Narcissistic Mother - Role Play - CLINICAL ANALYSIS

[@indiebaby]

My mom 100% did the confusing fake "mothering tone" when she rejected my need for emotional support.

[@blueshoes915]

Yes! That part was so helpful. As much as I have learned, that explanation was new info. There’s so much to learn about this and his videos are so helpful. That fake tone would get me so confused but at the same time, she seemed so insincere. Now I know why! I hope you have people in your life to give you the emotional support now. Much love to you. 💕

[@sontrajamfemininegaze145]

Wow, I can't believe I was so thoroughly fooled by the fake mothering tone. I thought it was actually her being motherly. I guess it worked so well because a mothering tone is what a child WANTS to hear. A narcissist is so good at pretending to give people exactly what they want.

[@kaimanilei6036]

As someone who is constantly gaslit through childhood these role plays help us realize that what we experienced was true. Thank you.

[@Gwen13061]

This was so accurate that it made me feel ill.

[@blueshoes915]

It made me hate my mother even more. It comes in waves. The grieving process is long. I wish you well and hope you find peace. 💕

[@megzpittle3592]

Same 😔

[@LaGrossePaulik]

Me too... The analysis comments are useful because they help to generalize to other situations, and oh my it's so relevant. A big thought to anyone there suffering with a difficult relationship ❤️ especially during this festive season.

[@LaGrossePaulik]

@Cali Girl Lost In Space Me too, I recently put the word 'narcissistic' on my mother, it makes so much sense. If I may give an advice to protect yourself, maybe limit your videos' daily intake not to submerge yourself. Take good care ☺️

[@wisdomfortranscendence6220]

Idk how many times I’ve attempted to seek comfort in my mother about any every relationship and somehow it’s turned into a dramatic performance and I’m the antagonist??

[@rosemarrypolack5708]

It was me. Now I know what was wrong. Took practically a lifetime. Please keep these videos going. It is such a great tool for people like us. I wish this was something that I could have seen in my 20's or even 30's. I suffered wondering why things were so disfunctional with my own parents. I picked out a life with low self esteem, wanting validation and love that did not quite happen.

[@lacincilla2533]

Yes, same here. So helpful for me and for many people out there. Thank you 🙏

[@1Shawol416]

“I find the most definitive symptom of childhood trauma is our attempt to get emotionally dysfunctional people to be good to us” hit me like A WRECKING BALL. Please stop talking to me so directly, sir. ✋🏾 🛑

[@landline516]

It's our journey to undo the chain/cycle of ancestral neglect and abuse. Bless all of us who have suffered at the hands of those who were supposed to love and care for us but lacked the ability to do so.

[@rocamallorca4201]

“Seeking normalcy from them perpetuates our abuse and keeps us stuck.” This is exactly what I have been starting to unravel in therapy lately and this perfectly sums up what I was describing recently- thank you!!! 💕

[@adreethomas2844]

I always thought my grandma was the Codependent of the family she plays this role to a T. I thought she was the 'nice' one, she just plays a rescuer role. Shes damaged all the children severely and the Grandchildren. Shes a pathological liar and gaslight expert. I'm 99% she sexually abused me up to 2- 4 yrs old. She created violence perpetrated against my mother by her sons, police, my grandfather.. anyone. One time (on top of many countless attempts to get emotional support) I told her my bf sexually assaulted me and she said, "why did he think you would like that?" I and breathless in confusion. Also, "next time I guess you'll have to meet in public". I wanted support to dump him and she kept side stepping my remarks about it. She wanted me to stay with him. I kept staying with him because of the shame and confusion from childhood and he capitalized on my confusion, shame and self blame. I'm 42 and I've been on recovery & therapy for 7 years but I'm still trying to find my way in maintaining employment, coping with PTSD psychosis, and figuring out how to have boundaries. No relationships with any healthy or good people. One of my aunts who is the favorite but also morbidly obese, lost all her weight about a decade ago in her mid 40s. My aunt ended up sick in the hospital for something unrelated and my grandma used the fake mother voice and told her, "you are too thin, you better eat to get healthy" (she wasnt too thin at all) My aunt put on all the weight back.. 300#+ just like that, never went back to healthy eating. Sometimes I wonder if she has supernatural power to be this skillful at destroying her children.

[@jaklumen]

I was tag-teamed by my mother and late maternal grandmother, both of them playing hero/rescuer roles. But Grandma made me a golden child as a do-over son (hers died to Rh disease before immunization was fully developed). Mom took it as a narc injury and then doubled down on making me the scapegoat..the persecutor role. I'm an eldest child.. younger sister #1 seemed to fight me for that role as an alpha black sheep, if you will. I hope you get what I'm saying: two narcs in a family of origin resulted in some awful dysfunction, and I haven't even mentioned my aunts yet.. also covert narcissistic.

[@huttenof]

@@jaklumen I absolutely connect with you in your situation. Very similar scenario in my family dynamic.

[@mm669]

@@jaklumen I have it with three sisters. I am 57 and did not realize it until this year due to these videos. To me, this abuse is so subtle because there is no physical violence or yelling and name calling. It's all done in a sweet voice and "seems" so superficially caring even though in the pit of my stomach I can feel how mean the mom is to the son. Patrick should be doing national public service messages with these videos just like the "war on drugs" and anti-smoking ads!

[@katewoodley9103]

🙌 yes ! “Seeking normalcy from them perpetuates our abuse and keeps us stuck” soo true! This is great , I love these analyses!

[@amy_lee]

Wow this was powerful. Thank you so much for your content Patrick! You are a light worker. So much love for you

[@juliemoses1909]

This is enormously helpful. Ugh, my mom only enjoyed our conversations when I told sad stories about my misfortune. Good news was treated with silence. It got much worse after I pushed back at her BS.

[@mm669]

Brilliant video. I got more insight and clarity watching this then with 20 years of therapy. I definitely relate to the son's codependency. My mom would often take the other person's side when I came to her for emotional support. It was so confusing because as a codependent, I was always putting other's needs above my own so in my warped view, my mom was being generous and caring with her concern for others like the mom in this video telling the son that the girlfriend is passionate and going through a phase. In the beginning of the video, mother is telling the son that he is not attentive or aware (as a male) and at the end of the video, she's telling him he is "too sensitive". Talk about whiplash. Which is it? My mom would often do this. No wonder I had so much depression and anxiety growing up!

[@alicem3642]

Thank you for this role-plays, it is like reading "subtitles". Like really understanding the meta-language

[@bettyjean740]

This is so much like what I have gone through! Seeking advice or confirmation from my mother. Describing abuse and anger that my partner did. She either would say, poor" John" he had a pretty rough childhood , or is he working? Hes probably worried about something, also well that's not good for the kids!(giving a very hostile crazy look) The abuse was psychological and financial, verbal, sometimes I struggled to understand if it was abuse as I was told I'm too sensitive, that most " grown ups" dont cry just from being yelled and cursed at! So not only was I abused but also berated for my response to the abuse. These role play videos have helped me so much. I thank you! It is very hard to express and even understand oneself what living like this does to your mind.

[@peanutbutterpancakes7]

Omg yes! This is my blood "mother" to a T! Can you please make a video on how to handle and interact with these types of people?? So far your channel is the best one that I've came across and helps shows me that I'm not the one in the wrong!! Thank you so much I wanna cry.

[@modusoperandiunknown]

My mom frequently does the "why didn't I know sooner" line. When i got accepted into a graduate program and told her the good news, her first thought was "why didn't you ask me about doing a graduate program?" She took my happiness and turned it into how no one appreciates her and we should ask her advice because she has life experience yadayada. In reality, she was mad that I would be spending time studying rather than doing things with her. She wanted me to spend 10+ hours a week with her (insane!). More recently we shared that we would be building a house, and we told her we wanted absolutely no negative feedback. Which irked her, because that's all she can provide. 😹 We then asked her not to share this news with anyone as we didn't want my psychopathic brother (holocaust denier with violent tendencies and no boundaries) to know that we would be moving or where to. That's when she got really pissed. It was so unfair that she couldn't brag to all of her friends and family. Because her looking good was more important than our boundaries with my unstable brother. I had to reiterate 4x that I did not feel safe around him and did not want him to know where I'd be living. She eventually agreed. But not before guilting us by saying "you can't just disown people because they're a little weird." Denying the holocaust is waaaay more than "a little weird" and she could not grasp that. At this point we have no intention of disclosing our home location to her. The next thing she makes all about her is my lack of children. All her friends have no time for her because they are spending time with their grandkids. "When are you going to have kids? You don't have forever! I'll get the vaccine once you get pregnant." I think I'm finally ready to stop going to her for love and support. It's clear I wont get it, but I guess I fall into a "magical thinking" rut where I really want to share something and have her be happy for me. But I have to remember that she won't be.

[@creativeideator]

Thank you for the analysis. Specifically for the "labels" (in brackets). It is very difficult to identify what is what correctly in those dynamics.

[@Missgevious]

Absolutely- it’s so good to actually read what’s going on in this video because when you’re in it, you’re a dysregulsted mess and feel like you’re going crazy

[@LaGrossePaulik]

Wow. I've watched the roleplay from this video, and it hit me, but the analysis hit me harder. I can transfer this breakup situation with a lot of daily conversation with my own mother. So accurate, and painful... really need to work on my boundaries. The roleplay is an excellent tool because sometimes the theorical makes space for us to excuse the narcissistic person or doubt about it ('maybe they're not that bad... maybe I'm just making this out, they're not narcissistic'), but the roleplay gives good examples in a potential context. I'm already in therapy for BPD and GAD, so impairing I could not even maintain a job. Be strong everyone here 💪 it's hard but I'm sure we can make it eventually! 👋 from France 🇫🇷 Excellent channel, subscribed! It will certainly help me and a lot of people. Thank you for this quality work!

[@famousstar796]

In 6 months only 1 dislike!! That person guaranteed was a narc. But also that is the stuff of good work.

[@hiddenhermitess1064]

Wow Thank you for the break down of this conversation. I watched it before & I can understand it now. Thank you for editing this video so I can deeply understand what is really happening here. It is so familiar but I could never put my finger on it. Thank you very much. This will help many people.

[@chetbailey1529]

Superb video. One of the most effective explanations I have seen so far (and I have viewed many). Simple and extremely powerful. Thank you so much for putting this out there!! xx

[@trickynicky2118]

Very accurate video. I always wanted my mother to love me. I don't see myself as co-dependent, just wanting a normal loving parent. I'm no contact now, had wayyy too many conversations like the one you depicted.

[@mm669]

You were so smart to catch on so early that the conversations were toxic. That's probably why you are not codependent. Good for you!

[@KitKat-gw4rh]

This is making me sick. I'm so sorry for everyone going through something like this 💔 sending strength.

[@Ineffable_ponds]

This is very validating. My therapist keeps trying to get me to see how narcissistic my mother is. I always just thought she was emotionally immature but that really highlighted how her gaslighting is more narcissistic.

[@devlinfae]

I’m extremely thankful to my therapist for linking me to another one of your videos, as I find that they’re really helping me understand my past and validate my trauma. It’s terrifying going No Contact, but liberating and motivating when I finally realized that I CAN survive without her. My boyfriend’s family treats me like the Healthy scenarios in these videos, and sometimes I just wish I could open up to them and actually get to know them without my trauma getting in the way.

[@Hippowdon121]

These role plays are SOOOO useful. It's one thing to be asked what my parents modelled growing up, but, well, I simply don't have the vocabulary or outside perspective on it to give a good answer. But when I see a role play, I can point at it and say 'that's what happens with them'. This one made me think of when I try to be more vulnerable and share that I'm feeling hurt as a way to get someone to apologise and not hurt me again: Last week my boss was domineering and mean to me, "the only reason you're here is because of me! You will do what I say! No negotiating!". I called him about it a few days later because it really upset me and sent me into a depressed funk - my way of broaching the subject is to say 'when you said that to me... I felt really, really sad, and hurt, and angry. I don't want you to talk to me like that again.' And he replied, "Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. But you're wrong." and proceeded to explain why it was my fault and how I caused him to say that. I try to be more open to people who I know are emotionally messed up, when they hurt me. It's Note #10 of the video - the son tries to get validation by explaining more. This long conversation ended up with me shouting at him to not treat me that way again and hanging up on him, though... eheheh.

[@nazcarcup]

Wow....I can't thank you enough. Videos like this help me in inexplicable ways.

[@jasminenichols7782]

Wow I was so shocked by this !!! My mother is a covert narcissist , and my childhood was all emotional absence. And more. I ended up getting with a man for 10 yrs and couldn't take it anymore because he was sooo toxic and abusive. My mom ended up secretly messaging him when we brokeup and they were both saying things they shouldn't have. She's been caught with it and only told me to use it against him when he was slandering her first

[@nicholascohen3060]

I can't express how helpful these videos are to me. I've been no-contact w my narc mom for a while, and trying to get therapy for the c-ptsd. Due to having to move several times and insurance problems, it's been difficult getting in depth help. Hopefully my next move will be the last, but until then these videos are incredibly validating, clear, and useful. Thank you.

[@js6546]

Thank you Patrick. Your videos are so empowering. Even though this is about a mother, it helps to unpack more than 50 years of wondering what parts of me I needed to change to make Dad like me. I have stayed with a covert narcissist for 26 years because this is the model that feels normal.

[@mm669]

Magical thinking and codependency. Thanks Patrick. I did not know about magical thinking until this video.

[@Vivixl798]

Do you have a video on how to deal with them and how to help yourself feel less angry and upset after interactions ?

[@lucianacunningham4029]

There is a great book called Will I ever be Enough I think it’s about healing as a daughter of a narcissist mother

[@georgies347]

This was amazing, very much my mum. It's so helpful since it's very difficult to get into a toxic persons mindset

[@psycherevival2762]

So helpful to see toxic behaviours in action! I love the analysis! Thanks for making these. I’ve subscribed and am excited to see more!

[@mjbreitmeyer6021]

This video is so helpful! Thank you, Patrick, for dissecting it for us, so well done and accurate. It really allows me to see how and where it resonates in my own experience with my toxic mother. You're helping all of us who are watching your videos to see clearly and take the right steps/action. So grateful!

[@karenbenz9340]

Thankyou for your content; it is one thing to understand the theory and terms for the narcissist and interactions that so many other channels describe, but quite another thing to have it all laid out in real terms the way you do it. It helps immeasurably!!!

[@Lainabell1496]

Thank you so much for these role play videos! I just found your channel today but it made me realize why those gut feelings are right.

[@newworldastrology1102]

Ironically, letting conversations be focused on them, spares us from further trauma, since sharing something personal is so often used against us, dismissed, etc.

[@laurenbaquet2207]

this was too real! but an amazing format that helps me reflect and break down my own patterns with my mother!

[@elisabeth8708]

I would love to see this video countered with a healthy interaction example as a second half or part two.

[@elisabeth8708]

@@patrickteahanofficial ha! Wow thank you, just watched that one and it was great!

[@YosoyMouth]

Thank you all of this video, Mr. Patrick. This has saved both mine and my growing family’s life.

[@Jayecary]

Yes I stayed in a physically and emotionally abusive relationship for years longer than I should have because both his parents and mine gaslighted, shamed, and blamed me for his behavior. My mother went so far as to say if I divorced him, then she would take his side. After that convo, I stayed for a couple more years. I eventually left him when my therapist told me that he believed I was in danger and there was a high probability I was “going to die” if I stayed.

[@carmelhughesparolya899]

Yes I know a mother exactly like this as in mine 😯I already feel bad for thinking this 🤐

[@rosemarrypolack5708]

Carmel...Don't doubt it for a minute. Know it is a truth!

[@carmelhughesparolya899]

@@rosemarrypolack5708 thank you 🙏

[@rosemarrypolack5708]

@@carmelhughesparolya899 You are welcome. I pray that you will heal, too, from this.

[@blueshoes915]

Please do not feel bad, you can feel proud you figured it out. 💕

[@rosemarrypolack5708]

@@blueshoes915 Yes! Nice thought. I pray for her💚

[@rapunzelmane9592]

Another excellent role-play video. These really illustrate the cowardly techniques of the abuser so well, far more effectively than just listing behaviours. 👍

[@josephpress1235]

Run the hell away.My response to any child of mine that comes to me about any relationship that make them feel less than.Girlfriend,or friend or teacher or anyone.

[@ednabunker1498]

This brings up a painful memory--thank you for making it make sense

[@citizendc9]

These examples are fantastic.

[@ean5]

Wow why is this this accurate...I just went through that selective forgetting & magical thinking yesterday...I felt so stupid after that ...like how can I forget...and hope again that she'll understand and validate...and possibly have a more better relationship😀

[@claireberry3971]

Omg! Omg! Incredible watching this iall resonates with interactions with my narc mum over and over.. so enlighting watching from observer perspective. Alot of it is word for word exchanges! Wow!

[@mollyjosie5835]

I just thought of this idea that many people who are stuck in toxic positivity/ fake it till you make it/ forgive at all costs mindset could actually be using extreme versions of magical thinking. Just a thought. Love your videos!

[@SynchroDiaries]

Incredible! This is helping me understand things so much more.

[@mayso1104]

This reminds me of my twin sister. Only that instead, she uses a mocking tone, instead of a supporting tone. Could you do a video on this? In my sisters case, the triangle is me as the oppressor, others as the victim, but projecting herself as understanding the “pains” of me and then as the rescuer of others by “doing the right thing” and calling me out on it.

[@christinabott-lamb1781]

So deep. I'm glad I finally "broke up" with both my parents recently. Mother overt Narcissist and Father was covert Narcissist. Double trouble and double trauma. But I'm healing daily 😌

[@danacetz1162]

Oh boy, waiting and waiting ....did that ...I know she will not change.

[@zoekothe3457]

I love the analysis... the way you break down every bit of the exchange. It gives me flashbacks to some of my mom’s behavior when she was alive. She wouldn’t do it all the time it was inconsistent....usually if she was angry or felt like she was losing her emotional grip over us. But boy when she turned it on, it was mind boggling and so maddening.🙄 Thanks Patrick, you’ve helped me realize what I kind of new all along, but was so hard to admit!

[@mm669]

The inconsistency is why I kept going back because every once in a while I'd get that crumb of emotional support I was so hungry for. I truly hope Patrick makes many more of these videos. They are an amazing learning tool.

[@zoekothe3457]

@@mm669 Yes... so true... keeps you on the hook for sure. Me too...I love his videos....So helpful!🤗

[@fuzzyecheveriaharmsii]

Is the Mother in this covert? Like "I'm not selfish. I'm a rescuer/martyr."?

[@jaklumen]

Yes, in my experience. Folks like The Little Shaman and Meredith "Inner Integration" Miller call it the hero covert narcissist, and I find both my mother and late maternal grandmother fit this definition very well. So what I get from Patrick's clarification is that a hero covert narc parent plays the rescuer role to "save" the child from himself/herself. My mother would say she was just trying to "help" and my enabler father would back it up by saying she's a "solutions person" and "that's just how she shows love and concern". The "victim" doesn't have to be an abusive partner; narc Mom would generalize things to everyone: "stop burdening other people with your problems!" And thinking on the two women who helped me early on, who were daughters of narcissistic mothers, while Patrick is portraying a son, I suspect this scenario could fit women who have narc moms.

[@Vivixl798]

Can you do one on what a normal mother would say please , just so I can get a idea of what a better relationship is like , I'm always on the look out to not be used and it's hard for me to tell ❤️❤️

[@wingwmn217]

Hi Patrick, thank you so much for these videos. You are amazing ❤ Could you do a video about a Narc / Codependent Mother/Parent who views their child as a sort of surrogate spouse? Or one who puts their child in the middle of both parents, as if they’re the secret fix all / mediator. Just be real helpful to see your clinical analysis of that sort of roleplay, what to look out for and how to improve.

[@jacquelinedawn9510]

Wow, so powerful. Thank you so much.

[@MissSarahGM]

Great video Patrick. I would like to reconnect with my mom, she's still very much in the victim role, I don't know how to do that. I am aware I can't expect the same relationship as if she was not self-absorbed.. But how to navigate it? Without abandoning myself.. Also you mention having a healthy community to support each other's truth, do you have any place/site to recommend? That would be very helpful. Thank you!

[@uranmui]

Great analysis! And the mother's frown is exactly correct.

[@raquelm2004]

Thank you, you are wonderful, and help so much!!!

[@axebox]

Wow. Thank you for this.

[@speedypete4987]

This is brilliant and so accurate and so helpful thank you.

[@ruthvansandt9713]

I am no longer codependent anymore! While I’ve never had this exact scenario, SO MUCH of this was right on. In fact, I’m kinda amazed the son realized the gf was toxic at all. And that he risked pushing back with the NM at all... it’s taken me until the last year to either realize or pushback.

[@petedeards]

Similar to when my sisters bf cheated on her and my parents became extremely angry with me and told me that I was being “nasty” because I told her to break up with him because she could do better…

[@Valeria-sx7uv]

Oh, yeah, I do stuff like "seek mother's attention and advice even when you know it will backfire" every time. And although my mother doesn't have NPD, she acts a lot like everything about her, like she is a wounded scared child and I must comfort her as her daughter. And she likes to use shame bazooka too, like she is trying to protect me from danger or something, and I am ungrateful

[@rovert624able]

The amount of times you quote my mother/father verbatim in those videos is acary

[@alonzomosley7]

My mother never made a positive comment about me ,my ex was perfect.My mother said I was too passionate and no one else would tolerate me .I believe my mothers misguided advice prolonged my loveless marriage by at least 20 years .I really wished I had not listened to my mothers advice .

[@cathylegg530]

These are brilliant! 👍

[@christinecraze]

this was my life!

[@spectraamunari9059]

Spot on!

[@katieoliver646]

I was in a toxic relationship. Some years after the breakup my mother tried to make the breakup about her and how hard it was on her and how abusive it was for her. She never lived with him or spent any time with him.

[@TheManlol12]

My magical thinking has me wanting to sit her down in-front of this video to get her to see her ways.

[@creativearena]

Gosh this is so classic !

[@louise2091]

Thank you. This is so helpful. Could you please demonstrate a healthy response? I often struggle to know how best to respond when my daughter's come to me with problems like this.

[@louise2091]

@@patrickteahanofficial Thankyou. I'm right on it.

[@breezyvibe]

thanks for a GREAT video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@blueshoes915]

I bet the one thumbs down is a narcissistic mother. 🙄

[@fireupyourheartfortruth]

watch this one thru my last acct i had. Really great work. You are a good actor too❤️💃❤️

[@fireupyourheartfortruth]

This is really accurate and so sad.

[@sonias9722]

Yes, but being active puts you in the risk of being called too sensitive again. And by the time you often feel too tired to take another hit

[@allison8814]

I appreciate these analyses so much . I remember you staring to stop the video if the written words time out but when I do it, they are difficult to read as the screen changes on my end. Is there a way that you could extend the time out feature ? These are valuable to me.

[@danacetz1162]

Yeah...magical thinking... Maybe this time...

[@marinelalarsen3736]

Sooooo true❤️ thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@ceeceeobh2707]

This sounds a lot like my mother but also sounds just like me in my last toxic relationship... oh my god

[@lanieeperkins783]

while this specific conversation is something ive personally never experienced, my mom says some of these things to me and my young siblings. im 13! i know she has a little bit of aspergers, and i think i might too, but this is different.

[@barbaragremaud3499]

I'm glad you are becoming aware of it early in your life ❤️️. Stay safe and trust yourself and know that how you are feeling is important and valid.

[@lanieeperkins783]

@@barbaragremaud3499 oh wow thank you so much!!

[@twinflames_111]

Dear Patric, can you make a role play on an empath who actually suppresses and does not see his/ her narcissist side (shadow). The session between an empath and a therapist. With clinical analysis. Thank you!

[@annaraskolnikoff9865]

This is gold... Sadly.

[@everydayarty]

Very helpful

[@memedemon6273]

Oh my god this is my mom

[@maryfowles807]

This is so accurate!!!

[@inakale8005]

'why you didn't tell me' sounds more like blame and shaming the son for he didn't appreciate his mother enough to share it right away, how 'good son should'.

[@kikalarubia]

One thing that scares and worries me... Is that if i decide to leave the family (mainly my mum and dad) And set boundaries, will I end up being the same as her with my children? My mum did this with her mother and she clearly did not learn how to empathetic in the process, or anything about herself. How do I not become her.

[@9sam9mmm9]

This was too real. Couldn't get passed 2 minutes. Still trying to get myself to stop expecting anything else from my mother.

[@nahmastay15]

So relevant, thks! What's your advice then, should we stop talking to them? if they keep crossing our boundaries and aren't willing to respect us and evolve.

[@alicem3642]

And need good models of health child reaction too

[@sssttt2211]

Why adult son need to tell mom his decision ? He is doing it because he is not willing or afraid to take full responsibility about his decision to break up. Come what may and stand for his decision. If had he been bold, he would simply decide and act on that decision without asking mom for whom it's nothing to do whom he marries as long as she is not affected by marriage. Involving many parties in decision create such issue. Ideally only ask person's opinion about your decision if that person will get affected by your decision.

[@thedon5786]

Sorry mom I felt a little lost and thought you, (my giver of LIFE) could help me out. But you're right, I'm hurting all the parties too much and being selfish. Sorry again mom, my bad.

[@MPhillips-u9d]

What if u have a parent who refuses to talk to you about anything that involves my feelings. She says she can't handle it because her nerves and she's old?

[@muskduh]

thanks

[@itsallaboutnothing2672]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@musicaismylovica]

This makes me feel gross. Thanks for making it though.

[@nichollebraspennickx943]

Oh HELL NO… IF SOMEONE IS SCREAMING (tactic used daily in my house of origin)… abuse!