MYTH - Thoughts and Tips on Taming the Harshness

So there's been some mixed reactions to Myth, Dawesome's new multitimbral synth, and I've noticed some misunderstandings I think I should address. I also share my thoughts on the presentation of this synth overall, and why I personally feel that, if the transformers had been the main focus and the resynthesis a more supplemental aspect of the sound engine, perhaps our initial reaction to Myth would be very different. In any case, I demonstrate a few different ways to mitigate the harshness of the resynthesis result that some people might take issue with, along with some other tricks I've got up my sleeve.

[@robmlisanti]

Thank You Bryan!! I love the sounds of this synth, just need to deep dive into it!

[@PeteGunnShow]

Im diving back into myth after the latest update. And the resynthesis v2 is soooo much better. Try it out if you havent yet. Still i struggle to get usable patches out of it. I been at it for about 4 hours today and just decided to take a break for some tips lol The presets sound amazing, but i like being able to craft every sound i use. Maybe i should spend less time tryingnto get custom irises to work tho

[@iamelohym]

Good Tips, thank you!

[@DigitalAura]

the re-synthesis is not bad. But it's not great either. Also, it's not what most of us expected, and certainly not what we collectively wanted. We're forced to be very choosey about source material. Basically, we need to do a lot of work or we need to ensure we use dull, plain, single-cycle waveforms. We wanted to be able to throw in long, evolving sounds and reinvent them.

[@SoundAuthor]

You still can. Just not the way you intended to. Myth threw a curveball at all of us. 😉

[@chirpsounds]

Yeah, it’s just the term used that drew expectations. But it’s an awesome synthesis system IMO, with much care into details

[@scottymac3634]

Interesting stuff. What other synths do resynthesis? Alchemy used to and, for lucky Logicers, maybe still does. But I’m drawing a blank on any others.

[@Heops]

Thank you, this is helpful and insightful information and demonstration. Your points are valid about the irises (resynthesis) taking a back seat to transformers in the GUI, but the colours and shapes modulations/shaping are the transformers (not really)... Possibly a way to see/understand it is the resynthesis is the (almost blank) page and the transformers are the writing/story on that page.

[@PGAudioworks]

Brooo, your presets are amazing!

[@wwoodard8]

Thank you for this! You really made the process you are going through clear and helped me understand this synth and how it can be used. So - my question is - even though the re-synth is not the focus, it still remains the first step. In light of that... 1. What is the process the re-synthesizer goes through? There are four layers in the re-synth - how? Why? 2. IRL usage, what would be the aesthetic process in choosing one sample over another? The way I've tried to use this synth so far is this - Let's say I want a "stringy" sound, so I put in a string sample. But the re-synth gives me something different than what I expected. I guess I expected a synthesized copy of the string sound that I could use as a starting point. How do you go about doing that first step - choosing a sample to get you where you want to go? Anyway, great stuff here. Thanks again!

[@SoundAuthor]

Whew, there's a lot to unpack there. As for the DSP used for the resynthesis engine, I have no idea what's going on under the hood. The "temporal layers" that you can crossfade between with the half-moon shaped "WTF" transformer remind me of the spectral layers that are extracted from a single sample in Novum. At least, I like to think of it that way. So, you're crossfading in between clusters of harmonics that belong to a sort of timbral profile in accordance with how bright or how dark they are. As for the process of choosing samples for resynthesis, I don't recommend having a plan for that; this is not a synth I would try to conjure a desired result out of. It's pure experimentation and exploration. So, my advice would be to give yourself permission to move in a direction you might not have intended to. Myth is a very "left-field" type of synth that doesn't gel nicely with our expectations. So just let yourself fall down the rabbit hole and see what happens. 😎

[@wwoodard8]

There is a great discussion about this on discord, but YT doesn't seem to want to let me link to it :)

[@wwoodard8]

find "dawsome-in-the-lab" and search for the text "I'd like to clarify a common mis-conception about the sample input - I think this will make it easier to grasp how to actually use samples in Myth." (Sheesh. Worth going through the effort!)

[@MathHammer]

@@wwoodard8 What is the channel name? Never mind, I found the server link in the Myth manual. I think the discussion you are referencing is from "dawesome-in-the-lab" where Peter explains extracting the temporal evolution of the sample and gives several examples. It is very helpful.

[@jonotwycross8998]

true

[@blackout2able]

If cloud is too long just modulate wet :)