Muay Thai Chaiya Techniques: 4B's of defence explained: Part 2

No frills, no fancy moves, just straight simple explanation of the core of Muay Tha Chaiya's defense.
Part 2: Learn how to protect using the Bit elbows, and how to counter effectively with Beurt. Then bring it all together with Dop Hoo. I hope you enjoy, and remember, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!
Thanks to Kru Lek, Kru Aof and Kru Yee for their help.
Check out the following sites for more information:
www.learnmuaychaiya.com
www.samkhum.com

[@ThriftyMillionaire]

Thanks Nathan for your good work in showing these essential Muay Chiaya principles. When I first started muay thai years ago I was lucky enough to learn a 'full' version. And we were lucky enough to know some of this. Simple and effective. And Gross Motor Skills too!

[@SerbianKickboxer969]

Finally,a defense system that actually works...

[@RebeccaHeather]

I always thought mauy thai was a effective form of self defence but todays muay thai is more of a sport but mauy chaiya is more about the street.Very easy and effective love the drills please give me more.

[@swedishnitro]

Fantastic. The speed at the end of the Dop Hoo is astonishing.

[@wolfh1045]

Please keep these excellent tutorials coming. There is something about Muay Chaiya that really draws me to the art and I find your videos really insightful. Many thanks.

[@rodrigopereira5527]

Mto educativo, excelentes defesas de Muay boran 🥊

[@nathanbrown19]

Happy to help, it's worth talking about. It's no surprising that you've seen similar techniques elsewhere, even with different uses. Thadmala is one of those swiss army knife moves that fits into lots of different situations - it's one of my favourite entries and counters. One of the details which is often forgotten is the guard hand, but it's sooo important as a backup... and it can be then used to follow up. Joop Sawg as a cover up works, but nothing compared to using it with the P.Liam ;)

[@ToraJutsu01]

Great channel and great vids mate!!!

[@parodyfilms]

Awesome video man very educational. Me and my buddy are gona try it out!

[@nathanbrown19]

Hi. I've been learning from Kru Lek for 10 years now, and teaching for around 5. Right now I'm in Bangkok :)

[@kevinJuly2024]

Great work guys! Thanks

[@GregYong]

ending was amazing, really

[@MauFer-]

Thanks for share with us this video,

[@alejandrocarloscardenasest7769]

Thanks your videos are amasing very good explained

[@Satie3]

Thanks a lot for the information. I asked partly becuase I've seen Ajahn Burklerk Pinsinchai using a block similar to Thadmalaa to great effect both as a block and to time parrying to a counter. I've also seen Aikpracha Meenayothin using Joop Sawg, but as a guard when going in for a straight knee. I can't wait to train again, esp. thadmalaa against a hook, genius!

[@NantachaiChootien]

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[@nathanbrown19]

Thanks :) It's not difficult to do, just a little practice every day!

[@ake16873]

p'Op is looked really tried. and some moves Kru nathan may felt quite hurt HAHA really proud with this instruction series Ake

[@PKB239]

I've been scrolling through your videos with interest, and have decided to start training the footwork and kicking you show to see what it adds to my existing skillset. Having trained in various styles including Muay Thai, I was really surprised to see a lot of what you show has strong similarities to Okinawan Goju Ryu, especially the blocking/parrying techniques you demonstrate here. I know a number of Muay Thai guys who tear down the Okinawan arts yet have limited/no experience or understanding of them, while I have been blending OGR with Muay Thai for a number of years, and have ended up mirroring what you demonstrate here. I never knew there was a 'rising forearm block' in the Thai arts, (Beurt) although I am surprised I am surprised come to think of it. There is nothing new under the sun, especially in practical fighting arts for actual combat. Would love to train in Muay Chaiya when the world opens up again. Thanks for your vids.

[@nathanbrown19]

That's great to hear. We had an Okinawan karate student in Baan Chang Thai years ago, he arranged some Okinawan weapons practice with was very interesting. If be interested in how it goes, but be careful mixing with other MA, as much of the style works best when using it together (Yang Sam Khum and Phlik Liam is essential) so that the body mechanics flows and generates the power correctly. I do online classes if you get stuck!

[@mikee33oo]

the ending Dop Hoo looks soooo fun

[@maxkim7937]

i want to learn this so i can play it

[@phollow174]

strange you would say that, i was thinking the exact same thing . w/c centerline , muay chiaya centerline. seems like a good mix to me :)

[@Guido999]

super 👍👍🙏

[@Guido999]

greats from germany💕👍👍

[@mel2thegibson]

I'm starting to take classes for muay thai but it seems like muay chaiya is what i want to learn because it seems to be more for the streets if im not mistaken. im beginning to realize that the style im taking is meant for the sport but that isnt why i joined. i live in a bad area so thats what i need it for. would combining the defense of muay chaiya and the attack of muay thai be possible? is there even a big difference in the two? any info would be great. thanks

[@surfside16]

Do you sell videos for both Chaiya defence and offense? I like your teaching style and I would like to buy your videos.

[@Satie3]

could this amazing blocking system also function well in Muay Thai with a modified P. Liam?

[@nathanbrown19]

Please remember that these are the basics of the style. Think of the movement taught in these early stages as the outlining of the Mua Chaiya framework. Once you feel comfortable, you can adjust things to suit your personal style more. Be careful though, as changes usually come with advantages and disadvantages, experience and practise will teach you these. In this case, be careful of shifting weight, as it can mess up the flow of the Plik Liam and your follow up movements...

[@swedishnitro]

Thanks for replying Nathan, I sent an email to you ages ago wondering if you were planning on teaching Muay Chaiya in London at any point? Cheers!

[@titlihoon1988]

Hey Nathan...How long have you been training/instructing??? And where r u in Thailand???

[@Ronnock]

You're welcome! No yeah, I understand. I use to film edit as a hobby, and a movie that was suppose to be 5 minutes long would take days of editing, hahaha. That or I just wasn't very good at it. Anyway man, take care; train hard and train well.

[@nathanbrown19]

I think it could, but the P.Liam is an essential part of the system, and you could then loose out of the wider range of techniques and flow of the whole system. The P.Liam works the way it is because of the way that you utilise the whole of the body in a balanced manner. This is tricky enough when using it for real as it is, changing it may have unintended side effects. Give it a try though, and let me know how you get on!

[@adfas44]

Thanks very much for your explanation. Where can I learn it?

[@nathanbrown19]

Your welcome. The best place to go is Baan Chang Thai in Bangkok

[@Ronnock]

@randyds5 It is awesome! I love the art, it's just a shame that no one here is available to teach me and this kind of art isn't as intuitive to me as say KFM or Krav Maga to which I can learn on my own.

[@brozac1011]

@8:50 how bout when they're straight punches not coming from the outside?

[@MrSajid80]

100x👍

[@clockmakerbr2470]

Hey Nathan, can you use the rear hand of the guard when blocking with beurt? Anyways, beurt it's been the only block that i have to train more to start using it in sparrings, the other kinds of cover/blocks worked really well in sparrings.

[@nathanbrown19]

Of course! Great if you've been practicing and can use the defenses, good time to start pushing the next level. Executing things like rear cross, hook, and the upper cut with beurt is especially satisfying (move in close for proper leverage in delivery) Also, think of the elbows... E.g. Thadmalaa

[@clockmakerbr2470]

​@@nathanbrown19 Thanks for the answer! I've been giving Plik Liam a lot more atention lately, i can see why it's necessary, even more when using Joop Sawg to defend against hooks. I kinda used Joop Sawg against straight punches sometimes when sparring(by accident), but it was more like raising the front arm of the guard, i defended using the tip of the elbow, but i don't know if what i've done is right.

[@clockmakerbr2470]

@@nathanbrown19 It's good to see that you are really approachable! I will contact you again when i have more questions (if it doesn't bother you). I'm a Muay Thai fighter here in Brazil, i've been training daily for almost 5 years by now, but i have almost no information here about Muay Chaiya or the other Boran styles in general. I plan to go to thailand, but while i can't, i study and put it into practice. You're helping me a lot!

[@nathanbrown19]

@@clockmakerbr2470 great to hear! Joop sawg against straights are fine, although the timing is harder than for hooks. You can use the elbow point against the fist with all of the elbows, however, try using it as a parry against straights. It's tricky, but the follow up moves can be VERY powerful (especially if your Plik Liam's good!)

[@clockmakerbr2470]

@@nathanbrown19 I see, it does make sense to use it as a parry especially against a straight power punch, i think i've seen this in a sparring compilation of Kru Pete from Muay Boran Academy, i will surely try it as a parry. Thadmala is similar to the standard cover in Muay Thai, the difference is the oposite hand position and that there's no Plik Liam in sport Muay Thai. it's really nice to elbow incoming punches with it for sure.

[@Ronnock]

I am in the same boat as Wolf

[@stopglobalswarming]

Now what do you do against someone who likes punching/chopping your arms?

[@nathanbrown19]

The primary usage of these techniques are to slip inside the opponent's attack and counter along their center line. The elbows are counter attacks themselves and bat has multiple follow up techniques. The 'dop hoo' drill shown here is a drill used to hone reactions to be able to defend and counter a variety of attacks. It's not intended that you stand there just defending like in some Kung Fu movie. Counter attack once, maybe twice along the center line and follow with you're own attacks - which could be these same elbow techniques, or any combination of the many Chaiya kick, knee, elbow or striking attacks. Also, the techniques shown here are 'soft' to protect your partner. when used against an opponent, you use the tips of your elbow, or the bone of your forarm (for bat), this damages the opponent's arms... The harder they hit, the more it hurts.

[@matkasim]

Fucking impressive

[@alejandrocarloscardenasest7769]

Hi i will like to share my trainning routine with a ball hope You like it and try to see what can you do using yours MUAY THAI chaiya skills

[@nathanbrown19]

Lol, I did play with this idea years ago, but the problem (which I've noted on another video you've commented on) is that it's easy to promote bad habits/technique with this kind of training. I'd suggest using a ceiling to floor ball for better results, as you can focus more on good technique over trying to hit the ball straight at the wall. I've another idea for you that might help, let me see if I can find the link...

[@nathanbrown19]

Something like this might help... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKWxZaehq8h1g6M

[@richardolson514]

On thadmalaa do you phlik liam?

[@nathanbrown19]

Always phlik liam if possible/appropriate, ie transitioning between joob sawg and thad malaa with the same arm, doesn't require PL (as its the same side) however, with practice you will see there is still a small part of the PL movement from the body to reinforce the technique. This shouldnt be forced as it can disrupt flow 😀

[@nathanbrown19]

Hey Jordan, sorry about missing your email - sometimes they slip by me! I'm actually coming back to the UK in July and staying for a while, teaching, doing seminars etc. Drop me a line again and I'll give you more details.

[@swedishnitro]

Hi Nathan I dropped you a PM with my email address in it. Look forward to hearing more!

[@nathanbrown19]

no master, but you're welcome anyway! :D

[@loyalpanda3200]

Mr. Nathan, please please get your online school going. please!

[@ramseymodiri2752]

Do you offer Skype lessons?

[@nathanbrown19]

Pm me on FB about Skype lessons 🙂

[@bwoyfiji]

he look like steve nash haha but good video

[@averagejoe2325]

Looks like Matrix...

[@kimsonone]

Start of the monkey drill 8 counter inside leg +4 elbows inside guard +knee inside opponent femoral to keep distance break his balance very fast pafpafpaf...

[@AnhNguyen-ko6dt]

Are you British Nathan? Because you got great teeth for a Brit!

[@nathanbrown19]

Lol, thanks Anh, but they look better on camera then in reality! :D

[@BSS2547]

กูคนไทย. โว้ย

[@NAHEEZAAA]

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