Why Swimming Tech Suits Are BANNED

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If you tuned into the 2008 Beijing Olympics, you got to watch some of the fastest swimming the world has ever seen at one meet! Maybe too fast....The tech suits that those Olympians were wearing were banned from the sport a year later!
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@SwimDudeSwim
@SwimDudeSwim Жыл бұрын
I’m personally for bringing back the full body tech suits, under the condition that they be supplied to the athletes competing at the international level. Sport can keep up with science as long as the playing field is evened.
@BG-id2cv
@BG-id2cv Жыл бұрын
@@djdoc06 Spot on.
@tamjacky4596
@tamjacky4596 Жыл бұрын
But also, for the poorer countries like in Africa, there are no such resources that building pools and hire experienced coach. Sports are expensive, no matter with or without the swimsuit.
@tamjacky4596
@tamjacky4596 Жыл бұрын
@@djdoc06 actually the price of kneeskins and jammers are more expensive than those banned suits. The price of suit won’t drop because of the extra fabric. The price of those pro suit so high is the technology behind and the demand is low compared to the mass market. And the textile Arena X-Glide and Jaked J01 used is just polyurethane, which is a common textile in manufacturing clothes and the cost is very low. If FINA didn’t banned the polyurethane and full body suits and the suit is so easy to produce, there will be more corporate producing these kind of suits, which can make the price of suit cheaper. At that moment, it won’t be a barrier or a problem. Runners are using expensive carbon fibre running shoes and cyclist are using ten thousand dollars bike for competition, why there are no such complaint on that? What FINA should do is to make those suit accessible to all athletes instead of limiting what suit can the swimmers wear!
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr Жыл бұрын
​@@tamjacky4596Right? I'm Calgarian so the Jamaican bobsled team comes to mind: the body suits are the least of the expense athletes need to cover!
@ryanskogg5211
@ryanskogg5211 Жыл бұрын
The thing that aggravated me was that the super suits were not an issue until Speedo didn't have the fastest suit anymore. All the big Speedo names couldn't participate with the faster suit. NOW, all of a sudden, these suits are unfair.
@seecha8970
@seecha8970 Ай бұрын
Well the games that the suits were introduced saw an uncanny amount of WRs fall. At the end of the day, it's gotta remain the athlete's skills and not the hardware.
@mg4361
@mg4361 Жыл бұрын
So, if I got this right, Michael Phelps didn't mind supersuits as long as his was the technically most advanced. Then when other people's sponsors came up with even better stuff, he became bitterly opposed?
@MadiSwims8
@MadiSwims8 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed this 😂
@cherrywhine
@cherrywhine Жыл бұрын
lmfao 💀
@joshfriedel5999
@joshfriedel5999 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what happened in 2009. But the problem didn't really rely just on Michael Phelps...he was stuck with Speedo and its suit (when he knew "Jaked" and "Arena" were of higher quality). The problem is not Michael...the problem relies on the corporations. Why not allow all international swimmers wear the "best" suit (or whatever they think is best for them) and not have the swimmers feel as if they are being held back by a corporation...
@mg4361
@mg4361 Жыл бұрын
@@joshfriedel5999 I fully agree. I only find it funny how Michael only started to notice this problem once the corporations with the best technology weren't the ones sponsoring him.
@GGmanlife
@GGmanlife Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but I do think his response was pretty badass. And if that’s really the case, then surely he would have chosen the better suit
Жыл бұрын
-24% less drag?! Damnnn!!! That’s some serious R&D result there!
@jackdavinci
@jackdavinci Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to understand why the original Olympics were performed in the nude
@southsidecompton9668
@southsidecompton9668 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@6393dude
@6393dude 2 ай бұрын
Lets bring it back!
@vendace7682
@vendace7682 Жыл бұрын
I think that the rules regarding suits should be changed. In my opinion in 2009 the biggest problems were that the suits were expensive and that the arena xglide was not for sale, it was only available for arena sponsored athletes. However, the suits today are also really expensive and even the jammers make such a difference that you are basicly forced to buy one. It feels rediculous to pay up to 350€ for the best jammers. At least in the bodysuit era you got something that was worth your money, and if you don’t count the polyurethane suits in 2009, the earlier bodysuits might have been cheaper than the suits we buy today. If the 2009 suits will not return I would at least wish to see that the rules were the same for men and women. I just can’t think of any reason why women can wear kneeskin covering almost full body when men are stuck with the jammers. In open water men and women have the same suits so why not also in the pool.
@mikeoath9541
@mikeoath9541 Жыл бұрын
That's actually really interesting why the hell men are not allowed to have full suits when women can. If gymnastics can say no to leotards then why can't men also do the same? I'd love to see major decreases in time for that.
@mad3l3na
@mad3l3na Жыл бұрын
Women kind of need to cover the rest of their bodies too for reasons…however, why it goes down to the knee is quite interesting.
@annearly3200
@annearly3200 Жыл бұрын
In other sports women are forced to wear revealing uniforms, Volleyball, Handball
@aaanawaleh
@aaanawaleh Жыл бұрын
@@annearly3200 Yes its quite sad and degrading.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there was a rule after 2016 that stated for both Olympics and Track and a little later Field the Shoes/Spikes made for runners/field athletes must be made available 1 month before the competitions. I feel that a few runners Nike sponsored like Galen Rup almost got 2nd place due to Nike runners having tech shoes that nobody else could buy and was not an elite Nike sponsored runner getting them. I still feel that Galen Rupp would have got second place in the Marathon because of training but not almost 2nd place.
@vickymiller8634
@vickymiller8634 Жыл бұрын
It is hard enough for athletes from small countries to compete at the olympic level without having to purchase an expensive super suit!!
@alexbalaci6338
@alexbalaci6338 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays this is kinda bs, because a tech suit is at most 400 dollars for men or 500 for women, and there is no olympic athlete that cannot get themselves sponsored and sent a suit for free
@colin7406
@colin7406 Жыл бұрын
would be nice if they had that same attitude for triathalon
@l4kr
@l4kr Жыл бұрын
@@alexbalaci6338 If you're doing any sport at a top level then that price is nothing.
@mikeoath9541
@mikeoath9541 Жыл бұрын
@@l4kr True, you have sports like archery (easily 3k for bow and attachments), rifle in shooting (costs up to 10k USD+ammunition costs 10 cents per bullet if you buy in bulk shooting range prices. Cycling (10k if you want to stay competitive) then you have pentathlon you need fencing rapier, rifle, swimsuit. In Winter Olympics there's the bobsled costing 50k-100k but that's for teams and generally government would provide it. Overall most expensive though is equestrianism. Horses can go up to any amount and you have to spend for food, care, farrier, vets, supplements/meds, equipment, shipment to events. Fuck now that i think about it this sport can probably cost you up to 250k just to get in and compete around the year.
@charlieromeu5748
@charlieromeu5748 Жыл бұрын
Yes, so lets stop advancing technology for the sake of poor people participating
@xchemicalXladybugx
@xchemicalXladybugx Жыл бұрын
With or without supersuits, every major competition for every sport should have athletes in the same suits/uniforms (minus colors) and they should be provided by the committee. Really all dress codes should be reformed. If women have swimsuits over their chests then men should too. Female athletes in volleyball, gymnastics, track, long jumpers and more have to wear extremely revealing uniforms that they are constantly adjusting and get points deducted for underwear/bra straps showing. They should just wear the same thing the men wear.
@ares4435
@ares4435 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@l4kr
@l4kr Жыл бұрын
women should wear bikinis tbh
@rikimaru6811
@rikimaru6811 Жыл бұрын
@@l4kr man of taste
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 ай бұрын
This is the dumbest thing I've read on the internet. No...men and women should not wear the same clothes. Men and women are different.
@jrg305
@jrg305 Жыл бұрын
I swam for 9 years ending in 2004. Fastskins where new then. The fact they are now banned is amazing.
@Sam-Icy
@Sam-Icy Жыл бұрын
I was a freshman swimmer in highschool during 2008-2009 and I've never heard about the suits. I was just inspired since swimming was so popular. Its amazing that I've only just heard about this lol.
@mostlysane510
@mostlysane510 Жыл бұрын
We're the same age, yea crazy that you didnt! At my school there were a few of the varsity guys that would wear them - my older brother even shared a suit with a guy that had one at one meet (they wore speedos underneath). It was a crazy time man, you'd look at the heat sheets and some guys would have HUGE PRs from those suits + taper. I wasn't good enough to justify wearing or buying one my freshman year though by my senior year I was dropping good times - though I agree with the ban 100% it would've been interesting to see how it feels to swim in one.
@bjesplin
@bjesplin Жыл бұрын
If I was in charge of the rules of international swim competition I would require the mist minimal swimwear. Men would wear briefs and women minimal one piece suits. The cut and fabric of each suit would have to be the same. Swim competition should be a competition of swimmers not a competition of swimsuit manufacturers. However I’d guess that such rules would likely cause a loss of interest in suit manufacturers sponsoring swimmers.
@yijuntey
@yijuntey Жыл бұрын
I think the current rules are pretty fair through, those ankle length suits were quite ridiculous back then but after the ban it seems alright now. I mean most of those suits are commercially available too (although very expensive). But it would be like how pro cyclists would always have the best top-end bikes that would allow them to cut through the wind and ride faster than what a normal city-bike would allow us to. It doesn't really mean that they are cheating, I mean those elite swimmers that could break the wr with the supersuits, can still demolish any regular swimmers in their training briefs, but the tech suits just allow them to go even further and go beyond what the fabric suits would limit them to. Just my opinion.
@yijuntey
@yijuntey Жыл бұрын
Also, as someone who loves swimming both competing and watching it, I think the tech suits look super sick and makes the sport look a lot more professional than if people competed in briefs and fabric suits haha
@joshfriedel5999
@joshfriedel5999 Жыл бұрын
Highly disagree with this. The swimsuit manufacturers goal should be how far can we take our product into helping all humans in their specified goals (...which obviously all manufacturing companies should be doing lol). The problem you are not addressing is the greed from these corporations, considering they would file lawsuits against other competitors if they didn't wear their product. At an elite level, they should all be allowed to wear any product, considering if all competitors wore the same product....it would be a fair playing field.
@tamjacky4596
@tamjacky4596 Жыл бұрын
@@joshfriedel5999 so true
@l4kr
@l4kr Жыл бұрын
women should wear bikinis tbh
@psidot
@psidot 6 ай бұрын
If everyone is wearing them, what difference does it make? Why not ban swimming googles, or swim caps? Or swimming pools with splash-less sides?
@wesw7241
@wesw7241 Жыл бұрын
Phelps sometimes wore normal suit. When he broke the 200m butterfly world record at 2009 world championships, he just wore a general half-bottom suit.
@joshfriedel5999
@joshfriedel5999 Жыл бұрын
He had on the legskin, which went down to the ankle.
@wesw7241
@wesw7241 Жыл бұрын
@@joshfriedel5999 No. He wore normal suit. There are videos of that race on youtube.
@richardhudson4649
@richardhudson4649 Жыл бұрын
Biedermann's 200m WR in the supersuit is more or less untouchable for another generation. He had a perfect day in a perfect suit, and even Phelps was a full second off the WR. I feel like the swim suit tech is kinda like carbon fibre plate running shoe technology. Allow it, but put hard limits on how much of the body they can cover, how much stack the shoe can have etc. No matter where you draw the line, someone will think you are drawing it in the wrong place, but in both cases it seems about right as it stands right now.
@allydea
@allydea Жыл бұрын
I'm betting on Popovici this year or the next. He's dropping time in the 200 quite steadily.
@matthiaskritzinger5509
@matthiaskritzinger5509 Жыл бұрын
Popovici will be the one - probably. But for now its untouchable.
@smurfyday
@smurfyday Жыл бұрын
This is true of most sports. Records are broken solely because better equipment, like in cycling.
@andro_id
@andro_id Жыл бұрын
And what about mountain skiing and other disciplinces depending on equipment? This is all about competiotion between brands and technoligies too.
@6l816
@6l816 Жыл бұрын
This issue is interesting because it makes us think what exact value we see (or don't see) in sports. My take is stuffs like victory or record are just some tangible proxy to capture something deeper yet intangible; and if we forget about that, we can end up missing the point
@yoyocherio
@yoyocherio Жыл бұрын
7:55 this is just total bullshit, no “out of shape” swimmer could put on one of these suits and swim like a “superhero”, this sounds like it’s coming from someone who has never swam or competed at any mid to high level in any sport.
@enesjei
@enesjei Жыл бұрын
Even I who don't even compete find it hard to believe that out of shape person can beat top athletes just because of over engineered "suits".
@youweitan4304
@youweitan4304 Жыл бұрын
Any rules against the use of a lifejacket?
@person5894
@person5894 Жыл бұрын
Last weekend I was watching the girls 50 free final at a Christmas meet and off the start the girl in lane 2’s suit broke 😬
@LAK_770
@LAK_770 Жыл бұрын
It’s 100% about drag reduction and buoyancy. All the stuff about muscle activation and blood flow is marketing BS. That’s just not how muscles work
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 Жыл бұрын
On a related issue is body hair. It might cause added turbulence; on the other hand they might promote laminar flow.
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
That feeling though when you first get in the water after you shaved 😮. Amazing.
@LoyaFrostwind
@LoyaFrostwind Жыл бұрын
If every athlete wore the exact same brand and style of suit, wouldn't the advantage be negated?
@myswimpro
@myswimpro Жыл бұрын
It could be! But is it too much of an advantage over past record breakers? And are these super suits really accessible to every athlete? Something to think about! :)
@tamjacky4596
@tamjacky4596 Жыл бұрын
@@myswimpro then that is the rules that fina really need to solve, they can set up rules that manufacturers cannot personalise the suit, they can also regulate them to be accessible to the public.
@LOSTmyHOST
@LOSTmyHOST Жыл бұрын
The sport is about a human capacity to be fast not a suit, if they allow this in the future the sport will be about the suit not the person Imo.
@LoyaFrostwind
@LoyaFrostwind Жыл бұрын
@@LOSTmyHOST but gymnastics and other sports have also evolved with technology. Balls are made of different materials now. The gym spring floors, vaulting springboards and other equipment have evolved as well. We never question how they help the athletes perform better, as long as it's the same for everyone, and no one has an unfair advantage.
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
@@LoyaFrostwind the problem is that most of those sports where improvements have been made are solely competition between the athletes at the event. Swimming is time based so it makes breaking a world record easier which implies you are the fastest swimmer ever in that event. Which wouldn’t be certain as past swimmers may have gone faster with the new technology. If swimming wasn’t time based than it wouldn’t really be an issue.
@addy7768
@addy7768 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought myself a tech suit and it has really helped improve my times, yes they do help you cut time with the materials and stuff but I also think it’s a matter of how you think. If you think it will help you cut your time not only will you have the help of the material but I do think you will try harder for that time without realizing it because of the tech suit.
@HJohn-xn9ub
@HJohn-xn9ub Жыл бұрын
So, Aleksandr Popov was right. He didn’t like the suits, considered them cheating, and advocated for “speedo” briefs only. (Jammers are just a lesser form of cheating.)
@corinneduc7304
@corinneduc7304 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the advantages of the tight women's full body suits really outweigh the disadvantages, generally speaking. The gliding feeling is great - but my experience is that performance decreases rapidly in a tight suit because I can't breathe optimally (and the arm movement also seems restricted; especially in butterfly >50m :-(
@ObviousPcScams
@ObviousPcScams Жыл бұрын
If that is the case then you will probably need to either get a new one or swim with the one you have until it loosens to fit you better
@wa6485
@wa6485 Жыл бұрын
Cant really say that it s absolutely cheating like doping boost. It doesnot affect and alter swimmer original stats majorly like dope...still the swimmer gotta work hard in the water race and the suit doesnt swim for itself and doesnot have additional propellant or booster. It ' s called knowledge..more like aqua dynamics study
@randomdigress
@randomdigress Жыл бұрын
I have said it in other sports, and I will say it here again, there needs a totally unhinged category, as long as it is not against the law all things should be allowed, it will be interesting how far man and technology can marry to elevate performance to new heights
@lucaskincanyon7393
@lucaskincanyon7393 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say it was 2008 that done it in. It was probably 2009 when literally every record except 400IM got broken.
@shem44
@shem44 Жыл бұрын
Why dont they also ban cycling suit since that also reduce drag?
@roberteagles4837
@roberteagles4837 Жыл бұрын
Phelps beating Cavic in 2009 was such a flex
@CharlieR9997
@CharlieR9997 Жыл бұрын
Honey!!! Where's my super suit!!!!??
@samuelforsyth6374
@samuelforsyth6374 Жыл бұрын
so can you just use silver nano-spike spray before the race over your whole body except hands and feet? it's hydrophobic
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
You probably wouldn’t want it on your hands and feet as that is where you actually want drag. You could maybe do it on the top of your hands and forearms I guess.
@Emma__Smith
@Emma__Smith Жыл бұрын
When you put on a LZR, you really can feel the difference. But damn...I do not miss all the red lines it would put on my body.
@mostlysane510
@mostlysane510 Жыл бұрын
Very late to this video. I was in early high school when they got banned. It definitely created an uneven playing field, especially for those kids who couldn't afford it. I've seen kids drop 5-6 seconds in a 100 for instance, maybe 2-3 seconds in the 50 free. I may be wrong here as this is second hand knowledge, but I was told some would even wear a buoyancy tech suit beneath a speed tech suit, basically just flying through the water. When it came down to the state competition, unfortunately a lot of kids who couldn't afford it that otherwise would have made it and placed, were beaten out. Personally I disagree with the top comment, even though I do admire the fairness they had it mind. It should be about how fast the human body is capable of swimming, I think the suits we have now are fast enough.
@TheChupacabras69
@TheChupacabras69 Жыл бұрын
What I most admire about swimming is how few equipment is needed. Only googles, a swimsuit and a swimming cup. Swimming competitions are not build around technology as formula one racing and It is nice that supersuits were banned.
@6l816
@6l816 Жыл бұрын
Indeed but I wonder why pool is so cheap in the first place. The pool in my neighborhood (8x25m) costs 350JPY for 2 hours but I always wonder how they can afford the water and the heat.
@dannick6076
@dannick6076 Жыл бұрын
@@6l816 idk where you live but in the netherlands pools are partly funded by the government
@mostlysane510
@mostlysane510 Жыл бұрын
Haha when I was a little kid it did add up in $, only because I kept losing my goggles 😅. Started wearing them around my neck so I wouldn't lose them lol.
@Aaron-zk6jn
@Aaron-zk6jn 5 ай бұрын
the cost is actually higher with slower suits now lol
@robohippy
@robohippy Жыл бұрын
The wonders of modern technology! I guess it does have its place in competition, probably more so for women than men. Women generally have higher body fat content than men, to the point that when they push off the wall or dive in, you see their legs 'ripple' from passing through the water. The 'compression' part of the suits help eliminate that extra drag. Also, women's bodies are more 3 dimensional than men. For me, it wouldn't make enough of a difference to be worth it. I would encourage the technology, just out of curiosity.
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it always shocks me when a 5 foot 7 girl has bigger thighs than Caeleb Dressel lol.
@yushayankiyant0
@yushayankiyant0 Жыл бұрын
Bro i should buy this suit for my kabupaten cup in Indonesia 💀
@Alex.8081
@Alex.8081 8 ай бұрын
I don't see any difference between someone purchasing high-quality Pro Golf Clubs that people use for their games... It definitely plays better than the average-priced Golf clubs! They are made better and use special materials on it! Even the feeling is different too! I don't know nothing about swimming may that's why, LOL
@Secret0zv
@Secret0zv Жыл бұрын
I feel like a clothing restriction in sports in kinda stupid, if certain clothes are idea for the sport, then those clothes should be warn, simple as that.
@Doodahdoodles
@Doodahdoodles Жыл бұрын
4.23 that shot is insane. How can someone be so quick…?
@tadesubaru1383
@tadesubaru1383 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they end up banning a lot of gear from the olympics (or competitive sports in general) because "they make you too good". isnt that??? the point????. They don't start banning shoes from running competitions and making runners run barefoot, arent the shoes making them run faster because they're protected from the floor? You'd guess people want athletes to actually give their best, and having gear that helps them achieve that (without straight up cheating, of course) is what gets them there. Not even speaking of all the techniques or approaches that have been banned because they're hard to do or could be potentially dangerous, yet have caused people to get world records and are definitely more effective than what is allowed.... That's 100% human skill, no gear involved. Yet they still get banned. Something smells rotten in Denmark
@idk-kx8nx
@idk-kx8nx Жыл бұрын
michael phelps seems real goofy here
@q9r8s7t6u5v4w3x2y1z0
@q9r8s7t6u5v4w3x2y1z0 Жыл бұрын
12:29 for the 400 metres individual medley, it has just been beaten
@MrSanemon
@MrSanemon Жыл бұрын
If anyone can do it then why is it cheating? People where swim caps, cut their hair and shave/wax their bodies, what's the difference with something heavily engineered to improve performance?
@enesjei
@enesjei Жыл бұрын
But many sport WR were broken partly because the "gear" factor.... like in racing, cycling, heck even badminton. I don't see why tech suit should be banned. I think every athlete should wear tech suits for competition. There's no way out of shape ordinary person with tech suit would beat record holder athletes with "traditional" swimming briefs. We just don't have the lung capacity, stamina, and power to beat any top athletes with just an over engineered clothes.
@hamburger9004
@hamburger9004 Жыл бұрын
I actually know someone in high school that got a 20:85 in the 50 meter freestyle
@NicolasMorus
@NicolasMorus Жыл бұрын
That's cap, unless you're talking about 50 yards
@ltdswimmer
@ltdswimmer Жыл бұрын
An insightful take on this subject.
@annepalmans2187
@annepalmans2187 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the two articles/journals?
@charlieromeu5748
@charlieromeu5748 Жыл бұрын
How much?
@fabianluethi03
@fabianluethi03 Жыл бұрын
3:01 Does anyone know the song in the background?
@erode688
@erode688 Жыл бұрын
ok well now i know why basically everyone had one of these when i went to nationals
@porterphillips3976
@porterphillips3976 Жыл бұрын
12:35 his record was recently broken by a sophmore from North Texas HS
@CDSXCalibur
@CDSXCalibur Ай бұрын
I need one of those suits
@Capt-Intrepid
@Capt-Intrepid 2 ай бұрын
One Sentence Summary vs 15 minute video: Neoprene "Super Suits" add buoyancy and therefore less water drag and more speed.
@gautamchilukuri6529
@gautamchilukuri6529 Жыл бұрын
there should be a competition among suped up athletes using different brands of custom suits......just like F1 where top teams design their own cars
@popstarprincess123
@popstarprincess123 8 ай бұрын
Where can I get one?
@adorablegodzilla5628
@adorablegodzilla5628 Жыл бұрын
Wish I could look as good as Dressel "out of shape". LOL
@denvergilmer2924
@denvergilmer2924 Жыл бұрын
i understand for highschool and lower because of how expensive they are and how it gives the rich an advantage. but imagine the other uses, this advancement in technology could have implications outside of the swimming pool and for rich olympians, its cool to see these records broken.
@geroutathat
@geroutathat Жыл бұрын
Did they remove the world records broken while wearing these suits if any still stand?
@myswimpro
@myswimpro Жыл бұрын
Nope! Records from 2008 and 2009, including Michael Phelps' 400 IM world record from the Olympic Games, still stand.
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
Most of the supersuit records (2009) weren’t broke till about 2 or 3 years ago. The 200 im is still up there and no one is even close to it now. Fastest times last year were over a second off. Considering how much the sport has evolved in terms of technique and training in those 10 years, it just goes to show how crazy those records were and why the suits were definitely unfair.
@Hybridswimmer
@Hybridswimmer Жыл бұрын
@@macicoinc9363 200 IM WR was set in 2011 by Ryan Lochte and that was in a textile jammer not a super suit
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
@@Hybridswimmer Ope, you're right. I should have known that too, I watched video of the race not to long ago, my bad.
@Hybridswimmer
@Hybridswimmer Жыл бұрын
@@macicoinc9363 You are probably thinking of the 200 Free record by Biedermann
@justyyohan9423
@justyyohan9423 Жыл бұрын
how is this any different to back in the days people wearing goggles and swimming caps. sport goes hand in hand with technology and science. We apply science to our trainings, to our nutrition, to our recovery, to our performace. sport is never fair, no one trains exactly the same, no one has the exact same body, no one has the exact perfect technique.
@zhozan13
@zhozan13 Жыл бұрын
The caps and googles protect the eyes and hair from chlorine damage.
@LoyaFrostwind
@LoyaFrostwind Жыл бұрын
Why would a zipper be an advantage? Doesn't it create drag?
@bernardplanko6780
@bernardplanko6780 Жыл бұрын
with a zipper, you can use a suit that is very small and tight, the zipper allows you to put a such suit on
@acm0045
@acm0045 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why there’s a men’s suit and a woman’s suit. I think that there should be two suits and both men and women should choose which they want to wear. It sounds funny, but I’m sure women won’t choose the shorts, but they should have the option (in my world of two suits) equal to the men.
@taromilkteawithlycheejelly
@taromilkteawithlycheejelly Жыл бұрын
I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY THEY WORE FULL BODY SUITS BACK THEN
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 Жыл бұрын
Bring them back and standardise them.
@JS-mk8lt
@JS-mk8lt Жыл бұрын
FINA seems out of step with regard to advances in their sport compared to other sports. Consider track. The material of the track itself is no longer 'cinder'. The racing shoes runners wear have 'cleats' that grab the track optimally. Pole vaulters no longer jump with bamboo poles. Skiing? The materials that skis are made of are no longer wood with metal edges screwed in. The shape of the skis vary to optimize performance for each event. The boots are no longer leather and the cloth laces are a distant memory. Their racing suits are probably similar to the tech suits FINA banned for swimming. These - and other - innovations all enable athletes to improve their performance. Best performance on a level playing field is the objective, right? Altius, citius, fortior. (Higher, faster, stronger.) As long as all competitors have access to the latest technology - it is still the case that the swimmer is the engine and the faster one will win; the tech suit is just the wrapping. There was a time that swim suits in competitions were made of wool and, for men, covering them from just above the knee, Weissmuller
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu
@DoggosAndJiuJitsu Жыл бұрын
Interesting. So unfair competitive advantages are banned? I guess that's why we have biological male and female categories. Right?
@BackForwardPunch
@BackForwardPunch Жыл бұрын
Why don’t they last for more than a few races? What happens to them?
@qw112245
@qw112245 Жыл бұрын
looks definitely like a superhero suit, maybe call him "swimmingman" possibly
@ryanxu9983
@ryanxu9983 Жыл бұрын
Honestly id love a tech suit because im always petrified that my swimsuit is gonna fall off
@sprescav
@sprescav Жыл бұрын
Inspired in Metal Gear (Riden) infiltration suit.
@katsmith5692
@katsmith5692 Жыл бұрын
How do you know which tech suits aren’t banned
@yijuntey
@yijuntey Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure all the commercially available tech suits nowadays are legal (I may be wrong though)
@myswimpro
@myswimpro Жыл бұрын
FINA (now rebranded as World Aquatics) puts a special logo on tech suits that are legal!
@juliepuhr9806
@juliepuhr9806 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@bigredactionsportsstuff1245
@bigredactionsportsstuff1245 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has worn a swimming wetsuit can tell you how much faster they glide.
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx Жыл бұрын
Should have gone back to the convention at the beginning of the Olympic games where clothing was banned.
@a.garcia7127
@a.garcia7127 Жыл бұрын
Best swimming channel out there. Greetings from the Bronx, USA🗽🇺🇸🏊‍♂️❤✌
@joshfriedel5999
@joshfriedel5999 Жыл бұрын
What I absolutely hate about this video (along with everyone that says tech suits should be banned) is that NO ONE is addressing the real problem.....the corporations. You said specifically "Some countries even broke their sponsor agreements to make sure all of their swimmers got the speedo lazr racer. If they didn't get them, they were scared that they wouldn't stand a chance against the competition." So this is where I agree that it should be banned if everyone can't wear the best gear...but the real problem is that these companies are competing against each other, instead of allowing their product to all swimmers to see how far humans can push past the limits. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE when companies are still coming out with tech suits, but are only limited to specific requirements (men for jammers for example). Speak up on the issue, and the issue is greed from corporations.
@geroutathat
@geroutathat Жыл бұрын
Agreed if for example the big 3 brands combined and said "this is the best tech from all of us, in one suite, go see how fast abgiman can really go" and did the deal the Olympics instead of singular people, it would be amazing.
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
That would never happen. Why would they do that, they’d get nothing out of it and only help there competitors.
@mstreamm
@mstreamm 3 ай бұрын
Why not also add flippers?
@jackdarby2168
@jackdarby2168 3 ай бұрын
And a motor
@annearly3200
@annearly3200 10 ай бұрын
So we ban clothes because of the advantages but we can't ban men that come into women's sports.
@speedo1105
@speedo1105 Жыл бұрын
i'd love a comeback as iam the poster man for a non floater, and i mean a sinker.
@JustKyleJeniffer
@JustKyleJeniffer Жыл бұрын
My swim coach proabally doesnt know abt this so imma buy it
@masterkamachi6649
@masterkamachi6649 Жыл бұрын
Texas: Ok, we allow Tech-suits at TAGS(Texas Age Group Swimming) Me: Wears a size 26 instead since I'm too poor.
@tenfarm7409
@tenfarm7409 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@Yoruichi__Shihouin
@Yoruichi__Shihouin Жыл бұрын
Kinda curious if anyone has done the math if a man's bulge or a womens wide hips/large breast cause drag while swimming? Also does a mans V shape body better for drag?
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
It is often said that one of the reasons why Phelps and Dressel are so much faster than everyone else, especially in butterfly, is because they have no ass. Flat as can be.
@Aaron-zk6jn
@Aaron-zk6jn 5 ай бұрын
@@macicoinc9363 Bro dressel definitely does lol. He has so much compression in his suit that it looks slightly flatter. You don't get that powerful without strong glutes
@bw2082
@bw2082 Жыл бұрын
This is dumb. Why not force tennis and golf to go back to wood rackets and clubs?
@pavanatanaya
@pavanatanaya Жыл бұрын
I still contend that any wetsuit is ok to use in open water. The only regulation is you have to put it on after the starting gun fires
@Bartholomew_Allen_III
@Bartholomew_Allen_III Жыл бұрын
Who's the swimmer at 0:48
@jessesmith-garcia5313
@jessesmith-garcia5313 4 ай бұрын
Human Evolution: The Ultimate Performance Enhancer!
@Irish_For_Life1842
@Irish_For_Life1842 2 ай бұрын
These super suits needed to be banned. The complaints, at first, were probably the smallest teams and teams who weren't likely to be in the hunt. They had nothing to lose but were still unhappy. Slowly the complaints build but form an undercurrent and don't get the US media's attention as it didn't involve them. Once the larger teams were outclassed by not just one but TWO suits, they were added to the chorus. USA knows about it? Nope because USA still had the best. Once the US was beat, just as @ryanskogg5211 said, the USA is fuming that this has gone too far! LMBO It isn't news to the USA until it affects us.
@googlypub
@googlypub Жыл бұрын
I thought TYR was pronounced “tear” and not “tee why are”
@eua4808
@eua4808 Жыл бұрын
If the best pre humans did this and did the same traing i think there gonna do 2x as fast or even more faster
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын
We're folks egos hurt that works records were broken?
@VinceAggrippino
@VinceAggrippino Жыл бұрын
The original olympic events were performed in the nude and I imagine that even 2000+ years ago they knew certain clothes could provide an advantage. On the other hand, how cool would it be to see a fully roided out "olympics" with all the advantages modern science can provide.
@caterinagerbasi1594
@caterinagerbasi1594 Жыл бұрын
you are right we need full nude olympics
@ginebrasanmiguel1445
@ginebrasanmiguel1445 Жыл бұрын
So what about COUNTRIES that can't afford that suit??? Still fair competition🤔🤔🤔
@sgtmonkeypirate
@sgtmonkeypirate Жыл бұрын
3.2% is pretty short what if it’s just placebo. They think they will do better and so they do better.
@bonnibel_bubblebuns
@bonnibel_bubblebuns Жыл бұрын
I love when humans choose pride over technology lmao
@rohanrichardson9425
@rohanrichardson9425 Жыл бұрын
I get banning the suits from competition but it would be cool if you could use them at training or just when you going swimming
@ben7445
@ben7445 Жыл бұрын
You can
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
There’s be no point in using them for training. The whole point of using a tech suit in training is to get your technique down with the changes the suit provides. If you can’t wear the suit in competition, then you are effectively just ruining your stroke.
@rohanrichardson9425
@rohanrichardson9425 Жыл бұрын
@@macicoinc9363 yeah but it would be cool to wear one
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
@@rohanrichardson9425 It would be cool
@supernoodles908
@supernoodles908 Жыл бұрын
​@@rohanrichardson9425they wear out really quickly. I was a high level swimmer when these were out and allowed. They didn't last many races. Really no point in training in them
@boombox783
@boombox783 Жыл бұрын
Honey, where's my supersuit?
@adrukker
@adrukker Жыл бұрын
Phelps 400 IM recently fell
@myswimpro
@myswimpro Жыл бұрын
Yes! It was an epic swim from Léon Marchand!
@anxietyvoyage2230
@anxietyvoyage2230 Жыл бұрын
It Phelps is a sports freak we will never see… i remember she Ian Thorpe before him kill records. Similar swimsuits.
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