NAM Captures Are Most Accurate?

[@blessedheavyelements8544]

Just found your channel from a recommendation from a friend specifically about NAM and Dimehead content. Great video and lots of hard work! Best Regards and Best Wishes!

[@guitarologist5703]

Absolutley love my Dimehead Pedal and the pedal is made very well, if you buy one you wont be dissapointed.

[@StudioAmpCaptures]

Sounds great! NAM Is Awesome!

[@Michael.debruyn]

And for those who dont know NAM is free open source - the dimehead is a cool pedal tho.

[@rabplaysguitar]

It sounds great though the CPU hit is huge and starts to have a negative impact on latency on my 2019 Intel iMac. This pedal might just be the solution 😁

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

Yep! that's the great thing about open source projects. Steve's given examples of how to build a plugin, how to build a trainer etc... and now others can make use of those and turn them into fully fleshed out products that are more suitable or user friendly for specific workflows. Case in point, the Dimehead NAM Player. A perfect example of how open source projects can change the world of technology for the better.

[@molochfrolics8443]

​Increase buffer close browser, in using a 2013 laptop and nam sounds perfect. Can't use extra FX... But it works!​@@rabplaysguitar

[@lesstalkmoretone3274]

I played this at Jarrod’s house and it truly is the most amp like capture device yet.

[@mikec8815]

@lesstalkmoretone3274 these are going to be like cell phones. Every year there will be a better one. If we have to run tests to tell them apart then there is no difference.

[@BradRocker]

Man I am so loving my new Ultimate IR Pack I just got. So Good. Hopefully you'll have a NAM amp pack soon.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@BradRocker thank you so much! I'm so glad you're enjoying the impulse responses. I will definitely be working on an amp pack very soon for this unit. For now, the sample pack is on my website for only five bucks. It's definitely worth it

[@BradRocker]

@@TONEWARSgearshow Awesome ! Thx You think those will be compatible with the NAM plugin ?

[@niallstewart109]

Those are some really good captures. downloaded them n had a play with them already \m/ thanks for creating them always wanted to try the splawn.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you very much. I'm glad you like the captures. There will definitely be more to come in the near future.

[@jamproject9]

Getting one of these now , killer demos as always💪👊

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@jamproject9 thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed the demo

[@milankotevski1663]

Sounds amazing.

[@paulbradshawguitar]

I've been really impressed with NAM so far, the capture process is more involved (than say Tonex or Nano cortex) but the results are hard to beat, you can get way more scientific and controlled with NAM than the others, and it's still being improved, very curious to see if more hardware units appear in the future

[@adilO.o]

I am so happy to see you making profiles for NAM !!! I can’t wait to try them this evening 🤘 May I please ask you for the dBu of these captures that I can adjust the input gain. I have found this parameter to play a huge role in how NAM captures plays. Thank you and many greetings from Germany

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you so much. Sorry for the late reply. Are you using them on the dime head pedal? If so, I turned the input gain up to 6. 4

[@mattvdh]

Very cool man, ya I've been into NAM since it came out, it's legit. I'll grab those NAM captures tomorrow, thanks man!

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you!

[@TudorAdrian]

NAM is great. Does take a bit more to get the hang of it but if you put the time in, the rewards are 100% there. You can go even lower than 0.012 etc. with some tweaks.

[@scottyknows]

Alot of options these days for profiles/captures. Thanks for all the demos. The IR pack is killer!

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@scottyknows thank you!!

[@jarredbaca8112]

You should totally do a video comparing this capture accuracy to the quad cortex and tonex, apologies if you have already I’m just discovering this channel

[@mikec8815]

Next year the capture devices will be more accurate than the amps.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@mikec8815 anything's possible at this point.

[@steveo4253]

🤣

[@RunawayThumbtack]

You joke, but if you record the same signal through an amp twice, there will be differences. Checking how accurate the amp is "to itself" by comparing the recordings is a way to check for possible issues (e.g. you started recording before the amp finished warming up) or "data quality" in general :) It also means that there's a number to beat--so in a sense, "more accurate than the amps" can be a real thing!

[@enggiovane]

Kkkkkkkk

[@1Guug]

@@RunawayThumbtackat this point it’s just stupid. Every capture device is accurate enough to be honest. It’s now at the same stupid shit they have with latency that it has to be lower and lower meanwhile a cab on stage has 3ms latency every meter and you never felt a problem live did you ?

[@KaddysJamKave]

Can't even find the NAM player in Oz. Darn.

[@metalceesie219]

i only wish it had a stereo output...

[@Brent-Nelson68]

I'm wondering if you could run this thru a Quad Cortex or other modeler and use it's stereo effects and have it be stereo?

[@hanovergreen4091]

Just purchased your $5 pack. Will rock later :) If possible, Can you do a post quick compare of charts between TONEX and NAM? If you already have or are planning to do. I use NAM on an iPad and it, and TONEX, sound great. Thank You for the hard work and all the time it took to do this. Best Regards and Best Wishes!

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you very much. I hope you enjoy the captures. To your question, I know the graph works with the Nam stuff but I'm not sure if it works with tonex. I'll have to look into that.

[@thaile4417]

Can you explain the charts a bit? What do the x-axis and y-axis represent? What does ESR stand for? Is this an industry standard way to evaluate amp profilers?

[@b1gnutt]

It's the axis of endless marketing

[@Brent-Nelson68]

@@b1gnuttBULL SHIT.

[@RunawayThumbtack]

Hi! Steve here (I wrote NAM). The horizontal axis is time, and the vertical is amplitude. You're basically looking zoomed in at a snippet of a waveform like you'd see in a DAW where the original and the model predictions are overlaid on each other. E.g at 2:45, you can see the numbers go from 0 to 1000 on the horizontal axis. That's in samples, so 48,000 is 1 second of audio, and one cycle of a wave at 48 Hz would span the whole plot. Orange is the recording, and blue is what the neural network model predicts it's given the same input (DI) signal as what made the recording. If they overlap, then the model is making the same sound as the recording. At the top, it says "ESR=0.01293", which you can basically take to mean that the prediction error is 1.293% as big as the signal (ESR="Error-signal ratio")--so, in a sense, you might say this model is "98.707% accurate." This is a fairly standard way to evaluate accuracy--folks have adopted ESR as a way to report on modeling accuracy in research papers on the subject. It also happens to be related to null test, if you've seen that get talked about: roughly, the loudness of the null test (in dB) is the logarithm of the ESR. Hope that helps!

[@Capitan_Chaos]

@@RunawayThumbtack Nice explanation. Just wondering, how did you get into doing this stuff? I'm working towards a computer degree and this stuff seems so cool to me as I am a musician too.

[@RunawayThumbtack]

@@Capitan_Chaos I started doing research in ML for scientific applications after going to school for mechanical engineering. So NAM isn't quite the sort of way I use ML in my career, but it was a fun way to bring it to my hobbies as a musician 🙂 There's a lot of interesting subdisciplines you can touch by doing something like NAM--machine learning, real-time/embedded systems, etcetc. It's honestly really cool how much breadth it can span. I know folks who have done senior projects with NAM as well. Since it's open source you might consider having a look in case it might be useful if there are any projects in your curriculum you could use as an excuse to get into it.

[@needsLITHIUM]

You can make NAM profile captures of just a cab and mic. They're called quantum cabs. There is a company called Neutron Studios that is selling a huge batch of them, and they have a small pack you can get for free. Also, NAM is free and open source, under the MIT License. There are several free and VERY cheap paid plugins that can load NAM profiles in a DAW, including the original NAM VST plugin, Tonocracy, Audio Assault Amp Locker, NAM Universal, and Ratatouille LV2. I know the developer of NAM IRL, he lives not too far from me in the PNW. He deserves the rep & support, and he's not making any money from NAM by his own choice, based solely on principle (he works as an engineer, and lives in a fancy ass place in an expensive downtown area, ergo "I don't need it").

[@ToneChasing1]

In your opinion is this way better than the tonex? Thanks

[@PippPriss]

The ToneX is already good, so way better might be exaggerated. But NAM Player definitely is the better unit overall, more flexible. If you wanted to get the same out of ToneX like out of the NAM Player, the cost deficit will quickly become non existent.

[@IntoTheTroid]

Would love to hear a comparison of the NAM captures and Nano Cortex. Basically do the same studio/direct captures with the Nano as you did with the NAM!

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thanks for commenting. As soon as I get the Nano cortex, I will do that

[@IntoTheTroid]

@@TONEWARSgearshow I’ll be waiting 😁

[@8KilgoreTrout4]

Glasses on, Jarrod means business!

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Haha, Nerd Mode Activated

[@Guitarist1z]

Can it run two models in parallel?

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

No. You can run two models in series (eg. pedal > amp).

[@ValiRossi]

Can you even buy that unit? I can't find it on the major retailers.

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

yes - it's available to purchase directly from dimehead's website.

[@ValiRossi]

@@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs Ok, thanks. Amazing how many products we have to choose from.

[@joelbest8525]

How long does it take to arrive?

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

Delivery times are usually up to 10 days at most, depending on where you are ordering it from.

[@ShreddingFinn]

I'm going to start messing with this, free player and all you need is a good capture?

[@steveareton697]

Software program for computer = free. He's playing through a Dimehead pedal (obviously hardware) which is something like $650-$700ish, IIRC.

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

@@steveareton697 $500 + tax + delivery ... so a little less that that usually.

[@guitartoneSA]

I've never understood the accuracy obsession with guitarists. If you took the same amp and your guitar into three different studios and asked the three engineers to setup the amp, mic up the amp their way using their favourite mic's and record some audio samples....go home listen to the various clips from each studio and the same amp using the same guitar will sound very different from each studio. So you wouldn't know what's most accurate, all that's important is which of the three different recorded tones do you prefer. So with all the current digital Profiler/Capture boxes most important is how they feel under your fingers, does it feel like you're playing a tube amp.

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

Whilst that is true, all engineers and guitarists have different tone preferences, the great thing about the Dimehead is that it has a latency of 0.5ms... this is more like playing through a real amp and is better than other digital modelling products currently available, and is why it makes so much sense for practise or playing with live on stage.

[@PippPriss]

Perfect example of constructing an argument, which contradicts yourself. The fact, that each engineer using the same equipment but sounding very different is exactly true in that sense for any player as well. Every player will have their individual preferences, and since the equipment is all the same, the nuances are contributing way larger than one would think. So having a unit which replicates that tone to its very best is absolute crucial. If you use modelers,.you are basically striving to find also such perfect replication, but the tone you have in mind is exactly to be found there: in your mind, and you are sculpting it toward that reference.

[@aivoryuk]

In machine learning you don't look at something to determine whether it is accurate - you use maths

[@jannatinkarlen8702]

I think tonex and nam are not accurate. Nam is even worse than real amp, tonex is a little better. Cab is where the most of the sound come from, and ir and miced capture just doesn't cut it man. They sound flat and less dynamic, it frustrates me, hours of tweaking don't make any difference, when I mic real amp with sm 58 then it sound amazing in no time. So sad real gear are so expensive

[@benburnett8109]

The Greater Wax Moth has the most sensitive hearing on earth. Did you do your due diligence and have the Greater Wax Moth test the accuracy of the profiles? If not, then this whole video is just over inflated hyperbole. Also, Beluga whales have very sensitive hearing. I don't suppose you tested these using a Beluga whale? Without using the land and sea versions of the "Best Hearing" we have no real measurement to see if these profiles are as accurate as the real amp.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@benburnett8109 I'm charting a submarine next week to let the beluga whales hear it. I'm also looking and dense forests for that moth so he can hear it as well

[@MatthiasBuesing]

Best and most impressive video I've seen on a NAM tone, thanks a lot! I purchased your 5$ pack immediately and I think it sounds great, by far the best capture I ever used with NAM. Still I think that my Fractal does sounds better, with better response and richer overtones. The captures in your pack are unboosted, right?

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you very much for commenting and for purchasing the pack. I'm glad you like them. To your question, the captures are not boosted. If you boost them they will feel more responsive and much better in my opinion.