NAPA VS KUBOTA (hydraulic oil filters) - What's inside???

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[@andyfritchen6409]

All that I have learned from your videos the least I can do is buy my parts through Messicks. Thank you for your time. Very informative even for a retired mechanic.

[@MessicksEquip]

Thanks, always humbling that I can offer something that adds value to somebody with a career as a mechanic.

[@m2autoworks]

the worlds most dramatic filter cutting ever

[@Azone14]

You are great at making videos. I ordered 3 years’ worth of filters from you after watching the oil filter video. I got all the filters, air, hyd, HST, fuel and oil in 3 days after I ordered them on line. Very convenient. Thanks for sharing.

[@MessicksEquip]

Thanks!

[@jeffreyvictor3678]

Neil watched this video and ordered a Kubota hydro filter for my M4D-071 from you on Sunday evening. Had the filter in my hand in Georgia on Wednesday morning! KUDO's to you, (Jodi) and your sales staff!!

[@davehoward2791]

Another great video, thank you! I have an LS tractor but I watch lots of your videos because you're honest, informative, and most of the information is generic and therefore usable to a broad audience. I've learned a lot watching your videos so please keep up the great work, it is greatly appreciated by all tractor owners!👍

[@KubotaL4060]

I have always used Kubota hst and hydraulic filters... until this past week I used an aftermarket suction filter. Defective filter made my ZD331 unusable until I got an OEM filter on it. Enjoy your videos!

[@davidstillman4271]

When talking filter material, the most important thing to gage a filter by is the “micron” rating for the material. This tells you the size of the contaminants that will pass through the filter material. The total filter surface is important also. This allows more oil to flow freer through the filter when new as well as after it becomes dirty. The use of a micrometer to measure metal thickness would be helpful. You may want to replace the cutter wheels on your tool.

[@stevenmalcomb4168]

Coolest filter cutting montage I've ever seen.

[@bladewiper]

filters are a great place to check when you suspect a failure. another great video.

[@D3faulted1]

I prefer to use OEM hydraulic filters. Had a few issues using aftermarket ones both were flow problems. One starved the pump of oil burning it up and the other was when it was cold and couldn't flow the thickened oil. Blew the seal and emptied the 15 gallon tank on the ground, thankfully caught it before the pump went. Never had an issue using OEM filters. The price difference is nothing compared to that of hydraulic components.

[@Lackieestatesfarm]

A great comparison on these filters would be to remove the filter material from the housing and stretch it out on the workbench. This would give a visual and a measurement rather than saying “more pleating”. I always use OEM on my equipment. Except for my 1969 Massey Ferguson 135. It’s been converted from a canister filter to a spin-on type.

[@mikestefano7198]

Here I am on a Tuesday afternoon watching filter videos on the job doesn't get any better you guys rock!

[@stephensfarms7165]

Great information on kubota filters. They are worth the extra money. Thanks 🙏

[@Flyinghook]

Another reason why I try to stock at least one filter for every piece of equipment I have. I use mobile one filters in my cars because they filter smaller particles, and are quality, but something where the oem filter is clearly the way to go I have no problem going oem.

[@Redneck_Ed]

I disagree on the spring function. If you look up that NAPA filter, it's a Wix WL10079 and the Wix catalog say that model has "NONE" for bypass relief. This matches what I've seen on several hydraulic filters which seem to mostly have no bypass relief valve. Engine oil filters sometimes have a leaf for tension with a bypass spring built in the middle of the leaf and sometimes the leaf is just for tension or the filter has a coil spring, and in both of those cases the bypass relief valve is built into the canister

[@allanpyne9647]

I think it would be interesting to see .A used filter well drained to see, if it's structure is still holding up inside.Plus see if it is catching contaminants or did it fall apart and passed contaminants ?

[@TractorTech]

I don't like the "spring" in the Kubota filter. That is what Fram uses in their oil filters. Over time the spring flattens allowing oil to bypass. I've taken many fram filters off that you can shake and hear them rattle. With all of that being said, with the frequent service intervals on the hydraulic filters, I doubt they compress that often.

[@Sicktrickintuner]

Yep some filters for some companies are much more expensive, like for my dodge truck. Local fleetguard(cummins) from a truck shop, $9.61, dealership wants about $18 and change

[@glennwilliams15]

Thank you sir I ordered some today from you guys.

[@MessicksEquip]

Thanks!

[@getonlygotonly]

there are filter labs that do evaluation of different filters. would be helpful to have the specs those independent labs have for these filters your talking about.

[@MessicksEquip]

Do you have an example of one? I'll look it up

[@johnserrano9689]

I cant stop laughing, priceless intro lol.....reminds me of when i was a young buck i could sometimes overhear my mom watching lifetime womans network with the dramatic take

[@smoothbore4377]

Do the aftermarket filters typically leak ? Do the cans frequently get crushed ? Does Kubota build their filters in their own propriety filter factory, ... or are their filters made by one of the mass producers, who make filters that are sold under a wide variety of names ?

[@HanShiongSiah]

Thanks Neil, I wish your price was similar in Australia. For Example - HH1G0-32430 Your price - $14.68 Aus Price - $60.03(USD converted) HH160-32430 Your Price - $14.68 Aus Price - $47.56(USD converted) Aus Baldwin - ~$20(made in the US) Ryco Z9 - $5 HH166-43560 Your Price - 18.66 Aus Price - $37.61(USD converted) 3P300-11220 Your Price - $38.01 Aus Prices $99.01(USD Converted) AUS Baldwin - ~$40 HHK20-36990 Your Price - $12.19 Aus Price - $25.72(USD Converted) These are some of filters i deal with for my tractors. This is why in Australia, it is not worth cost of buying Kubota Filters, as you can see one filters in Australia i can buy it four times from you. You need to start selling them in Australia as it is cost us a lots in filters here. I think even shipping freight and filter will be cheaper then local bought filters. I stick with Baldwin or Donaldson filters. Unless Neil your company start shipping them to Australia. For your example if i take 4x HH1G0-32430 for price for 1 here, i can use for up to 2400 hours vs 600hours. And don't get me started with the oils. It is almost 3 times the price here vs yours. At My M135GX first service(50hours), the kubota dealer said, we don't change the Hydraulic Oil or Filters, or the owner will have heart attack at the price they pay. If the prices where like 20% more expensive then third party, Yes I would go with Kubota Oils and filters. If they are 4-6 times the price of third party filters you know where farmers will go to else where. Another example is I don't buy my spare parts for my Honda ATV from Aus i buy from US as it is half the price including freight. It is only an extra week to wait.

[@MessicksEquip]

Yea, we've heard that. Seems all your tractor stuff there is expensive. We sell a lot of parts to Australia for other brands. Unfortunately Kubota has very strict export rules for the dealers.

[@goyoman1978]

Si cubota tuviese un tipo como tu vendiendo en España serian numero 1 sin dudar...

[@m2autoworks]

Take a lesson from Honda, their filters are also wrapped in plastic and have put out a service bulletin saying to not open the filter by poking the plastic in the middle. They have had lubricating issues due to plastic wrap finding its way into a system from being accidentally poked into the filter before it was put on.

[@MessicksEquip]

That's an interesting point about the plastic. I can see some people not removing it at all.

[@edwardmartin1831]

Another great video Thanks again EDWARD

[@JCWren]

Can't believe you missed a golden opportunity to put a "Subscribe!" label on the drawer just above the filter cutter :)

[@peppylapeeeU]

Lol you drive a Ford. I had a 2008 F550 with 6.4l and aside from the obvious, multiple, and continous problems , the last one before I traded out for a Dodge was the funniest and contradicted what the young man said. I had turbo noise, squealing, and the dealer along with Ford engineers were not willing to cover the issue due to me not using a Ford specific original part. I had switched to Wix air filters after finding out I could without affecting the warranty but low and behold they flipped on me. I changed the filters out in half the time the manufacturer recommended to keep the turbos protected. I called wix now facing a 5 grand bill for a turbo and they laughed while telling me they made Ford filters as well. They got involved on my behalf with Ford and had the bill cut in half. Of course it should have been free but the dealer found a crack in the filter housing and said it was drawing in dirty air. Funny though since in that case I should have been responsible for the full bill but when they pulled up my record they could see where I had broken down so many times in so many different towns and 8 different dealerships had their hands on my truck so even they admitted one of their mechanics along the way likely caused the crack. They tried working the angle of the roads I drove on but I only drove on highways and paved roads. They pulled the same trick with the junk radiators and won as I put 2 new ones in it at my cost for cracking saying it was likely the roads I drove on LMAO. I always would ask them what their slogan was? FORD TOUGH, YEAH RIGHT! Not that every manufacturer hasn't had problems but Ford has been the sneakiest and dirtiest manufacturer I've ever witnessed. Dodge gave me a fit about the DEF system on my 2012 but after a delete its been the only problem to date. Sorry I lost it after hearing him say manufacturers allow aftermarket filters because Ford certainly did all they could to get out of paying for using a filter that makes theirs also. As far as this test I have 3 tractors and my 82'l305 is my most used. I learned to drive a tractor on this beast when I was 10 and when dad wasn't watching I beat the hell out of it. He would get on to me when I'd come from the woods after bushogging saying it sounded like a war as I was tackling 4" privet hedge. When I became the sole user of it I wasn't into maintenance and did a piss poor job by not changing oil or air filters far longer than manufacturers recommended. We used Napa oil and fuel filters from day one and considering how I treated the ole girl it has never let me down or used a drop of oil. I swear I have always thought I had some special model with all platinum components. Aside from 2 water pumps, I recently lost some teeth on the internal gear on the 540 rpm but to date that's the only problem I've ever had after nearly 40 years of hard work. I can't speak for the newest models but I have a 2009 b3030 and it hasn't complained once, but I don't treat it like the l305 though. I can certainly attest that the older Kubotas are beyond tough and resilient!

[@OShackHennessy]

I heard a Pennsylvania accent then I looked up your location, yep! Grew up in Philly myself.

[@adamwalker4513]

The Belleville style spring in the Oem filter allows pressure to build before popping. This ensures maximum filtration before bypass, and also allows for high pressure alerts to the operator more frequently. It’s totally necessary if you have filter warnings on your equipment as coiled spring bypass may not reach pressures high enough to trigger the warnings.

[@theodoreackerson1442]

Three-hundred dollars for a fifty hour service. Kubota is sure proud of their stuff.

[@shirlb1168]

do you have a video on changing oil on a L4400 kubtota?

[@FishFind3000]

Also if your gonna say it’s got more pleating pull them off and stretch it out. The Napa may be shorter but might have deeper pleats giving more area.

[@briangc1972]

Pleating can't be deeper because the have the same OD and the same inner hole.

[@MessicksEquip]

That's the threads, the pleating comes no where near that.

[@MessicksEquip]

In a cheap filter, its really common to have lots of dead space and spacer parts as they try and reuse the same filtering elements across models.

[@supercharged2414]

Compare them to a better quality filter like Purolator or Sure Filter. I doubt it makes much difference if proper maintenance schedule is done. The only real way to compare filters is to test the smallest micron of debris it will catch.

[@tangoseal1]

I only use OEM filters and parts. When you pay hard earned cash for a Grand L 4060 it means that much more to you that you do not go cheap on it.

[@spooler7828]

I always use OEM on whatever engine it is. Car, truck, tractor, etc.

[@landoncoker7687]

Do I have to use kubota udt fluid in a M7040 kubota tractor

[@casycasy5199]

again another great video keep it up

[@supercharged2414]

The two hydraulic filters for a ZD 326 are way more than aftermarket. $26.52 and $48.24 at Messicks. Way expensive.

[@MessicksEquip]

buy one of each and cut them open. I'm sure they are very different internally.

[@davids.9834]

I usually run after market oil, fuel and air filters, but when it comes to the trans filter I buy OEM.

[@yesno.idontknow.587]

Can you do fuel filter OEM vs. Napa

[@MessicksEquip]

I did about 18 months ago, look back.

[@sweetpigfarm3645]

Got an early 80s b6100hst the hydraulic filter is the one filter I use OEM.

[@kellygreene6572]

Jump to 2:30 to get to the chase and play at 1.25 speed to save time.

[@kw900lkevin]

@ 7:37 you are holding the napa filter calling it the kubota filter ?

[@gregcollins9542]

he was saying it right just had them sitting on the wrong box

[@shaunsmith9801]

I have to ask why does that tool exist?! Other than this why would you ever want to cut open an oil filter?

[@MessicksEquip]

We do regularly, to check the health of the machine

[@angelociurleo9375]

0n certain engines (aircraft) its critical to observe any debris caught by pleats. Oil analysis is not the only source of condition.

[@blessed7fold]

@@MessicksEquip Interesting

[@michikopka]

quite a big shop. so you serve customers in a big area? like your videos very much, many information, even if it is not green and yellow.

[@JCLawn51]

CNH does not get the love as kubota does. This would of been a good video to include them on

[@MessicksEquip]

CNH is in the works. Their supply chain for filters is a lot different.

[@GeoMass1023]

Too bad my dealer uses after market filters and mower blades as evidenced by no markings. However charges the premium price.

[@Mauser304]

I noticed that you didn't compare the NAPA Platinum filter with the Kubota. That would have been the fair comparison.

[@MessicksEquip]

They don't have a platinum for hydraulic filters. When I did engine oil filters I did compare all their options.

[@markhansen4258]

I think I’ll keep buying the Kubota filters. My tractor needs tlc. It takes a lot of abuse.

[@reallyslowcustom2514]

Put good oil and change the filters the machine well run a long time

[@t-bonebassmaster5191]

When i buy a piece of equipment wheather its a lawn mower , tractor, truck etc,i always buy that brand of filters. For the little money you save buying other filters to me are just no worth the chance. You basically know if you are gonna have that piece of equipment for many years to come, just buy filters4-6 at a time and get a better price.

[@charlesterrizzi8311]

Filter breakdown epic motion picture by Stanley Kubrick

[@SchulzChris]

Thanks for the video. You have gotten so dramatic in your editing. Nice drama. LOL

[@FishFind3000]

If the cans are so much more thicker why don’t you use some calipers and measure them. Turns is just subjective. you could have made deeper passes on the Napa.

[@MessicksEquip]

I did, did you want my last video?

[@FishFind3000]

but that was with oil not with these hydro filters

[@reganmorben9248]

Do NOT need dramatic footage of the tools used to cut the filters... not needed.

[@85square]

thats one big ass fan

[@MetaView7]

No more Napa anything for me. Not just tractors, but for cars too.

[@dwayneloftice2326]

Nothing but Kabota filters will EVER be on my LX 2610 tractor.....PERIOD! Just like nothing EVER but JD filters were ever on my JD 2040 for over 30 years!

[@macketherington250]

Please don’t make thumbnails like that

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Kinda funny, the Ad was for the Xmark game changer sales event. ;-0

[@plumber77mjr]

Why do you have a filter cutter, and its labeled on your tool box? A grinder would do

[@plumber77mjr]

PS, that hanging thread on the logo of your shirt is driving me crazy, burn it off, lol

[@nealk6387]

A grinder will contaminate the filter media. Filter cutters are much cleaner.

[@dwwilliams72]

@neal k. You mean the same way that the band saw lubricating oil did?

[@richardbeasley9084]

@@dwwilliams72 He means if you are cutting open a used filter to examine the contents and check the condition of the engine you don't want grinder particles added to the equation. In the case of this video it would not have mattered since it was just a demo of the construction of the filter.

[@mikeratkowski3506]

Used for warranty work making damage claims

[@arthurr8670]

I use a Ford filter on my jeep

[@joeyw4442]

Kubota parts.........all the time, everytime. For my Ford........Motorcraft all the time, everytime.

[@yzdirtbikes144]

2.5 minutes of music and slow motion cutting is kind of excessive and stupid. I really enjoy most of your videos but get to the point. That was really dumb and I lost interest in watching this video.

[@timellis3978]

Well Damn!

[@thechestnutking736]

Quit cherry picking filters. Compare them all if you’re going to do a test.

[@MessicksEquip]

Check other videos, I've done this half a dozen times.

[@thechestnutking736]

@@MessicksEquip Provide the links please.

[@MessicksEquip]

@@thechestnutking736 kzbin.info?search_query=messick+filter

[@jakereynoldsvter]

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