Napoleonic Figures Mohammed Ali Pasha

Something different today and we head to the Land of the Pharaohs to look at the life of the father of modern Egypt, Mohammed Ali Pasha and the world in which he lived.
It might originally look like something that's not your bag, but give it a go, he's a fascinating dude!
Either way, thanks for checking it out, and I'll see you in the next one!

[@kitchenkiing]

Thank you for covering this, not many are interested in Albanian history.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Thank you for listening. Yeah it's a shame, although to be fair I dated a girl from Tirana for 5 years when we lived in London and I think I was more interested in Albanian history than she was. It was really sad.

[@kitchenkiing]

@@NapoleonicWargaming yeah thats true the younger generations are not that involved in their own history wich is a shame but someday maybe it Will change.

[@JokeNoMore]

@@NapoleonicWargaming Glad to hear it. Hope it doesn’t die out.

[@redd8964]

​​​@@NapoleonicWargamingalbanians with fustanella:) Ali Pasha's family was before a catholic Albanian Family with european roots. The History of Albanians is amazing. Such a big Nation, that survive the Roman Empire, byzantin Empire, later Ottoman Empire. And now the Albanians are spitted in four Religions but united in one language. This is very important to say. As much as Pasha's we had under Ottoman Empire, we creat also Pops like Pop Clemens Albani, or Pyrrus from Epirus and later the most famous warrior in Europe at the middle age Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeu aka ATHLETA CHRISTI. Don't matter which Religion the fought for them self, for their language and their familys. 90/100 "Greek" Revolutioner are Arvanitas/Albanian 🤙

[@tkcem4438]

Mehmet Ali Pasa was Turkish not albanian.

[@nokualbania1565]

Mohamed ali pasha is from 🇦🇱 fustanellac💖

[@ahmadfathy7994]

He live in egypt and his sons for now live in egypt

[@Pr0FiXOfficial]

@@ahmadfathy7994 Egyptians,Italians,Albanians are the same bro they did split 20k years ago Italians And Albanians came to europe and Egyptians did stay

[@erionvojabuilding1599]

Mate how it’s similar to Greek national dress They’re similar to us coz Prince Otto the Austrian prince saw arvanitas the Albanians in 19th century fighting against turkey nd coz of the leader of the army was Albanian nd most soldiers Albanian marko boqari wit national Albanian dress from south with scirt , to respect them he made his guards were Albanian national clothes but between years they edited the dress nd u think the guards in Athena at the parliament got similar clothes to us they copied us

[@damirsinkovic1319]

Firstly, great job! Didn't hear for Mohammad Ali Pasha before. Must be blessed to have such a marvelous life story. It's difficult to comprehend that one human being can walk the path he did 200 years ago. Again, thank you very much for the video. Greetings from Montenegro!

[@Pr0FiXOfficial]

Always Albanians are legendary people

[@omarelkharbotly1461]

This was a really good in depth video about Mohammed Ali Pasha’s character and his history in Egypt.....as an Egyptian this was really helpful.

[@ovidovid1990]

Bro you are not Egyptian. You're an arab/Albanian. All the foreigners in KEMET, time's up. Return Of The Black Nysuts. Ashe

[@omarelkharbotly1461]

@@ovidovid1990 first of all over 90% of Egyptians are North Africans second of all even if I am an Arab/Albanian or any other race for that matter…..IM STILL EGYPTIAN. So just get over yourself, get some education and grow up.

[@Pr0FiXOfficial]

@@omarelkharbotly1461 egyptians,italians,albanians are the same they dont have to do anything with arabs they split 20k years before.

[@erjonsinani2451]

You are Albanian. You are too white to be Egyptian. No offence.

[@Jjjkluejnek]

This is so interesting they should make a movie about this.

[@philRminiatures]

A fascinating subject...and a great and informative video, splendid illustrations!😍😍

[@anthonysaviourfalzon6072]

Great content as always. I never actually heard of this character. Probably because I never wargamed during Napoleon's period in Egypt and hence never research the period and era in Egypt. Keep up the great content NW>

[@pw972]

Thank you for another great video.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Thanks for watching!

[@erjonsinani2451]

Thank you very much for the video. Greetings from Albania 🇦🇱

[@CullodenPaintingStudio]

A great delve into a forgotten corner of the period. Came out with masses of new info and modelling ideas!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

That's fantastic to hear!

[@thebalkanguy5256]

Most underrated leader ever..Great video. I would recommend more frequent editing though, looking at a singular image for longer than 15 seconds gets kind of boring

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Thankyou, and that's a fair point!

[@davidcollins2648]

Well done Tim. Looking forward to the Ottoman video and will put in a request for you to cover the Cossacks and the Russo-Ottoman war(s) (there's so many!). It must have been a strange feeling for Napleon's mamelukes knowing they might be the last surviving men of a centuries old institution. I also thought the Bashi-Bazooks were later but there is a set in 1/72 made by Strelets(?) or maybe Orion, not 100%.

[@TwisstedSage]

Fantastic video Tim. I know your in the NHS but you should really see if you could volunteer teach History somewher or maybe a book (Illustrated with minis, of course) on the period. I had recently read (most of) a great tome on Napoleon's Egyption campaign so was familiar with the geography & the factions involved but your excitement really brought home the color, thrilling strategems and horrific acts of the political class of the period. It was entralling. I can't see ever getting to the point of building an army suitable to napoleonic Ottomans but I'll look forward to your production in any case. Oh, wanted to let you know how helpful your sessions of painting figures still on the sprue has been to me. I've knocked out 3 regiments of British foot in (for me) no time. I'd love to see a video on techniques of glueiing together plastic figures without glueing the parts to your fingers or your fingers together, or creating blobby messes of shoulder attachments, that have to be cleared up later. Thanks so much for your work, it brightens my world. You may sleep a little easier knowing the big orange baby monster is on his way out of US government, I won't sleep well, till mid January but things are looking up.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Thanks for the kind words dude! Yeah, my Ottomans are just something a little different, they're very much a background project! Not sure about a book, I'm not academically rigorous enough, I just like the juicy bits! Glad to hear you're bashing out the minis, not some the gluing of the elite shoulders myself yet, but I do have some to do so I'll let you know! My initial thought would be to get some super glue on a bit of scrap card and use a cocktail stick to put it on the mini (not the shoulder pad) then drop the pad on before pressing down with the tip of a knife. Not sure if that would work, but I think that's what I'd try first

[@FieldMarshalYT]

Gotta love using Bashi-Bazooks in NTW

[@gotshot8355]

Albanians historically considered as the best soldiers of ballkans from all historians

[@johnwayneeverett6263]

Thank You BUDDY , Let history live ...

[@historypunkwargames4760]

Great video always was interested in the attoman empire especially after watching plenty of films abou the clashes between the Russians and Turks

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Yeah, it's a neglected area

[@johnhart7704]

Intresting video on little known subject .

[@bloodyplebs]

You should change your name to just, early 19 century stuff. But seriously, great video, I'm only 4 minutes in!

[@Beltayn7272]

Still catching up on your videos. I love the tangents, they always inspire new research. But who were the bazingas? Google just comes up with sheldon cooper.

[@ovidovid1990]

When you do find a link can u please share lol

[@BrushQuill]

A very interesting video.

[@lesliesutain19]

A Short Memoir of Mohammed Ali Pasha is by Sir Charles Augustus Murray British Consul ( NOT John Murray publisher )....EXCELLENT Research by the way!

[@occasionalwind]

Mohammed Ali Pasha was an blue-eyed & blond all-Albanian ruler who became the last great ruler of the ancient Egypt and gave birth to the modern Egypt as we know it today.

[@morningstar9233]

Thanks I knew very little about this period in Egypt other than Napoleon's adventure there and i've read widely on the land of the pharaohs. I had heard the words "Bashi Bazouk" however as it was one of the many non swear word expletives used by Captain Haddock in the much loved Tin Tin comics. I'd thought it was just a drunken "Haddockism". Today thanks to the Napoleonic Wargaming channel i know more and must apologies for my ignorance to the fictional captain.( If that's a thing you can do? )

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Ha it's great that the phrase lives on!

[@ankerboi]

Really interesting person and story. Thanks for bringing this to light. Would love to play some Marmeluke games but they are hard to find in 28mm. Any suggestions for companies making miniatures for these games?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

There are a few, unfortunately they are really expensive. Brigade games do a set as do Gringo 40s (although those are kidney selling prices!) I think Old Glory do some, but I'm not 100%. I'm currently (they are deep down the painting pile though!) Looking at Gripping Beast Arab cavalry to represent the Bedouin, and possibly even poorer Mamelukes. If Perry do Afghan cavalry I'd be all over that! They did say in their video on Abukir they intend to do all sides of Napoleon's Invasion of Egypt, so maybe theres hope there too!

[@ankerboi]

@@NapoleonicWargaming thanks mate. Appreciate it. Will check them out :-) Would love for Perry's to do Marmelukes!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@ankerboi that's the dream! 😂

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Brigade Games do the best range I've seen, but they are expensive. Let's hope we see them in plastic one day!

[@Rache_777]

He is my ancestor born in Kavala Greece ❤😎proud of my lineage

[@metwalymagdy264]

I always though the Pasha was ethnic Albanian but after some research, it's not entirely clear. He was born in Kavala, Macedonia in modern day Greece. His mother came from Nusretli, a town near Kavala. Some say his mother was ethnic Albanian. His father was from Kavala but I've seen some attribute their origin to Konya, in modern day Turkey with Kurdish roots. His perception as an Albanian stemmed from his association with the Albanian contingent which he led in Egypt, though he identified himself as Turkish and he spoke Turkish, understandably as he was an Ottoman administrative.

[@kenikriezispirasspatas8982]

You forgot to mention when his soldiers came back in Graecia Greece to fight as well.

[@happy_childhood]

I am a Mongolian admirer of Mohammad Ali Pasha

[@georgecastriota1312]

did albanian units ever fight as line infantry? or were they always light infantry skirmish units

[@LuanZeqiri1]

Long and well made video ..well done...How do you know he had 96 children ? Never in any history book did i find that claim......I really love egyptian geopolitics in the 1800-1850 years...I did made a history video in my channel about the egyptian war in Arabia 1811-1818 against the wahabis.. in case you want more details about that

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I absolutely do! That's going on my weekend viewing list!

[@kenikriezispirasspatas8982]

That's why is called (DEL TE ARE) WORKOBLE LAND. From SA NDER LEKA ALE SI ANDER-"ALEXANDER EMATHIA THE GREAT, to ALI was same race same language.

[@kitchenkiing]

This man needs a Hollywood movie

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

He really does!

[@vorynrosethorn903]

Banastre Tarleton only had one child, an illegitimate daughter, who died young and without heir, he was quite the rake so likely had others (though likewise there was the possibility he was infertile given that he had a young lover followed by a young wife and despite an avowed love for women never sired a child with either of them, I doubt there was any lack of trying) but that was the only acknowledged one, I have also never heard such a rumour despite knowing several Tarletons from the main branch and his exploits and life being a topic of pride and interest to them (and I don't think they are the sort to much care of scandal, to put it lightly, so it likely would have been mentioned if the case). There was likely another Tarleton or some with a similar name or someone who looked a bit like him who died and no one off in Egypt bothered to send of a letter to Tarleton to see if it was his son and not ensign Carleton who happened to be wearing green and a tarleton hat.

[@adblue8955]

Man the mamluks didn't quit

[@charliefoxtrotter]

rarely acknowledged, but yes it is true (see W. Tarn), Alexander the Great had Albanian blood.

[@shebsheb8850]

WHOLE HISTORY IS ALBANIA ALBANIA BEST COUNTRY

[@gledianlalushllari9577]

The bashi bazouk used to wear fustanellas which is not a national dress, but a traditional one in Albania. It's how the southern Albanians used to dress in the past. In Greece, it's the national guard's dress because their revolution of 1821 was led by Arvanites who are just Orthodox Christian Albanians.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I didnt know that! Thanks!

[@gledianlalushllari9577]

@@NapoleonicWargaming Keep in mind though that we're in the Balkans, and we're always claiming one another's history, therefore Greek nationalists will always claim the Arvanites to be Greek, even genetically. Look at the ethnic map in myheritage and you'll see that modern Greeks and Albanians are basically the same people.

[@bassemaloud3282]

My afatar 😉😉

[@amacaffedelijorgji494]

don"t forget the Alecander the great ...ilyrian (proto Albanian)

[@kenikriezispirasspatas8982]

When (NA PA LEON)-(WE SAW A LION) we Arvanites SIPHNIAN SHIPNIJAN saw him the NAPOLEON HE CAME WITH US ARVANITE. We meet him at the beache to fight him but? But he and his soldiers spoke our language ALBANIAN. NAPOLEON-NA PA LEON- WE SAW A LION spoke Albanian better then Albanians themselves. THATS WHY he got his Name WE SAW A LION- NA PA LEON.

[@tomasrazelo3271]

Alexander’s mother Olympia what is a Malucia, which was a tribe of Greeks from the region of Epirus. Epirus had multiple groups within it, including Illyrians, and others. Pyrrhus was from Epirus and not Albania. Around Roman times you had resettlement of areas that had the population due to illness and parts of Greece needed repopulation, but even before that may be about 900 years before that during Roman time, they had settled Illyrians in parts of Greece to help balance out local skirmishes. in any case, the deep populated areas later, or in Greece, and in Albania, where the Byzantine emperors transported people from other parts of the empire. For example, the town of Himara in Albanian had been re-populated with Anatolian Greeks and others, while Albanians, or moving south forward into Greek areas and later many went to Italy during the ottoman conquest. Greeks and Albanian share the same background, and both seem to have the same roots from the Paliobalkan group. So many ancient figures are confused between Greek and Albanian. Regardless, those historical figures were Greek.

[@enver_hoxha1908]

Epirus=Albania Albania=Epirus

[@adrianog4148]

sure..😂

[@TheSgruby]

Black Powder - Last Argument Of Kings have list and rules for Ottomans.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Yeah I used that as the basis for some units (especially the cavalry and felaheen) but the nizam a jedid were more napoleonic(ish)

[@kenikriezispirasspatas8982]

DADRANELS of DARDANIA Mostly KOSOVO were Albanians as well. Go look at the grave yeards.

[@drinmaliqi9531]

Was mohamad ali pasha albanian or turkish

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

He was Albanian which was then part of the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire. He had a lot of proble s with The Sublime Porte (as the ruler of the Wmpire I'd sometimes called) eventually making Egypt basically independent

[@drinmaliqi9531]

@@NapoleonicWargaming nice. Are u a big fan of napoleon bonaparte

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@drinmaliqi9531 I am, although there are A LOT of issues with him, there are with any historical figure

[@drinmaliqi9531]

@@NapoleonicWargaming i am big fan of skanderbeg

[@aegeanmapping]

Ali Pasha🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

[@vanpallandt5799]

Misheard Marmalade!

[@n.b.zh.52]

Mohamed Ali Pasha Tepelena

[@Pr0FiXOfficial]

E ke ngatrru tjeter kush o ali pash Tepelena

[@kenikriezispirasspatas8982]

Pasha/SWORN By the way is not turkish. It IS ALBANIAN. PASHA BESOS. SWORN TRUSTED.

[@samantanulis721]

i hope one day they will tell the truth about napoleon bonaparte🇦🇱😭

[@milagroscortez690]

Ñ

[@sheryldalton8965]

I just listened to Alexander Dumas account of Ali in "celebrated crimes". What a brilliant schemer & manipulator he was, a ruthless silver tongue devil.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Absolutely! A guy that shaped events and people to what he wanted. Certainly not a good man, but I think a great one!

[@sheryldalton8965]

@@NapoleonicWargaming I agree. Despite his ruthlessness i had to admire his masterful cunning.

[@aegeanmapping]

🇦🇱🖤

[@eticetzyplie365]

Hi : Muhamet Ali : Pasha: From Albania: Not from Turk or Egypt : Mother Tereza: olso : From Albania: : Gonxhe Bojaxhi : she not from India: : Historian : most : Care : fot : truth Histori : ✌👑

[@PortaliRealiteti]

🇦🇱

[@nermainmerl6108]

Oldest nation or earth? Are you a special kid?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Ok, 2 things. Firstly, we dont talk like that here. We remain curious and respectful. Please don't bring Twitteresque insults here. Secondly, I cant think of an existing country (now or in 1807) that is older than Egypt?

[@nermainmerl6108]

​@@NapoleonicWargaming Are you kidding? First of all, he didn't become the ruler of Ancient Egypt. And the ancient Egyptians were completely "Hellenized" during the diadochi wars after Alexander the Great who among Olympia and Pyrrhus of Epirus you called Albanian! Rome and last the Arabian conquests from which almost no modern Egyptian carry similar DNA to. So how was the ruler of the older nation on earth? The nation is a very different thing than a country or a region. The Hebrew nation isn't just the borders of Israel and the Greek nation isn't just the current borders of Greece. He was the ruler of the Muslim Arab client-state of the Ottoman Empire. Albanians are a mix of ottoman settlers or Muslimified local Greek & Slavs (Roman citizens), you can potentially call him Albanian but calling Pyrrhus, Alexander the Great and his mother like that is an insult to history. Where did you even gather all of this information? Where are the references? For a 4 page paper at my university, I did recently, used 25 references (Around 13-15 minutes) and you talk for 54 minutes without a single one and start with disinformation like this? What am I even going to give you to read now? www.goodreads.com/book/show/7034694-pyrrhus Pyrrhus? www.amazon.com/Alexander-Great-Philip-Freeman/dp/1416592814 Alexander the Great? There are many books about the Greeks of Epirus who were forced to migrate to Greece by the Turk-Albanians before and during the Greek revolutionary war but are in Greek. There is MUCH information about Pasha's time in Greek literature, we Greeks even admire him for what he did. He was waiting for the Greek revolt to happen to make his own but it happened the other way around and because the ottomans were busy with Ali Pasha the modern Greek state was able to happen. Many of the Greek revolutionaries grew up by and fought in his army. He recruited "Kleftes" irregular bandits that later came to be the only army of the revolutionary state of Greece. So in his way made the revolution happen. I don't know about foreign literature about this and there's much Albanian propaganda to worry about.

[@visoku]

@@nermainmerl6108 What is wrong with you? Don’t you think you’re a little too passionate about this? First you call the guy “special” and just using the word like that is incredibly offensive, and then you proceed to write a whole dissertation with references while at the same time claiming that Albanians are Turkish settlers who mixed with Slavs and Greeks when nonsense like that is so unbelievable that I have a hard time believing that even you really believe that. Why all the hatred? Just relax a little, learn to listen to all sides and you’ll enjoy your life a little more that way. You might even make an Albanian friend some day and realize that they’re actually just like all other people..

[@nermainmerl6108]

@@visoku What is wrong with you ? Albanians are settlers who came from the caucasus, but the majority of them are muslimified greeks ,slavs and Turkish. Have some of albanian friends and 2 ex girlfriends. That doesn't change reality. If you don't believe me just do your research or a dna test. You're the one deep in fascist propaganda

[@visoku]

@@nermainmerl6108 You actually believe that Albanians come from the Caucasus just because there was a kingdom there with the same name at some point in history? You do realize that Scotland also used to be called Alba at some point time right? Did Albanians come from there too or did they come from the Caucasus? There is also Albany in the US. I guess they also came from the Caucasus. Like I said, I have a hard time believe that you really believing that. How do you explain that the Albanian language has nothing in common with languages in the Caucus? Or that it has so much in common with Greek, Latin (both modern and ancients versions) and shares many of non-latin words in the Romanian language? The commonalities are not just with respect to the actual vocabulary by the way, but also with respect to expressions and metaphors not to speak about customs and traditions. But forget about where Albanians come from. Do you ever wonder what would compel you to listen to a whole hour worth of history, only for you to write some silly comment and offend the person that put that whole thing together? Where do you think that comes from? Again, what's the matter with you? How do you have Albanian friends or girlfriends when you feel that way about them and who they are as a people? Just let it go man...

[@osmanrifat4335]

He was not Albanian, he was originally from Konya

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

No, he was pretty certainly from Albania. As I describe in the video his ancestry is quite well known.

[@lagjescuni5482]

Osman Rifat...he and his 7,000 soldiers were all Albanians actually the story of the war between turks Albanians and Mamluks in Egypt does not start with Mehmet Ali pasha but with another Albanian commander named Tahir.. all started when Hüsrev Pasha instead of paying the Albanians pointed the guns at them

[@Gamesbozz]

Nope

[@ahmadfathy7994]

Mohamed ali 🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬

[@Pr0FiXOfficial]

🇦🇱🇦🇱🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰 you forgot this too

[@adblue8955]

Pretty sure you can share

[@turkish3112]

Mohemed Ali pasha 🇦🇱🇽🇰

[@Gamesbozz]

He ruled Egypt but isn’t Egyptian

[@g.krasniqi3992]

Albanian warrior

[@ovidovid1990]

Did you get the memo? That's Europe for y'all, peasants and cave men came from europe and put the whole world in darkness. Do ur research lol

[@skorraq]

@@ovidovid1990 😊

[@xolomon383]

Muhammad ali was not an albanian, his ancestors had migrated from anatolia to kavala

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I think 90% Albanians would disagree! 🤣

[@turkish3112]

Muhammad ali pasha 🇦🇱🇽🇰 and Albanians greeks have simliar orgin

[@Gamesbozz]

Nope 👎 his parents were from Korçë in Albania

[@tkcem4438]

Mehmet Ali Pasa was Turkish not albanian. his family moved to kavala from konya. He even used Turkish symbols for his own state.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

He was 1000% Albanian my dude

[@tkcem4438]

@@NapoleonicWargaming no he wasnt, show me some evidence. Albanians like to claim many of our people including the great Ataturk.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@tkcem4438 I don't know about that, but yes Atatirk was definitely Turkish. I detail his young life in tge video, he was the son of an Albanian tobacco merchant. Tge Ottoman Empire kept pretty good tecords so his early life is well attested. The Egyptians certainly say he was Albanian too, and I don't think they would be part of a great cover up of Ali Pasha's heritage. www.egypttoursportal.com/muhammad-ali-pasha/

[@tkcem4438]

@@NapoleonicWargaming why delete my comments?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@tkcem4438 I've not deleted any comments bud

[@reyrey2468]

why you put alipasha turkish name muhamed he was not from turkie he was ethnic albanian from south

[@Mat8aios26]

You talking about Boria Iperos?

[@Gamesbozz]

@@Mat8aios26north Epirus is south albania mate