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@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ 9 ай бұрын
Recently a viewer asked how to execute the Sucrose National team rotation, which inspired me to make this guide. Unlike most of my other videos, It's intended to be short and easily consumable for players who are just looking for the execution of the rotation, without diving too much into the nitty gritty details. Depending on how well this format of videos is received, I may try making a series of rotation guide videos for various team comps using a similar format. I hope for it to serve as a kind of library or repository of rotations that players can quickly refer to. Here is where I'll be storing these, if I do end up making more: kzbin.info/aero/PLZYC36PceCMVjnrzOTq9ULzSGhhYpj8-q
@bunny_the_lifeguard9789
@bunny_the_lifeguard9789 9 ай бұрын
A wise chancellor once said: "Dew it!"
@harfi212
@harfi212 9 ай бұрын
Sucrose national is not really that hard. How about make video of childe national.
@KaedeharaK1d
@KaedeharaK1d 9 ай бұрын
what if... Xingqiu is on Nobless and Bennett is on 4p- Instructor?
@CptNonsense05
@CptNonsense05 9 ай бұрын
2:08 I like that the changing character builds is in sync with the music's drop (apologies if I'm wrong, I don't know the right term).
@weird_mango42
@weird_mango42 9 ай бұрын
I love how its just icons and then XIANGLING
@professionaldirkstriderhater
@professionaldirkstriderhater 5 ай бұрын
OPPA
@readerofalltrades
@readerofalltrades 9 ай бұрын
Love this! Would love to see this formatted videos for other popular teams as well!
@anshnanavati
@anshnanavati 9 ай бұрын
Guoba swirling to get the vv shred for both hydro and pyro is quite important for team dps - Xq's damage is quite significant as well and shouldn't be neglected.
@will5220
@will5220 9 ай бұрын
This is a great idea! would love to see rotations for more teams in this quick, no fluff format
@Nerdslayer0
@Nerdslayer0 9 ай бұрын
Your vids are the best. This was so clear compared to most vids that just say QEQEQEQ
@Yama_1291
@Yama_1291 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the guide and welcome back! - Always happy to see you upload!
@DavidLightstalker
@DavidLightstalker 9 ай бұрын
A good rotation for beginner but I wish you'd also gone into the double swirl setup. It's not too complicated and both deals more damage and flows a lot better. Xingqiu Q > Bennett Q > Xiangling E (weave NA in between to apply Hydro) > Sucrose E (Guoba swirl and Hydro aura swirl) > Xiangling Q (snapshots everything) > Xingqiu double E (quad vape if you can do it), then just battery Xiangling and repeat.
@maevethefox5912
@maevethefox5912 9 ай бұрын
This is fantastic, I love to see these rotation guides. This very cool to see, I actually haven't been able to clear things with national despite having them all fairly well built, because I've just kind of lost the skill of tight rotations after so long playing top end DPS characters
@zaratutsirol5391
@zaratutsirol5391 4 ай бұрын
been looking for a rotation guide and this is it! simple and not other explanations
@Psysium
@Psysium 9 ай бұрын
Wow, this is genuinely very helpful! Also love the buttons/symbols as a visual aid.
@Rye_Smile
@Rye_Smile 7 ай бұрын
My GOD this is everything i needed!! Thank you!
@adithyands1330
@adithyands1330 9 ай бұрын
Thanks to your video's i have completed the spiral abbys
@jsec7682
@jsec7682 9 ай бұрын
wuahhh. a really good youtube channel. directly into the content and cut out all unnecessary intro, etc. GREAT JOB. HOPE your channel can grow faster. TYSM
@sirram_e
@sirram_e 9 ай бұрын
nah i'd guoba swirl
@sirram_e
@sirram_e 9 ай бұрын
and vape xinquiu E for 6 digits
@theianeia
@theianeia 9 ай бұрын
If you can guoba swirl then you're not the target audience for the guide.
@Poochyvert
@Poochyvert 9 ай бұрын
@@theianeiaguoba swirling is very easy and very important, if anyone is having any trouble, just use Guoba in overworld, not even against enemies and try to make Sucrose's skill hit Guoba while the exclamation mark is near Guoba (when he is about to shoot and while shooting)
@greg-rk3ux
@greg-rk3ux 9 ай бұрын
@@Poochyvert well learning to guoba swirl is easy but it can be challenging to get the timing right if you haven't mastered it. The time-window in which guoba infuses itself with pyro is quite small, so it's understandable for some people to have trouble doing it consistently, especially if they have bad ping/internet issues or a bad device
@Poochyvert
@Poochyvert 9 ай бұрын
@@greg-rk3ux sure but if you practice for a few minutes out of battle and then try the rotation against an immobile enemy, you should get it down quickly but if you have like 500-several thousands ping, it's understandable that you can't To practice, you even use the elemental view
@Poochyvert
@Poochyvert 9 ай бұрын
You should also talk about swirling Guoba to swirl hydro as well but even if you don't do that, if you have an alright 4p noblesse set for Xingqiu and a 4p intructor build for bennett, you should really use that instead, especially if you don't swirl hydro but this is a fine rotation for beginners
@Kat-mf7mt
@Kat-mf7mt 9 ай бұрын
This is awesome. The only national team I'm comfortable using is Raiden national. I try to use Childe national but can never get it right.
@ctran1955
@ctran1955 9 ай бұрын
Same, it intimidated me so Childe remained unbuilt for 2 years+. I built him and he’s fun to try but I always feel like I’m not skilled enough to know all the ins and outs
@christiankevin9743
@christiankevin9743 9 ай бұрын
Same, my Childe national always feels really weak which makes me wonder whether it's my character or my skill issue
@ctran1955
@ctran1955 9 ай бұрын
@@christiankevin9743 I tried watching some rotation guides. I don’t think I’m that good at it but it definitely doesn’t feel weak to me. I wonder if you’re focusing on the wrong numbers? I see Xianglings numbers are high. Childes riptide is fun but each number doesn’t do that much imo (maybe I don’t always double swirl?)
@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58
@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 9 ай бұрын
Rational is the easiest National variant to play anyways, no need to worry about swirling the right element but it's not good for fighting enemies who can bounce
@ctran1955
@ctran1955 9 ай бұрын
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 true, i do like Kazuha national for that haha
@O_RLY
@O_RLY 9 ай бұрын
I do bennett skill dash burst so he can catch his own particles and giv 1s more bennett burst uptime for the rest of the team. After the first sucrose skill, there should be a normal attack or 2 to proc XQ's burst and vv hydro. This will also allow XL's subsequent burst to get an extra vape and you get vv on XQ's powerful skill after XL.
@BlackReaper0
@BlackReaper0 9 ай бұрын
Nice! Pretty fast and to the point.
@ana92500
@ana92500 9 ай бұрын
could you do a rotation guide for Tartaglia, xiangling, bennett, kazuha team? i always get so confused. great video!
@xanthee_imr
@xanthee_imr 9 ай бұрын
Personally I like Gouba swirling for consistent double swirls on both elements, for example Xingqiu here doesn’t have RES shred from VV when he uses his powerful E, hydro gets it much later into the rotation Xingqiu Q > Bennett Q [E] > Xiangling E > Sucrose E (Gouba Swirl) [Q] > Xiangling Q > Xingqiu E [E] > vibe I didn’t add normals, which are important before Gouba swirls to ensure a hydro aura on the enemies (I generally do one with Xiangling before dropping Gouba and one with Sucrose right before E, I also try to cancel Xiangling’s normal with Gouba because I’ve Bennett C6 and that makes it less likely to mess up). I really enjoy your content, this is a legitimate rotation and I’ve seen speedrunners not using Gouba swirls so that’s definitely not necessary. National is a really fun team for me, thank you for making it more accessible 💪
@spartacurt
@spartacurt 9 ай бұрын
Gonna try this out. Thank you 🙏 more videos like this please 🤩
@yani-madara2835
@yani-madara2835 9 ай бұрын
Great format! i have a hard time understanding proper rotations because other youtubers don't do this
@davidlg571
@davidlg571 9 ай бұрын
More videos like this showing and explaining rotations please!
@mz1be
@mz1be 9 ай бұрын
Can you do one with your Yelan/Xingqui/Nahida/Kuki HB team? This was super helpful!
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ 9 ай бұрын
Hey, I just posted a video for this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYeaXnaBebyXebs Hope you find it helpful.
@kktrwa5385
@kktrwa5385 9 ай бұрын
Want a similar guide on ayaka freeze
@Youmu_Konpaku_
@Youmu_Konpaku_ 9 ай бұрын
Very short and concise
@Apoc500
@Apoc500 9 ай бұрын
Don't you want to snapshot XQ's burst with Bennet's attack buff? You'd have to play around with the rotation more to get the pyro swirl, though, and it might result in an overall loss in damage anyway. I generally don't micromanage the proper swirl and usually just make sure XQ's and XL's ults snapshot the attack buff.
@kennethluu5974
@kennethluu5974 9 ай бұрын
Xingqui’s Burst doesn’t snapshot
@thesorceryking
@thesorceryking 9 ай бұрын
Others can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure Xingqiu’s burst doesn’t snapshot.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ 9 ай бұрын
This is a common (and totally understandable) misconception, but as others have mentioned, Xingqiu's Burst does not snapshot, so it is safe to use it at the beginning of the rotation before Bennett's Burst. Refer to this page to see whether an ability snapshots or not genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Snapshotting#Talents
@BluecoreG
@BluecoreG 9 ай бұрын
0:59 'optionally' he says
@denzel4341
@denzel4341 9 ай бұрын
XL energy was almost full by that time. For the next rotation, he’s gonna bennett E and sucrose E again that’s gonna fill up that remaining burst anyways.
@AliHosseini-hj9os
@AliHosseini-hj9os 9 ай бұрын
Thats a good rotation, because its easier to execute. Here is another for anyone who is interested (although its a bit more complicated but if you don't finish fast enough with that rotation there are some ways to deal more dmg thus reduce the time needed to kill the enemy): Xingqiu Q>Bennet E,Q,N1, Xiangling N1,E> sucrose E(you try to guaba swirl)>Xiangling N1,Q>xingqiu E, normal atk spam. Tips: 1)guaba swirl is done by swirling pyro from guaba to enemies while there is hydro on the enemy. This way you get your buffs for both hydro and pyro characters. 2) it is recommended to stay on xingqiu for as long as Bennets buff is active. Unless you need to switch to sucrose for grouping. The reason for that is because Xiangling pyronado will have Bennet buff weather you stay on her or not, She keeps the buff even if it ends or you go outside of circle. Xingqiu doesn't you need to be inside the circle. 3)in single target try to avoid using sucrose Q. Also if you're using ttds on her make sure to switch to Xiangling right after her. 4) with right Timing you can make both xingqiu skill hits to vape. You need to use his E righ before a pyronado hits the enemy. 5)there are some strategies that can make pyronado(Xiangling burst) to hit more often. Although most of them are a single target thing and a bit hard to do. You can watch the video Xiangling driving techniques on KZbin for that(Im not sure about the name). If you use kazuha instead of sucrose set ups are a bit easier. Xingqiu Q>bennet Q,E> kazuha,>N1,hold E>Xiangling Q,E .....(The rest is same) This team will get you les dmg(not too much tho). But its generally better in aoe.
@Moon4Tzuyu
@Moon4Tzuyu 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, can you please explain why to try to avoid Sucrose Q for single target enemies...?
@KurulaGuambeTSB
@KurulaGuambeTSB 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video idea Hi Jyo! I've been watching ur videos for quite a while, and I've been waiting 4 a video like this. But with raiden national, bloom team(my bloom team is weird: candace, collei, traveler and barbara) and other. Since none of the videos satisfied my curiosity, I tried to learn the combos by myself with your video about elemental gauges (but it's not working). I would be cool if you made a video to address how everyone can create this input rotation combos. What do you think?
@Wreckedandruinedand
@Wreckedandruinedand 4 ай бұрын
I got sucrose to lv 80 yesterday, stole some kazuha pieces and slap ttds on her... My xiangling hit 73k per pyronado hit. Not like im gonna use this team regularly because arle always has benny on her team but its pretty exhilarating to see xiangling hitting this hard. Usually with kazuha national i got like 50k ish, then i got to 60k ish after using instructor on benny. Apparantly sucrose buff plus ttds is really that strong on this team
@moallayoussef5462
@moallayoussef5462 9 ай бұрын
i play international raiden and it's mostly the same except i like to do raiden skill then xiangling skill then the rest of the rotation until just before xiangling burst where i pick the pepper with her then burst on top of bennet's burst
@MandersonMiscellany
@MandersonMiscellany 9 ай бұрын
I've never played the popular Sucrose National despite having the individual characters built for other teams, so I decided to try it after watching your video on 4.5 Abyss 12-1. This rotation is timely, indeed. Thank you! One question. You mention Sucrose's Burst is optional. Can you explain why one wouldn't use it in this opener?
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ 9 ай бұрын
I only mention that it's optional because sometimes you might not have enough energy to recharge it for every rotation, so I don't want players delaying the rotation trying to get it back up. Especially against single-target enemies, the Swirl from the Skill is enough to contribute enough of a boost. You should use the Burst if possible since it allows Xingqiu to Vaporize his Skill casts more consistently, and -- at C6 -- it also grants a 20% DMG bonus to Xiangling, which is a nice boost.
@Moon4Tzuyu
@Moon4Tzuyu 4 ай бұрын
And here's me, who does Fischl Q, Xq Q, Xl Q, Sucrose Q, Xl E, Sucrose E, Fischl E, Xq E, Xl E, Sucrose E... I know, this makes absolutely no sense, not even to me, but I know nothing about these... 😅
@rogeliomoralesnavarro8444
@rogeliomoralesnavarro8444 9 ай бұрын
I really love this vids, could you please do the same with international?? (Childe, Kazuha, Bennet Xiangling ver.)
@studiesinflux1304
@studiesinflux1304 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have been trying to use this team since Fontaine launched. Do you think the rotation is less forgiving than other teams? I find that if I miss two parts (like Xingqiu’s skill whiffs because enemy teleported or watch Sucrose burst flask fly backwards because of bad catalyst targeting when in melee), it’s reset chamber. Usually nobody has energy and I’m staring at the long cooldown timer on Xingqiu! Unlike for example Ayato+Nahida+Shinobu hyperbloom core, where I use whatever is off cooldown at the time and worst case is you’re using Nahida’s normal attacks for a still notable amount of Spread damage.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ 9 ай бұрын
I think missing Sucrose’s Burst isn’t the end of the world, but you are right that missing Xingqiu’s Skill completely wrecks the rotation. He will be starved of energy, and you have to wait for the long 21s CD to refill it, aside from using Bennett’s Fav procs. A safer alternative is to use Xingqiu’s Skill at the beginning of the rotation, right before his Burst, usually when the enemy is standing still. However, you will lose out on a good chunk of damage since you won’t get to Vaporize the Skill damage. Like you’ve observed, in general, teams that are less reliant on Bursts and deal most of their damage/applications through their Skills are much more forgiving and consistent. This is also typically why 5-stars are in a tier above 4-stars, because most of them have long-lasting, powerful Skills that are on a low cooldown (Nahida, Raiden, Kazuha, Yae, Furina, etc).
@critanddam9031
@critanddam9031 9 ай бұрын
Cold
@masupremeho
@masupremeho 9 ай бұрын
rai national when?
@meepmeep-mw3lq
@meepmeep-mw3lq 9 ай бұрын
emu from down under.... not wrong 😂
@kingkardus01
@kingkardus01 8 ай бұрын
Good video
@georgewagih4253
@georgewagih4253 9 ай бұрын
why burst then skill on bennet at the start instead of skill then burst aren't you just losing some bennet energy this way
@dennisupo630
@dennisupo630 4 ай бұрын
Is it okay to replace sucrose to venti?
@Moon4Tzuyu
@Moon4Tzuyu 4 ай бұрын
It is fine but if you have both built-up and you want one of them to use in national then I think including sucrose results in more damage (more damage than Kazuha or Venti)...
@arnoldli9537
@arnoldli9537 9 ай бұрын
sorry to make an unrelated comment, here is a short neuvillette guide bc i saw u playing him on stream: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z33GYmCglsh7jLM and also i asked u for the rotation, thank you for showing it, i think it helps the genshin community too, since rotations are so important
@JohnHughesTR
@JohnHughesTR 8 ай бұрын
This isn't the best rotation for this team
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