naihanchi - shinzato katsuhiko

[@toniomendoza736]

Found this, a post from 10 yrs ago. The value of these archive postings are evident when such good ones show up. An Excellent demonstration and teaching aid done by a far above average player. Thanks for the posting.

[@phunklow]

The best hard soft example i have ever seen. Please everyone save a copy so future generations can see. Amazing!

[@lojeso]

you should also notice the when he was going slow he was lifting his feet, more old traditional, you see student do it but they dont know why, its to show the transfer of weight. its again a training tool, dont get stuck in just one way, when he show the faster version the feet are closer to the ground and he is transferring his weight into the next move.... so when you practice, go slow, make big moves then whittle them down as you go faster

[@Kyoshi71]

Absolutely Phenomenal

[@auriga914]

I have read his report about karate. He explains kata should evolve according to his/her progression. He compares kata to handwriting. The 1st rigid way is square style. This form is what we normally see and 1st we learn at school. The 2nd is semi cursive style(what he is dong in this video clip at full speed). We can still read it as naihanchi. Lastly, it's a cursive style and it's somewhat hard to imagine what the original form looks like. He says in the report, kata can finally be accessed only if it's at semi-cursive level or higher. When you write your name in cursive style the letters maybe all connected. And your handwriting may look different from others. But he says it's OK as long as you have gone through the square style then semi cursive style.

[@thecontemplative2]

@karatekid68 Actually, that is easily the most sophisticated use of pelvic rotation and hip movement I have seen. Not only is it NOT wrong, it is very very advanced. Of course, if you want to post a video of you doing the kata the "right" way, I'd love to see it. In any event, it is very far from wrong indeed.

[@Aridzonan13]

Behold the internal art. Domo for posting these very important series of forms. I would love to see him do the traditional Kotekitai(sp?) arm / leg conditioning with a partner..

[@Koryuhoka]

That elbow/slap vibrated in the room. Just awesome.

[@thecontemplative2]

I noticed this as well. There is the horizontal pelvic rotation which similar to what you guys do, but there is also the "internal" vertical rotation. This struck me as the most sophisticated koshi use I've ever seen. Shinzato shinshi's speed and power strongly reinforce this impression.

[@ozsamurai1392]

this is what the word AWE some was invented for,　見せてくれたどうもありがとうございました。

[@toxi87]

love how his hips don't rotate but the wave really cool. The hip vibration is awesome.

[@ronin752]

@uminchu7th That is what is called advanced timing. If you noticed, he did it both times that he did the kata fast, but not slow. This is a sign that this is a Sensei with a higher understanding of the kata.

[@Bob3CA]

Thank you for allowing us to view you. An excellent way to learn and practice.

[@SheepDogKombatives9604]

Speechless, would not want to take a strike from this guy.

[@NaihanchinKempo]

they also have joint lock (tuite jitsu) in them as well

[@phoenixzion82]

I train in this Sensei's style. Under one of his students here in the US.

[@bbuddyy1]

Very informative! Naha te considers Sanchin to be the essence of Karate, while Shuri te considers Naihanchi. In this terrific demonstration the use of the tanden shows the unifying element in both traditions. Sensei is very generous in his revelation."The good student needs only one corner to know a triangle." Thanks for the post.

[@KyoshiKarlKWagner]

@uminchu7th , this is the understanding of 'zen-dachi'. Stances are merely transitional as they vehicle the techniques of karate. When executed in proper katamari bunkai, hand and foot will often blend in the unison of execution.

[@carlosnantara5609]

this karate is not sport karate. this is real budo(武道).

[@イーさん-h2y]

何度見ても、凄すぎて、圧巻‼️

[@carlosnovais7059]

Thanck's a lot Master ! great tecnic and perfect moviments ! your friend brasilian !

[@yongdon6165]

wow respect.that was power.

[@ptboyindenver]

Ummm, I've been doing Shotokan for 37 years and have never trained in another style. His hip movement is NOT wrong, just so very advanced that it's difficult to understand. This video is worth studying. Also, any Shotokan student would benefit from checking out how the Matsubayashi Ryu people move.

[@MrBeiragua]

That was awesome! The only way I can discribe what I saw is that "his performance transformed from karate to quan fa during the video!"

[@gojumaster]

Interesting motion study.

[@oilkros]

"練る"為のナイハンチ。 勉強になります。

[@c0402]

closest thing to the real naihanchi that ive seen online

[@falkschiffner6565]

wow!

[@jdtwk123]

Naihanchi footwork is subtle but very powerful and advanced footwork, once one understands its application. Different schools teach different versions of naihanchi, but the footwork is superior to many systems and other katas, even within karate. I have some opinion on this shown version,but that is irrelevant. The naihanchi step-across gives great defense and positioning against a variety of offensive moves.

[@TheShorinkenpo]

Very Nice!

[@somebloke13]

Outstanding!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@lojeso]

@uminchu7th ; diffidently did not "goofed" you should be able to practice it both ways... dont think of a kata as "you can only do one way and that the only way", the kata is a tool, the technique is with in. a block may be a strike and a strike may be a block, not one rule applies, never limit your self to one technique

[@salvatoreplacidoplumari3840]

an incredible stamina and controll! My best wishes for you, Sensei. Toshihiro Oshiro is my grandmaster, we are all one:))

[@karateusa1]

the next generation of kenkyu door is open -

[@bartslaman]

nice grappling skills

[@Loptr177]

Please, could you enlighten the rest of us how you know what "the real naihanchi" is?

[@uminchu7th]

It's called screwing up because of he camera. If he was going the tempo he naturally does it, he 'd have done it correctly. Enough of the yakity yak, I've lived in Okinawa over 30 yrs and seen masters make these little errors consistently, it comes with age. Everyone goofs, everyone is human. Look at him on 2:38, he almost forgot the next move. He is one of the highest skilled shorin ryu men I know, but a camera in your face can mess you up guys.. stop "godifying" the masters, they're human.

[@KOTR2003]

Ok, so all the slow versions, when the second step landed the block was performed, but at full speed he blocks before the first step is even done...

[@DoctorShaft]

So what? If you just evaluated his technique based on whether he perfectly followed the pattern, as if this were a dance routine, there minus "points", then you've entirely missed the point. The man's body mechanics are off the charts.

[@evangodbee2425]

He is demonstrating that the kata can be interpreted and performed in different ways. The purpose of the kata after all is to teach us applications for combat, not for rigid performance of a pattern

[@KOTR2003]

Evan Godbee The point of a kata is to do it in order. Deductions would be made in a competitive environment if you do them out of order.

[@evangodbee2425]

+KOTR2003 um this is not a competitive environment, it's a demonstration at a karate dojo. And no the point of kata is not simply to do the techniques in order. That is a very low level understanding of karate. The point of kata is that it contains a plethora of combat skills. One who has studied for years realises that in application they need not always be performed exactly as they are in traditional kata. It's techniques for combat, not a robot dance

[@KOTR2003]

Evan Godbee But for a teaching resource you need to give proper information. With your logic a school teacher can give misinformation and still be doing their job properly.

[@ronin752]

@Shoreihito I have heard of advanced timing, but never heard of katamari bunkai. Is this an Okinawan concept? If and when you chose to answer, I would rather do this to my comments board as oppose to the more public forum.

[@uminchu7th]

He goofed at time-2:31, he did the block while legs still crossed.

[@areitomusic]

I know your comment is 12 years old, but that is not a goof. That is the result of knowing the way kata is done out of the public eye. If any goof, it would be doing that rhythm in public, on camera. I'ts likened to how Oyata Sensei's senior most students do Naihanchi, in example - Peter Polander's video Naihanchi.

[@Kyoshi71]

@karatekid68 Go back to Tae Kwon Do. His "koshi" is perfect.

[@kzmars]

okinawaBBTVの動画と少し趣が変りましたね。

[@karatekid68]

@Kyoshi71 I am shotokan body

[@karatekid68]

wrong use of his hips.... sorry but the hips work in the wrong way!!

[@小沼浩一]

全体的に腰を切り過ぎて見苦しい。 カギ突きにまで大袈裟に腰を使っているが、あれは意味無し。実際に拳速は速くなっているが体重は乗っておらず、あれでは腕のみの力しか出ていない。 腰入れがあまりにもオーバーで下品に見える。 技の節目節目に“決まり”が無く流れ動作になっている事でダラダラ見える。 裏拳はなかなか良く、効きそうである。 内受け・下段払いのフォーム、及び動作位置は非常に良い。 運足もキビキビしており優良。 但し、波返しに難点が有る。軽過ぎるし極めて遅い。まるで余り物かのよう。 更に肘打ちの方向が顔向き角度も含め不明瞭である。あれはどちらに打つのか?前の敵か?横の敵か?斜め前の敵か?はっきりされたし。 鉄騎を称するなら大きな動作で良いが、ナイファンチならば小さな素速い動きに一つ々々体重を乗せる事がポイント。 ナイファンチの動作は『重く小さく鋭く』が重要。 これなら私が見るに75点〜85点位か。 泊手ならばニ段程度。 ナイファンチだけは毎日稽古しても決して終わりが無い事を深く心得るべし。 無礼はお詫びする。 悪しからず。

[@tebiti1234]

あんた全然分かってないな。

[@oilkros]

最後までご覧になってないのでは…？

[@hzjk8182]

ガマクチンクチアテファーの解説がわかっていないよーきみは？

[@itten1958]

批評する前に自分の動画出されては 如何でしょうか（笑）

[@hirovist6250]

上から目線で偉そうなやつだな。お前はどのくらいナイファンチができるのか。お前が下品で口だけだ。泊手と比較しているところから泊手の門下なら面汚しだな。

[@ВасяВасильев-д9й]

Это что за пантомима?

[@somebloke13]

One you clearly don't understand...

[@ВасяВасильев-д9й]

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