N55 M2 or S55 M2? (Which is the Better value?)

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@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
What do you think? N55 m2 or is the s55 worth the jump?
@jonspec.
@jonspec. Жыл бұрын
I just picked up my LCI N55 M2 on Labor Day weekend and I have been thoroughly impressed. First was a F30 328, then a E82 N55 DCT, now this and given the options it has, the mileage being 40K, sure the price may have been a bit inflated but I cant justify the S55 M2 unless you really want to break that 500whp threshold *still achievable by the OG M2 but it will take more to do so*. Personally, daily go with OG, more track/pleasure car go with S55. I'll be looking to go PS2 as I would like to see 500 but it really depends on fueling (don't entirely want to do PI)
@Just_Drivers_Cars
@Just_Drivers_Cars Жыл бұрын
N55 guy here! I can afford the M2 Comp. I prefer the sound of the OG M2 so much. It’s such a big part of the experience. 400whp with a 6 spd is plenty. It’s all you need for the street. With all that torque it feels 🚀🚀
@adeel1113
@adeel1113 Жыл бұрын
If you are tracking get the comp . For the streets/backroad driving the OG M2 is plenty fun !
@lloyd.8272
@lloyd.8272 10 ай бұрын
@@adeel1113quite a few track car rental companies in Germany say it’s the other way around.
@FutureGameLight
@FutureGameLight 4 ай бұрын
@@jonspec. for me its the exact opposite, daily go with the s55 and track go with the n55 because of running costs and costs for part to replace if they brake. i have 600whp (593 i think to be exact) and it was over all 10k of which were around 3.5k because it has to be legal in germany so i can track it on the nürburgring. the s55 is more of a daily driver with all the extra features and the extra weight they bring. if you want to buil a track tool just use the m2 og as a base and take parts from the m235i racing / m240i racing cup series cars (both n55 cars with more adjustable suspension links and good aero). the s55 is just pricier to run and thats pretty much it.
@mattlau
@mattlau Жыл бұрын
I like the N55. Especially at $20,000 less. They are both true M cars. Sure, N55 only has a single turbo, but an M car isn’t just the engine. It’s the whole package. The tuning, suspension and the wide body is what gives it the M status. I’ve driven it and man, is it fun! It’s literally always in attack mode and really spices up your commute. And no doubt, the sound from the N55 with the M-performance exhaust is music.
@aboen22
@aboen22 Жыл бұрын
Sold my F80 M3 because of multiple road debris puncture on the oil cooler underneath the car about four years ago, jumped into an OG M2 , definitely feels more special for day-to-day driving, feels more raw, low end torque just feels awesome for daily driving without having to do anything crazy illegal on public roads.
@eldogo1
@eldogo1 Жыл бұрын
If you are in the HP numbers bros group then the S55 will be the choice. But realistically the N55 can give you plenty of usable power. Nothing to brag about but you will be super happy. These days people love talking HP numbers but where do you need all of that for? It's an Ego game rather than what makes you smile on the road.
@MotoGearTV
@MotoGearTV Жыл бұрын
This really comes down to preference as you mentioned, I personally love my OG M2 but they are a few things I wish it had seats, better power delivery etc. but most of which can be fixed once you plan to mod it, the OG M2 was never intended for straight line speed but rather it shines in handling…Either way you can’t go wrong whether N55 or S55 it’s a great driver’s car nonetheless 👍🏾
@karolmaciejewski340
@karolmaciejewski340 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I prefer og M2 over M2c , it sounds so mutch better and on the track u can feel and extra weight on the front. If u want to go for over 500bhp take m2c but otherwise buy M2 put some coils and stage2 and you will get faster more fun car for less money.
@TerrannotOP
@TerrannotOP Ай бұрын
100%
@modeez
@modeez Жыл бұрын
After having both, I would say it depends on what you plan to do with the car. If you just plan on taking it to the track, S55 all the way, if it's for street driving only, N55. S55 is less fun for daily driving because it felt like I could never hit the limits of the engine on the street lol.
@billmolyneaux7625
@billmolyneaux7625 Жыл бұрын
I’d have to disagree. I’m in a fbo e40 m240i and drove my friends og m2. Great drivers car, and I think would be amazing on track. The n55 though feels lacking in power on street, but maybe modded I wouldn’t mind it. I think if you want a track car/drivers car the n55 is fine, but if you want some power skip the n55. Not saying it’s a bad car, it’s amazing to drive but I personally just wanted more power out of it.
@modeez
@modeez Жыл бұрын
@@billmolyneaux7625 No definitely agree with you that N55 M2 lacks power and you can hit the limit on the street, which is why I recommended it for the street. I have more fun when I hit the limits of a car on the street, can't do the same for the S55.
@mcbane235
@mcbane235 Жыл бұрын
@@modeez There is that saying. Sometimes it's more fun to drive a "slow" car fast than to drive a fast car slow.
@user-wz4fw2ws1s
@user-wz4fw2ws1s Жыл бұрын
Yes, the F80/F82 may have an S55 but an M car is much more than purely the engine. The M4 may be quick but as a drivers car, the F87 M2 OG or Comp offers so much more. Funny how everyone criticises the N55 and that it's not a pure M car, it's absurd. Yet, 1M with the N54 is widely regarded as the ultimate M car. A lot of people chase figures so they want the S55, you aren't putting down all that power and the N55 is no slouch.
@FutureGameLight
@FutureGameLight Жыл бұрын
i have the og m2 and i love the engine. i also drive an m4 comp often and i really think it lacks so much sould compared to the og m2. also the n55 is heavily modified with s55 parts (internals, dry sump oil pump and so on)
@cesarsalazar3521
@cesarsalazar3521 7 ай бұрын
I completely understand your opinion and get where you come from. I've had n54 6 Spd and n55 dct personally along with driving the manuals as well even driving an n54 135i with a dct trans swapped to it. Now I recently picked up an m2C. If you think of the design of the current m engines they are all twin turbo cars which give it that quirky punch. The n54 perfectly resembles these newer s engines if anything I sometimes just think of the newer s engines as being the drastic improvement over the years of what the n54 wanted to be. Yes the n55 is an amazing engine having owned one too. In the end I think it doesn't come down to n54 or n55 engines and what base models it also comes with. I think just the power delivery that these twin turbo bmw engines provide is what makes the big difference having driven them. All the twin turbo bow cars I have driven make me poop my pants lol and that's what makes them so special to many people I believe. N55 no matter the power has not made me feel this way weirdly. I am not sure if this makes sense and if this is a valid opinion but its mine. It always comes down to the feeling and that's what makes all of us car enthusiasts. In the end it is always personal preference. But I honestly think too if I picked up an go m2 and saw a comp on the street I would Get a feeling in my stomach wishing I got one. This is also a daily car that I will track from time to time and out the box it is a better machine to perform with without needing much.
@ovnilab
@ovnilab Жыл бұрын
*I own the 2018 M2 (N55 of course) and still love that thing! Perfect amount of power for a daily driver around town and even up in the Angeles Crest Forest winding canyon roads. And the N55 with my DINAN exhaust setup just sounds WAY better that the S55, IMO. Eventually, I'll move up to the later years of M, or may move up to the Porsche GT3 if the finances warrant it, at that time!*
@FutureGameLight
@FutureGameLight Жыл бұрын
i had to make that decision just a few months ago and went n55. first of sound... the n55 over all sounds better but since i live i germany its an even bigger diffference because the s55 has the extra otto particuate filter (opf) which makes it even more shitty und quiet. i got my og m2 nearly fully built in oem+ style/clubsport with just 34k km (like 20k miles i thnk)... it has the m performance exhaust, kw v3, hjs downpipe, eventuri intake, gts software for trans/diff/steering, allignment from a nürburgring race team, interior all m performance parts in dry carbon and a steering wheel like your m4 and last but not least funktional traktool rear spoiler, wing and front lip. so i got even better sound, handling (honestly it kills porsche on the backroads easily) and looks for far less money than the m2 comp. power... i ordered an upgrade turbo for around 550 to 600hp and i wont go higher since i track the car and i think all these 700, 800hp and over cars are dumb because you cant enjoy them and i think that just abve over 500hp is the sweetspot for these car. also there are some stock internal m2 with 750hp, so i really dont understand why people want more and i live in germany where i can goo full out every day on the autobahn. i also drove 700hp m4s and its fun for a few times to rush to like 340kmh/211mph but i really enjoy backroads and tracks more. and that 600hp og m2 wont be that slow also :D weight is also huge, we weight some of our cars and i have a bit of a tracktool speck, which i dig because race car and a buddy has a normal specked comp. his car weighs over 250lbs more and i havent yet gutted my interior. looks... so i was always a big fan of the comp front but when both stand side by side so far everyone says that the og looks better because its much more beefy/heavier looking on the front view. even i was suprised by that. so over all it surely its a choice which isnt easy but i honestly couldnt be happier :D if you want a drag or highway car just go with the s55 models but if you ove corners no matter where get the og m2 because you wont need 800hp for that ;)
@rainbrox2
@rainbrox2 Жыл бұрын
Currently looking at picking up a stage 1 2015 m4 (with downpipes, not flashed stage 2 due to no crank hub fix) for high 30s, 60k miles - based on what you've seen in price trends, is this a good time to pick one up or will we bottom out on them?
@smitty_schmitz
@smitty_schmitz Жыл бұрын
Agreed, a B58 M2 would have been a monster. I split the difference and grabbed an 2019 M240i Xdrive to do a hybrid turbo, Ohlins and forged apex wheels. Shoot for an all around 10 sec daily. As soon as that’s done in the next few months, hopefully the OGM2/M2C market will come back down to reality. As much as I love that M240i, it’s still not an M2C. So Im planning to pick one up for a more track focused toy, hard to beat the factory widebody and ability to stuff 285/305 combo for track duty. Just like you, I’m lucky to be blessed enough to experience a few different things!
@vahlv
@vahlv Жыл бұрын
would it be easy to swap b58 in a m2 thinking about buying a high mileage m2 abd swapping it
@CastleRockable
@CastleRockable Жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to the individual and what your budget and how you intent to use your car. For me I bought my OG new and I was going to upgrade to a M2C. But after getting into auto cross I realized the bottle neck is myself as a driver not the car. For the gap in price between the 2 I rather get a used brz or something. Not saying it is the right decision for everyone to go down this route, if I never got into auto cross I would have upgraded for the S55 cause it is more hype.
@BwhyZ
@BwhyZ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Been in the process of buying an OG LCI M2 fingers crossed I'll get a good deal soon.
@Areku06
@Areku06 Жыл бұрын
All the m2 OG needs is pure stage 2 turbo, you will have reliable 500hp car for only $4-5k installed. 450whp on stock hpfp and 500whp on upgrade hpfp, hpfp is what is holding it back. If you want more, there is big boost kit which is 600whp+. Pure stage 2 is the most reliable setup, uses oem housing and parts. Also sound on n55 is so much better than s55. There is pure stage 3 turbo kit coming soon for n55 as well, 800hp+. N55 can make good power with supporting mods.
@barevybez5117
@barevybez5117 Жыл бұрын
What did you use for the steering wheel??
@mkvB58KING
@mkvB58KING Жыл бұрын
Try the MPPSK setting for burbles if it's available. I find even on zero using the sliders the pops are wayyyy too loud. MPPSK is just the right amount and you can use it anywere 👍
@josephcassiba8328
@josephcassiba8328 Жыл бұрын
Very good perspective. I want to add 3 things you didn't mention. First, the DCT is another awesome performance feature that makes the OG M2 a true M car. It takes the performance and engagement to another level. Gives you race car or supercar vibes and so much more connected and fun than the ZF8 speed in the M light cars. Don't get me wrong, the ZF is the best traditional auto and does an amazing job, but cannot compare to the connection, performance and aggression of the DCT. I only had manual sports cars until my knees started protesting, but honestly there is no way I could shift or get the performance of that amazing DCT. Second, OG M2 sounds much better based on reviews. Third, you can exploit the full capability of the OG M2 on the street. I floored it and took it to redline repeatedly on the street and had an absolute blast exercising the best part of the car--the handling. Full disclosure, I have never driven an M2 comp, so I may be singing a different tune once I do...lol.
@dylan-nguyen
@dylan-nguyen Жыл бұрын
As someone who shopped for M2’s in 2021 The M2c felt way more special and was what I ended up purchasing. I’m a stickler for the small details so things like the seats, gauge cluster, etc made the M2c feel more different than an M235i/M240i. The original M2 felt too much like an M240i to me and was about the same price. At the time there was only about a $10-15k price difference and the M2c would be brand new But even in todays market I would personally go M2c again
@TimChump
@TimChump Жыл бұрын
I’ve thought a lot about this, upgrading from the m2 to the comp, it’s not worth it in my opinion, the s55 had too many flaws, you have to spend 2-3k for the crank hub fix then another 5k to fix the exhaust sound and cow udder looks.
@Livingmybestlife68
@Livingmybestlife68 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. I’ve been going back-and-forth on which one to buy the OG or the M2c. I decided I’m going to stick with the OG with a DTC. I do plan to auto cross and track the car. I’m going to only lightly mod it. I’m not looking for crazy horsepower. The S 55 like you said, has fatal flaws with the crank hub and after dealing with years of spending money on my old E46 M3 I’m done with all the bullshit that comes with these M motors. OG, all the way, better handling, sounding and more engaging drive.
@garyodehnal1
@garyodehnal1 Ай бұрын
Crank hub issues are completely blown out of proportion. Aftermarket suppliers love to make this a big thing only to line their pockets! Less than 1% failure rate and mostly due to abusive launches and over boosted engines 😂. Get real guys 😢
@iKindaLikeMyMusic
@iKindaLikeMyMusic Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you made this video - I've been OG M2 shopping. I can't think of a better car for my personal budget of 40K. I autocross and track and that's what making me pass on the M235/240 route for the handling. I think on the track I'll wish I had the S55 at times, autocross not at all. I find it hard to justify the 20K jump for simply more HP and seats. My 2 cents haha, great info and insight!
@FutureGameLight
@FutureGameLight Жыл бұрын
you can easily do 600hp in our og m2s so dont worry about that and its good you went with the m2 for autocross because the n55 m2 has oil circulaton and a dry sump oil pump from the s55, also pistons from the s55, better ported heads, better forged rod and crankshaft. so your car will easily handle the abuse. with the m235/240 you lack the dry sump oil pump and could easily get a major engine failure by going to autocross and many people dont even think about that (and they dont have the LSD). i would advise you to go with the gts software for the diff and trans it changes so much
@ryankeeley6821
@ryankeeley6821 Жыл бұрын
what if you b58 engine swap the m2? not worth the price and labor or will it be cheaper then the s55 m2 comp?? actually have considered this in the past... even a 2jz into the og m2. I wouldn't be opposed
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Def cheaper to just buy a comp. B58 engine alone will cost $7-10k. But you’ll need much more than just a motor
@leohiden042
@leohiden042 Жыл бұрын
idk about the E88 they are a bit too rounded for me personally but from what I've seen I think the LM's look the best or one of the lightweight 1 piece options but those don't come in multi piece so that wouldn't be an option for you I think
@DC-88
@DC-88 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏼 amen
@jim8462
@jim8462 Жыл бұрын
I had an n55 m2 and I tuned it and it was rubbish a lot of money for min gains. Although I love the sound the tuning potentially is just so much better on the S55.
@echelon270
@echelon270 Жыл бұрын
About the wheels i dont know if the gold is gonna work, the black looks good on this car and im not a fan of black wheels. Look forward to seeing what you end up doing though and N55 all day I dont think the s55 is 20k better than the n55.
@_triplj9982
@_triplj9982 Жыл бұрын
YES a B58 M2 would be sick!! I have the M340 & I love the B58 but would prefer it with the size and handling of the M2.
@frankm0023
@frankm0023 Жыл бұрын
Great Video !! Love the f87
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
🫡
@mariochang1867
@mariochang1867 Жыл бұрын
same logic i used when i looked (aug 2020) at a OG M2 low mileage vs 21 M2 comp. Tuning potential of S55 for the win.
@trooper_f30
@trooper_f30 Жыл бұрын
M2 comp rodeos and some solid pads will do the trick cost effective and also it works with stock calipers then you can save the CCB for when you sell unlike the previous owner did with the roll cage 🙄
@micraw714
@micraw714 Жыл бұрын
I was really close to selling my OG for either a comp or an F80/82 but ended up buying a PS2 turbo and Dorch hpfp during the labor day sales lol. If it weren't for current market and interest rates, I probably would've made the jump though! And yes B58 M2 would've been perfect 👌 😍
@Areku06
@Areku06 Жыл бұрын
That’s all m2 needs, how do you like it now?
@micraw714
@micraw714 Жыл бұрын
@@Areku06 Yep! I really like it, it's a little monster now with a slightly unpredictable rear end but definitely a thrill to drive 😁 I'm only running a 91 oct tune but hoping to get some E in her this spring when it starts warming up!
@sirwilliam0722
@sirwilliam0722 Жыл бұрын
I own OG m2 for 5 years since new and there were a couple of times thinking about upgrading to M2C. The only thing stopped me was they are all RWD. They already got too much power for this little/short wheelbase car even on the track. I don’t need S55/B58/S58. I just need AWD.
@aaronmedina6330
@aaronmedina6330 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you need a TTRS or RS3 haha
@Jackson53ie
@Jackson53ie 9 ай бұрын
😂
@fernandomason2226
@fernandomason2226 8 ай бұрын
Should I buy an OG m2 I never had a M before but Ik I could make more power if I get a 340 bc of the b58 what would you guys do the m2 is a beautiful car !
@ryan2k814
@ryan2k814 6 ай бұрын
M2
@defyyourlogic487
@defyyourlogic487 2 ай бұрын
I had a b58 and switched to an OG m2 (from 240i). Yes the b58 can make way more power but the car struggles to put it down unless you get an LSD and suspension mods to run anything over 450 hp. Might be less of a problem in the 340i but it’s definitely gonna struggle compared to an M. Handling, feel, personality, sound, everything is just much more visceral in the M2. And that 365 hp stock puts the power down well enough to feel the rush of 400+ in my old car. Just something to consider.
@maxf4275
@maxf4275 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I got the OG M2 (2018), the engine sound and "original" bmw feel won me over in comparison with a M2C... I'm never selling it, especially when I see the newer generation German cars...
@glaktown
@glaktown Жыл бұрын
Definitely no brainer to preserve the factory CCBs from track use which in turn allows you to cop those used BBS wheels without having to wait and for cheaper. Also bonus for not having to replace the CCBs and can throw it back on whenever like when you’re selling the car.
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@F10alec
@F10alec 5 ай бұрын
I may not have the OG m2 but I still love the n55 in my 535i :)
@romanianx
@romanianx Жыл бұрын
THE BEARD ! what had happened was .... 🤣
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ikraam19
@ikraam19 Жыл бұрын
I tried to like the S55 and came close to buying a F80, but could not come to terms with how aweful that engine and exhaust note sounds. The S55 is lacking character IMO. I owned a OG for a couples of years and loved that car. The N55 in the OG has enough power for daily use, for me it would be the N55 every day of the week.
@michaelpolissky
@michaelpolissky Жыл бұрын
Can't agree more!
@jmccarsnmore1025
@jmccarsnmore1025 Жыл бұрын
With some money, I would get an OG M2 and S63 swapped it. The ultimate slayer!! And swap that N55 on to a 318ti!!
@andrie0122
@andrie0122 Жыл бұрын
id settle on a M240i with the B58 i think F or G chassis
@Nathan-wu4yl
@Nathan-wu4yl Жыл бұрын
Bro you need to do that swap(b58 m2), it shouldn’t be so hard and it would make amazing content
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
I want to put a b58 into a f31
@Adam684
@Adam684 Жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips OMG, please do this🥵🤤... We need some wagon love on this channel! Tho I also agree a B58 M2 build would also be sick...
@vadersf30
@vadersf30 Жыл бұрын
BBS's would look so sick
@coupish
@coupish Жыл бұрын
The new g series m240i is gonna be the best of both worlds when used and prices drop. the body is growing on me and has nice performance and xdrive
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Agree
@car.manmonkeydriftmonkey676
@car.manmonkeydriftmonkey676 Жыл бұрын
Please get E88s 🤩🤩🤩
@testaccount07
@testaccount07 Жыл бұрын
The best way to fit the e88 is, get a Ap Racing and order the wheels over Team Schirmer in Germany. They have the e88‘s in stock so u don’t have to wait 10 months 🤙🏿
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Ohhh thank you!!
@skudnu5462
@skudnu5462 Жыл бұрын
interesting, in germany its the other way around. competition prices have dropped 5-10% YTD and OG M2 prices are up 5%. I prefer the N55 M2 because it pairs better with manual transmission, no interest in tuning either.
@karolmaciejewski340
@karolmaciejewski340 Жыл бұрын
Similar in Poland, M2C prices are dropping a bit in last weeks while OG are up in value , but still M2C is like 5-10k € more for similar year and milage.
@skudnu5462
@skudnu5462 Жыл бұрын
@@karolmaciejewski340 i would say the price difference is 3-5k here. I personally think the comp prices will keep on dropping, especially once the new G87 is out. i assume many comp owners will be moving and sell their comp inflating the market even more
@ericliu6692
@ericliu6692 10 ай бұрын
@@skudnu5462 true, s55 is not the selling point now cuz s58 beats the shit outta s55. The comps are in an awkward position in between. stronger? or OG cheaper?
@X314G
@X314G Жыл бұрын
Different markets I guess, N55 M2 is 40-55k here and M2 Comp goes for 60-75k lol, the price needs to go down, F80 going for 60-70k, and there's almost no manual LCI versions out here. I'm stuck with my stage 2+ 435i for now, I got it before the market went full shithouse for 28k with an xDrive Msport package, stage 1 and 35k miles.
@user-ki8gv3zh1t
@user-ki8gv3zh1t 6 күн бұрын
OG M2 has enough power and really good torque and It's a nervous car. In terms of sound, M2 N55, M3 e92 and M5/6 V10 are the best. S55 can be so fast, but no way has that sound that when you go to the garage, you feel the the engine.
@invalidnumbers654
@invalidnumbers654 Жыл бұрын
studio rsr has some decently priced cages 👍
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
unfortunately they do not mount to factor GTS OEM Roll cage mounting points.
@ericliu6692
@ericliu6692 10 ай бұрын
Worth upgrading S55 if money is not an issue and is interested in chasing power, street pulls, trackability. Not worth it if you're just interested in getting M chassis handling, fair enough horse power, track/drift occasionally and 100% better sound.
@christianestrada8889
@christianestrada8889 Жыл бұрын
E88 😍😍😍
@tinodeblier5694
@tinodeblier5694 Жыл бұрын
I have a OG M2 and i love it! The M2 with S55 sounds not so good, and it's almost 100kg more in weight, crankhube failure maybe possible, the N55 is more lineair in powerband than the S55, OPF filter kills the exhaust sound also.
@akiapruitt
@akiapruitt Жыл бұрын
Factory wheel set looks better! E88's have an ugly concave
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
I used to think this, but now I disagree
@billymania11
@billymania11 Жыл бұрын
LOL! The new M2 is gonna put the whammy on the S55 M2's. I own the OG M2 so it's no sweat off my brow.
@smitty_schmitz
@smitty_schmitz Жыл бұрын
Ugh yes…. E88’s 🤤🤤🤤🤤
@cod44449
@cod44449 6 ай бұрын
The newer one is heavier and i rather have a lighter more na feeling turbo engine instead.
@user-gl5ld9vm7i
@user-gl5ld9vm7i Жыл бұрын
Wow. You look do different without the beard. New look
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Haha it will be back in 2 days
@briandiaz5591
@briandiaz5591 Жыл бұрын
S55 M2 all day!
@teecchnoboy
@teecchnoboy Жыл бұрын
N54
@joewesc4991
@joewesc4991 Жыл бұрын
BMW does everything right.. just never in 1 car. I want the N55 sound with an M2c body and the s58 powerplant. In a perfect world I guess
@IronPickle420
@IronPickle420 Жыл бұрын
N55 sounds amazing, but is the most finicky out of all the FI i6 engines bmw makes as far as how it performs when tuned up. Performance ceiling isn't the highest either
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
True
@micraw714
@micraw714 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I think the M2 version is a bit more solid though with the forged S55 components, increased cooling, etc. They definitely need their fuel though, and the stock turbo is crazy limited.
@V3LOCITY__
@V3LOCITY__ Жыл бұрын
@@micraw714 you can make near 600whp on stock S55 turbos and do mid 5 100-200kmh. I wouldn’t say they’re limited
@micraw714
@micraw714 Жыл бұрын
@@V3LOCITY__ for sure, you can squeeze quite a bit out of the S55 twins! I was saying that the N55 stock turbo is very limited.
@anthonyb2990
@anthonyb2990 11 ай бұрын
I just don't see it, $20k for 40 more horsepower doesn't seem worth it to me, especially if it's a dd and not going to be tracked.
@renaldomariano8612
@renaldomariano8612 7 ай бұрын
With the OG M2 I doubt I'd miss the bit of extra performance most of the time. I know for sure I'd appreciate the sound all the time. If I can just get my hands on those seats tho...
@defyyourlogic487
@defyyourlogic487 2 ай бұрын
Tune and exhaust and you’re pretty much there anyway
@rubenbenny2671
@rubenbenny2671 Жыл бұрын
I disagree I believe the only reason to get the s55 is having twin turbos, because the n55 can make 500+whp and that’s more than enough for the chassis, especially if you’re tracking it
@kaiichinose9590
@kaiichinose9590 20 күн бұрын
I agree. My m2lci 6spd makes 625whp. It really wasn’t that hard to make either. Pure 750 turbo, fbo and upgraded hpfp/lpfp on e50. I make around 520whp on 93oct. The m2 in any form is not meant to be a qtr mile drag car and you can make as much hp as your wallet can afford. It’s just as expensive if not more to make 600whp on an s55 (while still sounding like shit). I’d only do an s55 if I were going to top mount single turbo it or buy an m2cs and leave it stock because that doesn’t sound too terrible.
@garchomp889
@garchomp889 Жыл бұрын
S55 power but n55 sound, why do they just sound so bad lol
@strongerandwiser2023
@strongerandwiser2023 Жыл бұрын
Why do people want to mess with the m4 GTS and remove the CCB's, cage and all the other amazing bits it comes with. Those BBS wheels aint worth losing the ceramic brakes for and personally I think the cars better left for what it is. You might aswell buy a stock M4 and tune it to how you want it. Why spend all that money on a GTS when all your going to do is remove everything that makes it great.
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Track focus really, CCB's make no sense if you are seriously considering tracking your car. Unless of course you want to overpay for braking everytime you eat up your CCBs. They just arent logical for track guys, and quite unnecessary. A friend of mine tracks his GTS regularly, like its only a car he uses on the track and he has configured an already fantastic track car into an even better one. All of this comes down to money and preference and at the end of the day, that is what these cars were made for. Not to sit in a garage somewhere. As for the cage, I dont have an answer but the previous owner removed it long before I bought it, is what it is.
@IIlVipeRlII
@IIlVipeRlII Жыл бұрын
E88s so ugly please no
@mikelvn5410
@mikelvn5410 Жыл бұрын
Truthfully if your not gonna go for s55 m2 you might as well get the 235i then you can also get 240i b58 around 50k new and awd. But b58 m2 would have been the way to go like you said
@yorky501
@yorky501 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you put the original rims back on the car and see how they look and ask the internet?
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Hell nah lol
@yorky501
@yorky501 Жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips well you are looking at putting rims that are a little similar to the OEM ones!!!!! 😂😂😂
@sundaydrive7695
@sundaydrive7695 Жыл бұрын
Pick the car you want and then get the newest model with the lowest mileage you can afford!
@pressplay04
@pressplay04 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned every iteration of the m2. The S55, even in stock form, is just in a different league vs a tuned n55. And please stop with the sound argument, it’s bullshit. Do people really say the CS sounds bad? But I really love all m2’s regardless and have respect for any m2 owner bc they are *usually true enthusiasts.
@tigeralpha1480
@tigeralpha1480 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@maxf4275
@maxf4275 Жыл бұрын
Yess the sound is simply not comparable with the N55, be honest..
@MumenRider78
@MumenRider78 Жыл бұрын
@@maxf4275The N55 doesn’t sound good to me but I have an S65. I’m currently m2 shopping and I’ve accepted that neither sound good.
@maxf4275
@maxf4275 Жыл бұрын
@MumenRider78 I have a n55 and lord it sounds good, not too loud though .. But it doesnt have opf and shit like the new engines. Throw an m performance exhaust on it, your neighbors are gonna hate you 🤣
@ncvwrx2759
@ncvwrx2759 Жыл бұрын
Man, you talk so much about the m4 in this video i went to another video. Try to stay on topic.
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын
Lol
@antoniosandoval4369
@antoniosandoval4369 Жыл бұрын
I think he’s wrong, you can easily achieve s55 numbers with a stage 2 tune, and surpass s55 numbers by a lot with a pure stage 2 turbo upgrade, and why would anyone want over 550whp in a f87 chassis, also the s55 is not more reliable than the n55. With 8k worth of upgrades you have the perfect balanced f87 in the n55. Getting an s55 for 20k more and then tuning it for 8k more to achieve 750whp makes absolutely no sense for that chasis. Specially because it’s a rwd car. You won’t even win roll races because of the lack of traction. The M2 is a drivers car the type of car you enjoy in the canyons or track. It’s not engineered for 750whp
@V3LOCITY__
@V3LOCITY__ Жыл бұрын
N55 does no where near S55 numbers. Stage 2 tune on pump fuel it’ll do just under stock S55 numbers realistically. The stock turbos on S55 make more power than Pure Stage 2 N55
@antoniosandoval4369
@antoniosandoval4369 Жыл бұрын
@@V3LOCITY__ nobody is arguing power delivery and potential between n55 and s55 here. Everything is well aware that the s55 delivers much more hp, but again why would anyone who genuinely understands the dynamics and engineering of high performance vehicles and driving increase there f87 platform and chasis to 700whp?? M3 and m4 aren’t even adequate enough to genuinely make use of such high numbers 🤦‍♂️. To make it simpler yes the s55 has more power potential, but the n55 is the perfect engine for the f87 platform and chassis. And no a stock s55 is not more powerful than a stage2 pure turbo upgraded n55. A pure turbo n55 engine can easily put down 550whp 620bhp pretty reliably
@ryan2k814
@ryan2k814 6 ай бұрын
@@antoniosandoval4369exactly
@defyyourlogic487
@defyyourlogic487 20 күн бұрын
20k for 40 hp and more weight lol no thanks
@rubenbenny2671
@rubenbenny2671 Жыл бұрын
First
@hellohunter8583
@hellohunter8583 Жыл бұрын
As someone who currently has an M2 competition, The m2 competition is hands down the much better car. drove both, N55 cant make power for shit, and its gonna run you around 10,000 in mods to push over 600
@defyyourlogic487
@defyyourlogic487 2 ай бұрын
Replace m2 comp with G series M2 and replace N55 with your car and we got the same argument.
@drew6391
@drew6391 Жыл бұрын
Honestly you pay for what you get. M2 is a base model, base seats, base steering , base suspension, base brakes. It’s still an actual M car so it has upgraded engine components compared to the n55 on a regular base model car. The M2 Competition is a different league, capable of more, better engine, better steering , better brakes and seats. Overall better. You pay for what you get.
@defyyourlogic487
@defyyourlogic487 20 күн бұрын
The suspension is the same. Why do M2Cs owner try so hard to feel justified lol
@lucyferr5571
@lucyferr5571 Жыл бұрын
Totally disagree
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