kolasis 2:9 lay eyesus befitsum amlaknetu endetegelete enji eyesus ab mehonun ayasayim. Isayas 9:6 'yezelalem abat' be ebrayst 'abiad' its a compound name and in their tradition if 'abi' used like this, it means that the person called by this name have that characteristics. eg:'abiyasaf' in zetseat 6:24 means collector(sebsabi). 2 sam 23:31'abialbon' means stronger or father of strong. there fore in isa 9:6 means jesus lives forever.if it isnt like this what does it mean in john 8:44,45 calling satan father of lie? it simply means satan is lier.