How good is the low light on BMPCC4K?

[@aaronhinton92]

It's so compressed on KZbin though that it's hard to even get a full understanding of how noisy the footage gets. Have you considered making a few seconds of the raw footage of each ISO available to download? That would be extremely helpful. :)

[@ThisIsTenou]

"It's super grainy" *doesn't see any grain at all * You're right, downloads of the original raw files would be great!

[@cinematic_monkey]

watch it in 4k, you'll see it

[@Maxversionrock]

@@ThisIsTenou true haha!

[@mordaciousfilms]

Thanks for answering the question of simply which ISO's look best in low light! I was wondering why shooting 800 looked noisier than it should and I'm glad to know I can safely push it to 1600! Nice!

[@JamesJacksonFilmz]

I did my own set of ISO testing and i think the pocket 4k more than any camera I have used has such extreme flexibility for various lighting conditions, but you need to know how and when to use at certain lighting conditions. For example I found 800 ISO is quite unable even suggested for bright scenes as you have more DR in the highlights than 400 ISO pull down the blacks and you clean up the noise. For low light scenes where your shots are mostly in the shadows 1250 or 1600 is best even if your under exposing. At 1600 ISO I am able to recover 2 stops of underexposure in post in Raw and almost 3 stops in ProRes, with clean imaging and little color shift. Which is obviously equilivant of shooting 6400 and 12800 ISO. For low light settings where you have a good mixture of highlights and shadows go with 3200.

[@tomvrenen9859]

really neat friendo, thanks a bunch!

[@miltostart]

This is not a really fair ISO test. I think you should change the aperture/shutter speed as you increase the ISO so the exposure stays the same. A better exposed image will look much better than an underexposed one, especially in these low light conditions.

[@kaleoleitholdt9356]

Change the aperture, you mean, the more ISO, faster the aperture should be, so, the light would appear the same?

[@lucidwindowsstudio]

I shot some lowlight scenes at around 300-400 ISO and it was quite noisy! And I don't feel the light was so low that it should have been an issue.

[@jimbawb]

Excellent comparison. Thanks for taking the time to share this.

[@joellouisfire]

Great video man! Easy to understand. Tried the Pocket 4K for a few days and loved it and this video answered my questions on the ISO. Btw, you look tired or overworked! Get that rest, it's important haha. I missed some of that chipperness you usually bring to videos lol, but awesome video nevertheless.

[@3dPrintCreator]

None of the shots look sharp to me. I can see the grain, and I think you are right about using the second native ISO on this camera for low light, but it would have helped if the comparison was made with a sharp image.

[@ivonikolov6386]

I love it , quick question , I’m still using Blackmagic production camera 4K , and I can’t shoot even on a magic hour because of the fixed pattern noise, this pocket is much better , what is your opinion?

[@tattah96]

I also found 1250 to have the less noise out of all the ISOs...why is that? I thought 400 and 3200 would give the best images but seems that 1250 does.

[@myvideoversion]

1250 is where the dynamic range resets so from 1000 to 1250 you are now in the upper dynamic range so you will get the same grain at 1250 as you do at 100iso

[@StudioNB]

So, just to make sure I'm understanding this completely... (I'm new to this, sorry) Either 100-400 ISO or 1250-3200 ISO for least noise, correct? And if you need more than 3200 ISO, bring in some lights, ya goof!

[@rolithesecond]

I actually think even 25k iso looks very usable, if you are in a documentary style environment where having a shot vs not having a shot counts. For a studio scenario of course it isn't viable.

[@BobCorey]

So at ISO 200 and 1600 you get only 3 stops DR above middle as the chart says? My Lumix G7 does so and it's bad...clips skies etc.

[@littletheatrefilms5825]

Super random question but what Mac do you edit your videos on and what program do you color grade and edit with? I don’t know if you created a video for it. I need to upgrade and I’m lost on where to begin. You work professional and your work is amazing. I’d love your opinion. Thanks again for the great vids man.

[@myvideoversion]

I edit for work on a imac pro but for personal videos I use a 27inch imac. Which does well enough for my needs. I use Adobe premiere to edit and devinci resolve for color

[@littletheatrefilms5825]

myvideoversion Thank you so much. Love DaVinci Resolve but I’m not used to its editing. Didn’t know if I should force the change or stick with Premiere. Plus I heard a souped up iMac is pretty good for my needs.

[@WolfofNightMusic]

I didn't notice the grain until you zoomed in, youtube compression degrades the video that much. I really need a download of the video to analyse. I use a sony a7s2 but hardly ever go up on the higher isos, unless trying to fake daytime. so scouring the internet to find some real night shots set up properly.

[@pete49327]

Good job, thumbs up. Question please...if you were to do a manual white balance before shooting, would that correct the overall color balance too, and let you forego having to shoot a color chart and then adjusting that in post as you demonstrated here? Thanks.

[@myvideoversion]

I didn't change any white balance. You might be able to play around with the tint. You also don't have to use a color checker that just makes it quick and easy you can also use scopes to balance your colors

[@mydailyflight]

Nice short video, appreciated!

[@mrwashur1991]

I’m watching this on my 40in tv and it looks great.. grain is fine, just don’t want the image to break. These all look less grainy than the original at 1600 which was a nice grain. Not rgb grain

[@gravityimage5]

Informative. Thank you.

[@danielcook3168]

If you're shooting BRAW I read something about shooting 400 in lowlight and 3200 in bright situations (where you use ND to bring it down again) in order to get the best dynamic range. Don't know if this is works for BMPCC4k?

[@franchocou]

Exposure to the right 🦀🦀

[@actionshotsphotography]

What mode was the camera in though? I think that's my problem. Noise at ISO800 in lowlight is unusable with the 6k. I was in film| 12:1 CBR. What mode is yours in in low light?

[@myvideoversion]

This was for the pocket 4k braw 3:1

[@PaulOuzounov]

Thanks for the awesome, helpful video!

[@rccpromotions]

Did you shoot this at 180 or 360?

[@franklinmichael671]

2:07 how bright was it to your eyes? What ISO equivalent?

[@PhillipRPeck]

Good job and clear explanation. In the ISO 400 color-corrected image, the blacks in the sky seem to be pretty noisy. Is that just me?

[@myvideoversion]

In the final color I pushed them a lot more to be a balanced image because it was under exposed. The 3200 was properly exposed so didn't have to push it as much

[@PhillipRPeck]

@@myvideoversion Ah. Thanks for the explanation. I look forward to seeing more comparisons between this and the Ursas. Or whatever else you want to do!

[@CryWolfFilms]

wouldn't it have more grain at a lower iso because the image way more underexposed than the higher isos, thus crushing the blacks and making the image fall apart?

[@Inlandrouteflyfishingupnorth]

This was spot on, thanks bro

[@adamreich745]

Yeah, still looking forward to your Ursa Mini 4.6k vs BMPCC4k video, but in the meantime, if you’re short on time, can we get an I’m-just-eating-a-sandwich sequel? Or maybe a shake this time... I don’t know. :) In any case, thanks for all the awesome vids.

[@Jeremy.Muller]

Thanks, nice comparison!

[@PowersBenzoCoaching]

I’m not getting these results. I shot in similar lighting conditions on the BMPCC4K with an iso of 300-400 and it had tons of noise. I used canon FD 50mm f1.8 lens wide open???

[@uhuhno6441]

3 words: speed booster, man.

[@dragonstone6594]

Watching this on a LG 1080p monitor I couldn't see any noise until 12800 ISO. I think your standards are a little too high or you must be zooming in 100%. Also at 3200 ISO it's not operating at full dynamic range but 1 stop less. So it's 13 Stops at 400 and 12 stops at 3200.

[@tomibeg]

KZbin compression "eats" all noise.

[@tokiofilms]

Great job! Thanks!

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

I think 12800 looks totally useable. I'm viewing on a 32'' monitor and it looks ok. A little noise reduction and a color grade and it will look totally fine.

[@AGE552]

On a big screen it would be unusable, but for videos or something mediocre its actually pretty good!

[@flim2861]

Yeah same thought m using ipad 10 inch to watch rhis and 12800 still looks usable to me , there is noise but image still has details and its not breaking

[@juancarlosgzrz]

what kind of light is it? I couldn't find any link in your description-

[@myvideoversion]

So I've had that light for over a year and I cant recommend it the battery doesn't really keep charge anymore and the light is bubbling. If it were me I would go with either the aputure MC for $90 or the aputure m9 for $45. Both have lasted longer and are more reliable than the one I show in the video

[@livikafilms1262]

It is graini but what about that red patter that ursas have at top iso? Is like that? That unremovable noise or is a noise than can be removed in post?

[@myvideoversion]

No fix noise pattern

[@fatbeets4781]

I shoot APS-C and down to f/1.8 with my 50mm. I understand DOF may be different on M4/3rds, but that sure doesn't seem like f/1.3 given the fence in the far background is still relatively in focus.

[@jasminedelavega2509]

its a wide angle lens not a 50 so more dof

[@oiko2k4]

It's f/1.3 only exposure wise because of the speedbooster I believe. This does not affect DOF

[@jackdelang4301]

so the aperture and framerate is the same ? what is the framerate ?

[@uhuhno6441]

Those are the things you just might want to google.

[@julkat001]

Please tell me where you get that Film Crew sticker

[@myvideoversion]

It was designed by an internal team that work for Qualtrics

[@DeanHarringtonimages]

Thanks ... nicely done.

[@jordi0m]

Yep, I tested this for myself and we're on the same page.. If you can sacrifice dynamic range, you're better off at 1250 than 3200. If not, I just go up to 3200 and pop on my variable ND filter and be done.

[@vlcheish]

What is your DNG Raw compression ratio?

[@myvideoversion]

Uncompressed

[@CzechAvailabilitie]

I actually like grain. Digital grain less so than film grain but both have their place.

[@THERIIS]

Exactly

[@uhuhno6441]

Meh. Idk. ISO fuck up grain is meh.

[@NordsternOutdoor]

they all look fine on my phone 😅

[@myblacklab7]

I feel like the barbed wire around the baseball bat creates an unnecessary risk that it will get snagged on hair or clothing. Oh wait, is this a camera review? This looks bad to me, and definitely not cinema quality. Sigh - it's too bad that full-frame video cameras are so expensive.

[@adriatic123]

Low light footage is not much better than a mobile phone camera. Arri Alexa 35 is uncomparably better, it is expensive but obviously for a reason. Too bad it will cost like this camera in a few years so you have to be a pro to make a financially reasonable purchase, otherwise it's a financial loss.