleared it up for me, cheers subbed

[@Davidhjrick]

Just found you. Loving your work. More please. x

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thank you, and welcome!

[@dannytspence]

You're so good at this. Amazing, polite debunking of pseudo archeology coupled with a very interesting lesson in the archaeological method. Are you planning on debunking the new netflix Graham Hancock show " ancient apocalypse"?

[@crackheadbiden3273]

The guy that owns this channel is clueless.

[@eugenemartone7023]

I actually started to watch that ancient architect video, believing it to be a video about ancient architecture, and I have enormous respect for the fact that you managed to watch the whole thing. The worst thing is I get the impression that he doesn’t actually believe any of it himself.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

He has since changed his mind.

[@eugenemartone7023]

@@WorldofAntiquity thx for the update, I have avoided the channel since then so I wouldn’t know. Anyone willing toadmit they’re wrong deserves a second chance though.

[@NatashaRobinson412]

I really like your review of an opposing presentation. This subject is Very important to me for some unknown reason . In the past none of the explanations rang true, until yours . ThankYou for not being just another yt channel parroting others that seem to have a suspicious style of wording things and uses a triangular style of reasoning that tricks most unaware researchers - just like you pointed out that Enki was not represented by snakes ! The snake is shiny and cautious and stood for wisdom. The Truth is much less convoluted than the lie. 💜👱🏼‍♀️💜

[@WorldofAntiquity]

You're so right, Natasha! It is less convoluted. I'm glad you liked the video, and thank you for the kind words.

[@rossmyerw]

Dr. Miano, thank you for this enlightening video. I've been disturbed by this handbag question for some time and your effort here has resolved most of the mystery for me. Gobekli Tepe is still a mystery, it may well always be, but I understand there are some ongoing archaeological excavations at nearby similar sites that may provide more answers.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Metal0sopher]

@@WorldofAntiquity Hello Dr. Miano. I don't know if you'll ever read this comment but I don't think Ancient Architects is trying to imply that the aboriginals influenced the Sumerians. Instead he is insinuating that some ancient race of ALIENS, reptilian aliens most likely, influenced the aboriginals, the Sumerians, all cultures, I mean that's the Chariots of the Gods shtick, the Anunnaki were Ancient Aliens and all that. So it seems a bit moot to try to argue that there is no connection between ancient Australians and Sumerians and others because I'm pretty sure that's not his point anyway. Pretty much all these alternative history guys are all obsessed with aliens, and they are trying to create a link all the way to present showing how these "aliens" have ruled over us, and still are "as deep state reptilians". And most of their ideas are subliminally influenced by Hollywood films they saw as kids and have consciously forgotten like various episodes of OS Star Trek, Outer Limits, V, They Live, Stargate, etc. and are linking them to history by subconscious confirmation bias.

[@christopherbuss680]

The carvings in Gobekli Teppe, i think that is a good interpretation especially because the middle one has the wolf carving facing downwords just like one of the more popular pillars that is shown often, so that is a theory that does make sense. The first thing i thought when i saw them again was a kind of shovel or hand scoop, maybe tools for digging when they built the place. Not sure if they would carve that in stone, or if their tools even looked anything like that but its just the first thing that popped in my head.

[@kevinmijares824]

Love when ideas and theories are confroted by data and findings, thanks for creating this amazing video

[@daveblock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6HElWSuoNWWr7c he’s wrong

[@andreaarchaeology]

A video topic I'd love you to cover is to debunk the idea that ancient rock art from Australia shows depictions of aliens. I think there are other global examples, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. Thank you for your hard work!!!

[@gerardcote8391]

You should try to avoid the "debunker" label. People that debunk, are not concerned with proving something wrong, but excusing it away, or intentionally misrepresenting people's views via straw man. an example of this is people want to "debunk" the aliens built the pyramids, by claiming they say the pyramids are perfectly square, then disprove that by showing the dimensions are not a prefect square. No one buys this because the argument in not perfect square, but trapezoidal with the 4 edges pointing to the 4 directions of the compass, but since that is what the dimensions show, they have to misrepresent the opponents arguments.

[@celiabrickell2500]

Gerald Cote, What word would you suggest for Dr. Mieno use in place of debunk? He is carefully debunking pseudo archeology by explaining the impossibleity of there being a connection between the Australian aborigines and the Surmmarians. Real debunked don't make mistakes as you suggested. In your example both are not real archeologists!

[@planzed463]

Hi David, I stumbled across your content a couple of days ago, brilliant work btw, thank you for these - hope this finds you well! Can I ask, what do you make of Robert Sepehr & his work?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

I have heard his name before, but I haven't really investigated any of his stuff yet. I will check him out.

[@planzed463]

@@WorldofAntiquity great, thank you, would be interested to get your take on his findings & interpretations.

[@Katharina-rp7iq]

The problem with objects and art is always: even if 2 cultures have essentially nothing in common it can happen that some cultures in one region used a certain motive. Now, a small masterwork Art piece made of stone might travel a long way over the centuries. Being robbed, taken along on a migration, sold to one ruler and gifted to another. And then, one day, 1000 years later, an artist or ruler sees this artwork that might have traveled from Asia to Africa over those 1000 years even though the two cultures never had anything to do with each other. And the artist or ruler likes the shape, or a symbol, or the style, despite the fact that they have no idea what the object was for or what the symbol means. Or maybe 2 people come up with very similar designs based on something they saw in nature. There might be 5 ways a culture draws birds and one happens to be very similar to one of the 5 ways another culture draws birds. Having one single thing that's similar means very little.

[@amouramarie]

I admit, I really enjoy the ancient aliens/architects type videos, and find it enjoyable to try and puzzle out secret or lost meanings. I also enjoy more grounded and skeptical explanations, like yours, that, while deconstructing arguments, don't resort to heaping scorn upon anyone for considering out-there possibilities. After all, NOTHING can be more out there than the (assumed) reality of quantum mechanics, entangled particles and the process of probabilities becoming the reality we interact with! We need people making the most outrageous claims (the cat in the box is both alive and dead until it's opened), and we also need people answering those questions with mundane answers when mundane answers are available. :)

[@kingedwardtitus7624]

I thought they looked like cars in a traffic jam in LA. Learned some interesting things. Interesting mesolithic flint points are similar cross cultural intercontinental. I think simple cross cultural ancient correlations are sop for humans been around for a few years and climate changes tectonic shifts and astrological aspects kinda shared experiences. You made some good points. Thanks for your research and knowledge.

[@je-freenorman7787]

what type of climate changes? You mean 4 seasons?

[@aprinz5648]

I played this at a playback speed of 1.5 and it still took forever for him to make a point.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Yeah, this first major point starts at 1:54, so that would have taken you 90 seconds. Who has the patience for that??

[@aprinz5648]

@@WorldofAntiquity the first "major" point isn't made until around the 5 min mark.

[@krcmaine]

Thank you for your service. 🖖

[@manus.P118.8]

Why don't you ask the British Queen Elizabeth who ALWAYS meets the new Prime minister carrying ,,,,, A HAND BAG.. Google the pics....!!!!!!

[@kennethjames6114]

The royal family also travels around planting trees. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

[@mehmet_07fatih.32]

😄😄😄👍

[@jimmumford4444]

Not only do they have handbags, they also are wearing Rolexes.

[@greghansen38]

I have to say some of the Assyrian artwork is amazing -- the detail on the beaks, the sinewy forearms with the wristwatches, 3/4 views of snake heads on the vases...

[@robsellars9338]

Yes it's really unique isn't it? If you look at any of the 6 original civilizations ( I have a feeling there may be a 7th according to the myths of these same 6 cultures writings) mentioned by the professor, they are all unique and quite incredibly good!

[@celiabrickell2500]

How do you know that they are wristwatches? Just because they "look like" something doesn't mean that it is that thing. Don't fall into the rabbit hole of pseudo science.

[@christopherbuss680]

The snake diety, is i cant spell the name but is there a correlation between that and the two snakes coiled around a staff symbol we use in medicine today? I think we took it from greece or rome. Did they take that symbol from them possibly? That depiction you showed just looks very familiar.

[@johnruge1218]

The Medical symbol is correctly one snake and has to do with Aesclapius, the father of medicine born to Apollo and a human woman paramour that was killed by Diana (Artimis) as she was giving birth (Greek Myth). A snake guarded him till rescuers came.

[@recursr1892]

Google for „Caduceus“, and yes the doublesnake symbol can be traced back to sumerian culture, pretty old.

[@Mozkonauta]

The only positive thing about Ancient Architects are Dr Miano’s videos debunking them.

[@frosty6960]

20:45 this seems a bit far fetched. For humans to move around and not bring culture is just weird. And we did move around ... a lot! We commonly underestimate the abilities of people in ancient times. Are you familiar with Gabi Plums work?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Indeed, we did move around, and that is why there are so few pristine civilizations. No, I haven't heard of Gabi Plum. What has she written?

[@kartikeya5302]

@@WorldofAntiquity Frosty is probably refering to Gabi Plumm of Plumtree productions. A version of part 1 of a 3 part series she produced can (at the time of me writing this comment) be found on the youtube channel of Peter Marsh: Redheads. Part 1 of Skeletons in the Cupboard. A well made film, I found it interesting.

[@neemohseni]

I really like your videos because you’re actually realistic

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thanks. I try to be!

[@Balthazare69]

This is matt's old video, while he was under the influence of the "ancient astronauts", now he has completely changed his mind xD What's more, I think he is going to Egypt soon, that will be interesting to see. And it's even more interesting that im watching your tour of Egypt these days, you did great job xD

[@josefrietveld219]

Is there any reason to believe that some of the depicted „handbags“ represented regulated/normed weights used for trade and commerce as rumored on other history-channels? Thx in advance

[@lericherf6219]

You are taking half of the fun out of the ancient lost civilization and origin hypotheses. Dammit! Truly superior logic and rhetoric!! I’m actually learning.

[@davis4010]

Ancient Architect during the last few years seem to have quite improved his research, reasoning. Actually was quite surprised that this video was debunking his material :)

[@TheWonderwy]

Well executed argument, sir.

[@carolnorton2551]

I particularly like the "bucket" @ 16:00 with the fringe around the bottom, don't you think that is unlikely?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Yes, those are definitely bags. It's only the Assyrian ones that I said are buckets.

[@paulscholl1962]

As a Tradesman you could tell a journeyman when he came in with what he was carrying and years ago the suitcases were called turkeys they were really just a leather bag that resembled a turkey if you can imagine but the Tradesmen always had his personal tools now these carvings are obviously of Tradesmen carrying the tools or the weapons that they need to to ensure that proper completion ones that would come without bags were obviously beginners

[@andrewpotter4131]

It is good to hear your pushback on things we are seeing talked about these days about these ancient artifacts . I looked over here on your recommendation from seeing part one about handbags . You do provide valuable insights. I dont really agree with the water bucket theory . The Olmec 19 art , the handbag is too much like the Summarion depictions to just think coincidence , and while i respect your observation on the images at Tepi , i dont agree yet . I do value your observations and insights , we need all sides to cime to the truth. Keep doing good wirk

[@nickslayer4368]

Nice one! Gday from Australia 👍🏻

[@WorldofAntiquity]

G’day!

[@szilveszterforgo8776]

Thank you for sharing this

[@newman653]

Still waiting for your video on the Gosford glyphs in Australia !

[@americanwoman6246]

What about the olmecs?

[@onbedoeldekut1515]

To be honest, I've been a viewer of Matthew's channel or a good few years, and something that's impressed me greatly is his 'academic journey', and transition away from pseudoscience to the content provider he is today. I've watched a few 'pseudoscience' channels for a while, but only for the quality of images they provide, it's generally leagues higher quality than can be found elsewhere.

[@libertyblueskyes2564]

but what are the wrist watch bracelets? I hope you know.

[@zombie80580]

What do u think bout' wise up channel where he talks bout his theory of rebar and mud fossils??

[@WorldofAntiquity]

I am not familiar with that channel. I will give it a look.

[@johnsturgeon9995]

"Mud fossil" theories are garbage. You can see shapes of animals in the clouds, that isn't proof of dragons in the sky any more than mud fossils are proof of dragons in the ground. It's beyond ridiculous.

[@fedyjkhr]

How old is gobleki tepe?

[@przemog88]

Around 12,000 years old.

[@johnbowman476]

At 7:18 the video clearly depicts a bag not a bucket. The artist was excellent and by comparing other portions of the carving one can clearly tell its a flat container, not a bucket

[@WorldofAntiquity]

You missed Part 1.

[@travisbrantmeyer7849]

Did Berossos understand cuneiform? Also, does the Assyrian text mention what the bracelets are that the apkallu are wearing? I’m guessing they are just ornamental bracelets. Thank you for your time and attention and what you do.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

The texts do not identify the bracelets, as far as I know. As for Berossus, I am pretty sure that he could read cuneiform.

[@Tabookoomi]

could it be a computer case for a lap top for designing their cities plumbing and other projects. is there evidence of normal people carrying them who was not related to the anunaki?

[@Tabookoomi]

i also felt the snake in Sumerian represented medicine and thats where the connection come from.

[@Tabookoomi]

also could the tepe locations have been covered to preserve them between cycles?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

They didn't have laptops in those days.

[@Tabookoomi]

@@WorldofAntiquity would you like to field a few more questions? the Sumerians refer to gaga as Pluto and a moon of Tiamat. if this is true both would have a good chance of nitrogen atmospheres. we just found out via voyager this is true. do you think this is a coincidence considering that we just discovered Pluto rather recent?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@Tabookoomi The Sumerians didn't know about Pluto.

[@tree_relics]

What this has inspired in my desire is a more comprehensive cross cultural comparison of what common inventions the world over have been used to symbolize in art: a comparison of the similarities, differences and connections or exclusive originations of symbols, like the swastika, cross in a circle, clubs, spears, bows, and animal symbols. I think this would be an really good video topic. Also noticed than none of the North American city building cultures were considered pristine. Is there not enough, or evidence known of contact from outside the mississippian culture or pueblo culture to consider them pristine?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

I think simply because they come so late in history. But I don't know enough about them to say for sure.

[@chrishusoen]

Thank you for the facts.. I'll make my own interpretation.. i still give u a thumbs up.. the medicine man thinks differently and it's so important enough to put into a rock. They can pass down a handbag with a story.. but the patterns of life are there .. (3) handbags in stone all the same.. on top of a Pilar with astrological signs..

[@yanikkunitsin1466]

12:10 "same iconology"? Confusing iconology with iconography speaks volumes on amateurishness of the whole undertaking

[@penquinweb]

Why always in the left hand?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Because they have something in their right hand they are more active with.

[@penquinweb]

@@WorldofAntiquity Always?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@penquinweb I took another look, and it seems to be in their left hand only when they are facing right. When they are facing left, it is usually in their right hand. So it seems to have more to do with artistic reasons.

[@penquinweb]

@@WorldofAntiquity thanks for spending time on this. You have access to more material and I take your view. I've been curious about this small point and never seen the bucket in the right-hand irrespective of which way they face. I'll dig deeper. Best wishes for the New year.

[@energysifu]

Love your presentation. If this guy from ancient arquitects give this lecture to a group of regular people will surely found a lot of followers. History is a topic that you don’t use for daily work. This ancient civilizations myth is becoming more of a religious cult where these guys are their pastors or ministers. They keep coming back with the same set of lies only to be debunked again. Thanks professor for an excellent work.

[@carriekelly4186]

True. good point. That part creeps me out.

[@BonifiedWingnut]

Looking at the Gobekli Tepe pillar the V and inverted V shaped lines above and below the "bags" are blocked by the objects in the opening between the handle and the "bag". So whatever they are that area is opaque. Where as if it were just a rope the lines would continue to be seen in that area.

[@IolandaAdinolfi]

Thank you, doctor! 🙏

[@WorldofAntiquity]

My pleasure!

[@DamienAthope]

Wonderful video. And I truly appreciate your debunking unreasonable claims. I also enjoyed your explaining the process of how to critically think about what archaeology evidence means and what makes a convincing connection to other archaeology evidence. You rock. Thanks.🤗🤘

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thanks, Damien!

[@imafgc]

Its interesting I recently found that channel and they did a video on the bags and in it he mentions how he was wrong in the past and people corrected him. Its funny now seeing that correction

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Yes, he changed his mind about it. We are on friendly terms.

[@alistairreid965]

Thank you Dr Miano for your insightful and interesting videos. They are a perfect shot of realism and antidote to the wishful fantasies being pushed by tv channels looking for views. You have reignited my interest in ancient history and allowed me to explain these things to my children and explain why history is important. Thank you for your content.

[@pola2090]

13:30 could this be evidence for the Sumerians having strong influence even in places far off like Australia?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

As the video showed, there are too many differences between the two forms of art for them to be connected. And the Sumerians did not travel the ocean.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

The funny thing is that in ~1980 a fossilised beer can was discovered by Professor John Fraser on a trackway at Lake Mungo in NSW. Stratigraphy and radiocarbon dating put the age of this can at somewhere between 60ka - 100ka. The tracks, although a little unsteady, were headed to the North West. I propose that these mysterious 'buckets' and 'bags' are, in fact, beer cans. They did indeed originate in Australia. And hence, civilisation, impossible without beer, spread from ancient Australia to the rest of the world.

[@ChantLightAngel]

There is an old joke that a Christian comedian once said on tour which I find comical. He said, "Women carry purses. Guys wear SHOULDER BAGS." But I find the carving humorous because the ancient alien "king" was carrying the bag in his hand like a woman's purse. LMAO. The bag could be symbolic for anything. The "experts" could be guessing what the dude's bag is for until the cows come home. LMAO. Could be a medicine bag as far as we know? LMAO. Maybe it is a bucket he is carrying, to give the dude the benefit of the doubt. LMAO.

[@letyvasquez2025]

Pillar 43 depicts the scenery of the mound The animals scavenging and the pillars being quarried and positioned The three box symbols show the holes used to lever out the blocks from a nearby quarry The I and H carvings below them, to the right, show a pillar standing and the other flat on the ground. The wavy lines show the grass surrounding the quarry and the mound. The smaller box squares are a pathway on the mound. The circular object below the mound could be the moon or sun, unless it is an unfinshed carving.

[@LorenaAltamiranonika]

What is the meaning of the bracelets pictured in these stones. They are related just to "gods" like the "handbags"?. Thank you for your videos. They are amazing!~

[@WorldofAntiquity]

The lotus flower depicted on the bracelet may symbolize immortal life. More info here: www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/9/9/256/htm

[@Namrevlis1938]

So you have an explanation of the "handbags" in Gobleki Tepe but how do you explain the absolutely identical images in at least 20 widely diverse places in the world?😮

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Why are you asking a question that is answered in detail in the video?

[@donbarile8916]

"Bro Bags". contents: half eaten Milky Way bar, comb with missing teeth, one lambskin prophyllactic, ticket stub from Metallica concert, Jenny's phone number inscribed on clay tablet.

[@janeaparis]

fUNNY!

[@vgovger4373]

The bags are abstract representatives of valuables. Otherwise it is difficult to carve gold or diamonds in stone.

[@r.e.bonner9874]

The 3 handbags are visual tribute to the Anunnaki and are symbols of the three types of knowledge and expertise which were given to humans to encourage progress and civilization. The first bag represents agriculture and plant farming. The second bag represents animal domestication from birds to horses. The third bag represents human culture and civilization. This third bag of knowledge was essential for humans as it taught men that cooperation was the only way to create sustainable human progress. The third bag was the blueprint for human culture as they were shown how to make shelters, markets, religion, laws, health practices and many more teachings for human progress especially cooperation. I don’t believe Göbekli Tepe was buried by its residents but by adversaries who wanted to hide their social progress and steel their technology. The history of humans suggests this is most likely what occurred.

[@russellmillar7132]

If you say so. Seems funny, though, that if the people that built Gobekli Tepe had all the knowledge you claim they did, why is there no evidence advanced technology, or other evidence of the knowledge of agriculture, domestication of animals, the use of metals, a system of writing, or even how to make pottery? And how do you connect the Anunnaki from Akkadian mythology c. 2250 BCE with this structure from the prepottery neolithic age of around 7000 years earlier?

[@JonnoPlays]

If they were bags this still wouldn't be an accurate comment. But they aren't bags... 🛍

[@jillatherton4660]

TY David.

[@motownbiker92]

My hypothesis on the subject is this. The so called handbag in my opinion likely represents a vessel that contained a blessing of some kind in liquid form while the pinecone is what was used to apply the blessing to the object or people. Just as it shows the Anunnaki god's applying it to the tree of Life I presume, a similar instrument today would be the pope and clergy using a aspergillum to bless their congregation and holy objects.

[@thetruthseeker9407]

An interesting video, maybe in your next one you can explain how the egyptians left drill holes in the rocks they cut up for there temples. or maybe how the temples in india have been constructed with pillars turned on lathes.?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

You're interested in ancient construction techniques? I will definitely keep that in mind for a future video!

[@normdeeploom5945]

The truth seeker Making Egyptian Drill Holes:lost ancient high technology by the Scientists Against Myths channel. They replicate earlier experiments and studies. Just a copper tube with abrasive sands to drill a core into granite. They even replicate the grooves and tapering from ancient Egyptian core samples. In Pliny Natural History he mentions the use of lathes turning stone for building columns. The lathes balanced so that a child could turn the stone with a single hand.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Here is an interesting study on ancient drilling. www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/ancient-egyptian-stone-drilling/

[@russellmillar7132]

@@WorldofAntiquity I finally read through this paper. Thanks for posting the link. I have watched all of the demonstrations done by SAM and had most of my reservations put to rest. This publication from 1983 shows that the information about the likely methods used during the Old Kingdom has been around for decades. This is not a paper that any of the alt-history sites have recommended...go figure!

[@carriekelly4186]

Yes he's done:it's myths of lost ancient high technology...debunked...very good😊

[@kallebengtzon5240]

If the handbags looks like any type of bag they look like backpacks laying on the ground. Not anything you would carry in the handle at that time would have that shape since it would be unstable. After some industralisation unsymetric bags can occur for oddly shaped objekts where the handles are centred over the center of mass. But that cannot have been common back then.

[@dazuk1969]

Matt at ancient archeologists is a geologist...so he does have credibility that merits listening to him. With that in mind i am really pleased you had some dialogue with him. Imho, he jumps around to much on his theories. They literally change from one week to the next which gets very confusing. In regards to the bags/buckets, i am not sure what they mean but i think we have to tread carefully when we find stuff that looks similar in different parts of the world. It does not imply a connection...more a desire find one. One thing i do know David...it WASN'T ALIENS 😉....peace to ya.

[@russellmillar7132]

Matt has, surprisingly, become a voice of sanity and real evidence-based exploration. I was impressed by the the first video of his I watched wherein he reviewed papers written by Helmut Trebusch, an old school archaeologist and geologist. This fellow did research on the building methods of the ancient Andean civilizations and developed some solid theories. Matt boldly presented these findings in a video titled: " this is how the walls of Sacsayhuaman were built". As I recall he took a lot of flack in the comments from rabid lost ancient civilization devotees for buying into "academia" and for the cadence of his voice(?). I decided I would continue to watch his work and have not regretted it.

[@victor-manuelibanez9993]

I believe the 'bags' in Gobelki tepe are actual depiction of houses, with curved roofs representing the community around the temples.

[@PlomoorPlata]

The title should be something like "disputing someone else's claims from another video, regarding the 'handbags'"

[@danielfallu5716]

Awesome video. One note: it’s pronounced “cat-ion” (a positively charged ion) in “cation ratio dating”

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Oh! Thanks for the correction.