Which pitches are your favorites? Do you have any of your own that you'd like to see?
@Jayk1293 жыл бұрын
What if the Snappening was backwards. In other words what if the people who were safe and the people who were dusted was flipped around. One big thing is that presumably the snapped wouldn’t have been gone for 5 years. I imagine Hank, Janet, and Hope would have figured the time travel use of the Quantum Realm out much quicker than Scott did alone.
@daelenstonemeier4903 жыл бұрын
What if pietro survives an Wanda dies?
@gentlemansoup3 жыл бұрын
What If Thanos built this in a cave with a box of scraps - Obadiah Stark
@monkeyvszombies3 жыл бұрын
#36 is your best idea.
@Cvr5ta0ywa3 жыл бұрын
What if the warriors three protected Jane foster from Malekieth or what if warriors three train to protect the nine realms from Malekieth to start the War of the realms, or what if the warriors three are the generation guardians of the ether and keep balance of the realms from being disrupted from the Dark Elves. Or what if the warriors three protect the tree of life from Malekieth.
@erikm83733 жыл бұрын
One small change for #41 Ronan doesn't just ignore Peter trying to distract him with a dance off, he absolutely destroys Peter in the dance off, then destroys Xandar
@archiethomas39113 жыл бұрын
and then it becomes a contest across the universe to see who an dance the best
@AntonioCardenasT3 жыл бұрын
@@archiethomas3911 Gamorra goes looking for Kevin Bacon at the star abd he shows up at the end to save the day.
@osmanyousif78493 жыл бұрын
@@archiethomas3911 , Zemo or Hammer?
@archiethomas39113 жыл бұрын
@@osmanyousif7849 probably hammer
@Zer0ne-Infinite3 жыл бұрын
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT
@LucasPucas3 жыл бұрын
I would love an episode of Wandavision where Wong has to break Dr. Strange out of Wanda’s mind control because Strange thinks he’s in Scrubs.
@todd31433 жыл бұрын
bonus points if he does the dance?
@Zenn_Chan2 жыл бұрын
@@todd3143 NO. I CAN ALREADY SEE DOCTOR STRANGE *IN* FORTNITE DOING THE DANCES I REFUSE TO SEE IT IN CANON MARVEL
@The3gg2 жыл бұрын
I never knew I needed this
@thefunnynamehere2662 жыл бұрын
Or house
@lillianm5023 Жыл бұрын
@@thefunnynamehere266 straight up get hugh laurie to cameo as strange for the episode, pietro switch style, it'd be hilarious
@haldalas3 жыл бұрын
“Give me a car that I can use to destroy Spider-Man” is such a funny quote and automatically made that Sinister Six pitch my favorite
@ghostgabe813 жыл бұрын
Rivaled only by "Justin Hammer built this in a cave!" "I don't think he did."
@basileldho98463 жыл бұрын
This begs for a Fast & Furious crossover
@moanguspickard2493 жыл бұрын
@@basileldho9846 Family six
@LancePuns3 жыл бұрын
“What If the Watcher Constantly Interfered?” Love this idea as a backstory episode to the Watcher, and it’s why he made that rule for himself. Could be really fun to see how it went wrong and why he’s so afraid to interfere in every single episode.
@heavyhitter55383 жыл бұрын
Not just interfering.. maybe that Watcher is also an old man pervert lol.. intimately watchng female superheroes... point where all them got fed up and really formed an all female superhero team against the Watcher😂
@akilamperouge9603 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is why the watcher chose thor instead of ODIN as a guardian of the universe. He wouldve gave Ultron a hard time in combat.
@janbonne3 жыл бұрын
The watcher as a shipper … we gotta have it, shipping episode
@janbonne3 жыл бұрын
Or like the watcher as a Gary Stu
@goose82843 жыл бұрын
@@akilamperouge960 Thor served his own purpose in the Watchers plan, each character served a specific purpose and I'm pretty sure the Watcher says it in the episode Something along the lines of "At first I spent a lifetime looking for one hero, blah blah"
@samrafkin36993 жыл бұрын
What if Thanos showed up in 2012 instead of sending Loki? The Avengers would have to deal with Thanos before they have time to prepare. Fury might have to call in Carol early, Peter Parker would have to grow up in a post-Thanos world, Gamora hasn't betrayed Thanos yet, etc.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
Well if Thanos won in 2012, then Peter would have never even grown up to become Spider-Man, unless it’s just random in each universe
@samrafkin36993 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond I didn't say Thanos would win per se. But if he did, maybe Peter Quill comes back to Earth only to find a smoldering crater?
@kabud77493 жыл бұрын
it would be fun if thanos lost in 2012
@ProtestTheIndie3 жыл бұрын
@@kabud7749 Given that Loki lost because he 'lacks conviction', you'd assume that Thanos with two infinity stones would've won easily.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
@@samrafkin3699 Peter Quill coming back to Earth to learn that it was decimated would be so sad
@blipmachine3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a “What if… there was no alien invasion, domestic terrorism or supervillain origin for an entire year?” We’ll just watch the Avengers chill out, do road trips and explore the best restaurants around the country.
@ArchOfWinter3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a chill, slice of life kind of episode. What if they just show a girls day out of Natasha and Carter? Steve Roger wacky adventure of adjusting to life in modern time? What if the Avengers stopped Thanos on time and Tony gets to raise Morgan and what if Scott get to raise his daughter?
@MFAniki63903 жыл бұрын
I assume that's just everyone's lives inbetween the movies. Like what exactly happens in Tony's life inbetween Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron? Probably not much. But I love slice of life shows so I would love an episode that has six different mini stories that cover what all of the main 6 Avengers do on their days off. Maybe Sam and Steve go to a classic movie screening night, maybe Clint does on a road trip with his family, stuff like that.
@jaydevkharwar38863 жыл бұрын
This is best 😂💯
@elvintran96203 жыл бұрын
Gotta have a beach segment like in anime
@bacsilva3 жыл бұрын
Tony is dead, so they don't have the guy who creates most of the problema...
@holdobot22813 жыл бұрын
I love the Ronin idea, but instead of him just destroying the planet, he actually bets Star lord in the dance off with his sick moves. That would just be hilarious
@sqatch923 жыл бұрын
What if...Ronin Went to Dance School Before Meeting Thanos
@MetalMarauder3 жыл бұрын
now THAT is excellent
@MrJDozzo3 жыл бұрын
You are talking about ronan, ronin is just hawkeye with a bad haircut
@danjohnson15683 жыл бұрын
Lol there's that scene from the gag reel where that exactly happens
@BulldozerHW3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6W9d6Bng7xog68&ab_channel=MarvelUK Just need someone with some vfx experience to edit it into the actual scene
@ellakotter67483 жыл бұрын
Here’s some ideas: -What if Loki was sent to earth with Thor? Odin finds out that Loki let the frost giants into Thor’s coronation and chooses to banish them both. -What if Isaiah Bradley was never captured? -What if Wanda lived during the Salem Witch trials? (The other Avengers can be puritans or something. I just think putting them in different time periods is cool.) -What if Hela was never banished? -What if Gamora’s home was never destroyed?
@akilamperouge9603 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is why the watcher chose thor instead of ODIN as a guardian of the universe. He wouldve gave Ultron a hard time in combat.
@TrevorTheNinja363 жыл бұрын
@@akilamperouge960 because Odin wouldn’t of have alerted ultron like Thor because he would have been a whole lot more cautious than party thor
@ziglaus3 жыл бұрын
What i want to see is What If Issaiah Bradley actually fought back
@jamainegardner41932 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that first one and maybe have a Worthy Loki.
@jamespryor5967 Жыл бұрын
Alternate to your first one: What if Loki was sent to earth instead of Thor? So everything Thor was involved in in canon has Loki instead. Either he messes everything up, or he plays it like Thor does, but it's all part of one long con.
@defenderofminorities30563 жыл бұрын
this show could seriously go on forever and have hundreds of good episodes
@evankauffman21393 жыл бұрын
Not even joking around, that's entirely true- looking back on it, I think that I really underestimated this idea.
@rimurutempest49453 жыл бұрын
Best of all, due to the nature of the What if stories, we can see stories where heroes actually die and have actual stakes, where they can actually lose, those compelling stories that we won’t get from the sanitized and disney-fied MCU
@L4C1D3 жыл бұрын
They could go over like 10 seasons
@narufan9873 жыл бұрын
I just hope they go crazier in the next seasons and don't stay as vanilla as the first one
@OfficialEdwardNewgate3 жыл бұрын
Theres legit infinite possibilities now that i think about it...
@jaycee9453 жыл бұрын
The "What If Toomes stole that stuff?" can be pretty easily explained. Peter listens to Toomes warning in the car and stays at the dance with Liz instead of going off to fight him.
@reeceperry81523 жыл бұрын
Or he just falls off the plane and can’t get back on
@lfnreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@reeceperry8152 I think the other one is more interesting a concept
@da1king0fwakanda563 жыл бұрын
Or Liz curved him, so he never went to her house & met Toomes. 😂
@Cheatster9000x3 жыл бұрын
You really suggested a "What if WandaVision was set in the Wild West" and *didn't* call the town "Wild Westview"
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
What If Wanda liked Hallmark movies more than sitcoms in one I just came up with and love!
@JC_Cali3 жыл бұрын
Or WestworldView? Westview World? Lol
@me300003 жыл бұрын
What if Scarlet Witch was a fan of spaghetti Westerns?
@applepie12723 жыл бұрын
So she watches alot of West movies
@robboyte11013 жыл бұрын
There is really only one "What If...?" that I want to see -- "What if... Zemo died with his family?" Ponder that question. If Zemo had died with his family ("Age of Ultron"), even if the whole Sokovia Accords issue came up, the "Civil War" situation would've been vastly different without Zemo keeping things going to break up the Avengers. The Avengers might survive the whole affair a stronger team, and may even recruit others like Spider-Man and/or Dr. Strange. T'Challa and Killmonger's conflict ("Black Panther") would be quite different since T'Chaka (Wakanda's king) would still be alive. And no doubt "Infinity War" would have a VASTLY different outcome, with the Avengers not being split and a united team.
@K3end03 жыл бұрын
The bigger they are, the harder they fall. What if the death of Zemo tore the avengers apart? Imagine if there wasn't a "zemo scapegoat", Captain and Ironman went full-comic book in a full blown civil war. Nothing to unite them, no "mr stank" phone at the end, they genuinely could not see eye to eye on what on their personal ideologies to what a hero is meant to be. What if this genuine disunity (not Zemo's scheme), and maybe a hero death, tore the earth's mightiest heroes apart so much they werent able to prep a true response for thanos? Who in the universe would step up in their stead? Adam Warlock? Nova? What if the bombings still happened in protest, what if Black Panther went dark and took revenge, how would Killmonger react? And most of all, if there was a hero death, intentional or accidental, which side would be the one to 'go to far'? Is it iron man going too far to be his suit of armour around the world, or Captain american going too far to preserve liberty?
@robboyte11013 жыл бұрын
@@K3end0 More questions to ponder. 👍🙂
@himum34293 жыл бұрын
@@K3end0 Right so sort Marvel pseudo-Injustice I'd be down for that.
@maxhydekyle24252 жыл бұрын
If they did stay together, legends say they would've beaten Thanos. So it would've been cool to see that play out and how it would've worked.
@BubblesZap3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a What If Mysterio succeeded story, where he wins and becomes an Avenger and has to deal with keeping his secret and fighting whatever threats come. Could have some fun stuff to with having to stage the death of another avenger to keep his secret or his lack of true power leading to the Avengers destruction
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
How could he keep his secret for that long?
@pokemonfanmario76943 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond Bigger illusions
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
@@pokemonfanmario7694 Yeah I guess that could work
@BenjaminRodriguezReyes3 жыл бұрын
That's in the video 18:35
@BubblesZap3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminRodriguezReyes I was hoping lol
@shahzebhasan99953 жыл бұрын
One I want to see is "What if Natasha Romanoff became the task master?" She's captured fleeing Budapest with Clint Barton, and he's forced to confront her again years later, feeling guilty about leaving her to die.
@macaemeia1463 жыл бұрын
We need more hakeye So I'm in
@hylianhero19213 жыл бұрын
The producers have said there will be a Black Widow What If so this would be awesome
@CinemaJimmy2 жыл бұрын
Would be better if killmonger became taskmaster
@johngreenaway14723 жыл бұрын
I burst out laughing at “Space Jam with magic” and “What if the Warriors Three Did Something.” Loved all these pitches!
@Zippy_Zero253 жыл бұрын
i think a more dramatic version of the “what if bucky killed tony stark” could arise by tony’s decision to get in the car and go with his parents to the airport, during which, bucky moves to assassinate not just tony’s parents, but tony as well. Tony never would have grown up and the Stark family name would have been lost to history.
@himum34293 жыл бұрын
Or Obadiah would have used it for his own ends.....
@robertchaney27043 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine Jimmy Wu teaching all the sorcerers at Kaemataj card tricks, and all them just going absolutely buck wild for it. Like these guys can bend reality to their will but they’re all just absolutely blown away by his close up manic acts that they make him sorcerer supreme. And eventually he beats Dormamu by tricking him with his magic tricks 😂
@monsieurlefrog87063 жыл бұрын
if executed properly this could be such a fun episode imagine jimmy getting thanos to stop his genocidal plan by guessing the correct card
@TrueZero23 жыл бұрын
All of Jimmy's spells just have a stage magic flair to them, and everyone else just accepts it as part of the bit.
@BraveryBeyond2 жыл бұрын
This needs to happen, if only for the alternate scene where Jimmy bets universal destruction on a card trick, knowing he can rewind time and we just get repeated versions of "Is this your card?!"
@maxhydekyle24252 жыл бұрын
"He must be pulling power from the dark realm. He put the card in my mouth!"
@wingnightbackwards2 жыл бұрын
DORMAMU, what's that behind your ear?
@dianabialaskahansen29723 жыл бұрын
"What if... Jane Foster was a Frost Giant" - A Jotun woman (Jarnsaxa, Thor's lover in mythology?) falls through one of the pathways by accident and ends up on Midgard. Establishing an identity as Jane Foster, she studies astrophysics and in particular the Einstein-Rosen Bridge in order to return home. Jane and Thor ends up falling in love, then Jane reveals her secret, risking her life against the Destroyer. Which is when Thor realize that Jotun are not all evil monsters like he thought and he becomes worthy.
@yousefkaldany27793 жыл бұрын
I would love an episode like that
@nathanhernandez71733 жыл бұрын
That just seems like a more interesting script for Thor rather than a what if
@ziglaus3 жыл бұрын
This doesn't seem interesting at all
@pianist1503 жыл бұрын
"I don't think he did." in the Justin Hammer pitch actually made me laugh out loud
@shivpatel49123 жыл бұрын
So many potential Justin Hammer failing upwards moments: Creates Ultron but Ultron is easily defeated. Accidentally destroys the Quinn jet in civil war so Cap and Bucky can’t escape the airport. Vulture successfully steals his technology but just falls out of the sky because it malfunctions. Makes a bad infinity gauntlet that just explodes when Thanos tries to use it.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
He creates time travel and sends The Avengers back to the prehistoric times when he uses it
@Powerman2932 жыл бұрын
A dark ending to a Hammer failing upwards episode would be that the Hammer Infinity Guantlet intended to bring everyone back fails and destroys Thanos when he tries to use it but that also means half the universe can't come back because it didn't work in the first place.
@brooksbrigmon25333 жыл бұрын
I really want there to be a “WHAT IF Daredevil”, and it was just Daredevil dealing with larger MCU events alongside the Avengers and such after the events of season 3, and they could use it to introduce him in the MCU.
@B8V883 жыл бұрын
They said no new characters in what if
@kylecherpy28423 жыл бұрын
So just a daredevil show
@brooksbrigmon25333 жыл бұрын
@@kylecherpy2842 SEASON 4 PLEASE
@Knowingspy3 жыл бұрын
Obviously people are speculating that Matt is a mystery arm in the Spiderman trailer, but I think they have an Echo series which would be ideal to bring back his character - I think Daredevil has fought with her in the comics.
@brooksbrigmon25333 жыл бұрын
@@Knowingspy That’d be perfect!
@flexa62543 жыл бұрын
29:23 the loki biking race sounds so awesome. The avengers trying to stop him cheating is just ridiculus
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s an even more ridiculous idea than the Party Thor one and that’s why I love the idea! Edit: What if the idea was What If Loki was banished to Earth? Where he falls in love with a boy or girl who loves bike racing so he eventually gets his powers back and cheats to impress him or her
@purplespectre3 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond I really need to see this.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
@@purplespectre Thank you
@Horltum3 жыл бұрын
On the "what if Bucky killed Tony", I think it'd be more interesting if it was "what if Tony went with his parents", where Tony goes with his parents on their christmas trip, and gets killed by Bucky then. It then devolves into the Avengers trying to take down a megalomaniacal Obadiah Stane.
@jlev10283 жыл бұрын
But Obadiah Stane only became so dangerous after he obtained the Iron Monger suit which wouldn't be built if Tony died long before the events of the film.
@Finamajig3 жыл бұрын
You could have Anton Vanko (I think that’s whiplash’s dad) build an Arc Reactor due to a lack of the Starks.
@Etticos.3 жыл бұрын
Was the “Christmas trip” not just the cover that Howard told every one? They were clearly on a mission, there was super soldier serum in the trunk.
@Horltum3 жыл бұрын
@@jlev1028 Yeah, but this is an Obadiah Stane who is now in control of all of Stark Industries. That's more dangerous than him with the Iron Monger suit.
@ivanagustinortiz52373 жыл бұрын
@@Finamajig maybe there, Anton Vanko steps up and takes Howard's place on SHIELD and becoming a partner with Obadiah, then you could delve into the creation of Crymson Dynamo and Iván going through a similar arc as Tony, but him being more emotional could bring different situations into a possible Avengers/Thunderbolts team, with "villains" like Whiplash and Abomination being directed by Ross instead of Fury
@zaxzilla44513 жыл бұрын
I really want a “what if Mysterio was telling the truth” so you have a genuine inter-dimensional hero going to fight big elemental monsters with Spiderman
@Jayk1293 жыл бұрын
I want to see an adaptation of “What If Aunt May Became The Herald of Galactus” so badly. Granted it won’t be possible until the FF are introduced into the MCU. And the premise of her becoming Golden Oldie would work better with a Rosemary Harris (or even Sally Field) version of May as opposed to Marissa Tomei but it would still be awesome.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
Was that something that happened in the comics?
@zoser5953 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond Yes, in the 90's
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
@@zoser595 Why did she become the herald of Galactus?
@meduimrareberries58883 жыл бұрын
I picture Granny Goodness from DC but less psychopathic.
@singrdave3 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond because it was funny
@nickasaro87893 жыл бұрын
The minute you mentioned the Jimmy Woo one, I was like “Yes”. I also love the 1997 Avengers idea.
@94Central3 жыл бұрын
30:23 "If iron man made a bike, it would probably turn evil and fight everyone" is an amazing summary of Tony's character
@BlokHeadAnim3 жыл бұрын
Ooh how about "What if Ultron worked as intended?" Basically if Jarvis successfully rebooted him when he started malfunctioning and Ultron stopped bugging out. He would become the main hero of that world and the Avengers would all be able to retire.
@todd31433 жыл бұрын
i don’t think there would be a story. i mean they just retire
@macaemeia1463 жыл бұрын
Basically
@nochannelmusician769 Жыл бұрын
That’s in the video lol Also it ended up happening in Dr Strange MOM
@Dimensioneer883 жыл бұрын
They absolutely NEED to do "What if Quicksilver survived the Age of Ultron?" The only real reason they killed him was because they didn't have the rights to the X-Men characters at the time, but now they do, so there's no reason NOT to bring him back in some capacity.
@TheEstrellastar3 жыл бұрын
I remember in the early stages of writing infinity war, Sam was gonna go to space with Tony instead of Peter. I think that'd be a cool What if to explore. I remember also reading that in the even earlier stages of writing infinity war the soul stone was gonna be Steve. Like, Steve was the stone itself. That'd be another cool one to explore.
@arturocastroverde33492 жыл бұрын
Sam?? That's weird. It mades more sense for Rhodey going with Tony to space and have a fair fight with Star Lord
@thomasbennett03 жыл бұрын
Luis as Ant Man when Hank: "Your not Scott. Where is Scott?" Luis:" You see that is complicated." Then most of the rest of the episode is Luis' storytelling accept of the end.
@macaemeia1463 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Retro_Red2 жыл бұрын
It's the same as the pitch to Scott, but he just adds the events of the heist and ends with "And then you started talking to me over the radio. "
@trianglemoebius Жыл бұрын
@@Retro_Red I know I'm a year late, but this would be the perfect setup for a shaggy dog story. The entire episode is Luis telling Hank his exaggerated and distracted version of the events, then the last few minutes are him finishing, Hank telling him that's great but he still wants Scott, then the implication that the rest of the events are basically about to unfold as they did in the normal timeline.
@TeralyzedKahen3 жыл бұрын
I see your "What if Wanda was into Westerns" and raise you one "What if Wanda was into Anime". Imagine how great it would be, you could even ditch the original animated style of the show and use other studios to do the hex parts.
@melissaharris33893 жыл бұрын
What if...Wandavision the Musical
@gavinator27303 жыл бұрын
Vision is just a gundam
@lonebattledroid44743 жыл бұрын
That would be so perfect.
@purplespectre3 жыл бұрын
If this happens, we need to see someone run to school carrying toast in their mouth.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec2 жыл бұрын
@@purplespectre So Wanda have a daughter
@DanSan973 жыл бұрын
Some ideas I had: (had these ideas for weeks and haven’t watched the video yet sorry if he says any of them in this 50) *What if… Odin died in 2012?* *What if… Red Skull successfully wielded the Space Stone?* *What if… Rhodey died in Civil War?* *What if… Ebony Maw was the Sorcerer Supreme?* *What if… Odin and Hela collected the infinity stones?* *What if… Tony never recruited Peter?*
@akilamperouge9603 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is why the watcher chose thor instead of ODIN as a guardian of the universe. He wouldve gave Ultron a hard time in combat. what if odin was chosen instead of thor to battle ultron??
@AqwDragulum3 жыл бұрын
@@akilamperouge960 Watcher wanted Party Thor because of his ability to attract unwanted attention. He could’ve gotten Captain Marvel or someone stronger from that universe but he gathered these specific group of people for an outcome he wanted. It’s not that deep.
@Champsr0ck22473 жыл бұрын
@@akilamperouge960 Probably the same reason he chose Captain Carter (a human with above average strength and a shield) and Star Lord T'Challa (a normal human with guns and jet boots) to fight a robot wielding the power of the multiverse that was able to defeat The Watcher in combat. He didn't need to pick the strongest characters out of each universe, else he would have just slapped an army of Captain Marvels with Infinity Gauntlets and let them handle it.
@Toastman30K Жыл бұрын
I remember in one of Overly Sarcastic Productions videos (cant recall which one), Red discussed the idea of Pietro surviving Avengers 2, and she brought up a lot of interesting points like what if he also survived the snap, and remained active with his speed as a peacekeeper, like what Captain Marvel does but just for earth. Then when Endgame happens, low and behold, there's now a 5 year gap between two twins, and it could shake up their relationship
@cicadaplum2 жыл бұрын
The "Mysterio Joins the Avengers" story should revolve around how he is able to turn the public against each Hero who finds him out. Eventually, Hydra takes advantage of the situation and slowly replaces the team with their own line-up, which includes Beck, who ends up getting what he wanted as he is forced to live the rest of his days acting as the "new Iron Man" in the Hydravengers' increasingly dangerous missions.
@HaleysTusk3 жыл бұрын
What if the Phoenix Saga was done well? Hah!
@himum34293 жыл бұрын
Lol what do you think they're stealing from to do Wanda arc for the next 10 yrs 😂.
@HaleysTusk3 жыл бұрын
@@himum3429 Wanda will initiate the coming of mutants to the MCU, the Phoenix Saga is one of Marvel’s biggest stories, they wouldn’t pass it off and will have learned from Fox’ missteps. I expect them to build up to it instead of cram it all into one two hour movie
@himum34293 жыл бұрын
@@HaleysTusk I agree but they are very clearly stealing from it and giving certain story beats to Wanda. They've always had similar characteristics in the comics both of them being mutants who are OP and occasionally unstable. Granted Wanda is often a tad crazier. But nevertheless I hope they manage to do the phoenix saga well this time.
@HaleysTusk3 жыл бұрын
@@himum3429 I disagree other than the over arching theme of an uber powered mutant losing control. The Phoenix saga involved a galactic creature, Warring space powers, sacrifice and mental manipulation/torture. It was much more complex. If you want a closer and abbreviated approximation to an attempt at copying the Phoenix saga, The Umbrella Academy's story w/ Vanya was basically a retelling, especially w/ her father figure trying to suppress her powers to protect her and the universe only for it to go terribly wrong.
@lukedelrosario58813 жыл бұрын
That's not MCU though...
@JosephWolfson3 жыл бұрын
I really want to see a “What If Hulk Stopped Thanos?” The battle with Hulk and Thanos in the beginning of Infinity War ends differently and Hulk takes the power and space stone. Maybe he becomes an Infinite Maestro?
@ItsButterBean10203 жыл бұрын
Alternately What If Hulk went worldbreaker in Endgame?
@todd31433 жыл бұрын
@@ItsButterBean1020 big green yike
@takerhulk3163 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsButterBean1020was hoping bruce was gonna try get rid of the hulk during the 5 yrs and it back fires and using the infinity stones would trigger the change to world war hulk.
@GiubileiFernando3 жыл бұрын
For the Pet Avengerd: They could come up with some mumbo-jumbo to justify Ant-ony having size-changing powers.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they got Spider-Ham for the Pet Avengers episode
@allisonjuno76543 жыл бұрын
what about a bring your pet to work day, and then an accident sends the avengers into the quantum dimesion and the pet-vengers have to save them using their owners powers.
@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully S2 is purely anthological and with different animation styles.
@andymoore88353 жыл бұрын
You’ve made peace with the fact that it will never be that way, right? Because it will absolutely not go that way
@giganticzombie3 жыл бұрын
That's one of my biggest issues with the show, the fact that it all connects. I wish it was purely anthological because they can go wilder, these current episodes feel stifled (except Vision-Ultron.)
@evilotto92003 жыл бұрын
_Star Wars: Visions_ is a thing give it thirty more years
@nicolasbiller74863 жыл бұрын
I can see it becoming actually anthological, but they are most definitely not changing animation styles (maybe rarely, but not to the extent of something like SW Visions or the Animatrix)
Of these pitches, my favorites are The Watcher constantly interfering and Wenwu invading Wakanda. The former would be hilarious, while the latter would just be awesome to watch and would make complete sense.
@TheeGrumpy3 жыл бұрын
If Wenwu invades Wakanda, it could be anytime in the last thousand years. See what Wakanda looked like centuries ago.
@phantomkitten733 жыл бұрын
I think the last 2 or 3 part episodes of What If Season 2 should be "What if... Loki and Sylvie Took Kang's Deal?" I mean, most of that whole episode is a single monologue setting up the 2 options of killing him, or become the new TVA leader. And the hook is the meta-question of how that episode/reality itself is even possible, since Sylvie killing Kang is what created the multiverse in the first place. They're successfully keeping the timeline/universe closed, but yet there's still somebody watching them from another universe that can't exist? The philosophical implications are bursting at the seams.
@Powerman2932 жыл бұрын
Considering how Kang's castle is outside of time and there's a ton of pruning happening, it wouldn't surprise me if other Lokis/Slyvies got to Kang before the ones we see in the show but always took the deal.
@outoftunestring3 жыл бұрын
Love a lot of these, especially the Avenger Mysterio and Thor Kills Thanos ideas. One I've had for a bit, now that we may have the X-Men coming: What If... the X-Men Fought In The Battle of New York? The Avengers get taken out by Loki before the portal is ever opened, and the world gets introduced to Mutants through the battle of New York. The damage to the city is blamed on them, and that leads to Bolivar Trask becoming the next Tony Stark and securing government contracts that would have gone to Stark Industries. Sentinels roam the world instead of the Iron Legion, and Trask and another scientist (Hank Pym?) wind up creating Ultron, who takes over the Sentinels and also decides that Mutants are destined to rule the world and that all humans without the X-Gene must die.
@ThejusRao3 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the whole video yet but one of my most favorite "What ifs?" is "What if Iron Man killed the Winter Soldier at the end of Civil War?". The ramifications for that would be insane, and I would love to see the writers take a stab at that one.
@melissaharris33893 жыл бұрын
What if...Tony accidentally killed Steve in Siberia.
@CGaboL3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of ideas: What if Christine Palmer went to Kamar Taj to help Stephen instead? What if Crocodile Loki? What if Ego stayed on Earth to raise Peter? What if Howard the Duck befriended Groot instead of Rocket? What if Heimdall was worthy of Mjollnir and Thor not?
@aidanklobuchar17983 жыл бұрын
Croc Loki needs to be the villain of the Avengers pets episode.
@cartoon-o-rama10 ай бұрын
Easy! I vote for Howard the Duck and Groot!
@ZeroSanity6263 жыл бұрын
A West wing style episode with Tony Stark/Steve Rogers as the candidates would be incredible
@melissaharris33893 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That's actually the best one as it's already set up.
@valeriedure23412 жыл бұрын
on rewatch just had an idea based on your malekith wins pitch: what if malekith did use the aether to "cover the realms in darkness." the pov character then shifts to someone like blade dealing with the fact that there is no sunlight, vampires can strike at any point
@groundbeef_3 жыл бұрын
Why does number 24 just feel a like a big reference to when Don Cheadle was Captain Planet
@SatchitBhogle3 жыл бұрын
I'm really digging the Wild West hex Avengers. It could be a Western themed cross between that episode of JLU where the psychic kid revives the dead golden age superheroes (and the day is always saved) and Once Upon a Time. Steve Rogers would be the sheriff revived after being frozen in ice during the Revolutionary War, Tony Stark could be a blacksmith and inventor who puts high tech equipment on his horse Jarvis, and Bruce Banner is literally Dr Jekyll.
@J_Tevo3 жыл бұрын
Change to Number 30. Wanda watches spy thrillers, you could then get British actor Paul Bettany playing a Bond type and Elizabeth Olsen as a Bond girl. She's constructed many of the avengers similarly to Vision in Wandavision, so all the gadgets are made by Tony as the stand-in for Q. Black Widow and Hawkeye as the recognizable henchman are constructed due to all of the stories they told her about their missions during her time at the compound, etc.
@rickygillette2093 жыл бұрын
Personally, a what if scenario that I really want to see is What if the snap victims were reversed? In that, what if the 50% who were killed in infinity war survived while the survivors in the main universe were the ones who died?
@silversonome53602 жыл бұрын
10:00 my dude. It's exactly that
@nelsonsamuelsanchez2 жыл бұрын
They lose. Strange saw all possibilities and only 1 scenario wins. If the snap victims are reversed, then that one singular scenario can’t come true.
@lennyhehare4142 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonsamuelsanchez he saw 14,000,605 outcomes, not every single one of them since there’s an infinite number of outcomes
@Cylon963 Жыл бұрын
Hammer failing upward is probably my favorite because the comedy writes itself for an episode.
@skorie61803 жыл бұрын
This is definitely me not letting the dream die, but "what if Wanda grew up with Capcom games / Street Fighter". If we can't get a new MvC game, I'd love an episode based on it
@jamesayewale56952 жыл бұрын
I WANNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE
@TheChrisHype3 жыл бұрын
What If Season Two: “What If Everyone Became Mad with Power?”
@jamiemccreath39593 жыл бұрын
"Everyone vs ___"
@BlokHeadAnim3 жыл бұрын
Ohh yeah, "What If the Avengers Took Over The World?" Injustice style would be sweet
@thekiss20833 жыл бұрын
Everyone vs. Aunt May
@kalexkhan50863 жыл бұрын
You want an MCU version of The Boys?
@jamiemccreath39593 жыл бұрын
@@kalexkhan5086 The Boys is more "What if superheroes were corrupt and monopolized", not "What if superheroes went mad with power", but actually yeah either one of those would be cool to see happen to the MCU
@jayrocket7792 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they did an Eternals What If episode. "What If Ikaris actually became the leader of the Avengers?" "What If The Watcher spoke to Arishem?" "What If Sprite met Loki?"
@ThePonderer3 жыл бұрын
“What If Pangborn became Sorcerer Supreme” is literally an idea I had!
@alexgolden80363 жыл бұрын
I love how even in Nando’s pitches Tony ends up dead almost half the time😂
@arturocastroverde33492 жыл бұрын
Tony topped Loki in deads in the mcu
@LucasHopkins2006 Жыл бұрын
That was basically Tony in What If? anyway, he’s just keeping it going
@EllieMillar-pp7nt3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these are fantastic. You’ve got a great mind, Nando.
@rachelbernatowicz93912 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see "What if Nebula was Thanos's favorite adopted child?" (with her joining the Guardians instead of Gamora) or maybe a reverse of the dynamic in the movies, with Korath and Nebula as Guardians fighting their loyal-to-Thanos sister Gamora.
@yeolelad8882 жыл бұрын
What if Loki won in Avengers? I like the idea of Loki getting what he has wanted and seeing how he reacts
@PQRDG3 жыл бұрын
I feel like there was a lot of GotG-themed possibilities that were missed. Clearly we will be getting something involving Stark joining the Guardians, but what about “What it Carol joined the Guardians of the Galaxy” or “What if the Avengers went to space”?
@himum34293 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with those is they'll likely happen at some point in the mainline mcu and the point of what if is to show stuff we'd never see in the movies in a million years.
@arturocastroverde33492 жыл бұрын
Avengers and Guardians will be pretty cool. That was 50% of my hype for Infinity War and Endgame
@fortunatofernando30513 жыл бұрын
What If... Bucky and Sam were sent by "Fury" to deal with the "Sand Elemental" in Mexico and were assigned to team up with Mysterio?
@crazymoosee3 жыл бұрын
That actually sounds really cool
@Spencisms3 жыл бұрын
51: What if....Hela escaped sooner than expected? Put simply, Hela arrives in Thor 1, and shows the repercussions of her arrival earlier than expected
@LJ-gs8bi3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see What If Zemo activated the other Winter Soldiers. I think it would be cool to see the avengers against Hydra’s elite squad
@MattGOnYT3 жыл бұрын
For the “What if… the villains fought Thanos” idea I think it could be cool of one of the Iron Man (or any other tech based) villains was able to somehow create a robotic body for Tape-Zola, sort of like what happens in the What If Finale but this time Zola still wants to bring back HYDRA, and is more evil. Maybe it could even be it’s own what if, “What if… Zola got a new body” or something like that
@cinemasketch96443 жыл бұрын
i like quite a lot of theses actually, but i feel like some of the would repeat narrative beats. Like the superior iron man one sounds cool, but the surveillance thing is kinda similar to hydras plan in the winter soldier. Still, great vid as always
@aryan77672 жыл бұрын
yeah, similarly mysterio winning and killing avengers would be similar to the episode 3
@GeeGog Жыл бұрын
I just really wanna see more What If...? in general. It's such a great idea with enough creativity and it removes any restrictions the main MCU has as they don't have to worry about messing up anything and can use any character they like. Honestly it's just so fun
@jack_stone13 жыл бұрын
I love that ten rings goes to war with wakanda, it makes sense for him to want to figure how to use that panther realm.
@bretthanna27313 жыл бұрын
I need more of Nando doing this and tier lists. Somehow I just find his ideas endlessly interesting, even if I don't always agree
@Sentinel8513 жыл бұрын
What If... Crossbones released the Biohazard? in Civil War's opening, there's the biohazard scene at the start, and Black Widow catches it at the last second, but what if that got released into the world? Scarlet Witch, Falcon, Captain America, and Black Widow all get killed by the virus, so the Sokovia Accords have very little opposition, so Tony has no reason to recruit Peter (which could lead directly into the "What If... Peter joined Vulture" idea you proposed), there's no reason for Tony to hold back vs Bucky, particularly because Zemo probably reveals it a bit more directly to him, and this would also likely lead to a Tony Stark + Wakanda partnership, so we could get a version of Black Panther where Tony's already partnered with Shuri and Tchala (for a What If... Vision survived Thanos), and developed other tech, but using vibranium
@melissaharris33893 жыл бұрын
I thought that was going to be the premise of the zombies episode.
@arturocastroverde33492 жыл бұрын
I wanna watch that episode. A new marvel zombies inspired by that. With Tony and Vision or Rhodey as protagonist
@skyphlox1933 жыл бұрын
Here's one: What if Bucky's mask never fell off during Winter Soldier and at the end of the movie either Steve kills/captures him or he escapes and then tries to make contact later on? Both could make really interesting episodes imo.
@rhyssmith42183 жыл бұрын
What if Shang-Chi’s mom had a gun. What if shang-chi’s dad kept a few armed guards on the payroll to protect his family.
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
Then Wenwu wouldn’t have wielded the rings again and restarted the The Ten Rings again, and then Tony wouldn’t be kidnapped by them and would’ve never become Iron Man
@rhyssmith42183 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond I’m sure Obadiah would have found another terrorist group to sell stark tech weapons too
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
@@rhyssmith4218 Yeah that’s a fair point
@tawheedhossain932011 ай бұрын
One of his pitches became reality in what if series instead it set in 1980s of todays what if Avengers episode.
@vaggos20033 жыл бұрын
Here are some What if...? scenarios of mine. -What if Captain America wasn't the one who returned the stones? Or what if Captain America didn't stay in the past with Carter? -What if Killmonger was raised in Wakanda? -What if Wanda never messed with Tony's head in the begginning of Age of Ultron? -What if War Machine died in Civil War? -What if T'Challa saved T'Chaka in Civil War?
@samskpopcorner9 ай бұрын
i can’t believe how close your were about the avengers being created in 1997. very similar to the young peter quill episode
@samskpopcorner9 ай бұрын
and also the tour de france with the car racing episode
@NoThisIsAxolotrick6 ай бұрын
Especially with the bill foster goliath thing, there was almost nothing related to him showing up, yet he predicted it
@justanormalhttydfan98043 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a What If where the Avengers are together when Thanos attacks. Maybe Steve signed the Accords, maybe the Accords never happened (and Lagos never happened), whatever, the team just doesn't split. One big change is Steve tells Tony about his parents like, back just after CA The Winter Soldier. So Zemo doesn't succeed, Avengers stay together and face Thanos. Another What If could be What If Howard and Maria Stark never died. So Tony's parents are still alive when Afghanistan goes down (and I'm assuming it'd still go down. Tony would probably be CEO by then as Howard and Maria Stark would be quite old). Or another What If for Tony, could be What If Tony got the Super Soldier Serum. Now this might not make any sense, but remember Howard had those vials of prototype serum in his car. Maybe he survives longer and perfects the serum more, and Tony gets into a near fatal accident (maybe in the end fight of Iron Man 1, Tony is much more injured by Obadiah or something) and someone gives Tony that much more completed serum. Would the serum enhance Tony's intelligence, make him even smarter? Another What If, What If JARVIS had survived Vision's creation? Basically, no FRIDAY, JARVIS is still there into Civil War, Infinity War, etc. And finally, one last What If, similar to your "Bucky Kills Tony in Sibera" one, but this times its Steve with the shield. Maybe it goes too deep into Tony's chest or maybe Steve accidently goes for the neck. Either way, Steve kills Tony and the world finds out.
@LibertyBridgeProductions3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Thor would turn dark if Thor went for the head. But I do think he would still feel empty as he saved the universe but there’s not much in the universe left for him. Would be kind of heartwarming if the story ended with the avengers seeing he was hurting and helped him for it.
@Hawkatana3 жыл бұрын
2:06 I actually had a similar idea for if I somehow ever got to write for Marvel, where it would play on the political differences between the two, and reconciling the ideas between the old America of the 40's & the current US.
@psi_mae2 жыл бұрын
Here are mine: - What if MJ was bitten by the radioactive Spider - What if Thanos snapped himself - what if Bruce Banner could always control Hulk - what if Tony sold Iron Man - what if the Guardians went to Earth - what if it was noir - what if Sam gave up the shield
@gammawolf33 жыл бұрын
Lots of great ideas, I like the Tour De France one the best XD would be really cool if we saw some of these in season 2
@ammaralrai9955 Жыл бұрын
21:11 This one is happening, except instead of the frost giants, they are fighting an Ego powered Quill 24:10 This is also happening, except westerns are replaced with musicals. This seems like the more obvious choice.
@ammaralrai995510 ай бұрын
Edit: I was wrong about the second one
@thewesterj2 жыл бұрын
I still think turning Battlestar into DeathLok would be a genius move to forward John Walker's arc. It's a cool mirror to Cap n Bucky and could be a wedge that breaks him away from the ThunderBolts/Dark avengers at some point. Val would be involved somehow and would be a great addition to the Super Soldier lore.
@Bowman2point03 жыл бұрын
These were all such compelling premises, and loved the focus on characters who MIGHT not have gotten their due diligence in the MCU!
@TheMagmaCartel3 жыл бұрын
"The bike would turn evil and fight everybody" hahaha I chuckled
@marzemd Жыл бұрын
For the Pet Avengers one Throg could also recruit Lucky the dog from Hawkeye. You made this video before Hawkeye released but now that it has Lucky would be a cool addition.
@deonsmith2273 жыл бұрын
One of my ideas that I would love to see is "What If... Thanos Wanted the Ten Rings?"
@cartoon-o-rama10 ай бұрын
"AVENGERS: The Ten Ring War" Coming to Theaters Ne•v•er! 😂
@legosaurg79793 жыл бұрын
For the Pet Avengers episode, instead of just a random ant, it should be the giant ant from the end of the first AntMan movie
@andymoore88353 жыл бұрын
Personally I’d love to see what if wen wu joined the avengers. This can happen in age of Ultron. Lets say some Ultron bots killed his family. Wen Wu then goes for his revenge on the robots and is noticed by the avengers. Some changes to age of Ultron can be both Hawkeye and quicksilver surviving due to some ten rings shenanigans. Then he finds out it’s Tony’s and Bruce’s fault for Ultron and it turns into a ten rings vs the avengers situation.
@stevencisneros930610 ай бұрын
My “what if” ideas/pitches: What if Natasha became She-Hulk during Age of Ultron What if Maria Hill wields Mjölnir What if the Warriors Three survived What if Isaiah Bradley never got arrested and remains active as Captain America What if Pepper Potts became Iron Woman/Rescue instead of Tony Stark What if Liz gets bitten by the spider instead of Peter What if Betty became She-Hulk What if Natasha was abducted by Yondu and the Ravagers What if Loki went to earth with Thor (like taking place in the events of the 2011 Thor film) What if Christine Palmer became Sorcerer Supreme What if Jennifer Walters works for Hydra What if Steve Rogers became Captain Marvel What if the Eternals join forces with Captain America against Hydra What if Natasha was ejected with super soldier serum
@tyrusquiroz88103 жыл бұрын
I personally think an episode with more of Hela would be great. "What if Odin banished Thor instead of Hela?"
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
What if Hela won and fights Thanos
@TRENTMAZING Жыл бұрын
If they did “What if.. The Other Half Got Snapped,” it would be a neat detail if they had the infinity gauntlet on the right hand instead of the left
@bebop49603 жыл бұрын
It'll be kinda cool if season two has darker endings with heroes turning into villans, then they team up to fight the gaurdians of the multiverse
@NoThisIsAxolotrick6 ай бұрын
I had an idea for the "what if jimmy wu went to kamar taj" Jimmy sees scott lang doing the card tricks, asks what he was doing, scott says "i leant magic" and so jimmy wu, determind to do the card trick, travels across the entire planet to learn magic, ending up in kamar taj where he learns magic, only for the episode to end with jimmy returning to ant man and saying "i learnt magic, but i still dont know how to do the card trick, tell me how" and scott says "bro its a card trick, not actual magic" and jimmy does the darth vader "Nooooo" thing as the episode ends.
@ZackBellGames3 жыл бұрын
Love that you took the time to do this, man. Get yourself a gig with Marvel already. You have more than enough material to pitch Ricky or something~
@pupsy24543 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a ruins episode where everyone just has a bad time
@JohnSmith-qy2fh3 жыл бұрын
What if the Writers Treated Everyone like Tony Stark?
@reeceperry81523 жыл бұрын
A bad time, huh? *Megalovania intensifies*
@tavenyoussef2 жыл бұрын
I know this is late, but something I think would be really funny for the Loki wins Tour de France pitch, is that captain America wins the race with loki coming in second, but he fails the Post race drug test and Loki wins by default
@masoncampbell53853 жыл бұрын
For the Erskine one, it would be pretty cool if when Nomad fights the super soldier army, Isaiah Bradley helps him
@Spencisms3 жыл бұрын
For the 31, Quicksilver lives Hawkeye dies idea, I think what could also make that a fun episode was if during Civil War, Wanda takes one side and Pietro takes the other. It'd definitely be interesting to see them both actually come into conflict and have differing opinions, especially when it comes to world safety
@JamesLawner3 жыл бұрын
The Steve Rogers becoming President universe could be a universe where there are no superheroes or monsters or aliens or gods or magic or HYDRA, and it's just everyone being normal.
@colehanover93413 жыл бұрын
Does anyone here know why we won’t be seeing general Ross? Last I checked, William Hurt isn’t cancelled or dead
@thwipkid3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m also curious, I’d think the MCU one most likely is because of his age and William Hurt’s most likely disinterest to play a character like red hulk but outside of the MCU the only 3 things I can think of is possibly A) William Hurt is retiring B) he didn’t enjoy his experience on Black Widow/recent MCU appearances feeling like they’re mostly a waste of his talent and doesn’t want to come back, or C) (and lord I pray not) He’s battling some sort of sickness.
@AllWIllFall2Me3 жыл бұрын
From looking into it, it looks like the problem is potential legal stuff: Technically, Marvel doesn't own the distribution rights for films with Hulk characters. Or, rather, they DO, but Universal owns the DISTRIBUTION rights, which creates a problem, since Disney is now the Distribution Daddy of Marvel Studios. So the only way a new Hulk/Red Hulk movie could be made is if Disney agreed to forego distribution, or if they cut some new deal with Universal. So General Ross can keep showing up in things, but he can't be the Red Hulk without someone paying Universal. (Unless they did a Disney Plus show, since it seems like the TV rights are something different, given that they're making a She-Hulk show, and she's in the same bundle of rights.)
@IcyDiamond3 жыл бұрын
@@AllWIllFall2Me But Ross has appeared in some of the Disney movies like Civil War and Infinity War
@moanguspickard2493 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond But those were never named Hulk. Its a tricky thing, you can have rights to a character but not the distribution rights of character, ie. to name the thing after the character. So as long as the name of the show/movie isnt hulk, they can do it.
@AllWIllFall2Me3 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond Yeah, just to add to Moangus's point, what I think is happening is that the contracts have worked out in a weird way, so one of a few things has happened: 1. Universal's contract is phrased in a limited manner, so they have the TV rights to all "Hulk characters", not all "HULK Character". (Meaning, "all characters who are Hulks", not "all characters in the HULK comics".) This lets Marvel/Disney use Ross...as long as he is not a Hulk. 2. Marvel and Universal made some deal either for the 2008 Hulk movie, or the 2012 Avengers movie, and are sticking to it. Remember that Tony Stark meets up with General Ross in the Hulk post-credits scene: Marvel and Universal might have agreed that Marvel can use certain Hulk characters in cross-over appearances in other Marvel movies for a fee, but Universal still gets a cut of any movie where a Hulk is the main character/any "Hulk" movie.. (2008 makes the most sense for this for two reasons: 1. It's before Disney bought Marvel, so it make sense they didn't try to push for full control/buy-out the Hulk rights, and 2. Red Hulk was CREATED in 2008, just before the movie came out, so it would make sense that he's in a weird limbo/General Ross was priced lower than, say, Betty, if the contract was created before Ross was also a Hulk. )