Naphtha VS Zippo Fluid

[@jacobstreeter5780]

I love how thoroughly this experiment was carried out, you don’t have to be rich or a big company to produce reliable data

[@yasyasmarangoz3577]

Of course not wzf

[@bertjesklotepino]

Ok. So may i show you a video or 2 in which you can see certain experiments everybody could do in their own backyard, producing reliable data (something that was known prior to the person doing the experiments in those videos, to basically everyone with a bit of interest in the subject) and yet they are discredited by so called "experts and scientists" on the official side? Big Company (aka big money) rules. And it does not matter how reliable your data is. If politics are involved, you may show what ever experiment you like.... it will not change "history" nor will it change society. hints enough, i assume? If not, pls dont call me all kinds of names, or get angry or whatever. Just ask what i mean.......and i can explain. But i think i have given a few hints towards the subject i am talking about, and everyone with just a bit of knowledge SHOULD be able to understand that we have been fooled. Yes, it is offtopic. Sorry for that. But i cant help it. When ever i see a comment like yours, mr Jacob, i feel the need to point out how we ALL accept BULLSHIT. (or seem to accept) Over money! Worthless toiletpaper when you have control over the printer that prints the bills.

[@X-boomer]

@@bertjesklotepino that’s not entirely true. To get data published for peer review it has to be be done to a known standard of accuracy by an accredited institution and the results carefully subjected to statistical analysis. That much is true. But if you have some surprising data and your methodology looks sound and you’re not talking complete and total bollocks (e.g. claims about perpetual motion machines) you might be able to get your local university interested. Bearing in mind that they have limited resources and the project size would need to be something they could integrate (eg a suitable size and scope for an undergraduate or masters program project).

[@X-boomer]

There is plenty of science done by amateurs. Some even manage to get papers published.

[@bertjesklotepino]

@@X-boomer You see to misunderstand me. What i am saying is: I know of a few videos in which experiments have been done which EVERYBODY could do on their own. These experiments have been done so many times that the science behind it is fully known. And yet somehow when people are shown videos like the ones i am talking about, they often deny it is possible. And try to find all kinds of excuses to not think about it any longer. Im not talking about perpetual motion sir. And, plenty of accredited institutions have said the same all throughout the years, until a moment in time made them all change their opinion. And now a days the subject aint even open for discussion, because according to certain people everything has been studied, everything has been looked into, nothing new to find. Case closed. I am very very sorry, but no matter the amount of sugarcoating, it will still be a turd.

[@patrickchubey3127]

I bought a gallon of Brand X naptha gas for about 10 bucks a few years back and have been using it in my Zippo ever since. It's cheaper than hell and seems to work at least as well as official 5 dollars an ounce lighter fluid.

[@patrickchubey3127]

It had a petrochemical scent but I wouldn't say it's any worse than lighter fluid.

[@Mike1614YT]

Paint thinner is Mineral Spirits. (beware that for the last several years, “green” variants of mineral spirits is now sold with water added to it). VM&P Naphtha (Varnish Makers’ and Painters’ Naphtha) is a more volatile, faster drying variant of mineral spirits and is commonly used by painters when faster drying of oil-based paints is required, esp. when spray painting. Mineral spirits can be used as charcoal lighter, it lights readily without excessive flame up. Kerosene is similar to mineral spirits, but is less volatile and is more difficult to light as a charcoal starter. Using mineral spirits or kerosene in a zippo isn’t practical as it is too difficult to light using the flint ignition. Zippo fuel appears to be a variant of Naphtha, perhaps slightly more flammable to ensure quicker lighting with the flint.

[@sagivn.s2237]

very well made video, and i found myself asking this question so its nice someone tested it under proper conditions thank you, i subscribed mate

[@brianfitch5469]

I use to paint trailers for a custom trailer shop such as utilities, car haulers etc. Wax and bread remover smells just like zippo fluid and works just the same. I also used lacquer thinner for fuel. It works great as well. Just has a little smell to it. The few years I painted there I never bought lighter fluid. Both fluids performed perfectly. You can even use gas yes gasoline. I've done it but it smells. And troops in WW2, Korea, Vietnam use to have a string tied to the case so they could dip it in the fuel tanks of their vehichles.

[@moser3712]

Could you please tell the name of the items? The brand for "wax and bread remover" and the "lacquer thinner"?

[@brianfitch5469]

@@moser3712 wax and grease remover, don't know how bread got up there. They both are whatever house brand for O'Reilly auto is. We were next door to them. And I got my wax and grease remover and 5 gallon buckets of lacquer thinner from them. The brand doesn't matter, you can use whatever lacquer thinner you can find. They are all slightly different mix of chemicals. But all flammable. I know the wax and grease remover toulene was the majority of the solvent in it.

[@herbertgearing1702]

True, but that was the good stuff in those gas tanks. Full flavor, lead additives, which of course makes it delicious like lead paint chips. I mean if you are going to get cancer anyway is a little long term brain damage really a problem? I don't want to be fully alert and aware for a slow painful death lol.

[@dadtheman3516]

I've been using white gas Camp fuel for over 30 years in my zippo.

[@brianfitch5469]

@@dadtheman3516 anything high volatile will work just about.

[@princefriendship]

How about fuel retention? Which one will last longer inside the lighter when not used?

[@Destructor8031]

well its not the liquid that burns its the vapours so if the 3rd party Naphtha last longer that suggests it vaporizes slower so it should last longer as it will evaporate slower. Zippo fluid is Naphtha so the fact that one performs differently suggests there are more impurities in one or one is more refined.

[@masterdebater8757]

@@Destructor8031 Naphtha is a mixture of products not a specific product. That's why they are both actually Naphtha but derived from different mixtures. hope that makes since i have trouble finding the right words to explain it. There would be major variations in it due to which sources it was produced and how well it was refined as well as if it was mixed with other similar products distilled from differing sources like natural gas, crude, coal, peat, and so on. Zippo fluid is likely highly refined from one source where Naphtha paint thinner remover may be less refined combination or alternate less clean source or production.

[@tonygosbee3390]

@@masterdebater8757 Thank you for the clarification.

[@SerenoOunce]

@@Destructor8031 Zippo (Ronsonal) branded fuel is Naphtha but goes through a hydrogen treatment process. Made specifically for an efficient burn, both hotter and cleaner.

[@ericdee6802]

Right off the bat you can see that the Zippo fluid #1 is much cleaner of a burn than #2 Naptha.

[@nobody2021]

If you're just starting fires this shouldn't matter but for smoking I could see this mattering to some people. if you care that much though then you should probably use butane instead. as i understand them, butane is somewhat cleaner burning than naphtha, but you're inhaling carcinogenic smoke either way so i don't understand why people care at the end of the day.

[@midgetman4206]

​@@nobody2021The "taste". At least from what I've heard.

[@nobody2021]

@@midgetman4206 I've heard of that as well, however I have also heard that if you light a Zippo and let it burn for a couple of seconds before lighting tobacco or weed or whatever you're trying to smoke, the naptha flavor won't be there. That's just what I've heard, I don't smoke.

[@NendoCrescendo]

@@nobody2021 yeah, like drinking gasoline and complaining that the naphtha tastes worse lol.

[@MonstersFlyinginTheSky]

@@NendoCrescendo yeah its like why we even have different brands of beer and whiskey. right?

[@matthewhurst5910]

This is a great channel idea

[@markenlightenment7101]

I really like your videos! Could you kindly (with a cherry on top) make one for high concentrated alcohol and another for gasoline? Both aren't optimal for the zippo but are commonly available alternatives in survival situations.

[@tulsaprepperdad6674]

I tried alcohol because that's all I had... horrible and doesn't last long when if you don't use it

[@kshgarg147]

Very nice work! Can you make a video on normal cotton vs rayon cotton vs cotton bacon vs carbon felt? using the same zippo fuel ofcourse!

[@bretzeletouffeur7401]

The true match is on the price and when you light it: Using what we call in France "essence classe F" sounds like heavy naphta for my zippo and cost me 2.5€ for a litter at local supermarket, Versus 32€ the litter on amazon for zippo best bulk offer. But it surprised me first times and almost burned my nose hairs. No smell, no trouble. But using "Escensse classe C" sound like light naphta is a disaster: way too much volatile. So I guess you english people have also different classes of naphta: Take the less volatile one and it works great with good fuel retention and no atomic mushroom at every use, and no smell for the one I use.

[@richiehoyt8487]

"No atomic mushroom" 😆 lol!

[@YoYoMan112]

What I noticed was the zippo fluid made a bigger flame but died out more quickly

[@wallycleaver1046]

I can clearly see the zippo flame is a cleaner and therefore hotter burn; hints quicker burn off.

[@lampajoo]

This channel is a good concept. Keep going with it!

[@NaughtiusMaximu5]

i use Naphtha in my zippo hand warmers, it burns about 20-30 min longer than zippo fluid and i don't notice a difference with the two

[@sackofclams953]

Zippo wicks are not packed consistently so that may introduce some variation. You’re supposed to re pack the lighter fluff when you buy one

[@jm-tKoA26]

Any variation from how the wicking material was packed would have been negated by him switching the fuel in the two lighters each time

[@pacman_17]

@@jm-tKoA26 exactly. it's pretty clear which fuel won

[@GrantRussell-k1p]

Have you considered the possibility that these numbers might have been affected by differing rates of evaporation? The lighters being ignited for this long of a duration would have heated the lighters up to a temperature which would have caused the fluid to start evaporating faster. Perhaps the difference in flame temperatures between the two fuels might differ, leading one to cause faster evaporation. Or perhaps the two fuels might have different rates of evaporations.

[@bentontool]

My trouble is getting the naphtha to LIGHT, not how long it burns... which one lights easier? If Zippo fluid is more volatile, it should light easier. I also like Coleman stove fluid, another naphtha product.

[@masterdebater8757]

change product brand you should find one equally volatile thus it lights similar to traditional zippo fluid. All products you mentioned are naphtha products because it is a mixture of hydrocarbons by definition. Another manufacturer or product brand may be all you need just like the competition for zippo brand is not equal to the zippo product either.

[@mothman6378]

God, naphtha doesn't go out without a fight lmao

[@DenaturedProtein]

Cool channel for Zippo Enthusiasts!

[@joanberman5008]

Could you try make the same test but now "zippo fluid VS xylene"? The brand "klean strip" have xylene

[@ecleveland1]

I would just use the Zippo lighter fluid it's not that expensive. Hydrotreated Light Naphtha is the main solvent in zippo lighter fluid, about 30%, I'm not sure what the other 70% is. the MSD sheet says it's Light Hydrotreated Distillate. TSCA Definition 2019: A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained by the distillation of products from the light distillate hydrotreating process. It consists of hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly in the range of C6 through C9 and boiling in the range of approximately 3.degree.C to 194.degree.C (37.degree.F to 382.degree.F).

[@manueltudanca7842]

I love your perfectionist personality

[@ElectroPig]

I can't help wondering about evaporation rates, since Zippos aren't sealed units (a la butane), I'm wondering how much that would factor in over time. In my experience, Zippo fluid seems to last "roughly" two weeks, whether you use it or not.

[@osbaldohernandez9174]

Does it harm the zippo when you use naptha

[@orbelgalvarado]

Zippo is naphtha

[@tonimacaroni5305]

How does ur zippo stay lit for so long. Ill light mine get a regular flame and then after 5-10 seconds the flame shrinks then dies. Its not that its empty cuz it will still do it after fill up

[@torukmahtomahto409]

The problem with all alternative fuels is ignition, no one can spark and fire like original...

[@X-boomer]

The lighter fluid is optimised for a clean odourless burn, so it will be a different mixture of aliphatic compounds.

[@squirts1]

lighter fuel/fluid is hardly odorless or optimised.

[@LZ2SM]

Fun fact - here in Bulgaria we call the diesel fuel naphta

[@evgenitantikov5865]

Naphtha is not a specific chemical compound, it's a mixture of petroleum distillates, so you can call anything you want Naphtha. Equivalent of Naphtha in most of Europe is Kerosene aka highly purified lamp oil.

[@richiehoyt8487]

​@@evgenitantikov5865 I don't know about Continental Europe, but here in the British Isles, what the Americans call 'Kerosene' is what we call 'Paraffin Oil'. I use Paraffin Oil in a heater (for my purposes, I find it preferable than those heaters that run on bottled gas), but I wouldn't put the fuel anywhere near my lighters. It's not as volatile as lighter fuel, it's noticeably more viscous, is the colour of pee, and it smells! I don't actually find the smell unpleasant, but I wouldn't want the taint on my tobacco! (And that's the _good_ stuff! There's a cheaper grade you can use for greenhouse heaters, but used indoors, apart from the fact that there's probably a decent chance it would give you carbon monoxide poisoning, it can burn a bit sooty and the smell would be near unbearable!) Anyway, I rather doubt it would work in a lighter, its low volatility would mean you'd probably be trying forever to light it by striking the wheel. You could probably get it to work by applying a flame to the wick, but needless to say, that's a little redundant! Even if you could somehow make it work, I suspect over time it would dirty up the wick and the wadding, rendering them less efficient.

[@lonecrusader5312]

I know this video was a while ago. But I've used naptha in my hand warmers for years and years

[@pvmelite4230]

Is naptha safe to inhale? I use zippos to light stuff to smoke. Is it safer than the zippo lighter fluid

[@theoldtechhandheldtinkerer4092]

one thing I am interested is the evaporation rates of these two fuels, I'm annoyed at how fast my ZIPPO's and IMCO's are emptied without any use.

[@ThisVSThat-xw2cb]

I can tell you the chemical composition of these two are nearly identical the naphtha is just a little more "dirty" in terms of purity. If your lighter is going dry quickly it could be due to the insert and housing not being a tight fit. Lighters with a tight fit will often keep fuel for 3+ weeks and average fitting inserts keep fuel for about 2 week. That's about the norm. If it lasting less than that with minimal usage i would by a new insert. Also, if you make or by a ranger band it should help you as well.

[@Krunchyjclown]

I use flints from spent bic lighters. Crack it open, pull flint, sand down to fit. Works for me so far(years).❤

[@alexbiggs9208]

you can cut 'em about in half and it's really close to the standard zippo flint in my experience, so it's two for one! : )

[@Thelounge3k]

@@alexbiggs9208 yeah bic flints are huge, I usually use a nail clipper and place the flint in the clipper so it will cut it in half. Just make sure to wrap your hand around the flint and clipper when you cut it so the flints wont fly

[@Krunchyjclown]

@@Thelounge3k haha that happened to me once just about the same way as you described my 1st time testing the idea. Lol badass

[@Thelounge3k]

@@Krunchyjclown lol thats cool... Yeah whenever my friends have bic lighters I always ask them to save it for me when it runs out. I have no idea why bic puts such huge flints in disposable lighters but oh well lol

[@Krunchyjclown]

@@Thelounge3k well, bic lights for a good while. Im sure the long flint is one reason why. I like to shave em down rather than cut em. I keep flints just long enough to get a heavier spark. So far i haven't worn out the striker.

[@RevealersTv]

Good job, solved my problem

[@YounesBerrada01]

Nice comparison

[@stefanhnavetsea1588]

so whatever mix ZLF added over the naptha make it burns faster or probably evaporate into gas more easily and reduce its longevity in fuel efficiency, no wonder it also evaporates within its body a lot easier too unless the insert is sealed with extra precaution or using 3rd party insert that comes with sealed bottom and wick cap. anyway I also buy C9 Naptha since the price per litter of that naptha is equivalent to 125ml can of ZLF in my country so with the extra efficiency shown here probably I pay 1/10 of the cost for fuel.

[@zippolyonsden1623]

First problem I see is he never properly repacked the wicks and cotton in the lighters. Zippo recommends that it be done.

[@G.H.O.S.T.F.R.E.A.K]

Burns dirtier and you’ll need to clean your zippo a lot more often but hey beats buying it every few months.

[@laddinimby]

zippo fluid is made of distilled Petrol and naptha - PETROLIUM ETHER❤️

[@fatirjee6217]

Bro can we use kerosene oil in zippo?

[@laddinimby]

@@fatirjee6217 Try Petroleum Ether ❤️

[@jamesrainey4379]

Thank you so much for the info!

[@sipanyan1884]

I thnik its is mixed with some naphta + asiton

[@davidkotras7147]

I wonder if you've also done an experiment to see which one evaporates faster in the lighter?

[@tikkidaddy]

Weigh both lighters. Write both down. Fill both, write weight down. Weigh every day

[@tikkidaddy]

Weigh both lighters. Write both down. Fill both, write weight down. Weigh every day

[@tikkidaddy]

Weigh both lighters. Write both down. Fill both, write weight down. Weigh every day

[@tikkidaddy]

Weigh both lighters. Write both down. Fill both, write weight down. Weigh every day

[@mcr0741]

Naptha vs Coleman's white gas!

[@lampajoo]

Coleman is the same but is dirty.

[@Blasthoff]

No comment at all as to odor which is probably the most important comparison!! I guess I'll need to do that myself

[@ThisVSThat-xw2cb]

There was no discernable difference in odor.

[@chandlerwilliams9279]

they both smell great

[@JohnLeaf]

And about the smell wich one smell better?

[@nobody2021]

They both smell like brain cancer. Pick your poison

[@joethomas5983]

what about light-ability?

[@walterpedersen843]

Temp the flame and see witch is hotter

[@robertwest7197]

Good job friend. I like your use of stats. I have a question, what about odour? I just recently purchased a zippo hand warmer so odour is a factor I’m interested in as well.

[@G.H.O.S.T.F.R.E.A.K]

Old school naphtha like old school ronsonol is going to be just that REALLY STRONG odor but burns faster and lasts longer. It’s an old formula. They’ve redone it throughout the decades just to make sure it burns less dirtier

[@ARAPTOR7]

What about the smell or taste when lighting a cigarette? Did you notice any difference between naptha and zippo fluid?

[@ThisVSThat-xw2cb]

No difference in smell. I do not recommend for lighting cigarettes as it is unknown of the exact ingredients of the Naphtha. It could contain harmful chemicals. This is just a test of how well it would work in a lighter.

[@professored7169]

I use that exact brand of naptha to light my cigs for a couple years, I don't notice a difference, but Idgaf about chemicals, so dudes right, if u want to be safe, use zippo/ronsonal

[@greenh7181]

This experiment translates to hand warmers.

[@user-jn9km6qd7g]

Is that a question or statement?

[@greenh7181]

Statement

[@khanahmad9320]

Naptha is not available in my country . Can I use paint thinner instead

[@ObamaoZedong]

I'm not certain but I do know you can use benzine.

[@poetato5331]

how did you not blow up and flames go everywhere when you do this with the naptha?

[@user-realahhnikka]

They are practically the same thing

[@poetato5331]

@@user-realahhnikka but the lighter when into the naphtha with it being lit

[@rterry2752]

Lighter fluid IS naptha !

[@Rpg39_]

Zippo brand is only 70% Naptha.

[@streetpunk99]

Do you think naptha can be used in kerosene oil lamps?

[@pvmelite4230]

I think oil lamps have thicker, more viscosity liquid

[@spacepope87]

Is it dirtier though?

[@ARCSTREAMS]

so what is naphta used for is it bbq or charcoal lighter fluid like royal oak? and is there smoke or an odor?

[@Voyajer.]

Zippo fluid is naphtha, coleman fuel is too.

[@ARCSTREAMS]

so is royal oak fluid right?@@Voyajer.

[@pvmelite4230]

​@@Voyajer.It's like 20 or 30 percent naptha

[@jomint6]

​@@ARCSTREAMS Different

[@ARCSTREAMS]

@@jomint6 would you say royal oak is more like kerosene? ok so can i use coleman for my zippo lighter fluid? will it be more economic?

[@osbaldohernandez9174]

How do the wicks look like inside

[@ThisVSThat-xw2cb]

No difference than regular use of Zippo fluid.

[@osbaldohernandez9174]

@@ThisVSThat-xw2cb awesome could you do a video or how the cotton inside looks like

[@masterdebater8757]

@@osbaldohernandez9174 there is no point in comparing the parts of the lighters as he rotated the lighters 6 times thus each fuel was inside each lighter 3 times. In doing this he presented optimal data for this experiment just short of chemical analysis and BTU data there is no more data to be had here for the purpose of the experiment was likely to compare an alternate but functionally similar fuel that is reasonably cheaper than the severely over priced zippo fluid.

[@1fault]

This is cool but for smoking the brand name fluid is better

[@VanityCyan]

Does oil paint thinner, nail polish remover works the same way ???

[@ryu-yuta9259]

Acetone will dont works good as naptha.

[@VanityCyan]

@@ryu-yuta9259 agreed. Isopropyl Alcohol 99% works best. But it evaporated very fast.

[@simongarcia2763]

Hello where I can find the naftha?

[@Mike1614YT]

Ace Hardware, paint stores, Home Depot

[@dylandepuy3715]

Epic dropper failure

[@mobleyMobley]

it evaporates more quickly when exposed to air.

[@sipanyan1884]

It's not working i try its not even light

[@masterdebater8757]

naphtha is a generalization for a mixture of refined hydrocarbons... the product you tried didnt work because it is either mixed with less volatile products some countries have gradients of naphtha to reduce its volatility (designed for specific purposes) try finding a higher grade source of the product or another product like colemans white (gas) liquid fuel, colemans concentrated camp fuel or the like.

[@chasedavis2358]

I expected this to be about dmt extraction

[@masterjoh8409]

bruh i came to this video trying to find naphtha for dmt extraction. Do u know if i can use Zippo lighter fluid as substitute to naphtha for the extraction?

[@chasedavis2358]

@@masterjoh8409 as long as it doesn’t leave residue

[@geekychannel2543]

It looks like the zippo fluid is burning slightly hotter and thus faster then the naptha

[@tonimacaroni5305]

It burns cleaner

[@garthf.brooks6531]

How about mimosa lr oak tree bark?

[@unfortunate9210]

maybe try the scientific method next time

[@zezooom000]

What if i mix together ? 😗

[@jamesjewell5711]

When your old friends copy everything you do and try acting like your the copy when it reality its documented on internet like idc if you do the same thing tbch but don't act like your better be the same and if I leave dont copy me when I leave

[@martinchannelidn9479]

What is that naphtha? Alcohol?

[@masterdebater8757]

Naphtha is a flammable liquid hydrocarbon mixture. Mixtures labelled naphtha have been produced from natural gas condensates, petroleum distillates, and the distillation of coal tar and peat. In different industries and regions naphtha may also be crude oil or refined products such as kerosene. Mineral spirits, also historically known as "naphtha", is not the same chemical. "the internet can easily answer your question thus why no one bothered...."

[@dcfarman]

Naptha samel remove formula

[@Ландро]

Those flames dont have enough oxygen.

[@johnnywinter8892]

Nice test... but since I seem to be the first science guy that watched your video, I must tell you that the graphs at the end... well... they just don't make sense mathematically! This is absolutely not a critic just to break your balls by some annoying know-it-all...In fact, the procedure you followed for testing in your experiment was actually scientifically acceptable and your observation results could be used to draw a valid conclusion to your experiment. That's why I trusted it enough to watch it until the end and find out the end results. But those results cannot be expressed in a XY axis graph, which represents a function between two variables. For example, a function between Y=distance and X=time will represent the ''Speed'' or velocity of an object, in m/s or miles/hour. But your experiment involves actually twice the same experiment which contains only one variable, Time, represented by your Y axis (by the way, the X axis is, by convention, normally used to express the Time variable) But the Y variable is non-existent, so a fonction is also non-existent... making a graphic plot irrevelant. The only way to express the results is by using phrases and numbers, some kind of chart comparing both products, and calculating average times, observations, etc... I know there's a good chance you don't care at all about all this stuff. But I thought that since learning new stuff is cool for some people... maybe you would find it interresting to know about it... even if you're not an astrophysician...

[@dcfarman]

Naptha samel remove formula

[@dadtheman3516]

I use white gas camp fuel for over 30 years in my zippo.

[@mmxx3658]

who's here prepping before alkaloid extraction?

[@hb4lwade1]

Plastic and naphtha is a no no.

[@masterdebater8757]

they didnt have plastic in western films so you should be ok...

[@seancssu]

Use 25% NAPTHA 75% camp fuel

[@ma10aZfr]

anyone here tryna make dmt?

[@valtduzszaruha6125]

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[@drumdude46]

Got 20 Minutes? ...Yeah, me neither.

[@tikkidaddy]

I use Coleman fuel...Zippo is averaging $128 a gallon, Coleman is far cheaper, and that exact brand of Naphtha is what I tried. There is "high flash naphtha as well, the brand you are using seemed oilier to me. If I had seen a high flash version at the time I would've chosen it right off the bat

[@Krunchyjclown]

Damn good video. Compare heavy metal and rock n roll.