I cant belive people are debating if Naruto is planetary in 2024
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Your telling me💀
@weirdboymarc77534 ай бұрын
If you understand the power system and lore all you really need is his fight in The last with tonari and baryon mode with ishiki if you like the series but don't like kaguya or her scaling
@goldenbankia54 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue what about people who think one piece verse is stronger than narutos verse
@bonzoluv4 ай бұрын
People in 2024 still dont know that planetery is the easiest lowball possible for Naruto? Kcm2 just automatically has that AP off of the Kurama statemwnts over the course of the show
@icedragon63454 ай бұрын
a low ball that a soccer ball is higher
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@lightninghands30714 ай бұрын
They just say that naruto only has statements and no feats
@bonzoluv4 ай бұрын
@@lightninghands3071 cope, nit dragon ball can't destroy earth. Nothing contradicts it so it stands
@Archer1704 ай бұрын
@@bonzoluvYou speak engrish?
@Champeonic4 ай бұрын
KingLion can't combat this video 😭
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I mean…true
@weirdboymarc77534 ай бұрын
Fr I seen Six's stream be4 his video and my whole anime power scale starts with DBZ and db so I had to think about Naruto and it's system and went yeah depends what planet but he's fs at least small
@daquavious77434 ай бұрын
Real
@onizukasensei53214 ай бұрын
unfortunately the way he has been combatting videos like this is "i dont care the only question i asked is has naruto ever destroyed a planet in an attack or threatened a planet with one" his stubborn ass is just leeching onto this question
@Mgent2214 ай бұрын
Who !?
@damianmorningstar31504 ай бұрын
Antis -"We NeVeR SeE hIm BlOw Up A plAnEt" Ok if he blew up earth where would the story take place this is not Dragon Ball where destroying a planet can be fixed easier then a trip to the corner store so they have to be a lot more tactful then just making a world go boom to flex their muscles
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
👍
@sageofthickcalves4 ай бұрын
Out here SPITTIN
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Always brother
@Oreo_1664 ай бұрын
Have gotten thru only about a 1/3 of this vid so far, and it’s already a W! You’ve definitely got a new sub after this! Also, crazy enough, there are now MHA fans claiming Deku and Shigaraki could individually beat characters like KCM2+SM Naruto and Blind, Resurrected Madara… ☠️☠️☠️
@espritsaincorpsain4 ай бұрын
With only a rasengan, you can create a lot of very powerful technics, that jutsu is incredible
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True
@ay00wtf4 ай бұрын
Bro the amount of people that says he isn’t actually believes it 💀
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
Fax, even KCM2 Sage Mode is planet level, I got proof, too, 3 of them to be exact 1. Kurama at 50% is stated to be able to destroy the world and obliterate it, Naruto has many things based off of Buddhism, so this means the planet, but what are statements if there are no feats? 2. He makes up a big portion of the 10 Tails, if not the majority, due to being able to take on a bunch of Bijuu at once which are amped by Obito 6 Paths too, this is important since the 10 Tails should upscale the God Tree at least, which roots are calced small planet at least according to this vid, so the tree itself should be planet level, and Kurama scales to this at 50%, and by extension BSM Naruto 3. BSM Naruto amped the Shinobi Alliance by over 3x, meaning 4, the Shinobi Alliance members should be as strong the shinobi that powered the Chakra Canon which could destroy the moon, yes its about 10-20% hollow but I doubt the shinobi know that so likely destroy a full moon The shinobi that power the Chakra Canon are 112 by doing the math The Shinobi Alliance by the time Naruto amped them was about half, full was 80,000 so half should be 40,000 40,000/12=357.142857143 357.142857143x1.24e29J(GBE of Moon)=4.42857143 × 10^31 joules or Small Planet level 4x(4.42857143 × 10^31J) = 1.77142857 × 10^32 joules or Small Planet+ level Naruto does this casually and still fights a lot after this, so planet level at even 50% of KCM2 Sage Mode is supported Also I took this argument from Mr Crafty Scales, so its definitely not orginal from me
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Nah it’s def consistent and you don’t even need BSM, you can make a case for KCM2
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
@@VirhtueFr
@trell_a4 ай бұрын
Posting this before I watch the video :) 1) Base Momoshiki in Boruto Novel 4 literally destroyed an entire solar system after he found a chakra fruit on one of its planets disgusting. He first freezed all life on the "Earth" of that Solar System, without using Shinjutsu then... He then destroys the Sun of that Solar System. Destroying a star requires more than star-levels of energy I believe, as he seemingly obliterated it. Naruto as an adult is boxing with Fused Momoshiki in Base, or at least parrying off and dodging most of his attacks... 2) A feat for teen Naruto... Juubidara launches the Infinite Tsukyomi, which is a planetary level genjutsu... He also uses, what I think is called, "divine-deep forest emergence" to spread the God-tree to parts of the world where the moonlight isn't shining. We also never got to see the full-extent of 3-eyed Madara's capabilities 3) Kaguya kinda "customized" her own dimension. I don't wanna say she created it, but she added stars, you can argue Solar Systems as well... Teen Naruto is boxing with this Kaguya and does well against her on numerous occasions during their fight... And then of course, Naruto as an Adult just scales above that tier. (In Base, but I wont get into that and piss some people off) 4) Otsutsuki literally go from Planet to planet eating chakra-fruit, which is a gathering of all chakra on that planet. So that's a Moon Level-Large Planetary feat, depending on how you look at it. 5) Kiba and Akamaru's dynamic marking scale beneath Naruto, which if you lowball is a star-level. Also, Hanzo vs Itachi when?😶I got finals next week then Im done with school. and Im finna be out of school for 2 n a half, I need sumn spicy fr
@peacepipe66954 ай бұрын
'teen naruto' was empowered by a literal shinobi god and wouldve been mopped by kaguya alone.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I may have a video with that in it soon👍
@trell_a4 ай бұрын
@@peacepipe6695 What does that have to do with anything I said.
@peacepipe66954 ай бұрын
@@trell_a just letting you know he wasn’t just casually throwing hands with kaguya. She wasn’t even at full power until she teleported team 7 into her realm where she turned into a massive black orb. Where even touching her was instant death. It was definitely a multi phase boss battle where Naruto’s clones were plot armor. Because how does the most advanced form of byakugan not differentiate clones. It’s kishimotos mistake.
@if77234 ай бұрын
@@peacepipe6695 Because Kaguya is an idiot and insane. She's playing with half a deck of cards at most after being sealed for so long and she doesn't seem like she was the sharpest crayon in the box before that.
@DarkEye-re9zg4 ай бұрын
Naruto and Sasuke both are also stated to have obtained the strongest power in the valley of the end in fuu no sho booklet. They potentially surpassed kaguya there only.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Anime_Drip4 ай бұрын
Can you guys send me that Statement? I never heard of it. That would be great
@hellaentertainment75734 ай бұрын
@loko tried to fight this and King Lion put him in the Daikokuten stay safe Virhtue 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
He tries to put me there, I’ll turn him into Isshiki
@GiantsLandon4 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@band09454 ай бұрын
W video, these people don’t even watch or read naruto but wanna talk about how strong he is, and it’s always other fandoms💀with weaker verses
@veasey39974 ай бұрын
Actually you’re wrong about Goku. Krillin was genuinely worried about him destroying Earth against Cell.
@Dilllonm4 ай бұрын
What? How is he wrong lol are you slow ?
@feelgoodfandom53533 ай бұрын
He was worried about it that’s not the same as doing it
@vegetasbiggestopp659Ай бұрын
@@feelgoodfandom5353The problem with this is.Dragon ball has had multiple statements from characters saying that they were having to be careful with how they where fighting because they would destroy earth.In Naruto we never even had a moment like these all we have is a data book about the nine tails being able to turn the world to ash which is vague as hell
@feelgoodfandom5353Ай бұрын
@@vegetasbiggestopp659 kaguya was literally going to destroy an entire time space and reform it, toneri had the power to destroy the planet while not even at his best. Naruto scales up to and even beyond these characters who were planetary plus. As for the statements we actually don’t have that many. We have vegeta claiming he could wipe out the planet… Frieza failing to do so cause he held to much power back (which kinda contradicts vegeta cause like….how could he have held back enough power to fail if vegeta with a fraction w speck of friezas power could succeed if he had that much control Hai transformations are pointless.) And the statements during the cell saga about these characters potentially blowing up the earth if there strongest attacks hit head on. None of them have successfully done it but there are statements And there are plenty of statements from naruto foes of them having powers of whole cosmos being able to destroy planets. Hell the ten tails alone ha so much power it reads as a planet on to itself it’s not just one data book article
@vegetasbiggestopp659Ай бұрын
@@feelgoodfandom5353 that was a haxs.Character don’t scale to theif haxs
@mightguy31184 ай бұрын
Naruto has definite scaling that scales above plantery and him being plantery is a touchy debate yet Luffy hasn't fought anyone that's showed anything near plantery and people throw out plantery Luffy with no proof 😭 Naruto getting underrated
@band09454 ай бұрын
Exactly and it’s mainly the op fan wanna talk about powerscale when it’s been known one piece is the weakest out the big 3 and always will be, the other verses are too much ahead
@AjayiDaniel-xu9tjАй бұрын
This is coming from a one piece Stan cuz I got Luffy at multi continental, so it pisses me off when people say "Ohh kaido scales to whitebeard and Luffy beat him so he's planetary" Which makes no fucking sense given the context within the verse
@GeneFOX704 ай бұрын
Juubito removing the God Tree (a kinetic energy based feat which made him weaker) and making it grow was calced at planet level.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True
@ShesBearynice4 ай бұрын
Did he do this with physical force, or anything that scales to how hard he can hit you with chakra? Can you explain that? And are you certain the mechanics of his abilities make that transfer of strength logically consistent with the events of the story in that regard? Or are you just saying that because kids calced a number on a fake scenario, that it scales to the stats of the characters in the story that doesn’t even acknowledge those kid’s argument or ideas? 😂
@jordanjackson88733 ай бұрын
@ShesBearynice Toneri literally sliced the moon in half in seconds, and he straight-up moved the moon out of Earth's orbit. Naruto beat him with a single punch. They even showed the Ten Tails'(first form) chakra level on screen as a small planet.
@jkunimage41874 ай бұрын
How can you argue that naruto isn’t planet level? Like how? The only anti argument they have for it is “But he didn’t do it on screen tho” but they’ll accept goku, ichigo, luffy, jjk, etc being planet level or higher even tho these guys have never destroyed a planet on screen ever. Textbook bias. Naruto is base line planet level at the lowest
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Point blank period
@ImchautzuCHAUTZU4 ай бұрын
Who’s said JJK is planetary?
@jkunimage41874 ай бұрын
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZU You’ve never heard of planetary jjk?
@ShesBearynice4 ай бұрын
Okay. I’ll give it a shot. Naruto is not likely to have attacks that can deal damage equal to what we would expect to represent “planet level” because he has no feats of or comparable that relate to his attack method. Dude attacks using chakra. But just because some of his attacks do X damage, doesn’t mean all of his attacks do X damage, right? Well, worse, none of his “planetary” attacks actually scale to his attack potency. Think of characters in fiction as video game characters with rpg stats. Naruto’s Special Attack stat (the damage he can deal with his non-physical/super power attacks) is completely separate from: 1. The damage output that would be “listed on a spell” of his. 2. The “mana cost” of said spell. A good way of looking at it is that special attack stat is what magnifies the base damage of the attack he uses. Naruto’s rasengan is stronger than Konohamaru’s, and it’s not because Naruto puts more chakra into it, it’s because Naruto has better damage output than Konohamaru, he’s literally in and of himself STRONGER. Now, if you’re still following, let’s look at a few examples in this video. Madara doesn’t scale to small planet level via the feats in the video because they all look at the consequences of attacks that not only are not straight up offensive damaging attacks, but worse, their force is the consequences of the size of the moving object, not a direct product of the user’s attacking strength. There’s also no statements that make it explicitly necessary to keep in mind that force, just bad powerscaling epistemology. Sasuke’s Chibaku Tensei moving is not comparable to Sasuke’s LIGHTNING BLASTS! The hell? Dude pays 5 million Chakra Units to inexplicably manifest either Indra’s Arrow or a Meteor, and you think the GBE in making the meteor is equal to the force of a lightning blast he made? Just because it uses the same fuel source?? Etc. Naruto isn’t planet level because none of the story explicitly states that he can destroy something of that magnitude or deal that much damage through any real method of attack. Best we have is the Toneri thing, which you can argue is just moon level. 😂 There’s a decent crack at a real argument against planetary Naruto. I feel like you can choose to believe either side and still be reasonable, especially because it’s a topic based in subjectivity, but you wanted an argument.
@jkunimage41874 ай бұрын
@@ShesBearynice it’s an argument I guess? Not a good one but I did ask for one so yeah. I just think we’re way past those types of arguments is what I’m really trying to get at. Kinda like the goku only being planet level stuff. We’re way past arguing that he’s only planet level
@joeker52082 ай бұрын
10:33 that’s not exactly BSM. This isn’t the form he used against Juubito, it’s just KCM & SM. He used KLM against Juubito. But as we know, Naruto and Kurama work in unison for KLM, whereas KCM just has Naruto using a portion of Kurama’s chakra, which is very much the case, as Kurama separates himself from Naruto before the fight starts
@omkarpatil5922Ай бұрын
can u do one for ichigo ?
@VirhtueАй бұрын
I’m not sure, I may do a Naruto vs Ichigo video eventually
@omkarpatil5922Ай бұрын
@@Virhtue 👍🏾 I'll be waiting for that video
@MyNindo20003 ай бұрын
I'm hoping for an actual Naruto Part 3 and/or reboot after Boruto ends.
@Virhtue3 ай бұрын
Interesting, maybe a prequel
@asupanova67564 ай бұрын
The naruto planetary debate in 2024 is funny af. I though we knew by now he's been beyond that but clearly not. Dudes were even tryna argue and say boros from opm beats naruto because naruto never destroyed a planet despite the same thing being the case for boros. I can't believe the naruto not planetary argument is a thing still all these years later
@JahWithTheBarz4 ай бұрын
I've heard and argued with people who say the LNs and Databooks are either too hyperbolic or not canon. And can't be used in arguments. Then you have people who want to see visual feats and don't accept statements as proof. Or they'll say that the moon was hollow, so when Toneri was going to use it to destroy the earth, and that the moon wasnt that big, since it was made from the earth.
@nbell00892 ай бұрын
All headcanon and false rebuttals, the light novels, even the games are literally stated by kishimoto to be more canon than the anime and manga
@tarelkm4 ай бұрын
The reason ppl argue against it is simple…views
@band09454 ай бұрын
Yup
@youssefibrahim54962 ай бұрын
correction for the title: naruto is beyond planetary
@jason152124 ай бұрын
Only thing I’ll say is that we have to be caring with “cutting” feats. It’s a different type of “destruction “
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True
@theheadlessglen4 ай бұрын
Some of these comments man 💀💀💀
@kaizel22644 ай бұрын
Kurama Being 20-30% of the ten tails even though it is just 50% is hideous
@urcitenieja8484 ай бұрын
Toneri also used the same attack that cut the moon twice so there is possibility he could spam it and cut planet to pieces
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Yes it could happen
@lakithchandra89014 ай бұрын
Awesome video man
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it king!
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND4 ай бұрын
The Tenseigan was supposed to be able to tank the impact of the Moon smashing onto the planet. Naruto shattered it in not even his full power.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Bro is consistently planetary using so many avenues
@Lil__blood__1224 ай бұрын
Can u do adult sakura vs every akatsuki member?
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Weird you ask this, was gonna do a topic like this
@ozzymadnius4 ай бұрын
Damn man, ive never been this early before that there were no other comments 😂 Cheers!
@sonicnetwork29444 ай бұрын
I was always here 👽
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Love that my man
@AidenB10104 ай бұрын
naruto should easily scale to solar by the end of shippuden and low multisolar as an adult, baryon mode would just be higher into multisolar. you can wank him higher but this level of scaling is a really conservative scale for him thats not too low or too high, idk how people on anitok have managed to dispute this
@nelsonw94834 ай бұрын
Wtf
@Forte4134 ай бұрын
Bro wtf are you smoking? None of these characters reach solar system levels of AP
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Agree heavily
@GJAkuo4 ай бұрын
@@Forte413creation feats is = to destruction feats. Actually, u can argue its greater. So…with this in mind, Momoshiki has created parallel universes. N base naruto is boxing up fused momoshiki. N the reason why this is valid, is because u need universal amounts of chakra to create universes. Otherwise ur body would just implode. Example: Madara couldnt handle the amount of chakra kaguya had, hence why he exploded. Now, with this in mind as well, Both Sasuke AND Naruto are boxing up and damaging FUSED MOMOSHIKI. Thats why there r solar system metas for Naruto.
@weirdboymarc77534 ай бұрын
Yeah like I said I'm not caught up to 2🟦V but I agree
@arinzepaul78994 ай бұрын
Finally, people with the understanding of power scaling. I'm sick and tired of people saying naruto is star to solar system lvl with no evidence what so ever even to the fact than in onw of tempest videos i saw someone sayin Sakura is planetary cus she was able to harm kaguyah whuch is shit its just like saying azula is moon-planet lvl cus she was able to kill aang in avatar. And the same person said Delta is star lvl cus her attach could kill Naruto. Thats cap.
@hiddenmarco4 ай бұрын
I thought u were gonna add that toneri also just split the moon in half and got beat by naruto that woulda been even more icing on the cake
@Robbieuchiha4 ай бұрын
Off topic but question do all susanoo have the yasaka beads because madara sasuke and itachis all have and they also all have swords so are those two weapons all susanoo have im just wondering for Shisui susanoo and sarada in the future because I think Shisui and sarada should have yasaka beads and swords if all the others have them
@icedragon63454 ай бұрын
hes more like sun-solar depending on what you us has ur fax of his scaling
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@techgear61833 ай бұрын
This guy basically saying because an ant can lift 100x it's weight, it's going to take 100x is weight to squish it, not because a character can blow a planet up makes them as durable as planet.
@nbell00892 ай бұрын
He only missed explaining the concept of energy systems, which yes would make this the case. Universal Energy systems like reiastu, chakra, ki, nen are multi-purpose and fluid. Whatever goku can output he must be capable of using defensively because that same amount of energy is and can be used towards his durability. This same concept exists in naruto, bleach and bunch other fictional stories If an ant used chakra to lift up 1000 pounds, it can also use chakra to defend itself from something that is 1000 pounds falling on it. Relativity scaling(or more specifically converting AP to DC and physical stats) only works in fictional verses with a “universal energy system”. You can find everything about how powerscaling works on vsbw, it is pretty reliable. Just search VSBW powerscaling, AP scaling or universal energy system
@Pagehaul4 ай бұрын
Are you on Twitter wanna ask u something ?
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I’m indeed not, what’s good?
@Pagehaul4 ай бұрын
Fairs Twitter is Ass it's about YT videos can't ask u all here tho but what editing software do u use ?
@metroplextitan88164 ай бұрын
Adult Sasuke and Naruto at some point nuked uninhabited planet for shits and giggles as a form of pissing contest. Change my mind
@ramonsanders6514 ай бұрын
Not that either of them aren't planetary, cuz they are, but I promise u, in ANY fictional parallel universe, Naruto are Sasuke are fucking, more than fighting lol. But I guess ur heteronormative homoerotic fantasies of them work too 🤣💯
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True
@birdmanharvey48684 ай бұрын
Bro just use the example of cell and gohan shooting solar system level kamehameha's on earth and it's not destroyed.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True
@LuyandaNzimande-p1p2 ай бұрын
He's beyond that. Kaguya tears and Momoshiki statements
@spicyboi5444 ай бұрын
I just wanted to know since its clear everyone here is aware that planetary naruto is not only possible but just the correct statement. What are your thoughts on star buster naruto or even the higher ball of solar system naruto. Which one would you put him at given your own opinion between planet, star and solar?
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I’ll word it like this, to claim planetary is conservative, claiming he’s Solar is well founded yet more contentious
@username21684 ай бұрын
The only thing i can thank KingLion for is that he woke the naruto community at least
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I been out here
@username21684 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue i mean on TikTok, also most people from the Naruto community didn't even realize he was planetary
@brandonskates4 ай бұрын
What is a legitimate point someone could come up with for Naruto not being planetary
@hasanshafique6758Ай бұрын
None
@jadynfelix4 ай бұрын
God bless, good video
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Thank you! You Too Brother
@ty90life724 ай бұрын
Another virhtue W 🙌🙏
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Always goat
@onizukasensei53214 ай бұрын
this videos great people need to see this although one nitpick wasnt the world with all the nebula around it the unidentified world that he destroyed and planted a divine tree on described in boruto novel 3 not his actual dimension
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
It certainly could be I’m not intimate with Boruto at all, so it could be
@poppinfrankalnaghy44 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue This is not true its not in the manga this is just fans fantasy thay are not dbz level thay need to stop makeing up things to put him planet level in the manga thay are mountn level
@MayoTheNnaise4 ай бұрын
@@poppinfrankalnaghy4💀
@onizukasensei53214 ай бұрын
@@poppinfrankalnaghy4 how did I not even see this insanity I think the red nebula argument shi is blatant misinformation or very unclear at the very least and don't believe in it But mountain level? Be fr
@feelgoodfandom53533 ай бұрын
@@poppinfrankalnaghy4what are you basing that statement on lol how do you get that planet life consuming super beings leagues above the already minimum mountain level bijuu are mountain level
@adamtwarowski10534 ай бұрын
Idk, thats not what KingDiddy told me
@jason152124 ай бұрын
Yes the top tiers in Naruto are planetary it’s just not that many characters that are on that level so people don’t think of the verse as planetary
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True, I do suppose that the main top cast is planet +
@Omen_Rocks1234 ай бұрын
People who saying naruto isn’t planetary don’t know how to scale or are just lying
@that_boy_tkobriley3814 ай бұрын
I’m ok with this video but in my head cannon Naruto n sasuke fight didn’t have the huge planet level thing bc Naruto wasn’t even trying to kill bro if he was it would’ve showed but ye planetary tanked a moon splitting attack which is literally a small planet n technically
@Dilllonm4 ай бұрын
The death star doesn’t have enough fire power to destroy an X wing because we never saw it. In fact the XWing destroyed the Death Star therefore, the x wing has more fire powers, TikTok logic.
@chadmassiah5574 ай бұрын
the moon was literally shown and depicted as hollow so for you to say it isn't because it wouldn't have the mass to stay in orbit is an appeal to reality.
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
I dont understand how sasuke is planetary by moving his chibaku tensi. Even if its moon lvl the moon is tiny and soft compared to the earth it has no core and its like 25 percent the earths mass.. so you have to hype up that to even make it relevant.. i like alot of your videos so no hate
@jordanjackson88733 ай бұрын
To move massive objects of that size and be able to move it against the force of Earth's gravity is small planet level.
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
My biggest problem is that the ten tails has the best destructive feats in the series and hes continental.. and all the characters get there power from ten tails or hagaromo or you are kaguya… how do we jump from continetal to breaking the earth beyond its gravity.. is madara making up for the extra 75 percent plus of the energy needed to be legit planetary?
@x_Lords-Aizen2 ай бұрын
Naruto is galaxy level + while fighting with momoshiiki.
@tahriqsnyders16584 ай бұрын
Goku vs beerus destroyed many planets including a star with just the force of their blows
@fernosbonos53943 ай бұрын
novels statments missing, don't scale without it
@Virhtue3 ай бұрын
I didn’t need them and Retsuden novels are canonically questionable
@FateScales4 ай бұрын
Why is this even a debate?
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Dude…you tell me
@FateScales4 ай бұрын
@@VirhtueIt is evolving, just backwards
@iv2joshuamaraj4754 ай бұрын
So in summary Naruto isn't planetary proving king lion correctly in the argument but the excuse is to use statements that not backed up by feats aka ap
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
He has feats tho to back it up even in KCM2, Mr Crafty Scales has a meta where he amps the Shinobi Alliance which can destroy a moon, calcing him to planet with that
@stephenking28954 ай бұрын
8:05 video soon??
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Eventually
@statist.nomer.33604 ай бұрын
If naruto can one shout moon+ lvl attack,in his strongest he is planetary
@NovaBugDrayosix4 ай бұрын
I mean Adult Naruto is, at minimum, star level due to scaling to kaguya, more reasonable be solar system level, though I choose to interpret it as universal due to some statements and scaling involving momoshika and infinite sized pocket dimensions
@louiswalusimbi800623 күн бұрын
The Sakura feat will never make any sense to me
@xrim11394 ай бұрын
Naruto’s universal scaling is also very good from momoshikis reality creating but he still loses to ichigo
@band09454 ай бұрын
Nah he surpassed ichigo with baryon mode probably before that even, light novel naruto is no joke
@xrim11394 ай бұрын
@@band0945 No he didn’t ichigo has multiversal scaling and his universal scaling is better than Naruto’s
@band09454 ай бұрын
@@xrim1139 I can’t say much bc i haven’t finished bleach
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Your tripping
@band09454 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue 🕺🏾😁🕺🏾
@NarutosRasengan54 ай бұрын
To think Naruto is not planetary is crazy lol Kurama alone is stated to be able to burn the world to ash meaning if Naruto were to go out to space and just focus all his chakra on ONE jutsu he could indeed obliterate a planet with just Kurama’s chakra not using his own…as a few fodder shinobi coming together could blow up a moon with a mere chakra beam…if naruto who was just in his MERE kcm2 could pass his chakra to 10,000 heads for a day as HE FOUGHT its not crazy to assume that taken all the chakra he has available to him if he takes it all to focus it on DC he’s clearing a planet and that’s just kcm2 😂
@enma84414 ай бұрын
It took parts of a planet to seal Kaguya, the big bad of Naruto. Naruto is nowhere near planetary otherwise Boruto using just Uzihiko wouldn't bee stronger than Code whos above Jigen. Theres a difference between absorbing a planets chakra via god tree and physically destroying it.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
So what about the other 10 points?
@enma84414 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue No offense
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Sealing jutsu in Naruto is broken bro, Kakashi was able to stop two tails Naruto with a pice of paper
@jordanjackson88733 ай бұрын
@@enma8441You do realize they have sealing justu that can trap in you different dimensions, right? They have one that striaght-up calls the grim reaper to seal your soul in like a limbo or purgatory almost.
@Thevwsheldon4 ай бұрын
I just don't think all this is necessary for imaginary stories... I'm a big Naruto fan, can't stand the English version unless reading the manga. But really there's no difference in Naruto or science involving space and lots of science even on the ground, so I guess as long as you're using imagination to debate imagination it seems more real. Be careful and check yourself as I just did in this short paragraph
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t assert that initial statement but I could see where you coming from
@band09454 ай бұрын
💀
@razenhell97214 ай бұрын
Actually one thing wrong about goku he actually is shown destroying planets in his fight with beerus
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
I don’t watch db
@jithamithrank76474 ай бұрын
There is fact tho that in Naruto world there are only 5 villages and some other countries which is only 1 continent or so so it's weird he is planatery but narrative matters so ye
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
True
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Then we realize Naruto's planet is much bigger than earth, those large countries is possibly bigger than earth
@jithamithrank76474 ай бұрын
@@devilgod4552 stop highballing
@jithamithrank76474 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue 😁
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Hypersonic characters take 3 days= 72 hour to reach sand village from konoha, low bolling the speed to mach 1 (1,234.8km/h), the distance between konoha and sand village reach 72×1,234.8 =88,905.6 km the Dimeter of Jupiter is 69,911km
@cryptedz76644 ай бұрын
I'm not convinced naruto is planetary, and we've seen goku destroy a planet
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
Naruto has many feats to prove he is planetary and higher, and as explained in the video Attack Potency =/= Destructive Capacity
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Why aren’t you convinced
@ShesBearynice4 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Bad arguments. A convincing argument is building it solely off of the fact that Toneri’s feat visually destroys a planetoid. While a moon isn’t a planet, it’s close enough and no normie would question you then. In fact, Toneri is the ONLY good argument for “planetary” Naruto. Everything else is flawed. Kurama’s statements are not literal enough, and anyone who speaks English while trying to socialize within common society can tell why. “Earth shattering?” Really? Almost every other feat discussed uses Chibaku Tensei KE calcs, which don’t necessarily scale to all of their jutsu regardless, because there is no explicit statement in the show itself that equates the GBE of that Jutsu to any of the violent strength of any jutsu in any of these characters arsenals, because the chakra they use is fuel for the technique, not the energy of the technique itself. It’s why using storms to calc AP is stupid, because without an explicit blessing from the story, most characters use their powers as fuel for the things they do, and you know damn well I’m not scaling to the force of a speeding car just because my chakra fuels it. That doesn’t mean chakra functions the way I said either, but that does mean y’all argue from unknowns using unknowns and it’s bad logic.
@ShesBearynice4 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Oh, and none of what Kaguya does in any way forces your audience to think she’s planet level physically or with any of her offensive “spells” and shit. Cause her powers could be hax and hax alone, and nothing says that they are tied to her general damage output? A single statement saying her vacuum god fist uses a portion of the might or force necessary to do the warp thing she does would suffice- and why would creation scale to damage output? How do you know for a fact that it’s not hax, cause I am certain you can write a story where creation is hax- so what explicit statements clarify that she is using that same KE in her punches and stuff? 😂
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Naruto's planet is star size, tailed beast bomb compared to the curvature of that planet reach Planetery+ therefore KCM2 Naruto reach planetery level
@chadmassiah5574 ай бұрын
just to confirm do you actually think end of naruto Sakura is planetary?
@kelvinswanson544 ай бұрын
I don’t like to argue bout something so simple but just why would somebody who a beast in him not any beast but one that has at lowball Continental feats and he get sage of six paths has the ability to destroy prolly around Pluto or the moon size asteroids like bro just that alone can make anyone planetary at bear minimum or higher but fought a women who makes dimensions or parallel worlds with stars and moons like bro there is nothing but planetary feats to solar system like I actually surprised
@lorj63604 ай бұрын
yes 🌍🦊
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
Also I seriously doubt they are 70times ftl.. like the raikage is debates as ftl i think he is probably a bit more but i mean in dbz power is usually corolated to speed also and king vegeta can dust a planet but his power level is what? Not 9000 like vegeta and if you go through the early db timeline i dont even think goku or vegeta is massivly ftl until super sayian.. so are naruto characters just crazy fast or? Also if naruto was 70x ftl he could dodge and evade massivly like he could go to the moon and back 20 times in a second to avoid a attack.. i just dont see these feats presented in the show or implied
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Naruto's planet is much bigger bro, Hypersonic characters took 3day=72hour to reach Sand village from leaf village, even If lowboll the speed to only supersonic or mach 1=1,234.8km/h then the distance reach 88,905.6km (Jupiter radius is 69,911km) therefore the planet diameter would be much bigger, that means the distance between that planet and moon is also bigger
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
@@devilgod4552 kakashi and guy should be ftl so i dont understand how it takes them that long.. unless thats only combat speed when they are going all out
@a.a.m.g33124 ай бұрын
Bru multiple character from naruto are planet level.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Very true!
@theswordzmaneditz3474 ай бұрын
KingLion is gonna debunk and embarrass this video with his disingenuously and brings up with his trash comics with no universal energy system as well the mid piece fans who until yesterday were scaling their fodder characters with the same logic "luffy is star level bc he's equal to black beard who can create black holes🤓👆"-if you can't defeat your biggest enemy (goatruto fans and goatruto/sasugoat themselves) just throw away scaling in general which you used until yesterday so you can delusion yourself into your own happiness 👒🏴☠️🏳️🌈
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
This is extremely incomprehensible
@theswordzmaneditz3474 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue second comment like this about bad English in one day😭 but yeah i am creating my own language when I am trying to speak or write in English
@hiddenmarco4 ай бұрын
KingLying needs stop being disingenuous lmao. SHOW ME A FEAT OF NARUTO DESTROYING PLANET. thats never been the argument bc obviously Naruto would never destory planet same thing with goku lmao even tho everybody knows hes easily planetary
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
W nickname
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
Kurama being a destroyer of world means he could eventually destroy the world not he could obliterate the whole earth in 1 shot
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
You forgot a word in that statement "easily "and in boruto databook he is stated to be capable of 1 shot the planet
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
@@devilgod4552 kurama isnt planetary and boruto sucks
@planetarylink4 ай бұрын
@@jackschwanke603 Doesn't matter whether or not you think it sucks it's canon.
@stephenking28954 ай бұрын
Yes he is and W video.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Thanks king
@Nathan246344 ай бұрын
Would you ever consider scaling boruto series Stuff or os that a can of worms you just don't want to open
@band09454 ай бұрын
Y’all acting like boruto scaling is so hard to read, it’s literally not hard at all
@Nathan246344 ай бұрын
@@band0945 no mainly the haters that argue to no end about hebi Sasuke beating sarada and hidari
@AkshatKumar-qn1iq4 ай бұрын
Shippuden top tiers are easy planetary
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Oh for shre
@nelsonw94834 ай бұрын
Naruto has never come close to destroying a planet.
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
Bro ignored the video 💀
@Kanekism4 ай бұрын
...
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Even if we egnore all those different dimension, Naruto's planet reach the size of a star and the tailed beast boom compared to the curvature of that planet reach would reach planetery +, therefore KCM2 Naruto reach planetery +
@band09454 ай бұрын
People like you are so ignorant, im glad I don’t think like you
@LuffyG574744 ай бұрын
Naruto DC is country level but his ap is star level think
@ItsVct14 күн бұрын
Bro hasn’t destroyed one single planet what are you talking about
@Virhtue11 күн бұрын
He has release energy beyond a planets gravitational binding energy
@rajgaming19452 ай бұрын
can anyone name he a planetary character (other from naruto
@42.-2 ай бұрын
Basically any Naruto/Boruto high tier
@BridgetsYo-Yo4 ай бұрын
Why did toneri need to launch the moon at the earth?
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
To destroy it, with the representation of who Hagoromo and Hamura were, being represented by their lands
@BridgetsYo-Yo4 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue I figured it was something like that. I haven’t watched the actual movie, just heard summaries of the events.
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
He wants to restart that planet from the beginning and at the beginning Moon is the part of that planet,
@Thevwsheldon4 ай бұрын
Writing imagination, this guy is all torn up over fiction, I get excited reading and watching but not this silly stuff
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Bro bro, I’m not mad, this is my job I love it
@jackschwanke6034 ай бұрын
How does madara have planetary feats if the best 10 tails feat is continental? So madara absorbs ten tails and they go to plantary? Also destroying a planet is subject you can be a life wiper or you can turn it too dust each one is planetary but take considerably different amounts of power
@jordanjackson88733 ай бұрын
Bruh, the Ten Tails power on screen was shown as a small planetary hall of energy. That was its first form. It transformed and got absorbed twice. Madara was even stronger than obito as the Ten Tails jinchuriki because he was a perfect jinchuriki. He got 2 more upgrades after that. He even grew an entire tree around the world and snatched up every living being in seconds to put them in a genjustu. He accidentally dropped a field of meteors that would've destroyed an entire country. He was holding back and summoned a field of meteors that was comparable to the curvature of their planet. There's no way you're denying any planetary statements. They off rip said that the 9 Tails could turn the world to ash.
@jackschwanke6033 ай бұрын
@@jordanjackson8873 he was continental not small planetary.. like earth is a small planet ding dong.. and going from continetal to destroying a planet beyond is gravity is a huge gap
@jordanjackson88733 ай бұрын
@jackschwanke603 growing an entire tree around a planet, snatching up ever single living being, and reflecting a light off the moon around the entire planet. Sorry, this isn't Dragonball where they just throw out consequences with some magical orbs. Also, he (ACCIDENTALLY) performed a continental level feat.
@jordanjackson88733 ай бұрын
@jackschwanke603 you're replying arguing against the show, the writer, and the manga 😂😂 I mean they literally showed the Ten Tails chakra on the screen as a small planetary ball of energy. If you don't like Naruto, just say that 😂😂
@jackschwanke6033 ай бұрын
@@jordanjackson8873 i dont think it was stated the roots grew theoughout the whole planet and the ten tails continetal feat was intention.. when obito and madara decided to blow up shikamaru and inos dad.. they launched a jubi dama and practically blew away the continetal.. we dont know how extensive the damage was but we can assume the ten tails life wiped the continent.. which isnt blowing it apart so not really that impressive
@_xxukk4 ай бұрын
average naruto scale low ball moon. lvl high ball solar. super glaze and wank uni
@jithamithrank76474 ай бұрын
Fr?
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Yes
@Zenoforce4 ай бұрын
All this from a tik tok debat
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Tell me about it
@spit-fire4 ай бұрын
I see end of shippuden naruto being able to destroy earth if he needed to. if he had an energy blast attack, the earths layers don’t stand a chance. Edo madara’s susano’s sword swings was slicing mountains in half lol and he’s weak as shit to Naruto.
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Very true
@xcloudivx04 ай бұрын
What? Absolutely ALL of Naruto’s chakra couldn’t even destroy a hollow moon💀 is there anything else that needs to be said😂 MAYBEE hokage Naruto but if all of his chakra post war arc couldn’t destroy a moon that is hollowed out there’s a 0% chance it could destroy a larger completely solid planet.
@devilgod45524 ай бұрын
Petrol flow out of the cylinder only displaced small object but when it goes under a chemical reaction it can destroy entire Building, Similarly that was just the flow of chakra not the actual reaction
@Jusaguywithbrain4 ай бұрын
Learn to differenciate between ap and dc
@Finalslashes4 ай бұрын
People need to stop with that goku stop bringing him in your being dishonest he has 50% uni feats
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Lemme present a question, is Goku beyond universal?
@OmniArchbishop4 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue short answer yes
@Finalslashes4 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue yes with basic logic
@zeromagnum28114 ай бұрын
Nobody in Naruto has the power to blow up a planet. so the word planetary used to describe its power scale is folly. The Strongest characters in the series showed themselves able to destroy towns or cities at best. And that's it. None of them had the ability to destroy the planet. None of the big 3 have that scale. only DBZ did.
@Js.vortex4 ай бұрын
Obviously he is
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
Should be obvious, we gotta talk soon my friend
@Js.vortex4 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue real
@wispybacon83064 ай бұрын
He’s not
@band09454 ай бұрын
Explain why?
@wispybacon83064 ай бұрын
his feats are inconsistent and more importantly everything in Naruto is hyperbolic or metaphoric
@band09454 ай бұрын
@@wispybacon8306 lmao that’s the best you can come up with? Do you even read naruto or the light novels? No you don’t. Naruto is planetary and maybe above, deal with it
@kingjalon75914 ай бұрын
I'm sorry bro... but this is cap, especially the kaguya portion
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
This comment is cap
@kingjalon75914 ай бұрын
@@brothsipper-h5o hmm 🤔. I'll do a video about it. Adding the kaguya scaling debunk to my list. I'll tag you in it when I'm done.
@brothsipper-h5o4 ай бұрын
@@kingjalon7591Alr
@Virhtue4 ай бұрын
How so?
@kingjalon75914 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue I don't know what I was expecting but a genuine "How so?" Response was definitely not one of them lol. Maybe I've been around too many toxic fans 🤔. HOWEVER a comment alone will not fully explain my point ☝️, in a few days... maybe even tomorrow I'll make a video about this topic and I'll tag you on this same comment with the link..... or you can periodically check out my channel, I'm relatively new here 😀.